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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Opaque House Halford Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252934) |
Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM Author: splenetic kitty “I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252952) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM Author: Dashing Ceo As I understand it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253562) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: Angry frum whorehouse gay wizard they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252972) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM Author: mint national security agency corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253066) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM Author: Abusive ladyboy police squad 260k is a huge salary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252984) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: High-end Odious Forum Karate Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252986) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM Author: Lascivious blood rage How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935785) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: Coral charismatic chapel sneaky criminal It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252995) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: Opaque House Halford is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231447) |
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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: Opaque House Halford (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#48564541) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM Author: arousing address nibblets omg 260k where do they get off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253074) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: Opaque House Halford For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253521) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM Author: soul-stirring senate p depressing news going into the weekend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253537) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Opaque House Halford Explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254517) |
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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: Opaque House Halford (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36743851) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM Author: Floppy aquamarine legal warrant nursing home yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253827) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: Crusty Bright Stain Public Bath To be fair,
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM Author: Opaque House Halford (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933386) |
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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM Author: Opaque House Halford (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43271055) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM Author: Clear boistinker gaping I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933507) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM Author: talking station mad cow disease holy shit
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM Author: Opaque House Halford or at least give us vault range. that is really low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933783) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: Opaque House Halford it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933852) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM Author: carmine insecure spot coldplay fan That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933882) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM Author: Opaque House Halford i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949761) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: Cerebral mahogany crotch They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933851) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM Author: Clear boistinker gaping No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935758) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM Author: Cerebral mahogany crotch Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935989) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM Author: Cerebral mahogany crotch That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936016) |
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