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California prison nurse Nellie Larot made $270,000 last year.
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:41 AM Author: claret area http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-overtime7-2010mar07,0,1578628.story
Reporting from Sacramento - Like many other state employees, prison nurse Nellie Larot was hit last year with furloughs that cut her salary: It dropped $10,000, to $92,000.
But she more than made up for it by working extra shifts, raking in $177,512 in overtime, according to state records. Her total $270,000 in earnings last year eclipsed the $225,000 paid to Matthew Cate, head of the entire state prison system. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:46 AM Author: Contagious address Sometimes I feel like Schwarzzeneger is fighting crazy liberals and insane practices in CA as if he was a badass from one of his movies. Like every time he cuts off the enemies head it figures out some other union rule allowing employees to retire after 5 years with 90% pension. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14318935) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:10 AM Author: dashing piazza CA unions = t1000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319088) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:14 AM Author: Rough-skinned ruby site LOL at cali , what a shitty state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319117) |
Date: March 7th, 2010 12:47 AM Author: exciting mahogany state ape horrible work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14318940) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:48 AM Author: Contagious address I wish they would tell how she earned that much overtime. I have her clocking in at 90 hours a week.
You would think that in a state with 13% unemployment they would simply hire another worker. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:49 AM Author: Brass tank orchestra pit To be fair, maybe she was "on call" a lot and got paid OT for those hours? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14318957) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:51 AM Author: Contagious address Then that's ridiculous. I love this quote:
"I don't know why people are complaining about the overtime. We work the overtime," she said. "I don't think it's anybody's business." |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:54 AM Author: Brass tank orchestra pit To be fair, lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14318984) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 10:54 AM Author: filthy azure locus kitty Subject: nellie fucking larot Un-fucking believable. That a nurse should make 250,000 a year is unconscionable. I know heart surgeons who don't make that much. The state is broke and getting broker. The Governor tries to employ a measure to make the two sides of the ledger at least be less out of whack, and it backfires because of State worker union rules which allow overtime to such a degree. I don't know what the answer will be for the budget shortfalls, but I can tell you that people like Nellie and her fucking union are not part of the solution. The State is out of money. It is out of money. How copy, over? And someday soon when the State's bond rating is reduced to less than garbage and it can't borrow another dime, the whole system will implode, and then when people like Nellie wonder why the state can no longer pay its employees or do anything else, she needn't look any further than the closest mirror. 250,000 a year??!! Clinically, she probably can't find her way out of a paper bag. "I don't know why people are complaining about the overtime. We work the overtime," she said. "I don't think it's anybody's business." Whatever the fuck ever. Like I said, un-fucking believable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14320447) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:49 AM Author: marvelous bull headed property Man, fuck this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14318954) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 12:51 AM Author: claret area California is awesome at managing itself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14318968) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:06 AM Author: claret area Nellie Larot has been milking California dry for years.
2007: $228,230
2008: $255,337
2009: $275,384 |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:11 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office California's own fault with it's broken tax system and bloated gov spending. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319089) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:14 AM Author: claret area Have you considered becoming a parole officer?
Franklin D Tucker III, $301,118, http://bit.ly/djOrjM
Joseph J Gilmartin Jr, $255,352, http://bit.ly/9IqrOr
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:16 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office I've considered lots of work with the government... they're the only ones that do not seem to give a fuck about making a profit and just count on the fact that the world will always bring them money without even really trying
lmfao |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 10:15 AM Author: Alcoholic impressive striped hyena jesus christ
this nurse earned THREE-QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS in three years |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:10 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office Hey fuckwad OP... she was probably underpaid hth.
Nurses in the UK can make 100k pounds/year pretty easy. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:12 AM Author: dashing piazza *justifies ludicrously distorted salary caused by socialistic unionization wage practices by pointing to ludicrously distorted salaries caused by socialistic unionization wage practices* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319096) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:13 AM Author: Cruel-hearted Water Buffalo Yeah. Not good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319107) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:13 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office Um in Cali you have to have a bachelors to be a nurse... in the 1960s engineers were making this kind of wage (in 1960 dollars of course)
STFU idiot. She prob worked 90+hrs/week... pretty common salary actually (hint even in states with RNs being allowed to have 2 year degrees lmfao) If the gov would just stop taxing people and remove all their fuckwad regulations on EVERYTHING the free market would fix itself. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:15 AM Author: claret area "She prob worked 90+hrs/week"
And why would any well-run organization allow her to do that? |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:17 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office Hospitals allow this... extremely well run ones do...
It's called a really shitty job friend... and it requires an education.
Sure it's a super easy education, but 90% of US nurses do NOT have bachelors It doesn't matter how she made the money IMO... governments are irresponsible as FUCK with tax dollars
It costs California $48k/yr to imprison a single person... how fucking stupid is THAT by comparison. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:19 AM Author: deranged flirting hall Bullshit. It's irrational to spend $750,000 on a nurse over three years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319177) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:20 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office Bullshit it's irrational to spend $1.5 trillion in federal tax money and $2 trillion in total state money to educate fucking CHILDREN how to do MATH to the algebra level by the time they're 18.
You could do this in a 3-4 weeks by hiring an outside tutor for $20/hr |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 10:37 AM Author: Racy Bistre New Version Point And WTF does that have to do with this nurse? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14320385) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:21 AM Author: Translucent Irradiated Stag Film Headpube You have to be flame.
"It costs California $48k/yr to imprison a single person"
Perhaps their nurse compensation practices have something to do with that. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:22 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office No... it has next to nothing to do with it... Many states spend as much and pay their nurses utter shit wages
The reason it costs so much is the stupid political DEMAND for extremely luxurious prison systems. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:24 AM Author: deranged flirting hall Yeah, why don't you go ahead and tell us what composes that $48k figure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319229) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:27 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office http://www.lao.ca.gov/laoapp/laomenus/sections/crim_justice/6_cj_inmatecost.aspx?catid=3
Security is over HALF the costs |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:40 AM Author: claret area TRUE OR FALSE? Medical care, which includes nurses, is the second largest line item. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319325) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:42 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office true or false, you have zero idea how much time nurses spent with them vs doctors, NAs, LPNs, PAs, NPs, Coordinators, etc etc etc.
All aboard the failboat
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:42 AM Author: claret area Answer the question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319336) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:44 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office True... it was roughly 20% of all costs... nursing was probably <10% of the costs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319348) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:26 AM Author: appetizing nowag lol at state prisons being luxurios (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319241) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:26 AM Author: claret area He's an expert. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319245) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:28 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office Yeah I'm sure they need $19k for security for 1 prisoner...
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Date: March 7th, 2010 10:19 AM Author: chestnut hell Security Costs = Same OT bullshit for the guards.
The guards are doing the exact same thing as this bitch nurse. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:22 AM Author: appetizing nowag I cannot imagine most hospitals allow for overtime (my gf's does not). I image most hospitals (like most employers) cap their employees at 40 hrs and hire another employee to do any additional work.
As for it costing 48k to imprison a person, neither of use has any idea what it actually costs to do that. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:23 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office You're very very wrong
Many nurses where I work do 6 days 12hrs/day right now... and I'm in a TTT state.
It's cheaper for hospitals to staff the minimums needed and just call people in if the ER and shit overflows. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:26 AM Author: claret area It's not cheaper to let a single nurse make $250k/year for years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319240) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:29 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office You misunderstand the costs to employ I guess.
Paying 2 nurses $100k/yr (which is how much you'd pay 2 nurses) won't yield overall cost savings because of benefit premiums, insurances, etc etc etc
HTH
Hint... 2 nurses = 45hrs/week = $100k/yr each in salary = more costs than 1 nurse = 90 hrs/week
You understand nothing about medical regulations. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:40 AM Author: claret area Tell me about the relevant medical regulations you're referring to.
Also tell me where Nellie's other $70k fits into your analysis. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:44 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office The average benefits received by employees of the gov is around $43k/yr in benefits of all kinds... this includes medical insurance etc Also for every person like the above, you must have malpractice insurance which is a premium per person (roughly $2k-5k/yr for a nurse) On top of that you need to do continuing educations, keeping them listed, do drug screens on them, vaccinations, blahblahblahl Social security employer compensation as well
So yes... even with only the benefits being considered they're saving a LOT by doing it this way...
Also nurses in cali average a lot more than $100k/yr... I was just being as fair as possible. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:51 AM Author: Contagious address The fuck they are. More importantly why is a state with 13% unemployment allowing this shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319364) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:53 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office Because the state with 13% unemployment has extremely high taxes and very few educated people who are actually capable of producing positive GDP?
They are saving money... whether or not all nurses are overpaid there is irrelevant to the fact that by THEIR GOVERNMENT STANDARDS it's cheaper this way than employing 2 nurses.
Hint: if they got rid of their tax system, closed their borders and stopped subsidizing education they'd solve their issues. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:00 AM Author: claret area You're just making shit up.
http://www.allied-physicians.com/salary_surveys/nurse-salaries.htm
http://www.allnursingschools.com/faqs/salaries
http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Registered_Nurse_(RN)/Hourly_Rate/by_State |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:03 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office payscale is notoriously incorrect, but why don't you do the math on a 2200 hr year (45hrs/week) at $40/hr which is average in Cali
Now, STFU you dumbass failure at math.
I was ridiculously close to accurate and you still failed to even do any sort of honest breakdown about how much it costs hospitals to employ medical professionals. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:09 AM Author: Translucent Irradiated Stag Film Headpube "The average benefits received by employees of the gov is around $43k/yr in benefits of all kinds"
(1) Link?
(2) You're suggesting that government workers are overpaid, which sorta seems to be the point of this thread. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:13 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office lol I'm proving that governments by their very existence have no idea how to manage money because they have absolutely no incentive to try and manage money
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm
Dig around there was a thread about this like 3 days ago with the $43k number |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:25 AM Author: Translucent Irradiated Stag Film Headpube In other words, Nellie Larot is a symbol of government inability to be efficient.
Two private nurses could have done the same work for much less money. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 11:09 AM Author: Vigorous blathering crackhouse internal respiration so what if she worked 90+ hours? she's overpaid by a factor of around 3, even assuming she's doing the job of 2 nurses.
the real problem is that they're ALL overpaid. it's basically unskilled labor. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:15 AM Author: bipolar electric legal warrant Sounds like people are mad cuz she got an advanced degree and worked a lot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319127) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:16 AM Author: claret area Or...
California is terrible at managing its resources. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 1:18 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office or ... governments are always terrible at managing money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319167) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:06 AM Author: Twinkling motley school cafeteria or...the government is terrible at managing the money given to California to manage its resources (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319420) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:07 AM Author: Haunting Famous Landscape Painting Box Office You realize that the entire US average to imprison someone is $31k/yr/person right?
Cali is bad at managing money, but it's not like OMG LIKE ITS THE ONLY ONE having problems |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 2:37 AM Author: Twinkling motley school cafeteria maybe if we stopped wasting so much money on luxuries for prison inmates CA could afford to hire some good governmental managers who can better manage the government officials wasting the citizens money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14319581) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 10:22 AM Author: chestnut hell lol dude, it is not being spent on luxuries for the inmates. any luxuries the inmates have, they bought--from a some fucking prison retailer owned by the guard's union. The huge costs are from the prison guard union and their manipulation of over time hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14320338) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 10:51 AM Author: Twinkling motley school cafeteria ACTUALLY, 2 of the top 10 luxury prisons are in CA. case closed. http://www.askmen.com/fine_living/top_10/13_top_10.html |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 10:56 AM Author: chestnut hell No IDIOT. Those "PRISONS" Were NOT CALIFORNIA STATE PRISONS. Your retarded mens magazine article doesn't conclude shit, dumbass. Even if they were CA State prisons, CA has the largest prison system in the US (I'm guessing somewhere around 15% of the US prison pop), so odds are two of the luxury prisons would be in CA.
In any case, dipshit, those prisons were not run by the state of CA. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 10:58 AM Author: Twinkling motley school cafeteria link? I link my shit, you just spout shit with nothing to back it with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14320460) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 10:59 AM Author: chestnut hell link? it was your link you fucking retard
Date: March 7th, 2010 10:51 AM Author: LOW_IQ_SCHTICK
ACTUALLY, 2 of the top 10 luxury prisons are in CA.
case closed.
http://www.askmen.com/fine_living/top_10/13_top_10.html
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14320440) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 11:02 AM Author: chestnut hell LA County fucking jail (and, more specifically, a special needs unit within the jail) and Lompoc UNITED STATES Penitentiary.
Lol at you citing askmen when we are having an intelligent fucking discussion about public policy. |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 11:03 AM Author: Sexy french chef school the conversation was intelligent up until you failed to provide a link to back your claims (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14320477) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 11:05 AM Author: chestnut hell What claims you fucking idiot. He said that the CA prisons are luxurious because he read it in a stupid magazine. I pointed out that the prisons in said retard magazine are not relevant to our discussion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14320484) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 11:20 AM Author: Sexy french chef school fuck, outed my schtick again... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14320553) |
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Date: March 7th, 2010 11:04 AM Author: chestnut hell The only thing I claimed that could be backed by a link is the CA prison pop. This wasn't even essential to my argument you dumb ass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1243417&forum_id=2#14320479) |
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