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is TCR: 1. SDNY 2. DC 3. EDNY 4. NDIL 5. Central Cal ...
crawly therapy wrinkle
  02/05/12
DC is surprisingly unprestigious actually. They do a ton of...
zippy pink site affirmative action
  02/06/12
Oh. Do you think that DC is in the top 5? How much would...
crawly therapy wrinkle
  02/06/12
I'd probably put it around 6 -- the 4 you have plus EDVA and...
zippy pink site affirmative action
  02/06/12
y is NDIL > CD Cal?
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/06/12
Mainly because you work under Pat Fitzgerald. He's a badass....
crawly therapy wrinkle
  02/06/12
F'ing modern day Elliot Ness, bringing down Capone
Slippery Field
  02/06/12
I'd swap EDVA for EDNY. EDVA handles a lot of national secu...
stirring elastic band kitty
  02/05/12
If financial crimes = exciting for you then this is correct,...
Amber domesticated forum
  02/06/12
Bump.
crawly therapy wrinkle
  02/06/12
http://www.justice.gov/usao/mie/news/2012/2012_02_01_12peopl...
Aqua Razzle Jewess
  02/06/12
sndy/cdca/edva/ndil iirc
Chrome Friendly Grandma Jew
  02/06/12
nowg
brilliant market patrolman
  02/06/12
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passionate silver address
  02/07/12
what are the best US Atty offices for lifestyle/desirable lo...
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/06/12
lifestyle + cost of living = flyover country. SDCA will b...
Amber domesticated forum
  02/06/12
wont flyovers just be similarly busy w/ child cases
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/06/12
no, fewer libpedos
Magical Shivering Kitty Cat
  02/06/12
I'd throw N.D.Ga in there (very low CoL). Maybe one of the ...
dull dopamine
  02/07/12
which texas districts? what about nevada? northern florida...
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
...
Arrogant windowlicker temple
  02/07/12
no state income tax?
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/08/12
...
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/06/12
is the civil division of a USAO = TTT?
Magical Shivering Kitty Cat
  02/06/12
A lot of people ask this question, and I don't think there's...
Slippery Field
  02/06/12
my understand is the "prestige" can very from offi...
Abnormal racy depressive
  02/06/12
MFE.
Amber domesticated forum
  02/07/12
This is generally true. Main Justice is the more interestin...
Provocative startling ratface alpha
  02/07/12
yeah, civil AUSAs basically run their own cases without the ...
passionate silver address
  02/07/12
I guess I don't mind how "interesting" something i...
Slippery Field
  02/07/12
...
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
I agree that autonomy and lifestyle are most important. If ...
Provocative startling ratface alpha
  02/07/12
Pay is clearly the most important up to a point or else we'd...
crawly therapy wrinkle
  02/07/12
Thanks for clarifying.
Provocative startling ratface alpha
  02/07/12
I'm bored, man.
crawly therapy wrinkle
  02/07/12
Not sure of reliability of source but for some reason I thou...
hyperventilating green lodge french chef
  02/07/12
not sure
French Irradiated Stain
  02/07/12
LOL, so, so, so wrong.
odious rusted regret
  02/07/12
Haha good to know my friend's an idiot. On that note wha...
hyperventilating green lodge french chef
  02/07/12
1. U.S. Senator a. Legal Counsel to U.S. Senator b. ...
crawly therapy wrinkle
  02/07/12
There are plenty of good civil AUSA positions involving affi...
Provocative startling ratface alpha
  02/07/12
how long is the entire application process? If I want to le...
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
Now. No joke. It takes forever to get selected. 3-4 months. ...
crawly therapy wrinkle
  02/07/12
good to know
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
Does it hurt me to resume bomb US Atty Offices?
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
what are your stats and geographic preferences? word to the ...
passionate silver address
  02/07/12
i went to good non HYP ug, CCN with good grades, law review ...
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
you should be competitive. I went to a TTT50 law school but ...
passionate silver address
  02/07/12
i will do ADA first if it helps me get into a desired distri...
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
Can't you get connected with some AUSA's who can shuffle you...
Rose marvelous mother
  02/07/12
i dont work for any ex-ausas, i work for essentially one par...
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
Why not? You've competed all your life and have basically wo...
crawly therapy wrinkle
  02/07/12
i'm a striver and i know that i cannot compete with the very...
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
you're just now deciding to throw in the towel? this is rele...
Amber domesticated forum
  02/07/12
Like a lot of strivers, I burned out after several years of ...
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/08/12
your stats would make you competitive in any district IMO ...
passionate silver address
  02/07/12
Couldn't hurt to try C.D. Cal. They have a decent amount of...
dull dopamine
  02/07/12
what kind of people did they hire straight out of law school...
Territorial boltzmann
  02/07/12
People who would be competitive for clerkships I suppose (ht...
dull dopamine
  02/08/12
...
Territorial boltzmann
  02/08/12
if an AUSA office dings me without interview, can i expect a...
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
Assume ding. They wil contact you 1 or so month after submit...
crawly therapy wrinkle
  02/07/12
I got a "you ought to be hearing from us in the next fe...
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
no, yes
passionate silver address
  02/07/12
expect a letter if ding, but months and no interview means d...
Provocative startling ratface alpha
  02/07/12
will learning spanish or some other language make me more co...
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
why the fuck would a prosecutor need to communicate in spani...
passionate silver address
  02/07/12
...
thriller duck-like lay foreskin
  02/07/12
Yes but they'll stick you with immigration which is very mon...
crawly therapy wrinkle
  02/07/12
i dont want to be excited, i just want a relatively stable l...
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
...
thriller duck-like lay foreskin
  02/07/12
why
passionate silver address
  02/07/12
...
thriller duck-like lay foreskin
  02/07/12
how about WDNC About the Office: The United States Attorn...
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
would be competitive with your stats + COA clerkship IMO
passionate silver address
  02/07/12
lack of ties to NC though.
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
when i clerked at a D.Ct., the local USAO had a few out of t...
passionate silver address
  02/07/12
...
thriller duck-like lay foreskin
  02/07/12
is Asheville a nice city
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
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thriller duck-like lay foreskin
  02/07/12
sweet, exactly what i am looking for
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/07/12
asheville is the TITS
Rose marvelous mother
  02/07/12
Man I'm excited
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/08/12
Simplest to break it down by Circuit. This is for USAOs, no...
Wonderful pearly sex offender bawdyhouse
  02/07/12
what criteria are you using to rank these?
Fear-inspiring magenta hell
  02/07/12
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thriller duck-like lay foreskin
  02/07/12
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Abnormal racy depressive
  02/07/12
outrageous SD Fla/MD Fla trolling
Rose marvelous mother
  02/07/12
Basis is mixture of: 1. My impressions of AUSAs I've met ...
Wonderful pearly sex offender bawdyhouse
  02/07/12
I'm surprised sd cal is not more competitive.
mind-boggling ungodly box office
  02/08/12
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Territorial boltzmann
  02/08/12
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orange flatulent persian house
  02/08/12
none of you faggots are getting AUSA
passionate silver address
  02/08/12


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Date: February 5th, 2012 11:32 AM
Author: crawly therapy wrinkle

is TCR:

1. SDNY

2. DC

3. EDNY

4. NDIL

5. Central Cal

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19899968)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 9:13 AM
Author: zippy pink site affirmative action

DC is surprisingly unprestigious actually. They do a ton of boring local shit. The ones I've met have been pretty weak, too. EDVA is better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19908636)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 11:17 AM
Author: crawly therapy wrinkle

Oh. Do you think that DC is in the top 5?

How much would you need for DC or SDNY? Would 3 years at a V10, District Court Clerk, 4th Circuit Clerk be enough for DC or SDNY or does one typically need 2nd Cir or DC Cir clerkship?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19908912)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 11:22 AM
Author: zippy pink site affirmative action

I'd probably put it around 6 -- the 4 you have plus EDVA and NDCAL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19908932)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 12:03 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

y is NDIL > CD Cal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19909053)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 7:07 PM
Author: crawly therapy wrinkle

Mainly because you work under Pat Fitzgerald. He's a badass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19910985)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 9:04 PM
Author: Slippery Field

F'ing modern day Elliot Ness, bringing down Capone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19911675)



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Date: February 5th, 2012 12:13 PM
Author: stirring elastic band kitty

I'd swap EDVA for EDNY. EDVA handles a lot of national security prosecutions. EDNY isn't nearly as exciting (all the financial crimes go to SDNY).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19900303)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 6:26 PM
Author: Amber domesticated forum

If financial crimes = exciting for you then this is correct, but I'm going to say for the average joe law student who is willing to be real with himself and not care about prestige, the organized crime shit coming out of EDNY makes it way more exciting than SDNY.

SDNY is obviously more prestigious though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19910799)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 9:11 AM
Author: crawly therapy wrinkle

Bump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19908633)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 9:12 AM
Author: Aqua Razzle Jewess

http://www.justice.gov/usao/mie/news/2012/2012_02_01_12peopledrugcase.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19908635)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 11:20 AM
Author: Chrome Friendly Grandma Jew

sndy/cdca/edva/ndil iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19908924)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 11:21 AM
Author: brilliant market patrolman

nowg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19908928)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 8:35 AM
Author: passionate silver address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19914676)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 11:59 AM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

what are the best US Atty offices for lifestyle/desirable locations/cost of living etc...? SD Cal? SD Fla?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19909041)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 6:28 PM
Author: Amber domesticated forum

lifestyle + cost of living = flyover country.

SDCA will be busy as shit with all the immigration. probably similar in SD Fla.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19910809)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 7:11 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

wont flyovers just be similarly busy w/ child cases

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19910998)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 7:13 PM
Author: Magical Shivering Kitty Cat

no, fewer libpedos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19911007)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 1:56 AM
Author: dull dopamine

I'd throw N.D.Ga in there (very low CoL). Maybe one of the Texas ones (no state income tax).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19913854)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 4:58 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

which texas districts? what about nevada? northern florida? north carolina/south carolina?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19916736)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 9:14 PM
Author: Arrogant windowlicker temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19918340)



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Date: February 8th, 2012 12:30 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

no state income tax?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19922894)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 12:53 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19909256)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 7:14 PM
Author: Magical Shivering Kitty Cat

is the civil division of a USAO = TTT?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19911011)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 9:06 PM
Author: Slippery Field

A lot of people ask this question, and I don't think there's an easy answer.

Civil division make the same gov't dollars, with less stress than criminal, working gov't hours. It might not be as prestigious as crim division, but it's a pretty great gig to have, I'd imagine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19911680)



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Date: February 6th, 2012 9:47 PM
Author: Abnormal racy depressive

my understand is the "prestige" can very from office to office in the sense that some civil divisions do more affirmative litigation than others (govt suing people instead of defending). Some offices, all the interesting shit is done by the regional US Labor office or Main Justice Civil etc., with the USAO civil group left to the scraps (habeas, bivens shit, ftca defense, civil forfeiture)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19912017)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 2:44 AM
Author: Amber domesticated forum

MFE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19914048)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 8:42 AM
Author: Provocative startling ratface alpha

This is generally true. Main Justice is the more interesting place to be for civil work and the US Attorney's Offices are the more interesting place for criminal work.

That being said, even civil defense litigation in a USAO is preferable, in my opinion, to slaving away in a law firm snobitorium. You make decent money (six figures before long) and good benefits, and you get autonomy to litigate cases in federal court.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19914689)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 8:44 AM
Author: passionate silver address

yeah, civil AUSAs basically run their own cases without the compartmentalization you see in law firms, from what i understand. That's valuable experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19914691)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 2:47 PM
Author: Slippery Field

I guess I don't mind how "interesting" something is if I can make 6 figures, "work" 40 hours a week, and mostly be left alone in my office.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19916131)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 2:53 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19916145)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 4:44 PM
Author: Provocative startling ratface alpha

I agree that autonomy and lifestyle are most important. If the work is interesting, so much the better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19916645)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 4:56 PM
Author: crawly therapy wrinkle

Pay is clearly the most important up to a point or else we'd just not work and have all the autonomy and lifestyle we wanted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19916727)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 4:57 PM
Author: Provocative startling ratface alpha

Thanks for clarifying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19916732)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 5:01 PM
Author: crawly therapy wrinkle

I'm bored, man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19916751)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 9:59 AM
Author: hyperventilating green lodge french chef

Not sure of reliability of source but for some reason I thought that SDNY civil > SDNY crim for prestige?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19914851)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 1:33 PM
Author: French Irradiated Stain

not sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19915715)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 2:08 PM
Author: odious rusted regret

LOL, so, so, so wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19915893)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 2:44 PM
Author: hyperventilating green lodge french chef

Haha good to know my friend's an idiot.

On that note what are good fed gov options outside dc if you don't want to do criminal prosecutions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19916116)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 4:39 PM
Author: crawly therapy wrinkle

1. U.S. Senator

a. Legal Counsel to U.S. Senator

b. District Director to U.S. Senator

each requires travel to D.C., but pay as a Senator, Counsel, or District Director is over 100k.

2. U.S. Representative

a. Legal Counsel to U.S. Rep.

b. District Director to U.S. Rep.

See above.

3. FBI Agent

a. Alternatively, staff attorney to the FBI.

FBI has field offices in every major city and secondary cities, the work is somewhat interesting though the pay can be borderline insulting.

4. JAG Officer

a. pick a branch of the U.S military and get er done. If you are a Marine, you also probably get to be shot at. Being a marine makes you instantly likeable to just about everyone and makes you an instant alpha male regardless of height, build, or ability to pull girls. If you are a female poster, the Marines is also a fine option. Downside, you become a military lawyer with few transferrable legal skills once you leave the service.

5. EEOC or other agency options.

Um...this is a last resort. If you want the good work and prestige, just do D.C.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19916622)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 4:47 PM
Author: Provocative startling ratface alpha

There are plenty of good civil AUSA positions involving affirmative civil enforcement (e.g., health care fraud enforcement in South Florida is huge and spreading quickly to other parts of the country).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19916665)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 5:23 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

how long is the entire application process? If I want to leave biglaw by the end of next February, when should I start applying?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19916861)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 6:38 PM
Author: crawly therapy wrinkle

Now. No joke. It takes forever to get selected. 3-4 months. Then after that it could be 6-8 months before all the paper work and background check stuff can be done. I think you could start work, but it is conditional. Might as well just stay at the firm until everything is good to go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917295)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 6:42 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

good to know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917312)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 6:46 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

Does it hurt me to resume bomb US Atty Offices?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917332)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:09 PM
Author: passionate silver address

what are your stats and geographic preferences? word to the wise: dont apply to an office in a district you wouldnt be OK with living in for at least 4 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917503)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:15 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

i went to good non HYP ug, CCN with good grades, law review COA clerkship from active, good and respected judge, midlevel in biglaw. i would prefer to stay in Cali or go to Florida, but I am pretty much open to anywhere. i dont have any trial experience though, and very little white collar experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917556)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:17 PM
Author: passionate silver address

you should be competitive. I went to a TTT50 law school but swung my way into a couple of clerkships, would love to get a sniff from a USAO somewhere w/o having to work at a firm or do state prosecution first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917564)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:18 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

i will do ADA first if it helps me get into a desired district. will also do a dct clerkship if it will help as well. im concerned that lack of geographical ties and lack of trial experience is an auto-ding for many of these districts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917574)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:21 PM
Author: Rose marvelous mother

Can't you get connected with some AUSA's who can shuffle your application in the right direction? This obviously makes getting hired much easier than blindly sending.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917591)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:22 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

i dont work for any ex-ausas, i work for essentially one partner 24/7. the only people i know who are current ausas are acquaintances at pressure cooker competitive districts that i dont want to apply to

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917604)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:23 PM
Author: crawly therapy wrinkle

Why not? You've competed all your life and have basically won. What gives?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917616)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:27 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

i'm a striver and i know that i cannot compete with the very best. i was ttt at my prior highly prestigious firm and clearly dumber than my co-clerks. i'd rather just do lifestyle somewhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917642)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 9:37 PM
Author: Amber domesticated forum

you're just now deciding to throw in the towel? this is relevant to my interests. im a current striver clerk, probably the dumbest among my co-clerks. no offer pwned. rather than looking for biglaw again im considering just moving to are-country and forming babby with wife. credited? loans are close to being paid off and a non-issue.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19918506)



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Date: February 8th, 2012 12:11 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

Like a lot of strivers, I burned out after several years of biglaw. The money is not that great for what u do and the best I can hope for his partner in some lower v100 making barely more than 300k working 24-7 as a senior partner's bitch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19922782)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:24 PM
Author: passionate silver address

your stats would make you competitive in any district IMO

if youre the type im competing against, im fucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917625)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 11:06 PM
Author: dull dopamine

Couldn't hurt to try C.D. Cal. They have a decent amount of turnover and a few years ago they used to hire people through the honors program straight out of law school/clerkships (not sure if that's still true). S.D. Fla. is big on drug cases, so you'd definitely get good trial experience down there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19919326)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 11:08 PM
Author: Territorial boltzmann

what kind of people did they hire straight out of law school? doods w/ prosecution backgrounds or doods w/ biglaw backgrounds?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19919340)



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Date: February 8th, 2012 10:59 PM
Author: dull dopamine

People who would be competitive for clerkships I suppose (http://www.justice.gov/careers/legal/entry-participants.html#usao-cac). So depending on circuit/district, probably top 5% or 10%, law review/journal, and maybe people who have shown an interest in criminal law/litigation? I honestly don't know, but there's gotta be someone out there who has done it (maybe not straight through, but coming off a clerkship).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19927911)



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Date: February 8th, 2012 8:00 PM
Author: Territorial boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19926035)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:16 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

if an AUSA office dings me without interview, can i expect a short ding letter letting me know? or if i haven't heard back in 3+ months, should I just assume ding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917559)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:19 PM
Author: crawly therapy wrinkle

Assume ding. They wil contact you 1 or so month after submitting to tell you that you are still being considered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917577)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:20 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

I got a "you ought to be hearing from us in the next few months email" and then silence. ding? how long should i wait to re-apply?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917588)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:20 PM
Author: passionate silver address

no, yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917583)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:20 PM
Author: Provocative startling ratface alpha

expect a letter if ding, but months and no interview means ding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917586)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:23 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

will learning spanish or some other language make me more competitive, or is pointless b/c there are so many native speakers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917610)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:25 PM
Author: passionate silver address

why the fuck would a prosecutor need to communicate in spanish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917630)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:36 PM
Author: thriller duck-like lay foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917677)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:26 PM
Author: crawly therapy wrinkle

Yes but they'll stick you with immigration which is very monotonous. How many times can you really be excited by illegal re-entry?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917635)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:29 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

i dont want to be excited, i just want a relatively stable litigation job with decent hours

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917646)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:35 PM
Author: thriller duck-like lay foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917668)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:36 PM
Author: passionate silver address

why

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917673)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:38 PM
Author: thriller duck-like lay foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917682)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:39 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

how about WDNC

About the Office: The United States Attorney's Office prosecutes federal offenses and defends the U.S. Government's interest in criminal cases. The Western District of North Carolina, covers 32 western most counties of North Carolina. The main office is in Charlotte, North Carolina, with a staffed branch office in Asheville.

Responsibilities and Opportunity Offered: The United States Attorney's Office for the Western District of North Carolina is currently seeking one (1) highly qualified Assistant United States Attorney (AUSA) candidate for the Appellate Division. Applicants should have a strong academic background with excellent research, writing, and advocacy skills. Applicants with judicial clerkship experience will be given preferential consideration.

Required Qualifications: Applicants must possess a J.D. degree, be an active member of the bar (any jurisdiction), and have at least 1 year post-J.D. experience.

Applicants must demonstrate a quick analytical ability and the facility to accurately and precisely articulate the critical issues in a case. Applicants must demonstrate superior oral and writing skills as well as strong research and interpersonal skills, and good judgment. Applicants must possess excellent communication and courtroom skills, and exhibit the ability to work in supportive and professional manner with other attorneys, support staff and client agencies. Applicants must have a demonstrated capacity to function, with minimal guidance, in a highly demanding office and courtroom environment.

Preferred qualifications: Strong academic background and judicial clerkship experience, especially in the federal appellate courts.

Travel: Occasional travel, both within and outside the District will be required. The AUSA will travel to attend court proceedings, interview witnesses and attend meetings. Travel is required for training at the Department of Justice's National Advocacy Center, Columbia South Carolina.

Salary Information: Assistant United States Attorneys' pay is administratively determined based, in part, on the number years of professional attorney experience. The range of basic pay is $44,581 to $131,534 plus locality pay where authorized.

Location: Western District of North Carolina - Charlotte, NC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917689)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:41 PM
Author: passionate silver address

would be competitive with your stats + COA clerkship IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917708)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:44 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

lack of ties to NC though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917730)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:46 PM
Author: passionate silver address

when i clerked at a D.Ct., the local USAO had a few out of towners IIRC. Most were locals but a few were out of town superstar types (like you would be in a flyover USAO).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917738)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:44 PM
Author: thriller duck-like lay foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917724)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:44 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

is Asheville a nice city

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917733)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:46 PM
Author: thriller duck-like lay foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917740)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 7:47 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

sweet, exactly what i am looking for

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19917744)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 10:06 PM
Author: Rose marvelous mother

asheville is the TITS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19918822)



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Date: February 8th, 2012 12:12 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

Man I'm excited

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19922789)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 8:53 PM
Author: Wonderful pearly sex offender bawdyhouse

Simplest to break it down by Circuit. This is for USAOs, not clerkships:

1st Circuit

D. Mass.

D.R.I.

D.N.H.

D. Me.

D.P.R.

2d Circuit

S.D.N.Y.

E.D.N.Y.

D. Conn.

W.D.N.Y.

N.D.N.Y.

D. Vt.

3d Circuit

D.N.J.

E.D. Pa.

D.V.I.

W.D. Pa.

D. Del.

M.D. Pa.

4th Circuit

E.D. Va.

D. Md.

W.D.N.C.

E.D.N.C.

W.D. Va.

D.S.C.

M.D.N.C.

S.D. W. Va.

N.D. W. Va.

5th Circuit

S.D. Tex.

W.D. Tex.

N.D. Tex.

E.D. Tex.

E.D. La.

S.D. Miss.

M.D. La.

W.D. La.

N.D. Miss.

6th Cir.

S.D. Ohio

E.D. Mich.

N.D. Ohio

M.D. Tenn.

E.D. Tenn.

W.D. Mich.

W.D. Tenn.

E.D. Ky.

W.D. Ky.

7th Cir.

N.D. Ill.

E.D. Wis.

S.D. Ind.

W.D. Wis.

N.D. Ind.

C.D. Ill.

S.D. Ill.

8th Cir.

D. Minn.

E.D. Mo.

W.D. Mo.

S.D. Iowa

D. Neb.

N.D. Iowa

W.D. Ark.

E.D. Ark.

D.S.D.

D.N.D.

9th Cir.

C.D. Cal.

N.D. Cal.

E.D. Cal.

D. Haw.

S.D. Cal.

D. Ariz.

W.D. Wash.

D. Nev.

D. Ore.

D. Alaska

D. Mon.

E.D. Wash.

D. Idaho

10th Cir.

D. Colo.

W.D. Okla.

D. Utah

D.N.M.

D. Kan.

N.D. Okla.

D. Wyo.

E.D. Okla.

11th Cir.

S.D. Fla.

M.D. Fla.

N.D. Ga.

N.D. Fla.

N.D. Ala.

M.D. Ala.

S.D. Ala.

S.D. Ga.

M.D. Ga.

Top Ten

S.D.N.Y.

E.D. Va.

D.D.C.

C.D. Cal.

E.D.N.Y.

N.D. Ill.

S.D. Fla.

D.N.J.

S.D. Tex.

N.D. Cal.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19918175)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 9:34 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring magenta hell

what criteria are you using to rank these?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19918475)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 9:36 PM
Author: thriller duck-like lay foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19918493)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 10:03 PM
Author: Abnormal racy depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19918784)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 10:07 PM
Author: Rose marvelous mother

outrageous SD Fla/MD Fla trolling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19918829)



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Date: February 7th, 2012 10:12 PM
Author: Wonderful pearly sex offender bawdyhouse

Basis is mixture of:

1. My impressions of AUSAs I've met from various districts (and their "prestige"). I've met a lot at the National Advocacy Center.

2. Desirability of location.

3. Generic lay prestige of district.

4. General complexity of types of cases handled.

5. Size of office.

6. Types of lawyers hired generally (some offices hire BigLaw/clerkship folks, who most people would say have better legal "prestige" or "pedigree," while other offices hire more from local DA offices).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19918876)



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Date: February 8th, 2012 12:15 PM
Author: mind-boggling ungodly box office

I'm surprised sd cal is not more competitive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19922799)



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Date: February 8th, 2012 12:58 AM
Author: Territorial boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19920368)



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Date: February 8th, 2012 9:03 PM
Author: orange flatulent persian house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19926747)



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Date: February 8th, 2012 11:00 PM
Author: passionate silver address

none of you faggots are getting AUSA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1865731&forum_id=2#19927929)