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Noticing cons getting a little mouthy today fresh of SCOTUS birthright ruling

When judge issues a new TRO in the class action case in a fe...
Apoplectic Carnelian Son Of Senegal Resort
  06/30/25
off, not of jfc did you not learn English grammar in your E...
Chocolate Locus
  06/30/25
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Apoplectic Carnelian Son Of Senegal Resort
  06/30/25
Until Rach lets you edit OP’s this will be a recurring...
Marvelous sadistic dopamine
  06/30/25
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sick roast beef degenerate
  06/30/25
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rambunctious motley whorehouse scourge upon the earth
  06/30/25
“Golden retriever, fresh of the grill!”
brindle school marketing idea
  06/30/25
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rambunctious motley whorehouse scourge upon the earth
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Insanely creepy field
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swashbuckling police squad
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Emerald Fluffy Indirect Expression
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Chocolate Locus
  07/01/25
Agreed. The EO is blatantly illegal and there’s a clas...
Marvelous sadistic dopamine
  06/30/25
So do they just go back to calling for district judge impeac...
Apoplectic Carnelian Son Of Senegal Resort
  06/30/25
Of course not. Cons will address the merits this time
maniacal gay wizard
  06/30/25
no we'll just keep deporting illegals you retarded jewish pe...
fear-inspiring appetizing theater
  06/30/25
except Trump isn’t deporting more people than Biden or...
Apoplectic Carnelian Son Of Senegal Resort
  06/30/25
how is Trump being racist about it?
fear-inspiring appetizing theater
  06/30/25
180 then we'll get the SC to weigh in on that
Impertinent Gas Station
  06/30/25
(pegging mfe)
vermilion trip volcanic crater hissy fit
  06/30/25
It's kind of funny that the birthright EO was like the WORST...
Odious awkward organic girlfriend
  06/30/25
Thomas and Alito will still find some bs way to deviate from...
Apoplectic Carnelian Son Of Senegal Resort
  06/30/25
My big hope is that it opens the judicial overton window to ...
Odious awkward organic girlfriend
  06/30/25
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Chocolate Locus
  06/30/25
What legal argument do you think they'll make?
maniacal gay wizard
  06/30/25
Case is moot b/c they've all been renditioned to a salvadori...
Odious awkward organic girlfriend
  06/30/25
Cons? https://x.com/newswire_us/status/194331241802258865...
Apoplectic Carnelian Son Of Senegal Resort
  07/10/25


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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Apoplectic Carnelian Son Of Senegal Resort

When judge issues a new TRO in the class action case in a few days it will knock them back down a few pegs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060060)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Chocolate Locus

off, not of

jfc did you not learn English grammar in your ESL classes in Chongqing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060063)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:16 AM
Author: Apoplectic Carnelian Son Of Senegal Resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060067)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: Marvelous sadistic dopamine

Until Rach lets you edit OP’s this will be a recurring problem. It’s on his list.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060083)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:58 AM
Author: sick roast beef degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060213)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: rambunctious motley whorehouse scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060664)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: brindle school marketing idea

“Golden retriever, fresh of the grill!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060091)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: rambunctious motley whorehouse scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060094)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: Insanely creepy field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060673)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 3:27 AM
Author: swashbuckling police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062423)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 3:28 AM
Author: Emerald Fluffy Indirect Expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062424)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 4:07 AM
Author: Chocolate Locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062442)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: Marvelous sadistic dopamine

Agreed. The EO is blatantly illegal and there’s a class that can be sufficiently well-defined. This one isn’t too hard to get through that shitty scotus opinion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060092)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:28 AM
Author: Apoplectic Carnelian Son Of Senegal Resort

So do they just go back to calling for district judge impeachments or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060110)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: maniacal gay wizard

Of course not. Cons will address the merits this time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060159)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 12:51 PM
Author: fear-inspiring appetizing theater

no we'll just keep deporting illegals you retarded jewish pedophile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060518)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: Apoplectic Carnelian Son Of Senegal Resort

except Trump isn’t deporting more people than Biden or Obama, he’s just being racist about it when he does it. But THAT is what you voted for, not an increase in overall deportation numbers, so you should be happy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060713)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: fear-inspiring appetizing theater

how is Trump being racist about it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060931)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:47 AM
Author: Impertinent Gas Station

180 then we'll get the SC to weigh in on that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060173)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:42 AM
Author: vermilion trip volcanic crater hissy fit

(pegging mfe)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060157)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:04 PM
Author: Odious awkward organic girlfriend

It's kind of funny that the birthright EO was like the WORST vehicle to get a good (administration-favoring) ruling on universal injunctions.

The problems with universal injunctions are:

(1) non-reciprocity (different plaintiffs can keep suing and losing, but if the US loses once, it's bound) -- the US lost every single one of these suits below;

(2) forum shopping, which compounds the problem of point #1 -- most of these suits were stuck being filed in border states;

(3) the availability of a nationally binding rule from scotus (obviating the need for a nationally binding injunction at the district court level) -- because the US always lost, it just didn't take up the case on appeal, so no scotus case law will ever get created if the US just knows that said case law will inevitably be bad (as would be the case with a policy that's flagrantly unconstitutional): this was literally true of the instant case, where the US lost on everything below, but elected to only seek cert on the nationwide-injunction question, and not the merits of the EO;

(4) the availability of at least Circuit-binding rules from the COAs -- SG showed up at OA and surprised everyone by saying for the first time "yeah we usually respect circuit court precedent within that circuit, but that's a discretionary policy and we don't always follow it" (obviously the guy has something specific in mind, because that's a real inconvenient time to soften this policy);

(5) "a single district judge overruling the potus" -- I think this (meaning the merits of the EO) turned out to be like a 17-0 vote of different district and circuit judges (20-0 if you count the scotus dissenters, who were not shy about expressing their thoughts on the merits).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060796)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Apoplectic Carnelian Son Of Senegal Resort

Thomas and Alito will still find some bs way to deviate from their textualist/originalist schtick to rule in Trump’s favor, but yeah on the merits I expect Trump will lose 7-2 or 6-3 with Gorsuch possibly joining

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060814)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: Odious awkward organic girlfriend

My big hope is that it opens the judicial overton window to at least CONGRESS being able to narrow its own "jurisdiction thereof" (the 14th Am. term).

My understanding is that even that position was a minority view in the pre-2015 scholarship -- which, btw, can we all agree is the only scholarship that can be trusted on this shit, as any lib law professor writing on this issue in 2019 might as well be delivering a crying screed on MSNBC -- but it looks good af in comparison.

If scotus gives us that, at least senate dems will know that if they ever pull the trigger and eliminate the filibuster then they'll need to squeeze every last bit of hard work out of their housekeepers and nannies in the next 2 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060827)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:44 PM
Author: Chocolate Locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062241)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 3:13 PM
Author: maniacal gay wizard

What legal argument do you think they'll make?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060992)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:43 PM
Author: Odious awkward organic girlfriend

Case is moot b/c they've all been renditioned to a salvadorian concentration camp by now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062238)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Apoplectic Carnelian Son Of Senegal Resort

Cons?

https://x.com/newswire_us/status/1943312418022588657?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49089631)