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Date: July 27th, 2009 12:54 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office Presidents get a honeymoon that eventually fades away. Obama's irresponsible choices on the (inevitably ineffective) stimulus bill led to a declining approval, even as voters still liked him personally. "Shovel ready" is a lie and "green jobs" are a fraud. But now that 80% of white Americans disapproved of his response to the Gates incident, the honeymoon is over. Rasmussen has him at -10 and as the unemployment climbs, as it surely will, so will disapproval. (Obama will only sporadically address economic growth and employment.) Obama has committed himself to the obvious lie that letting the government take over healthcare will improve the debt situation -- a claim that no one, least of all Obama, Rahm, and Pelosi actually believes. As we roll into the 2010 Congressional races, independents and centrist Dems have already peeled away. Obama will face an electoral college problem in 2012 and only a bad GOP choice can win him a second term. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360311) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 12:57 PM Author: arousing thirsty international law enforcement agency mediation this is the funniest board. I read this and think Obama is universally hated...then I actually look at his approval ratings and newspapers and talk to people and it turns out people think he doing a pretty good job given the set of circumstances. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360330) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 12:59 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office Voters like him personally, no doubt. But the approval numbers don't lie. He's at -10, even though he's still in the honeymoon phase. And the unemployment will rise over the next four months.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:07 PM Author: arousing thirsty international law enforcement agency mediation I am not sure he is still in the honeymoon phase. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360364) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:08 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office My sense is that the residual honeymoon just got shut down by the Gates thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360369) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 12:59 PM Author: Laughsome offensive location pocket flask I'm sure Huffpo would have you believe that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360335) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:01 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office Credited. But just look at the polls. Like the one I linked to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360338) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:06 PM Author: Laughsome offensive location pocket flask Yeah, he's got some problems now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360355) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:11 PM Author: arousing thirsty international law enforcement agency mediation he is fine. Economy will be in the shitter for another year or two and turn around just in time for him to get reelected. Just like Reagan, who presided over 2 years of recessions, before, poof, right before his reelection campaign everything turned around.
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:12 PM Author: Electric crawly orchestra pit sandwich yeah, but reagan had good economic policies. Obama's policies are making things worse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360387) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:14 PM Author: painfully honest boiling water According to conservatives, FDR's policies made the Depression worse. he still won reelection in a landslide. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360400) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:15 PM Author: arousing thirsty international law enforcement agency mediation Right. That is so obviously a given with economists split down the middle on the question.
But obviously, you will say, that any economist worth anything, thinks that Obama's policies are crap, so in reality there is consensus among real economists |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:17 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office The public doesn't give a fuck about an intra-economist debate. They give a fuck about unemployment and debt. And they can't believe that anyone is proposing to turn over health care to the government in this economy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360412) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:20 PM Author: arousing thirsty international law enforcement agency mediation No. They don't care about unemployment unless they are unemployed...and they don't care about debt except to the extent it affects them....and the vast majority of the voting public is still employed....and interest rates are low.
Everyone cares about how it effects them...and there is a huge group of people who will benefit greatly from universal health care...the people that don't benefit as much (or at least don't think they do) aren't a big enough group to do much on their own. |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:22 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office voters don't care about unemployment? wgiyf. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360448) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:25 PM Author: arousing thirsty international law enforcement agency mediation Not the difference between 10% and 8%. So, what, that means that 1 or 2 more people they know is unemployed? The extra unemployed voter is definitely not going to swing voting.
Where is your evidence that people vote based on unemployment numbers? |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:54 PM Author: Vibrant outnumbered native keepsake machete the actual rate of unemployment is far greater than 10%, i believe they stop counting you if you've been unemployed for more than 6 months or some similar mechanism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360672) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:58 PM Author: arousing thirsty international law enforcement agency mediation and along the same vein, when the unemployment rate is 8%, in reality it is far greater than 8%. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360690) |
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Date: January 18th, 2010 7:32 PM Author: mahogany nighttime menage this place is hardcore RW, hth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#13844216) |
Date: July 27th, 2009 1:00 PM Author: painfully honest boiling water In other words: About half of the whites who voted for him, and all of the Republicans, disapprove of the way he handled the Gates situation? Not too bad, considering. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360337) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:03 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office Getting 80% of Americans to agree on an issue is very hard -- and not something Obama wanted to see. The larger effect is to peel away indies and centrist Dems. They're the reason he won. If they don't believe in Obama, it will hurt in the 2010 election, it will prevent the health care bill, it force centrist Dems in red states into distancing themselves from Obama. All of which is starting to happen right now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360343) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:05 PM Author: painfully honest boiling water People who voted for Obama won't care. I bet 80% of people disapproved of Rev. Wright.
Edit: that's 80 of WHITES, not all American. I'd imagine the percentage is markedly lower for Blacks and Hispanics. |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:12 PM Author: arousing thirsty international law enforcement agency mediation people will have forgotten about this Gates thing by the middle of August. That has no legs no matter what his detractors try to do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360386) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:14 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office That's not the point. The point is that the public doesn't look at him the same way anymore. They want answers and results. Unemployment will rise, and as Obama claims that "government control of health care reduces debt" his shit will stink. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360398) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:04 PM Author: Sickened buff becky theater Not surprised about the Gates slip-up. Obama has spent most of his life in universities where the whites are all self-hating, he had no idea how normal people would react. What he said is common coin at colleges and law schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360349) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:06 PM Author: marvelous white cuckoldry the dude is pretty out of touch with the American people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360358) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:13 PM Author: arousing thirsty international law enforcement agency mediation yeah, luckily. Having a President in touch with the average American would be frightening...Palin and Bush rolled into one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360390) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:15 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office Reagan was. Clinton was. Nothing wrong with that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360401) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:18 PM Author: painfully honest boiling water What do you regard as "in touch"? Clinton lost the majority of the white vote TWICE.
He appealed to a minority of whites, and an overwhelmingly majority of Hispanics and Blacks. Just like Obama. |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:22 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office by "in touch" the other post and i meant a cultural affinity back and forth. clinton was white trash american from arkansas. poors of both races "got" him and vice versa. reagan was middle american all the way. obama's been taken by the hand in elite schools since high school, and as jesse jackson said, obama's "talking down" to people. that obama would be surprised by the reaction to his obviously stupid comment by crowley just proves the point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360443) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:24 PM Author: painfully honest boiling water So in other words, you need a poor/middle class WASP to connect to Americans?
Blacks are never going to be culturally attuned to Middle America. |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:26 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office actually, you don't. roosevelt, famously, had a rapport with the little guy. obama just doesn't have one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360474) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:29 PM Author: arousing thirsty international law enforcement agency mediation then who the heck voted for him so overwhelmingly. Just rich people? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360504) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:31 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office centrist dems and indies who bought the "change" and "post-partisan" memes. they have deserted obama already. obama's at -10 now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360518) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:34 PM Author: arousing thirsty international law enforcement agency mediation your whole argument is based on strong approval vs. strong disapproval...look at his approval vs. disapproval number...those are still pretty strong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360529) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:34 PM Author: stirring plum juggernaut hall I think people overestimate Clinton's success with poor and rural whites.
Clinton did better with them than Obama, but he still lost them.
What Obama has done is replaced rural whites with more liberal, urban whites, of which there are more of given the revitalization of cities and younger people moving to cities. That won't change. He has lost some of his more upscale suburban support right now, but he can win that back if the general economy recovers. |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:21 PM Author: arousing thirsty international law enforcement agency mediation oh, well if those guys were in touch, then Obama surely is. The average democrat leaning american (ie: 60%of the country) still loves him. Surely, rednecks in the South hate him, but whats new. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360441) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:07 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office Credited. Obama was shocked at how blue collar American reacted. Funny, but it was the offer of a beer by the blue collar guy that might save the situation for Obama.
But the WH better get to Gates and tell him to clean up his high and mighty act before the big event. Gates, who's quite white by the way, is an elitist with no idea how he comes across. |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:14 PM Author: medicated brindle principal's office organic girlfriend credited. Gates needs to shut the fuck up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360399) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:09 PM Author: salmon diverse internal respiration tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360372) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:12 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office That is also what was behind Sotomayor's claim that wise latinas make "better" decisions than white males. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360384) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:21 PM Author: apoplectic nofapping famous landscape painting trust fund This is fairly credited. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360438) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:20 PM Author: stirring plum juggernaut hall Obama will recover, but I admit it was a tough situation for him.
One thing Obama needs to better understand is how "class" works in the US. Obama and Gates don't think like this, but most Americans view them (fairly or unfairly) as of a higher class than folks like the cop, and when you berate a guy like that, most Americans typically react negatively. |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:22 PM Author: painfully honest boiling water Like when Reagan berated (then fired) the air traffic controllers?
Or when Bloomberg called the striking transit workers "thugs"? |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:23 PM Author: stirring plum juggernaut hall Air traffic controllers and transit workers aren't sympathetic figures. Cops typically are. You are going to argue race has a role, but air traffic controllers were probably mostly white.
Striking transit workers were TTT, BTW. |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:25 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office and they went out on strike, illegally, which fucked over traveling americans. it was the dumbest union move ever, with the possible exception of the MLB umpires who resigned because they were sure that baseball couldn't work without them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360467) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:27 PM Author: painfully honest boiling water "Cops typically are."
I'd argue that amongst a large portion of America, they're no more sympathetic than transit workers.
"Striking transit workers were TTT, BTW."
I'm never going to knock others for trying to bargain for more money. |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:28 PM Author: stirring plum juggernaut hall "I'm never going to knock others for trying to bargain for more money."
I don't argue against strikes, particularly industrial strikes. Service oriented strikes, though, have upset me from time to time. They happened at Yale and I didn't lik them then, and they happened at the MTA as well.
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:24 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office America loved it when Reagan fucked the union. What are the odds of Obama taking on the teachers union and saying, "you've fucked up urban education enough"? that day will never come. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360458) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:26 PM Author: Cheese-eating swashbuckling market stock car you forgot one minor detail. it was against federal law for air traffic controllers to go on strike. And reagan called their bluff by firing their sorry ass. Americans' respect for Reagan grew immensely after that incident because it showed strong leadership and an actual backbone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360473) |
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Date: January 18th, 2010 7:37 PM Author: drunken office tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#13844296) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:32 PM Author: flatulent rebellious useless brakes heaven Obama was raised by whites and attended white kids schools and worked in a white collar law firm. Did he race bait in an attempt for street cred? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360522) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:34 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office Your point about how he was raised is a good one, but he did the opposite of race baiting: he ran as the post-racial guy, which is very appealing to whites. then when an elite black prof fucked up, obama called the blue collar white guy "stupid." obama betrayed his carefully cultivated image. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360538) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:37 PM Author: tan slippery library deer antler "obama called the blue collar white guy "stupid."
this is completely false. |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:37 PM Author: flatulent rebellious useless brakes heaven self loathing beta whites in the northeast are not representative of america (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360551) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:39 PM Author: painfully honest boiling water According to the last election, they are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360563) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:42 PM Author: flatulent rebellious useless brakes heaven McCain had 55% of the white vote. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#12360582) |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:43 PM Author: painfully honest boiling water Apparently whites aren't representative of America.
Just to spell it out: Right of center whites are not the majority of America. |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:44 PM Author: flatulent rebellious useless brakes heaven the ole bait and switch
congrats on your 149 |
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Date: July 27th, 2009 1:38 PM Author: stirring plum juggernaut hall I think this is a misconception
Obama ran as a "post racial" guy? His biggest speech in the campaign was about race. Certain folks saw "post racial" in Obama, but most of those were Andrew Sullivan types who lean democrat anyway and are going to vote for him again in 2012. Plus, Obama spent millions of dollars driving up the black and Hispanic vote.
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Date: January 18th, 2010 7:33 PM Author: flatulent rebellious useless brakes heaven Sounds exactly like Tiger Woods. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#13844222) |
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Date: January 18th, 2010 7:34 PM Author: Sickened buff becky theater It was a bad year for blacks (Gates, Serena, Kanye, Tiger, Oregon football player, Obama, etc.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#13844242) |
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Date: January 18th, 2010 7:36 PM Author: copper cocky mad cow disease twinkling uncleanness Gilbert Arenas didn't exactly reverse the trend in 2010 either (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#13844270) |
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Date: January 18th, 2010 7:27 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office i wrote this in july. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#13844154) |
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Date: January 18th, 2010 7:31 PM Author: Sickened buff becky theater prescient (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#13844206) |
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Date: January 18th, 2010 7:33 PM Author: metal hairraiser cruise ship lettuce smart dood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#13844227) |
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Date: January 18th, 2010 7:38 PM Author: drunken office ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#13844306) |
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Date: January 18th, 2010 8:40 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office thanks. i take this stuff seriously. i had reasonably high hopes for obama, but it wasn't to be. he made a series of irresponsible choices.
god damn it, i was right. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2010 11:23 AM Author: Rose big-titted box office US News finally gets around to noting that the bubble is deflating.
The critical point now is whether Obama can maintain any cred with the activist left. My guess is no. Centrist Dems will force Obama/Rahm/Pelosi to focus on job creation for the next 10 months. |
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Date: August 18th, 2010 5:33 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office I wrote this in July 09, and truer words were never spoken. The Mosque comment could not have been timed more dumberer. Obama acted stupidly.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/142160/Obama-Sees-New-Lows-Job-Approval.aspx |
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Date: August 18th, 2010 5:38 PM Author: metal hairraiser cruise ship lettuce Obama is a goddamn clown and the retards ("progressives") who put him in office are traitors to are country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#15821357) |
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Date: August 18th, 2010 5:50 PM Author: misanthropic clear black woman yes! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#15821471) |
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Date: August 18th, 2010 5:54 PM Author: Fluffy scarlet rehab partner bradley effect in 2012 ftw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#15821504) |
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Date: July 8th, 2011 5:18 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office i posted the OP two years ago, before the biggest GOP win in the House in 60 years and given today's unemployment numbers the OP was dead on the money.
it was the beginning of the huge slide for Barrack Hussein. |
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Date: July 8th, 2011 5:23 PM Author: Slap-happy hell "given today's numbers unemployment numbers the OP was dead on the money."
What does this mean? |
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Date: July 8th, 2011 5:25 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office fixed it. BHO never committed to growing private sector jobs and unless the GOP fucks up massively, it will lead to a big POTUS win for GOP, maybe even getting the Senate too. the House will stay GOP, obviously. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#18453152) |
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Date: July 8th, 2011 5:27 PM Author: Slap-happy hell Your OP says "as the unemployment climbs so will disapproval."
Despite the recent rise, unemployment is lower than when you posted. That's hardly "right on the money." |
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Date: July 8th, 2011 5:30 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office the fact that it would climb and not drop as promised. the fact that Obama had passed his "peak-Obama" moment. the fact that he's lost the class of voters he'd need in 2012. the fact that the Dems had already lost the voters for the fall 2010 Congressional elections. people are still denying most of that stuff today, but it was obvious to me two years ago that he was done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#18453185) |
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Date: July 8th, 2011 5:31 PM Author: Slap-happy hell Speak in complete sentences dude.
Anyway, this "bump to show how awesome my prediction was" pales in comparison to the Ohio State thread. |
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Date: July 8th, 2011 5:32 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office i concede that i am not in the same league with the tOSU thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#18453199) |
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Date: November 29th, 2011 8:32 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office NYT reports that Obama is now giving up on blue collar white Democrats and rural Democrats.
http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/27/the-future-of-the-obama-coalition/?ref=opinion |
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Date: November 30th, 2011 7:38 PM Author: Razzmatazz Coldplay Fan (oppressed white faggot who lost his shit when the nigger president called a white man - a WHITE MAN - "stupid") (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#19473877) |
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Date: November 30th, 2011 7:41 PM Author: massive potus to be fair, he said he "acted stupidly" not that he was stupid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#19473909) |
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Date: November 30th, 2011 7:43 PM Author: Razzmatazz Coldplay Fan ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#19473932) |
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Date: November 30th, 2011 8:06 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office just an incredibly accurate prediction years ahead of the conventional wisdom, that's all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#19474163) |
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Date: November 30th, 2011 8:08 PM Author: Razzmatazz Coldplay Fan (persecuted white faggot who was *enraged* that nigger potus called dumb white cop "stupid") (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#19474177) |
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Date: December 9th, 2011 6:17 PM Author: Razzmatazz Coldplay Fan lol @ your racial obsession faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#19539053) |
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Date: December 9th, 2011 6:20 PM Author: metal hairraiser cruise ship lettuce (delusional obama fanboi) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#19539071) |
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Date: December 9th, 2011 6:22 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office my poast is looking pretty good. it was well before the '10 midterms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#19539079) |
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Date: December 9th, 2011 6:25 PM Author: Razzmatazz Coldplay Fan lol @ your racial resentments faggot. i'm sure you honestly thought that calling a WHITE MAN "stupid" was such an outrage and the turning point for obama, rather than continued economic troubles from the Bush depression. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#19539093) |
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Date: December 9th, 2011 6:43 PM Author: fuchsia histrionic jap mother The NYT report was wildly misleading (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#19539189) |
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Date: December 9th, 2011 6:47 PM Author: Rose big-titted box office how? there have been a lot of follow ups indicating that the obama strategy is to largely write off white working class people and go with the ultra elite and the minorities.
if that's wrong, let me know. |
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Date: December 9th, 2011 6:17 PM Author: Razzmatazz Coldplay Fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1051408&forum_id=2#19539049) |