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Alert: UG prestige can matter a lot
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:52 PM Author: ivory parlor - For the large number of people who will get only a bachelor's degree, UG prestige matters
- For people who get an MBA, UG prestige matters in the sense your WE will be better if you go to a strong UG or a strong UG program
- I would imagine UG prestige matters somewhat when it comes to PhD programs, I am not sure though
- EDIT - UG prestige may matter in the elusive "real world prestige" or "lay prestige" category. This is hotly debated
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:52 PM Author: glittery philosopher-king also on internet message boards (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624817) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:53 PM Author: greedy voyeur titcr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624823) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:54 PM Author: diverse hall avg lsat score at y is 164, nuff said (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624832) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:55 PM Author: ivory parlor How is that relevant to any of my points? We aren't talking about law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624838) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:10 PM Author: diverse hall yale ug's like you are not hot shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624951) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:15 PM Author: ivory parlor Small subset, dood. The most impressive Yale UGs aren't excel monkeys like myself or law tools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624991) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:05 PM Author: Red dilemma If you bust ass, you can get a Rhodes from anywhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624910) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:08 PM Author: ivory parlor True. However, it is easier to get a lot of jobs out of college from say, UVA than it is VT or a comparable school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624928) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:10 PM Author: Red dilemma Also true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624949) |
Date: August 29th, 2009 6:52 PM Author: fear-inspiring library party of the first part these are like 3 different buckets of prestige (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624818) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:53 PM Author: chestnut mad-dog skullcap wtf dood, dont post shit like this. its unbecoming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624821) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:53 PM Author: ivory parlor I must speak truth to power
EDIT - The overall point I'm trying to make is that xoxo says "UG prestige doesn't matter." That's frankly not the case for a large subsets of applicants.
EDIT - Also, I am not saying Ivy or bust. Most of the UVA kids I know have a ton of pride in the school, and I would say they benefit from the UG prestige of UVA. Don't misunderstand what I am saying here. |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:05 PM Author: Bipolar trailer park then post on the college board where this post belongs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624908) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:07 PM Author: ivory parlor This functions as the general xoxo board, given the college board is dead. You know that, dood. All topics (college, law, random stuff) are in play here.
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:12 PM Author: Bipolar trailer park I was just yanking your chain. yeah, you are absolutely right. I worked at an ad agency here in Chicago once upon a time and would have interview weekends and we only recruited a handful of schools. harvard, brown, nu, uiuc. carleton and michigan are the ones i remember. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624959) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:14 PM Author: slimy national over-the-top UIUC trolling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624981) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:17 PM Author: Bipolar trailer park uiuc was the biggest feeder and has one of the few advertising majors in the country. the agency i worked for funded much of the program at uiuc. it was also chicago.
now fuck off.
edit: and you had to have a 3.5 minimum gpa and apply to the college of communications as a junior to get into the program. |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:44 PM Author: Massive stubborn meetinghouse How are you surprised that a Chicago ad agency would recruit at the state's flagship public school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625209) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:47 PM Author: Fuchsia submissive nowag ZOMG!!!!!!111111111 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625238) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:54 PM Author: bisexual alpha brunch okay...? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624831) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:55 PM Author: Magenta Kitchen Organic Girlfriend It's not as important as being 6'2" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624835) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:55 PM Author: ivory parlor Cr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624840) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 6:59 PM Author: Green Theater Stage Internal Respiration cool story hansel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624875) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:10 PM Author: Drab Ape everyone knows this. you think all the TTT UG -> T14 LS folks on this board would always be whining shrilly about how "it doesn't matter" if they weren't still insecure about getting dinged everywhere good when they were 17? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624942) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:11 PM Author: ivory parlor Look, for law school and law careers, what is said here has a lot of truth to it. But for a lot of types of students, it's simply not the case. Therefore, if/when we get kids looking for college advice on this board, we should make them aware. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624956) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:17 PM Author: Drab Ape "for law school and law careers, what is said here has a lot of truth to it"
Even for that, not really. For me, it's been a noticeable help to have gone to a good UG in all kinds of areas related to law and life in general. If I hadn't gone to HUG, never would have gotten the post-UG WE I did, almost certainly wouldn't have gotten into HLS, probably wouldn't have been able to work where I did after 1L, wouldn't have connections to people from UG that are becoming even more useful as all of our careers advance, etc. You can say it doesn't matter, but the truth is, you don't know where you'd be with it if you didn't have it, or without it, if you did. |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:19 PM Author: ivory parlor I've made similar points before, but I'm less qualified to make them then you are (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625014) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:24 PM Author: Drab Ape I can't say it's the right thing for all people in all situations. I can say that for me and most of the people I know who had the option, going to HYPS was the right call. Most people who go to college have no idea what they're going to do, and even the ones who are sure they want law are likely to change their minds. Even for the ones who end up in law, there are benefits. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625050) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:21 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Hilarious Property Digit Ratio To be fair,
"if/when we get kids looking for college advice on this board..."
...we should promptly send them to the college board.
HTH. |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:12 PM Author: diverse hall too bad in law it doesn't matter. i love the yale ug -> brooklyn law school people. LOL @ their lives (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624961) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:12 PM Author: Red dilemma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624964) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:14 PM Author: ivory parlor For your law career, obviously LR at a T6 is more impactful. However, for others' careers and career options, UG can be very impactful.
Also, top UGs tend to cost less with financial aid, and top public UGs tend to give merit aid (or are cheap if you are in state). |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:20 PM Author: Red dilemma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625018) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:21 PM Author: ivory parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625029) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:48 PM Author: Fuchsia submissive nowag LOL at "impactful" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625245) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:10 PM Author: Know-it-all Amethyst Site Nibblets UG prestige has mattered a lot in the past, but does that mean this trend will continue? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624953) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:12 PM Author: ivory parlor For certain career paths, it seems so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12624962) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:17 PM Author: diverse hall you're in nyc right? in douchey nyc what you say holds true, because so many people are in consulting or i-banking. in are country it doesn't matter as much (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625002) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:20 PM Author: ivory parlor It matters for anyone trying to get a job post college. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625024) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:18 PM Author: gaped locale azn Outside of law I agree 100%. As a TTT grad myself, I have to overcome the stereotypes associated with my school everytime I have an interview, not to mention the fact that I get prescreened out from a lot of jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625009) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:20 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Hilarious Property Digit Ratio To be fair,
Dear Antmatic,
You and I both take a lot of shit on this board (albeit usually from very different contingents), but I feel as though there is generally a sort of mutual respect between us. We actually agree on a lot of issues even though our fundamental political ideologies are very different, and I think you add something to the board (I assume that you would say the same about me.) We are, in a word, FRIENDS.
With that said, as a FRIEND I feel compelled to tell you that regardless of the merits of your argument here, I think an unsolicited 'reminder' from a black male Yalie/rabid pro-AA troll that "Undergraduate pedigree is still extremely important" inarguably makes you look like a smug, self-serving/satisfied douchetastic fucking faggot. Just sayin'.
Sincerely,
TBF |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:22 PM Author: Green Theater Stage Internal Respiration agreed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625035) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:24 PM Author: ivory parlor "With that said, as a FRIEND I feel compelled to tell you that I think an unsolicited 'reminder' from a black male Yalie/rabid pro-AA troll that "Undergraduate pedigree is still extremely important" makes you look like a patently self-serving douchetastic fucktard faggot. Just sayin'."
Hah, I am aware of this. The fact that the likes of BEEF SUPREME pushed me back a bit made me realize this seems to make people think less of me.
- Not unsolicited, this came up in the "Cornell" thread. My overall point is that UG matters for a whole hell of a lot of people, not just HYP students. Whether they are Cornell students, Boston College, UVA, Michigan, Ole Miss, whatever, people take pride in their UG and their UG can be very beneficial to them. |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:30 PM Author: bossy sweet tailpipe parlour 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625091) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:26 PM Author: tan sound barrier re: top phd programs, the margin of error for admission is far smaller at TTT ugs. As a result, students from lousy undergrads generally have terrible personalities because they strived away their college years being research bitches and making sure they maintained their 4.0 at arizona state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625058) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:30 PM Author: Red dilemma Fair. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625092) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:30 PM Author: black tanning salon national security agency Yale UG is not as prestigious as Harvard UG. Sorry dood. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625086) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:32 PM Author: ivory parlor Of course. HUG > YUG, particularly in overall prestige and quality of student body. Most YUG kids would admit that. We like to say YUG is a more fun school and a better undergrad experience (which may or may not be true). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625100) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:34 PM Author: Green Theater Stage Internal Respiration going to school in boston>>>>>>>>>>>>>>new haven for UG experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625115) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:35 PM Author: Red dilemma oh thank god. i was so worried that going to northeastern wouldn't be as good as yale. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625127) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:37 PM Author: Green Theater Stage Internal Respiration some northeastern and emerson girls are cute. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625144) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:39 PM Author: Red dilemma i'll take your word for it, i was just providing requisite snark (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625168) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:36 PM Author: ivory parlor Actually New Haven is kind of cool in a lot of ways. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625133) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:35 PM Author: saffron stirring menage eh, it's tough to think of many prestigious careers that don't require graduate work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625128) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:38 PM Author: cobalt cuck yarmulke ibanking? accounting? consulting? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625156) |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:40 PM Author: saffron stirring menage I'm pretty sure a TTT accountant can do quite well and don't most big 4 partners have advanced accounting degrees?
outside of ibanking and consulting I can't think of much else |
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:41 PM Author: Swashbuckling institution IDK. I think it is like most investments in that you get exactly what you put in it, a realistic return, and not a cent more. And to get in a good UG, you had to put in four years of hard work in high-school, and my estimate is that you'll get about four years of prestige-boost out of it.
On the flip side, that means that if you're smart and have a good work ethic, you're never more than four years from the top.
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Date: August 29th, 2009 7:54 PM Author: Red dilemma Unless it's all cumulative. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1074321&forum_id=2#12625289) |