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Miami prof sues Lat, Above the Law ATL for prostitution coverage
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 9:03 AM Author: adventurous cruise ship gay wizard Jones v. Minkin In September 2007, Prof. Jones was arrested and charged with solicitation of prostitution, after Miami police said that he offered $20 in exchange for sex to a woman who turned out to be an undercover cop. Of course, the story was irresistible to Above the Law, which delights in highlighting lawyers' most unlawyerly behavior. And so the blog ran numerous posts on Jones, dubbing him "The Nutty Professor" and posting the "incident report" on his arrest, on which it commented, "Note the tension between (1) Professor Jones’s pimpin’ ride, a Mercedes SL500, and (2) his alleged offer of a mere $20 to the 'undercover officer possing [sic] as a prostitute.'" It also ran a photocollage forwarded by a reader, which depicted Jones' face on a $20 bill and imagined him conversing with prostitutes. The charges were later dropped, and his record "expunged," reports the National Law Journal, and Jones remains on the Miami faculty.
But, of course, that is not the end of the story. Last week Jones, acting pro se, filed a complaint in federal court in Miami against ATL Founding Editor David Lat, as well as ATL's parent company and David Minkin, the parent's co-founder and publisher. The complaint includes three causes of action based on ATL's alleged insinuation that Jones had committed a crime, and on its posting of the photocollage: 1) false light; 2) invasion of privacy; 3) and copyright infringement, based on ATL's display of a photo of Jones.
http://copyrightsandcampaigns.blogspot.com/2009/11/law-professor-sues-above-law-blog-time.html
http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202435125916&slreturn=1&hbxlogin=1 |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 9:06 AM Author: thirsty french chef institution lol Jones is about to pwn them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162062) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 9:11 AM Author: diverse snowy headpube or not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162077) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:56 PM Author: thirsty french chef institution i take that back. if i was a judge reading that pleading, i'd be insulted. it was obviously not read over even once. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163497) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 9:13 AM Author: adventurous cruise ship gay wizard Did you read the blog post, listing the numerous ways in which Jones's pro se complaint could be dismissed? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162081) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 9:31 AM Author: Gay milk office Did Jones write the complaint on construction paper with a fat gold crayon?
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 9:31 AM Author: adventurous cruise ship gay wizard Pretty sure law profs don't have a fucking clue about what happens in a courtroom. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162127) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 10:39 AM Author: titillating metal background story stage For the most part this is true. Most law professors would be third rate litigators if they actually had to practice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162472) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 10:57 AM Author: Bateful Frisky Preventive Strike Except for the civ pro guys. They would fucking pwn you with shitty memos asserting bizarre motions that you eventually will fuck up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162603) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:46 AM Author: seedy corner giraffe This is true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162973) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:54 AM Author: titillating metal background story stage The problem is to be a litigator you need to know both the civ pro and the evidence rules and civ pro professors tend to have only half of that knowledge. Most havent practiced in decades and forgot all the evidence stuff. You lose it if you dont use it.
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:19 PM Author: Bateful Frisky Preventive Strike That's why I said shitty motions. You can have all the evidence you want but the fuckers will probably get it kicked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163208) |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 6:09 AM Author: wonderful theater stage you arent a lawyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13173471) |
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Date: October 8th, 2010 11:37 PM Author: Buff dashing yarmulke you're a highly moronic bitch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#16248315) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 9:26 AM Author: Kink-friendly lilac cuckold associate he writes articles such as "Darkness Made Visible: Law, Metaphor, and the Racial Self" and drives a 100k car. system is broke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162113) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 9:31 AM Author: irradiated spot That horribly written complaint should be more embarrassing to UM than the original incident with police. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162123) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 9:35 AM Author: Gay milk office Before I read it, I expected to respond to your post by saying that pleadings are the one place where you can write like shit and get away with it.
But after reading that festering shit pile, I agree that UM should be deeply embarrassed. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 9:40 AM Author: Bateful Frisky Preventive Strike It sounds like he didn't even read the ATL posts in question. Or he's hoping the judge and jury never reads the posts in question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162149) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 10:02 AM Author: irradiated spot I seriously hope ATL mocks the complaint if it has the balls to write about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162223) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 10:30 AM Author: Bateful Frisky Preventive Strike The ATL posts disclaimed all sorts of shit. The plaintiff dude is all like "my professional name by which I'm known to all is X and THEY USED MY PROFESSIONAL NAME!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162406) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:58 PM Author: Fragrant scourge upon the earth roast beef Lol.
the first paragraph break is midway down the third page. |
Date: November 3rd, 2009 9:39 AM Author: Bateful Frisky Preventive Strike lol @ "Barrack Obama." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162148) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 9:46 AM Author: Judgmental therapy chad This. A black law professor mispelling the (black) President's name in an opening paragraph of a Complaint filed in federal court... should be grounds for instant termination. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162167) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 9:50 AM Author: diverse snowy headpube ...of his life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162179) |
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Date: October 8th, 2010 11:57 PM Author: Buff dashing yarmulke lol, howd he get hired brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#16248420) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 10:41 AM Author: titillating metal background story stage He brings up the president? WTF? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162490) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 10:56 AM Author: Bateful Frisky Preventive Strike Apparently, David Lat is a gay man who hates blacks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162599) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:36 AM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit holy shit, did you read that complaint? by a *tenured* professor of law? learn how to use a comma, don't misplace your modifiers, clarify what the pronoun means. learn to spell the president's name in the first fucking paragraph.
what a god damn embarrassment. miami people, what do we know about this guy?
http://abovethelaw.com/2009/11/03/Jones%20v%20Minkin%20complaint%20Donald%20Jones%20David%20Minkin%20David%20Lat%20Dead%20Horse%20Media.pdf |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:38 AM Author: titillating metal background story stage Now imagine how TTT the student work product is out of a school ranked that low!
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:39 AM Author: Electric jet-lagged church Student product is probably fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162928) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:45 AM Author: titillating metal background story stage You must go to a TTT. I bet the average UM law student would miss half the mistakes in this pleading if not more. This says all that needs to be said about the state of our profession today.
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:05 PM Author: Electric jet-lagged church What a truly bizarre conclusion to draw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163096) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 5:47 PM Author: Boyish Tantric Water Buffalo Kitchen Agreed. This person is not a law student. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13166005) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:41 AM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit what would be the reaction of a true Ph.D in the humanities at Miami, who's fighting for tenure at a fraction of Professor Jones's salary? Jones publishes a raft of absolute crap "crit" papers that have added nothing to the intellectual world. I presume that he cannot teach a real subject worth a damn. Any students from Miami out there?
if that complaint were handed in by a summer associate, it would damage the law student's career. it might cost her a permanent offer. but i guess it's good enough for tenure at Miami. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:39 AM Author: Electric jet-lagged church This complaint is truly a disgrace, and I am not even talking about fucking typos. Apparently, he really believes that statements such as "Or Donald Marvin Jones." are sentences. This complaint is truly truly terrible. I hope he wrote it while completely intoxicated and then put it in a mailbox to the court for fling, forgetting that he had done so and leaving him no opportunity for sober reflection. It is the only excuse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162926) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:42 AM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit OK, I will go that far. If he steps forward and says that over a weekend of heavy drinking he wrote this just to vent his anger and can't even remember filing it, I would forgive him and buy him another drink. Otherwise, he needs to turn in his tenure and get a real job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162949) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:41 AM Author: sick nursing home sex offender dear god. how the hell did this guy become a law professor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162942) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:01 PM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit [cough cough] look at the title of his articles. draw your own conclusions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163072) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:36 PM Author: vigorous deep station coffee pot P.S.
The professor pro se litigant was Albert Einstein |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 12:24 PM Author: Laughsome market pocket flask do you enjoy making things die? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13174923) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 1:04 PM Author: Fragrant scourge upon the earth roast beef "learn to spell the president's name in the first fucking paragraph."
To be fair, the first paragraph is 2 pages longe. Bound to be a typo in there somehwere. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:44 AM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit Let's post our favorite sentences. I'll start:
"This name calling, stereotyping is still displayed." (Preliminary Statement) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:52 AM Author: titillating metal background story stage I dont know what's worse, S&C missing a death penalty appeal deadline or this. This profession is totally broken.
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 5:54 PM Author: Spruce trip lodge mad cow disease Just eliminate all schools below T20 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13166082) |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 4:12 AM Author: Buff dashing yarmulke the S&C lawyers went to elite schools. so did the prof (i believe). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13173303) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:52 AM Author: sick nursing home sex offender "Plaintiff demands a trial by jury on all issues that are friable." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163012) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:55 AM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit lulz. btw, friable is a real word. it means something like "crumbly." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163031) |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 4:09 AM Author: ocher newt Capable of being easily crumbled or reduced to powder; pulverizable, crumbly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13173289) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:55 AM Author: titillating metal background story stage and he wants 44 million dollars! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163032) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:03 PM Author: Offensive talented quadroon Incredible. Also, I checked the original ATL posts out of curiosity, and they never refer to the incident report as an "arrest record." |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:05 PM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit So, you're saying that Rule 11 is in play? I think it is, because one site showed that the tort was emphatically rejected by the Florida Supreme Court within the last year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163093) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 2:22 PM Author: titillating metal background story stage You can amend pleadings basically as of right once in virtually every jurisdiction. A mistake in a pleading like that typically doesnt get you sanctions unless you really piss off the judge or cost the other side a lot of money. Usually the lawyer gets a chance to amend if its early in the case and there has been no real prejudice. Opposing counsel should just call him on the phone and send a letter saying "ammend your pleading or I will file for sanctions" and cite that case. Courts dont like using Rule 11. And the court will question how a motion under Rule 11 is more cost effective than a one paragraph letter to the other side.
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 8:58 PM Author: Bearded university really tough guy Since you keep going on about the profession being broken and the ineptitude of students that are clearly beneath you, perhaps I should point out that not only "should" he send a letter, he is required to send a draft motion to counsel before filing. Therefore, your post is, at best, misleading, and at worst, a demonstration of your lack of knowledge about common rules of civil procedure.
FYI: A motion for sanctions must be made separately from any other motion and must describe the specific conduct that allegedly violates Rule 11(b). The motion must be served under Rule 5, but it must not be filed or be presented to the court if the challenged paper, claim, defense, contention, or denial is withdrawn or appropriately corrected within 21 days after service or within another time the court sets. If warranted, the court may award to the prevailing party the reasonable expenses, including attorney's fees, incurred for the motion. |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 1:41 PM Author: canary mad-dog skullcap orchestra pit Exactly why go through the trouble of creating a draft motion when a letter can remedy the defect? All he is saying is you probably dont need a motion and the goal is not to waste several thousand of your clients dollars when a one page letter will likely suffice. You give opposing counsel like 5 days to remedy the defect and you put together you motion if you dont hear back from them.
Being that aggressive early on in litigation can backfire on you in more ways than one.
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Date: December 9th, 2010 9:53 PM Author: ultramarine exciting becky trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#16769492) |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 4:11 AM Author: ocher newt Awesome. It's like it was bablefished from Japanese. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13173297) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:50 AM Author: Exhilarant box office sandwich wow. wtf. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13162994) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:51 AM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit After the number of the paragraph and the start of the sentence, he uses no space, one space, and two spaces, seemingly whimsically.
At other times, he goes straight from the number to the first word, or uses a mother fucking comma -- seriously, I am not making this up -- after the number.
But, I wonder, is my criticism just a white man's failure to credit crit-punctuation? |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:53 AM Author: Exhilarant box office sandwich u sir, r a racist. ur not taking into account the EXPERIENCE AND BACKGROUND of the writer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163015) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:55 AM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit i, will start using; crit-punc myself . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163035) |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 12:27 PM Author: Laughsome market pocket flask this complaint is just one big homage to e.e. cummings, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13174947) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:58 AM Author: awkward hunting ground sanctuary "Barrack Obama"
"Enjoining ATL to remove all pictures..."
"Plaintiff demands a trial by jury on all issues that are friable"
This complaint must have been written in extreme haste. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:04 PM Author: sick nursing home sex offender i can't imagine producing something so shitty even in my most extreme haste. the ONLY valid excuse would be rip-roaring drunkenness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163089) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:04 PM Author: Offensive talented quadroon Abovethelaw.blog (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163091) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 11:58 AM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit he accuses Lat of trying to "re-rout" traffic on teh internets. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163059) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:08 PM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit i particularly like creative use of commas. from paragraph 15:
"The articles ridiculing, name-calling and portraying Jones, as the embodiment of animalistic stereotypes served no legitimate purpose." |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:08 PM Author: 180 base volcanic crater Will someone not at work please email him a link to this thread?
djones@law.miami.edu
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 5:59 PM Author: diverse snowy headpube A+++++++++++ this needs to happen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13166119) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 6:34 PM Author: Lime police squad 2nd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13166504) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:11 PM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit paragraph 26: random capitalization of the word "Criminal." but do you think that he's just going with mid-1700s style on that? if so, i deeply apologize. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163144) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:12 PM Author: Spectacular Very Tactful Bawdyhouse Internal Respiration I read the first paragraph and I'm amazed. His argument is basically "you're a RACIST!"
how typically black. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:17 PM Author: Passionate cyan state queen of the night racist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163195) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:16 PM Author: 180 base volcanic crater "Venue is proper in this judicial district pursuant to 28 USC 13919(a)(2) . . . ."
Pretty sure this dood has never practiced law. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:17 PM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit is 13919 the zip code for miami? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163193) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 9:00 PM Author: Bearded university really tough guy It's the affirmative action statute set forth in O'Connor's opinion in the U of M case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13168298) |
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Date: October 9th, 2010 12:52 AM Author: stirring hominid indian lodge he graduated NYU (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#16248853) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:18 PM Author: Buff dashing yarmulke i've emailed him this thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163197) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:19 PM Author: Spectacular Very Tactful Bawdyhouse Internal Respiration tyty
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:20 PM Author: 180 base volcanic crater Really? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163215) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:23 PM Author: Buff dashing yarmulke yep. I mentioned that the document contains numerous grammatical and spelling errors, and that it's currently being discussed on this site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163232) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:30 PM Author: 180 base volcanic crater You should have also included a link to FRCP 15(a)(1). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163296) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:36 PM Author: silver rebellious stead let's not give him any bright ideas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163342) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:46 PM Author: 180 base volcanic crater I like him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163425) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:23 PM Author: underhanded heady crackhouse I wonder if the prof. will perform as admirably as Italian Stallion? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163235) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 6:00 PM Author: diverse snowy headpube lawsuit #2-->> your chariot awaits! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13166125) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:25 PM Author: indecent piazza fortuitous meteor holy fuck. "this combines defamation, false light, invasion of privacy, and racism."
since when is racism a tort COA? |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:54 PM Author: khaki arrogant jew bbw At any rate he waived it by not pleading that all of the elements of racism were met. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163483) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 6:00 PM Author: diverse snowy headpube since right motherfucking now, mang (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13166128) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:28 PM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit "Because we conclude that false light is largely duplicative of existing torts, but without the attendant protections of the First Amendment, we decline to recognize the tort...."
Jews for Jesus, Inc. v. Rapp, 997 So.2d 1098 (Fla. 2008) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:31 PM Author: silver rebellious stead awesome (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163306) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:37 PM Author: Passionate cyan state queen of the night if i were a law prof and wanted to sue people, i'd ask my fellow profs for help, precisely to avoid mistakes like overlooking stuff like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163357) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:39 PM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit i don't disagree, but are you suggesting that a tenured law professor should assume that he's incompetent to draft a basic complaint? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163362) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:43 PM Author: Passionate cyan state queen of the night nah, that he should have at least asked his colleagues to do a once-over to catch any huge problems. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163398) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:44 PM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit good point.
he could have handed a draft to a homeless woman living out of a garbage bin and the text would have been improved. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:52 PM Author: silver rebellious stead absolutely. At least if the complaint is in an area (or areas) of law where you lack even rudimentary knowledge.
Or, if you insist on drafting it yourself, running it by at least one person who has local expertise in that area. I bet that any plaintiff's attorney in the state who even remotely deals with tort law knew of the case and could tell the prof to at least drop that claim. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:39 PM Author: seedy corner giraffe 180
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:29 PM Author: 180 base volcanic crater Dear Prof. Jones,
I hope you read this thread. After reading your complaint, I can see how this would survive an MTD, but you need to ask yourself where this is likely to end up.
Have you thought about what's going to happen when Lat takes the depositions of the arresting officers? Do you think they're gonna confirm your story, or are they gonna say you offered a female cop $20 for a CBJ? All of those transcripts are public documents, and if Lat wants to screw you, he can freely post them to ATL for everyone's perusal. You should count yourself lucky that the cops didn't pursue charges, and just lay low for a few years until this blows over.
P.S. Were you really forced to take the exit to the red light district by someone cutting you off? I can't imagine how that would happen. Please DESCRIBE the circumstances.
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:33 PM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit and then had to take a side street after exiting . . . . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163321) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:41 PM Author: 180 base volcanic crater http://abovethelaw.com/d_marvin_jones/
It looks like the cops themselves described it as an "arrest." They say DMJ "engaged in conversation with undercover . . . during the conversation defendant attempted to offer $20.00 for sex from undercover officer possing as a prostitute."
See Professor, those depos are NOT going to be fun for you, whether your record was expunged or not. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:42 PM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit will he dismiss and say the whole point was simply to clear his name through the filing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163392) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:47 PM Author: 180 base volcanic crater That's the only thing to do at this point. And change his IRL moniker to D.M. Jones. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163437) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:48 PM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit and co-author a book with professor gates? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163450) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:55 PM Author: Excitant carnelian kitty actually, on the 836 it's very easy to hit the ghetto because the right lanes all turn to exit off ramps as you get near downtown and if you forget to exit the highway it dead ends in overtown. that's the one believable part, even though clearly he wanted some head. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163490) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 12:50 PM Author: Excitant carnelian kitty d marvin jones is a cool guy. not sure if he's a good professor but i've talked with him and he's pretty witty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163461) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 1:03 PM Author: aphrodisiac hissy fit does he teach core courses, or just crit race? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163547) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 1:01 PM Author: Fragrant scourge upon the earth roast beef FYI, Minkins is NOT the "the Registrar" of AboveTheLaw.com. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163526) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 1:03 PM Author: adventurous cruise ship gay wizard Volokh suggests Rule 11 sanctions are appropriate: http://volokh.com/2009/11/03/prof-donald-jones-lawsuit-against-above-the-law/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163552) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 2:38 PM Author: Gay milk office That shit never gets granted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13164227) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 1:17 PM Author: Turquoise narrow-minded meetinghouse dysfunction To be fair,
ITT: Everyone gets sued under the ancient common law action of "Trespass to a Professor's Ego" |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 1:37 PM Author: cocky business firm his complaint is shitty, but his articles place pretty highly in journals. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163792) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 1:43 PM Author: Offensive talented quadroon Seems like he's bought his own bullshit, because THAT'S RACIST is his only "friable" cause of action. And judging from this complaint, some poor lr staffer probably has to put in a shitload of work to get one of his articles into publishable shape. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 1:56 PM Author: cocky business firm "And judging from this complaint, some poor lr staffer probably has to put in a shitload of work to get one of his articles into publishable shape. "
so he's like any other professor. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 6:02 PM Author: Spruce trip lodge mad cow disease My profs in our law school (top 3) wrote, edited and submitted their own articles... for the most part (some entirely) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13166141) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 2:14 PM Author: Fragrant scourge upon the earth roast beef Sure *I* can't see the Emperor's clothes, but those tailors say they're magnificent! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13164072) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 2:30 PM Author: indecent piazza fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13164168) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 1:58 PM Author: cocky business firm the problem here is not that his complaint was terrible; almost all law professors would write bad complaints. the problem is the temerity to not realize that he's not an actual lawyer and can't do this type of work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163940) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 2:20 PM Author: sick nursing home sex offender the latter problem is only worse in the abstract. i would expect most prof's to write poor complaints, but the degree of suckitude in that complaint is unthinkable. this guy shouldn't even be a high school teacher for christ sake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13164099) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 2:30 PM Author: indecent piazza fortuitous meteor no, the problem is the guy apparently cannot type or proofread basic written english. also, the problem is he's a race-obsessed moron of the worst type. elie mystal levels of race-obsession with this dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13164166) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 6:41 PM Author: Lime police squad This guy makes mystal look like david duke. His writing makes mystal look like Dostoyevsky. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13166566) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 2:34 PM Author: silver rebellious stead Going beyond the legal issues, though, the complaint just butchers proper English. That's the real travesty here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13164185) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 1:59 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone glittery resort haunted graveyard Too bad Elie has to keep his mouth shut. It would be AWESOME to hear his idiotic opinion on his own casee. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13163950) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 3:50 PM Author: Coral marvelous gas station boistinker This is what I've been hoping for.
Lat should let Elie write on this topic and go out in a supernova. Elie trying to support this guy's legal arguments while simultaneously accusing the police of being racist would possibly lead to the best comments in ATL history.
It'd also let Lat finally pull the plug on Elie. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 3:17 PM Author: stimulating casino nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13164508) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 5:51 PM Author: Beady-eyed mustard potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13166040) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 5:58 PM Author: Buff dashing yarmulke i've seen some horribly drafted complaints in my lifetime. this one really isn't all that different. his briefs should be better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13166115) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 6:43 PM Author: Lime police squad It will be interesting to see if he can come up with a non-frivolous claim bc at this point he's got nothing resembling a legitimate COA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13166582) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2009 9:02 PM Author: Bearded university really tough guy I've seen much worse, but they are usually only present in small stakes state court cases where some soft-tissue solo guy has his secretary format previous negligence complaints. Never something like this in a high-profile federal filing by a lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13168329) |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 4:19 AM Author: ocher newt tellmemore about kerea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13173328) |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 3:30 AM Author: Puce toaster he should've asked his research assistant to proof it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13173120) |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 12:21 PM Author: Electric jet-lagged church Lat enjoyed this thread so much, he linked it on ATL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13174901) |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 1:52 PM Author: adventurous cruise ship gay wizard It's only because ATL can't "discuss" the case, so he's driving traffic here to "discuss" it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13175712) |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 2:20 PM Author: Electric jet-lagged church He rarely links us, so he must just enjoy the pwnage laid out in this thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13175904) |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 3:00 PM Author: adventurous cruise ship gay wizard Case voluntarily dismissed without prejudice. He may find a real attorney to refile. Randazza helped Lat out.
http://abovethelaw.com/2009/11/breaking_jones_v_minkin_dismis.php |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 3:03 PM Author: Buff dashing yarmulke randazza can be self-righteous at times. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13176258) |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 3:04 PM Author: adventurous cruise ship gay wizard ya think? he's uppity for a barry prof. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13176264) |
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Date: November 8th, 2009 1:48 PM Author: soul-stirring rambunctious hell Yeah, I can be. i think that anyone who deeply believes in what they do can cross that line from time to time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13214481) |
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Date: November 8th, 2009 1:51 PM Author: irradiated spot congrats on the Glen Beck case dooder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13214505) |
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Date: October 8th, 2010 11:33 PM Author: Beady-eyed mustard potus LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#16248282) |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 3:10 PM Author: 180 base volcanic crater I don't normally make comments like this, but it's pretty clear that Prof. Jones read my comment supra and heeded my advice.
Prof. Jones, if ur reading this, you owe me $340 for my time. |
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Date: October 9th, 2010 12:06 AM Author: Buff dashing yarmulke shut the fuck up faggot. sue that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#16248472) |
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Date: November 4th, 2009 7:59 PM Author: Cordovan Aromatic Hospital LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#13179081) |
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Date: January 26th, 2011 9:38 PM Author: Beady-eyed mustard potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#17145676) |
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Date: February 8th, 2011 3:14 PM Author: up-to-no-good senate new version How does this guy still have a job? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#17238853) |
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Date: February 8th, 2011 3:24 PM Author: Lake Sneaky Criminal ty for bumping this gem (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#17238915) |
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Date: February 8th, 2011 5:17 PM Author: sexy halford djones@law.miami.edu
someone email him a link |
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Date: February 8th, 2011 5:35 PM Author: Godawful Brilliant Weed Whacker Patrolman holy fuck that complaint (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#17239653) |
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Date: February 8th, 2011 5:38 PM Author: Lake Sneaky Criminal I've seen prisoner pro se pleadings that were literally 10 times better than that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#17239671) |
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Date: February 8th, 2011 5:47 PM Author: Godawful Brilliant Weed Whacker Patrolman i like how he starts by listing all the good things he's done and bad things he's experienced (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1127831&forum_id=2#17239705) |