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|image http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Setonhallgrad.jpg |name = Seton Hall University School of Law |established = 1951 |type = Private |president= Msgr. Robert Sheeran |dean= Patrick E. Hobbs |city = Newark |state = New Jersey |country = USA |students = 1,142 |faculty = 82

|ranking = 66

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Newark campus

Seton Hall is a middling, 2nd tier diploma mill located in Newark, NJ. Recently, the school plunged a full 11 points in the US News rankings, dropping from 66th to 77th. This was the second-largest drop among law schools in the #51 to #100 range. A new ranking methodology which includes the stats of part-time students as a criteria dealt a harsh blow to Seton Hall, which maximizes profit (and administrator salaries) by packing the night program to the rafters with low LSAT and GPA students, most of whom will have no legitimate employment options at graduation.

At over $43,500 a year, Seton Hall's tuition is beyond exorbitant. Most graduates end up unemployed or enter the Traffic Court Clerkship (TCC) program, which pays $35,000 a year and allows the law school to painlessly wash its hands of a good number of graduates. Following their stint in traffic court, most Seton Hall grads enter small-time ambulance chasing "firms" that pay under $40,000 a year. Many scrape by with part-time employment in document review for as little as $17 an hour, bitter and angry at life and the lies of Seton Hall.

No discussion of Seton Hall is complete without mentioning uber-shyster Patrick E. Hobbs, known on message boards as the "Valvoline Dean" for his oleaginous, used-car salesman persona, insincere posturing, and shameless manipulation of salary and employment data. The man takes more liberty with salary statistics than Michael Jackson did with 4 year olds at a Chuck-E-Cheese playpen. Hobbs was "called out" in an October 2006 Wall St Journal op-ed for accepting on behalf of Seton Hall an endowment from Bristol Meyers Squibb that was clearly a strong-armed shakedown of the company by US Attorney Christopher Christie, a Seton Hall alum and longtime crony of the Valvoline Dean. As part of a "deferred prosecution" agreement, Bristol Meyers agreed to cough up almost a million bucks for an "ethics chair" at Seton Hall. The WSJ personally noted Hobbs's moral bankruptcy in accepting this obvious shakedown, but the Valvoline Dean greased the deal thru and lost no sleep. This man slumbers like a baby on a mattress softened by the indebted souls his school has crushed.

On July 23, 2009, borderline mental retard Peter Cammarano, a Seton Hall Law alum and mayor of Hoboken, NJ, was charged with extortion by color of offical right for accepting $25,000 from an undercover FBI agent. He no doubt learned this pattern of dishonesty and sleaze at Seton Hall, a school noted for publishing patently fraudulent employment & salary statistics. The Valvoline Dean quickly morphed into full "Red Alert" damage control mode, eliminating all hagiographic references to Cammarano from the law school's website. Rumor has it that his stooges had to quickly "man their battle stations" as the school entered "Code Camarrano", trying to scrub any Seton Hall/Cammarano references from the blogosphere and refresh this Wiki page every 30 seconds to prevent Cammarano info such as this from being posted.

However, the truth is already leaking out. The comical boiler room shitlaw "firm" that Scam-arrano worked at has deep ties to both Seton Hall and the infamous Valvoline Dean, as well as Hudson County democrat machine politics. Partner meetings there were allegedly akin to scenes from the film GlenGary, Glenross, with Scamarrano telling his underlings how slick of a salesman he was. Cammarano once even removed his wristwatch and told a crowd of summer associates: "You see this watch? This watch cost more than a year's tution at at Seton Hall. That's who I am, and you're nothing."

Facing 33 years in the federal joint, where his backside will be thumpin' like a bass tube at Bar None, Scamarrano will no doubt sing like Pavorotti any day now and start naming names. By the time he's through, the few Hudson County boiler rooms that would actually hire a Seton Hall grad will be raided by the Feds and the partners hauled away in cuffs. The only way any Seton Hall grad can earn a living wage (aside from panhandling on the PATH train) is by ass-kissing the lowlife gweedo sleaze that operate the northern NJ boiler room "firms" in Soprano-esque fashion. With these places soon to be padlocked by the Feds, the average Seton Hall grad will face grim prospects indeed. Many are already speculating that this scandal will doom the school to the Elba of US News's third tier, from which it is unlikely to ever recover. Legal experts are advising current students to drop out immediately before facing the embarassment of seeing the school fall 20 or more points in the 2010 rankings.

Not that this type of behavior is anything new to the Seton Hall administration. A previous scandal involved Seton Hall not only admitting, but offering a full scholarship to a woman previously involved in securities fraud while a stockbroker. Despite a lifetime bar from stock trading and having her Series 7 license permanently revoked by the SEC, Seton Hall nevertheless granted her a generous scholarship and even sent administrators to testify before the New Jersey and New York bars after both committees refused to admit the woman on character & fitness grounds. This incident caused many students to feel cheated and disgusted with Seton Hall and the hypocritical farce of "ethics & honor codes" to ring hollow. If the school's administration had any "honor" they would immediately issue full refunds to the current students and then close down the school. No legitimate legal employers have any interest in speaking with, interviewing, or hiring Seton Hall graduates. In a glutted legal market where even Ivy League law students are struggling to find work, one wonders why any sane person would attend a declining diploma mill in a crime-infested, depressing area like Newark.

In September 2007, The Wall Street Journal published an article regarding the waning job market for U.S. lawyers, and questioning the integrity of law schools’ employment data and marketing campaigns, mentioning Seton Hall Law School, among others. [24]

Many feel that the term “career services” is a misnomer when applied to Seton Hall, since few graduates will experience anything one could remotely call a “career.” In fact, some have proposed holding graduation in the parking lot of Barasso, a large, low-paying document review project in nearby Westfield, NJ. Since 80% or more Seton Hall grads will end up in dead-end document review, without health benefits, a living wage, or any chance for advancement, it seems appropriate to many that the graduation ceremony reflect that harsh, cruel reality.

Attempts by the alumni association to form a sister organization, The International Brotherhood of Coders and Temporary Attorneys, has met with strong resistance by both the Valvoline Dean and douchebags like David King. At present, most alumna who do not become contract attorneys end up taking more lucrative positions as fry cooks, panhandlers on the 7 line, or "Welfare Queens".

According to the 2008 edition of the ABA-LSAC Official Guide to ABA-Approved Law Schools, employed graduates accepted various positions that are detailed below in percentage terms. 38.9% Document-Review Specialists and other contract positions, 28.6% Paralegal, 18.6% Accounting, 11.1% "Entertainment" industry, 5.7% Government assistance, 1.8% Janitorial services and the custodial arts, 0.3% Academia [1]

Contents [hide]

1 History

2 Program

3 Students

4 Student Organizations

5 Notable alumni

6 References

7 External links

History

Seton Hall University School of Law was founded in 1951 in an effort to create a pool of labor for the emerging field of document review. Seton Hall was fully accredited by the American Bar Association in that same year. The school is part of Seton Hall University. In September 2007, The Wall Street Journal published an article regarding the waning job market for U.S. lawyers, and questioning the integrity of law schools’ employment data and marketing campaigns, mentioning Seton Hall Law School, among others. [2]

Program

The J.D. degree program of 85 credits can be pursued as a day student in three years or as a part-time day or evening student in 4 years.

According to the 2008 edition of the ABA-LSAC Official Guide to ABA-Approved Law Schools, 359 students matriculated to the law school last year. 53% of the first year class entered on a full-time basis. 47% of the first year class entered on a part-time basis.[3]

The school offers several joint degree programs with other faculties of the University. For example, there is a combined J.D./M.A. (or MADIR) program with the University's Whitehead School of Diplomacy. Through the school's alliance with UNA-USA, law students have a unique access to the United Nations. Students also have the opportunity to intern/extern with various U.N. organizations, NGOs, foreign missions and international law firms. Seton Hall Law also offers study abroad opportunities in Egypt, Ireland, Italy and Tanzania.

Students

Many students commute from around the New York metropolitan area; however, the Union Building, Renaissance Towers, and 1180 all house Seton Hall Law students. The school's location is very convenient for commuters, as it is 1.5 blocks from Penn Station Newark and a 20 minute ride to Manhattan.

Student Organizations

Throughout the year, the SBA and other student organizations sponsor a variety of practical, social and educational events.

To receive approval as a student organization, the organization must have a written Constitution and Bylaws which ensure full compliance with the university's non-discrimination policy and to ensure procedures, such as election of officers, are done in accordance with the SBA Constitution and Bylaws (for example, that officers are democratically elected by the members).

Membership in all approved student organizations is available to all students without regard to gender, race, nationality, ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation. Some organizations (example: Phi Alpha Delta, the law fraternity) have national affiliations which require payment of dues, but payment of dues to the national organization is not required to be a member of the student organization.

The SBA provides much of the funding for student organizations, though many of the more active groups engage in separate fundraising to finance their functions and activities. If you have any questions about one of the approved student organizations, contact the group's president. If there is a hyperlink below, it will take you to the organization's Web site. If the organization has a national Web site, it is also indicated with a link.

Finally, the American Bar Association offers student membership to all students at Seton Hall University School of Law because it is an ABA-accredited law school. Please visit the ABA Website to obtain information on student membership in the ABA and its various sections, divisions and departments.

Organization Websites

Alternative Dispute Resolution

American Constitution Society (ACS)

American Trial Lawyers Association

Arts Law Society

Asian-Pacific American Law Students Association (APALSA)

Black Law Students' Association (BLSA)

Christian Legal Fellowship

Corporate Law Society

Criminal Law Society

Law Society

Entertainment & Sports Law Society

Environmental Law Society

Family Law Society

Federalist Society

Haiti Rule of Law

Health Law Forum

Intellectual Property Law Association (IPLA)

International Law Society (ILS)

Interscholastic Moot Court Board

Irish American Law Students Association (IALSA)

J. Reuben Clark Society

Jewish Law Students Association (JLS)

Lambda Law Forum

Latin American Law Students Association (LALSA)

Litigation Society

Master of Science in Jurisprudence Organization

Muslim Students Association (MSA)

Phi Alpha Delta (PAD)

Public Interest Network (PIN)

Real Estate Law Society

Rodino Society

Seton Hall Law Democrats

Seton Hall Law Republicans

St. Thomas More Society

Student Animal Legal Defense Fund (SALDF)

Student Bar Association

Student Outreach Society (SOS)

Tax Law Society

Women's Law Forum (WLF)

Notable alumni

Main article: :Category:Seton Hall University School of Law alumni

See also: List of Seton Hall University alumni

References

^ "2008 ABA-LSAC Guide". ABA-LSAC. 2008. http://officialguide.lsac.org//SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA2811.pdf. Retrieved 2007-08-27.

^ Wall Street Journal Job market wanes

^ http://officialguide.lsac.org//SearchResults/SchoolPage_PDFs/ABA_LawSchoolData/ABA2811.pdf ABA Official Guide Retrieved on 07-28-2007

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Facing 33 years in the federal joint, where his backside will be thumpin' like a bass tube at Bar None, Scamarrano will no doubt sing like Pavorotti any day now and start naming names. By the time he's through, the few Hudson County boiler rooms that would actually hire a Seton Hall grad will be raided by the Feds and the partners hauled away in cuffs. The only way any Seton Hall grad can earn a living wage (aside from panhandling on the PATH train) is by ass-kissing the lowlife gweedo sleaze that operate the northern NJ boiler room "firms" in Soprano-esque fashion. With these places soon to be padlocked by the Feds, the average Seton Hall grad will face grim prospects indeed. Many are already speculating that this scandal will doom the school to the Elba of US News's third tier, from which it is unlikely to ever recover. Legal experts are advising current students to drop out immediately before facing the embarassment of seeing the school fall 20 or more points in the 2010 rankings."

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