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Alert: UG prestige can matter a lot
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:52 PM Author: irate patrolman - For the large number of people who will get only a bachelor's degree, UG prestige matters
- For people who get an MBA, UG prestige matters in the sense your WE will be better if you go to a strong UG or a strong UG program
- I would imagine UG prestige matters somewhat when it comes to PhD programs, I am not sure though
- EDIT - UG prestige may matter in the elusive "real world prestige" or "lay prestige" category. This is hotly debated
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:52 PM Author: Brilliant indian lodge lettuce also on internet message boards (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624817) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:53 PM Author: Umber Goyim Toaster titcr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624823) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:54 PM Author: sapphire faggot firefighter avg lsat score at y is 164, nuff said (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624832) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:55 PM Author: irate patrolman How is that relevant to any of my points? We aren't talking about law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624838) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:10 PM Author: sapphire faggot firefighter yale ug's like you are not hot shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624951) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:15 PM Author: irate patrolman Small subset, dood. The most impressive Yale UGs aren't excel monkeys like myself or law tools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624991) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:05 PM Author: ultramarine crusty university If you bust ass, you can get a Rhodes from anywhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624910) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:08 PM Author: irate patrolman True. However, it is easier to get a lot of jobs out of college from say, UVA than it is VT or a comparable school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624928) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:10 PM Author: ultramarine crusty university Also true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624949) |
Date: August 29th, 2009 6:52 PM Author: pontificating wonderful kitty cat these are like 3 different buckets of prestige (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624818) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:53 PM Author: Ruddy love of her life striped hyena wtf dood, dont post shit like this. its unbecoming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624821) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:53 PM Author: irate patrolman I must speak truth to power
EDIT - The overall point I'm trying to make is that xoxo says "UG prestige doesn't matter." That's frankly not the case for a large subsets of applicants.
EDIT - Also, I am not saying Ivy or bust. Most of the UVA kids I know have a ton of pride in the school, and I would say they benefit from the UG prestige of UVA. Don't misunderstand what I am saying here. |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:05 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal rusted public bath then post on the college board where this post belongs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624908) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:07 PM Author: irate patrolman This functions as the general xoxo board, given the college board is dead. You know that, dood. All topics (college, law, random stuff) are in play here.
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:12 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal rusted public bath I was just yanking your chain. yeah, you are absolutely right. I worked at an ad agency here in Chicago once upon a time and would have interview weekends and we only recruited a handful of schools. harvard, brown, nu, uiuc. carleton and michigan are the ones i remember. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624959) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:14 PM Author: self-centered exhilarant affirmative action over-the-top UIUC trolling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624981) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:17 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal rusted public bath uiuc was the biggest feeder and has one of the few advertising majors in the country. the agency i worked for funded much of the program at uiuc. it was also chicago.
now fuck off.
edit: and you had to have a 3.5 minimum gpa and apply to the college of communications as a junior to get into the program. |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:44 PM Author: Stimulating Lay Rigor How are you surprised that a Chicago ad agency would recruit at the state's flagship public school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625209) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:47 PM Author: Mewling pervert selfie ZOMG!!!!!!111111111 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625238) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:54 PM Author: crystalline ticket booth tank okay...? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624831) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:55 PM Author: appetizing hell It's not as important as being 6'2" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624835) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:55 PM Author: irate patrolman Cr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624840) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:59 PM Author: idiotic primrose generalized bond cool story hansel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624875) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:10 PM Author: copper twinkling uncleanness filthpig everyone knows this. you think all the TTT UG -> T14 LS folks on this board would always be whining shrilly about how "it doesn't matter" if they weren't still insecure about getting dinged everywhere good when they were 17? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624942) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:11 PM Author: irate patrolman Look, for law school and law careers, what is said here has a lot of truth to it. But for a lot of types of students, it's simply not the case. Therefore, if/when we get kids looking for college advice on this board, we should make them aware. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624956) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:17 PM Author: copper twinkling uncleanness filthpig "for law school and law careers, what is said here has a lot of truth to it"
Even for that, not really. For me, it's been a noticeable help to have gone to a good UG in all kinds of areas related to law and life in general. If I hadn't gone to HUG, never would have gotten the post-UG WE I did, almost certainly wouldn't have gotten into HLS, probably wouldn't have been able to work where I did after 1L, wouldn't have connections to people from UG that are becoming even more useful as all of our careers advance, etc. You can say it doesn't matter, but the truth is, you don't know where you'd be with it if you didn't have it, or without it, if you did. |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:19 PM Author: irate patrolman I've made similar points before, but I'm less qualified to make them then you are (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625014) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:24 PM Author: copper twinkling uncleanness filthpig I can't say it's the right thing for all people in all situations. I can say that for me and most of the people I know who had the option, going to HYPS was the right call. Most people who go to college have no idea what they're going to do, and even the ones who are sure they want law are likely to change their minds. Even for the ones who end up in law, there are benefits. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625050) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:21 PM Author: Canary infuriating deer antler To be fair,
"if/when we get kids looking for college advice on this board..."
...we should promptly send them to the college board.
HTH. |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:12 PM Author: sapphire faggot firefighter too bad in law it doesn't matter. i love the yale ug -> brooklyn law school people. LOL @ their lives (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624961) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:12 PM Author: ultramarine crusty university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624964) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:14 PM Author: irate patrolman For your law career, obviously LR at a T6 is more impactful. However, for others' careers and career options, UG can be very impactful.
Also, top UGs tend to cost less with financial aid, and top public UGs tend to give merit aid (or are cheap if you are in state). |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:20 PM Author: ultramarine crusty university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625018) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:21 PM Author: irate patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625029) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:48 PM Author: Mewling pervert selfie LOL at "impactful" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625245) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:10 PM Author: supple dark preventive strike area UG prestige has mattered a lot in the past, but does that mean this trend will continue? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624953) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:12 PM Author: irate patrolman For certain career paths, it seems so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624962) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:17 PM Author: sapphire faggot firefighter you're in nyc right? in douchey nyc what you say holds true, because so many people are in consulting or i-banking. in are country it doesn't matter as much (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625002) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:20 PM Author: irate patrolman It matters for anyone trying to get a job post college. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625024) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:18 PM Author: lime haunting parlour Outside of law I agree 100%. As a TTT grad myself, I have to overcome the stereotypes associated with my school everytime I have an interview, not to mention the fact that I get prescreened out from a lot of jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625009) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:20 PM Author: Canary infuriating deer antler To be fair,
Dear Antmatic,
You and I both take a lot of shit on this board (albeit usually from very different contingents), but I feel as though there is generally a sort of mutual respect between us. We actually agree on a lot of issues even though our fundamental political ideologies are very different, and I think you add something to the board (I assume that you would say the same about me.) We are, in a word, FRIENDS.
With that said, as a FRIEND I feel compelled to tell you that regardless of the merits of your argument here, I think an unsolicited 'reminder' from a black male Yalie/rabid pro-AA troll that "Undergraduate pedigree is still extremely important" inarguably makes you look like a smug, self-serving/satisfied douchetastic fucking faggot. Just sayin'.
Sincerely,
TBF |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:22 PM Author: idiotic primrose generalized bond agreed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625035) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:24 PM Author: irate patrolman "With that said, as a FRIEND I feel compelled to tell you that I think an unsolicited 'reminder' from a black male Yalie/rabid pro-AA troll that "Undergraduate pedigree is still extremely important" makes you look like a patently self-serving douchetastic fucktard faggot. Just sayin'."
Hah, I am aware of this. The fact that the likes of BEEF SUPREME pushed me back a bit made me realize this seems to make people think less of me.
- Not unsolicited, this came up in the "Cornell" thread. My overall point is that UG matters for a whole hell of a lot of people, not just HYP students. Whether they are Cornell students, Boston College, UVA, Michigan, Ole Miss, whatever, people take pride in their UG and their UG can be very beneficial to them. |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:30 PM Author: violent swashbuckling rigpig 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625091) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:26 PM Author: Apoplectic racy hall re: top phd programs, the margin of error for admission is far smaller at TTT ugs. As a result, students from lousy undergrads generally have terrible personalities because they strived away their college years being research bitches and making sure they maintained their 4.0 at arizona state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625058) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:30 PM Author: ultramarine crusty university Fair. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625092) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:30 PM Author: Pearly Crackhouse Yale UG is not as prestigious as Harvard UG. Sorry dood. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625086) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:32 PM Author: irate patrolman Of course. HUG > YUG, particularly in overall prestige and quality of student body. Most YUG kids would admit that. We like to say YUG is a more fun school and a better undergrad experience (which may or may not be true). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625100) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:34 PM Author: idiotic primrose generalized bond going to school in boston>>>>>>>>>>>>>>new haven for UG experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625115) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:35 PM Author: ultramarine crusty university oh thank god. i was so worried that going to northeastern wouldn't be as good as yale. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625127) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:37 PM Author: idiotic primrose generalized bond some northeastern and emerson girls are cute. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625144) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:39 PM Author: ultramarine crusty university i'll take your word for it, i was just providing requisite snark (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625168) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:36 PM Author: irate patrolman Actually New Haven is kind of cool in a lot of ways. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625133) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:35 PM Author: Shaky Shrine eh, it's tough to think of many prestigious careers that don't require graduate work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625128) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:38 PM Author: Hyperventilating tanning salon crotch ibanking? accounting? consulting? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625156) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:40 PM Author: Shaky Shrine I'm pretty sure a TTT accountant can do quite well and don't most big 4 partners have advanced accounting degrees?
outside of ibanking and consulting I can't think of much else |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:41 PM Author: vibrant library death wish IDK. I think it is like most investments in that you get exactly what you put in it, a realistic return, and not a cent more. And to get in a good UG, you had to put in four years of hard work in high-school, and my estimate is that you'll get about four years of prestige-boost out of it.
On the flip side, that means that if you're smart and have a good work ethic, you're never more than four years from the top.
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:54 PM Author: ultramarine crusty university Unless it's all cumulative. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625289) |