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Date: October 14th, 2009 6:58 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Performance review pwned and laid off recently. IP lit. Hated the partners and working on IP lit. Not saying the firm name, and I don't even know the Vault range. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988452) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 6:58 PM Author: Judgmental multi-colored affirmative action THIS IS FLAME (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988453) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:00 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988468) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:00 PM Author: cream point region in the country? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988466) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:01 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Flyover territory (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988473) |
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Date: December 17th, 2009 3:08 PM Author: Federal confused hall were you Mark Flageled? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13579488) |
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Date: December 17th, 2009 3:26 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space I don't know what that is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13579572) |
Date: October 14th, 2009 6:58 PM Author: Rose stag film Sorry, dood. Plans? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988455) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:02 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space I'm kind of despairing about ever finding an occupation I can tolerate that pays decently. No plans yet. Pretty sure there's no way I'll get a job as a lawyer again, but I don't think I want one anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988479) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:29 PM Author: arousing keepsake machete queen of the night I am in the exact same boat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988722) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:31 PM Author: grizzly big address yeah me too. sorry serf dood. those partners sound like dildos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988751) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:32 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Doesn't it seem like the whole career thing was so much more promising back when you were in high school? I never knew it would be so bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988756) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:33 PM Author: arousing keepsake machete queen of the night yeah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988769) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:08 PM Author: Dark swashbuckling location what happened at the review? did they give you time to find a job after it or was it done right there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988527) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:18 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Good questions. A partner called me in to talk, and when I went to his office he had another more senior partner on the phone. The junior partner explained what was going on, and then the senior dude started talking. Basically he said that my performance sucked and then listed various things I supposedly did wrong. For example, there were some documents that we got after the close of discovery which we didn't actually need to prove our case but which we didn't get into a supplemental expert report, and this pissed a partner off. And there was a time I was unavailable for a weekend. Etc.
Anyway, once I got the hint I told the partner a piece of my mind regarding my perceptions of his case, which he lost and which I knew all along was a lost cause. Then the junior partner said that some "employment action" was coming and I was asked what I wanted. I then requested to be laid off.
I have some time to find another job. |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:21 PM Author: Rose stag film DESCRIBE your weekend unavailability. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988639) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:22 PM Author: startled white dog poop kitchen http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1026507&mc=213&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988644) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:22 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space There's a whole different thread about that one, but I think it was all ridiculous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988652) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:27 PM Author: Rose stag film BIGLAW is all miserable douches who want to make everyone else miserable too for usually no reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988704) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:29 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Yep. The senior partner is basically a horrible person. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988725) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:25 PM Author: Dark swashbuckling location you requested to be laid off? as opposed to what? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988675) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:25 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Straight-up fired? I didn't ask what my options were, but I knew I didn't have many. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988684) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:26 PM Author: Dark swashbuckling location that's weird. i didn't know companies gave you such options (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988698) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:28 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Yeah, I'm a little puzzled by that part. Were they intending to just give me a warning and let me languish there for a bit? I don't know, but I am 100% sure they wouldn't have kept me long. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988711) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:31 PM Author: arousing keepsake machete queen of the night How much severance? Can you apply for unemployment? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988750) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:32 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space 2 months, and I am intending to apply. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988761) |
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Date: April 8th, 2010 9:22 PM Author: Flushed vibrant library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#14649295) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:10 PM Author: jade reading party doctorate So are you saying you deserved your fate? Why did you hate IP lit, in particular? Or do you just hate lawyering? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988546) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:20 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Deserved? I don't know about that. I think I'm actually pretty valuable, but that this job was not right at all for me.
I hate lit, period. |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:11 PM Author: cream point what the deal with ip? is it really as dead as people are saying? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988553) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:21 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space IP lit has had a tremendous dropoff in activity this year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988629) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:32 PM Author: cream point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988758) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:33 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space No clue about them specifically, but IP lit in general is not a good place to be right now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988767) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:51 PM Author: Misanthropic Church Building To be fair,
it is unlikely you can give a fair assessment of this as a self-admitted biglawserf in flyover country. |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:52 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space I know that my firm had a huge dropoff, and I've heard similar things about other places. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13003572) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:25 PM Author: Balding dilemma mad cow disease Did you get it in writing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988683) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:27 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space They were going to give me an official written review, but since I'm getting laid off they opted not to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988706) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:28 PM Author: aquamarine thriller parlour mother severance? plans? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988716) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:29 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space 2 months, no plans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988730) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 7:34 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space I have to go now, but I'll be back later to check on this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12988780) |
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Date: October 15th, 2009 1:00 AM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Anything further? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12991947) |
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Date: October 15th, 2009 1:38 AM Author: grizzly big address Any clue what you'd want to pursue outside of law? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#12992158) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 2:39 AM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Not particularly right now. I'm going to enjoy my freedom for a bit first. After that, who knows...Best Buy? Teaching? Pimping? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13001314) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 2:36 AM Author: demanding insanely creepy space I'm looking forward to cashing my severance check. Too bad it's not Latham's 6 months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13001296) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 2:39 AM Author: galvanic bipolar scourge upon the earth How is IP litigation anyway? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13001321) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 2:47 AM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Probably a lot like all kinds of other Federal lit. hmm, what the fuck did I do at this job:
doc review/supervise doc review for production/privilege (all completely worthless docs, by the way)
write responses to discovery requests
on a really good day, study some prior art and compare with the patent
review docs produced by opponent
claim charts, claim charts, claim charts...edit these endlessly
write expert report shit, occasionally meet with expert to get his seal of approval on shit
write bullshit motions or responses (always trivial issues)
I'm sure there's some other crap too. Other people might like it, but I really didn't--it all just seemed so trivial and pointless to me considering these cases typically come down to the definition of one word. |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 2:40 AM Author: Pink exhilarant elastic band Is this prestigious?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Juridical_Science |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 2:43 AM Author: demanding insanely creepy space I've never met a person with one, so I have no clue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13001338) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 2:45 AM Author: Pink exhilarant elastic band Harvey L. Strelzin (New York U., 1906) Charles Hamilton Houston (Harvard, 1923) Lowell Turrentine (Harvard, 1929) Justice William Henry Hastie (Harvard, 1932) Justice Bernard Jefferson (Harvard, 1934) Pauli Murray (Yale, 1965) Judge Navanethem Pillay (Harvard).[42]
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Date: October 16th, 2009 2:51 AM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Nope, haven't met any of them, but they don't sound very prestigious to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13001365) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:59 PM Author: cerebral piazza internal respiration lulz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13003631) |
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Date: April 8th, 2010 9:24 PM Author: Flushed vibrant library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#14649310) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 2:46 AM Author: twisted dragon quadroon you're probably flame, but I'll play along
have you considered non-law jobs?
any marketable non-law skills? what was your ugrad major?
I am/was in a similar situation last spring when I was offer-revoked pwned |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 2:54 AM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Not sure why you think I'm flame, but anyway I haven't done serious delving into non-law jobs yet. I will. No marketable skills really, but I do have a masters degree from MIT in engineering. Despite how it sounds, it is not marketable 7 years later. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13001378) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 2:59 AM Author: twisted dragon quadroon you could probably teach at a TTT community college or something more - masters in engineering from MIT *sounds* impressive, and often that is enough to get one of these kinds of jobs (yes, I am serious). You could look for other work while doing this.
there is probably a way to make it marketable in the private sector again, although I will admit I don't know much about engineering and how much time you would have to spend volunteering/doing shit work to make this happen
why haven't you considered the non-law option more? |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 3:05 AM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Yeah, I've thought about teaching. I'll definitely be looking into it--it sounds like a reasonable thing to do.
I have no idea how I'd get back into my area of engineering. It's kind of a small niche, and nobody wants to hire anyone without recent experience in the area. Volunteering would probably not be an option, and there is essentially no shit work to do that could get me in.
I haven't actually deeply considered anything because I haven't been forced to and because I'm discouraged about careers in general. I've just been biding my time until the axe fell, and now I will relax first and then get serious about what to do next. |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 3:09 AM Author: twisted dragon quadroon well good luck to you, I know how it feels when you feel like you're on top of the world with a bright future ahead of you, and then it all comes crashing down
keep a positive attitude and don't let it affect your self-esteem - it's the economy, not you |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 3:16 AM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Honestly, as far as law is concerned, it is me (and/or the nature of BIGLAW, depending on how you look at it). I'm ok with that. That doesn't mean I can't find something else more suited to me though--it'll just take some time, luck, and searching. ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13001490) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 2:28 PM Author: Vigorous Halford National What field do you have your engineering degrees in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13003881) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 12:58 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space So I seem to be unemployed. Now what? *twiddles thumbs* *fidgets anxiously* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13003122) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:48 PM Author: harsh bright preventive strike incel it took them 4 months to lay you off after the june incident? that's pretty good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13003541) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:51 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space I was kind of hoping to coast for a month or two longer, but yeah, it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13003566) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:53 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space This is actually the first time in my life I haven't had anything in particular lined up for the future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13003586) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:56 PM Author: grizzly big address gl with the job search. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13003613) |
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Date: October 16th, 2009 1:59 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13003629) |
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Date: April 8th, 2010 10:56 PM Author: Flushed vibrant library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#14650154) |
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Date: April 9th, 2010 9:06 AM Author: clear messiness LOL "master man with logic" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#14653307) |
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Date: December 17th, 2009 3:02 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Still unemployed. Not interested in working at any more law firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13579454) |
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Date: December 17th, 2009 3:03 PM Author: high-end racy heaven newt out the firm now pansy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13579460) |
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Date: December 17th, 2009 3:05 PM Author: bistre foreskin seconded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13579476) |
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Date: December 17th, 2009 3:27 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Not yet, maybe later. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13579580) |
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Date: December 17th, 2009 3:04 PM Author: grizzly big address it's only 2 months. where are you looking? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13579466) |
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Date: December 17th, 2009 3:06 PM Author: arousing keepsake machete queen of the night same here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13579481) |
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Date: December 17th, 2009 3:08 PM Author: Vigorous Halford National what are your plans? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13579489) |
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Date: December 17th, 2009 3:29 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Collect unemployment, then move into parents' basement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13579590) |
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Date: December 17th, 2009 4:03 PM Author: Vigorous Halford National hey, that's my plan too. Just lost my job almost 2 weeks ago. YNY 4FREE TIME! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13579791) |
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Date: December 17th, 2009 4:52 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space Free time is fucking awesome. I'm enjoying myself for now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13580147) |
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Date: April 8th, 2010 10:57 PM Author: Flushed vibrant library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#14650165) |
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Date: December 17th, 2009 3:56 PM Author: Trip hunting ground how much was their allegedly performance reasons bullshit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13579742) |
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Date: December 17th, 2009 4:55 PM Author: demanding insanely creepy space I really wasn't a good match for that kind of job, but I actually think that what I did there was pretty good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#13580166) |
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Date: April 8th, 2010 9:18 PM Author: transparent stage police squad :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#14649261) |
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Date: April 9th, 2010 9:12 AM Author: crimson flickering friendly grandma trailer park I feel for you d00d. Not a lawyer, but I've been insulted by performance reviews before. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1110865&forum_id=2#14653319) |