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BEST Christmas story of the day: ALPHA lady kills thug on subway
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:14 PM Author: thirsty sanctuary Woman fatally knifes thug in subway attack, then flees on F train
BY Kerry Burke and John Lauinger DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
Friday, December 25th 2009, 1:33 AM Police on the scene where Thomas Winston collapsed after being stabbed. Costanza for News Police on the scene where Thomas Winston collapsed after being stabbed. Related News
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Several thugs tried to drag a woman off a Queens subway train Thursday night, but she fought back and fatally stabbed one of her tormenters before fleeing on another train, police said.
The large group of men - perhaps as many as eight - surrounded the woman outside a chicken restaurant above the 21st St.-Queensbridge station about 9 p.m., police and a witness said.
The harassment, which may have included unwanted sexual advances toward the woman and grabbing, continued as she entered the subway station.
The woman broke free from the men and frantically ran down to the platform and hopped on an F train, with the thugs right behind.
"They tried to physically drag her off the train, but she fights back," one cop said.
The struggle continued as the group pulled her off the train and dragged her up the stairs to the mezzanine level.
At one point, the woman stabbed one of her attackers - identified by family as Thomas Winston, 29 - multiple times in the chest.
The woman then sprinted back down to the platform - with the thugs in hot pursuit, said witness Ricardo Josephs, 41.
"Seven or eight of them were chasing the woman," said Josephs, an MTA employee.
"They all jumped over the turnstiles after her," he continued. "She got on the Queens [-bound F] train. They tried to grab her; they tried to hold the train - but she got away."
Winston, who lives in a nearby shelter and has a 10-month-old daughter, was pronounced dead at a Manhattan hospital.
The woman was still in the wind Thursday night, police said. One police source said investigators suspect the woman was acting in self-defense.
Winston has numerous prior arrests, including several raps for sale of narcotics, most recently in September.
Winston's aunt, Diane Greenspan, who has custody of his child, was stunned by his death.
"It's terrible, just terrible - on Christmas Eve!" she said, despairingly.
kburke@nydailynews.com
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/12/24/2009-12-24_woman_fatally_knifes_thug_in_subway_attack.html |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:14 PM Author: hairraiser stage faggotry man i just watched this awesome movie called office space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644723) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:15 PM Author: thirsty sanctuary ho'wd you like it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644728) |
Date: December 25th, 2009 4:16 PM Author: Cream quadroon lodge I love the reactions from relatives. The guy was a bad apple and needed to die, lady. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644734) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:16 PM Author: rose dingle berry There are killings of this sort every single day in inner city. They're just by black guys with guns, so it's considered a bad thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644735) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:17 PM Author: hairraiser stage faggotry you're so contrarian! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644742) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:19 PM Author: rose dingle berry Not at all. I'm just saying. This happens all the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644752) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:21 PM Author: Cream quadroon lodge Mobs of inner city folk behave like barbaric animals and some of them die? Why do they keep doing it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644762) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:22 PM Author: thirsty sanctuary racism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644765) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:24 PM Author: Cream quadroon lodge Not at all. I was just trying to clarify what the "this" in "this happens all the time" is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644774) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:29 PM Author: thirsty sanctuary STFU. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644795) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:58 PM Author: rose dingle berry A drug dealer minding his own business gets jumped by a bunch of rival drug dealers. He takes out a knife, stabs one of them, they die. This happens allll the time, yet no one considers it a good thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644945) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:59 PM Author: Cream quadroon lodge Kinda racist of you to assume all of "those people" are drug dealers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644952) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:59 PM Author: thirsty sanctuary links to several examples of it happening? should be easy to find several examples since it happens all the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644955) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 5:12 PM Author: rose dingle berry How do you think gang fights/shoot outs happens? If one side is by definition starting it, then one side must also be defending themselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644989) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 5:34 PM Author: thirsty sanctuary in other words, you can't find any. gotcha. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13645034) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:26 PM Author: Ruby wild business firm Sounds more like a drug deal gone south than anything. Thugs may be sexually aggressive but they don't randomly paw and pursue people in broad daylight and no normal woman casually carries a knife. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644783) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:27 PM Author: Cream quadroon lodge Groups of men absolutely do randomly paw and pursue women in broad daylight in parts of the city. Normal women don't carry knives, it's true, which is why stories like this one are rare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644790) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:41 PM Author: Ruby wild business firm Where have you ever seen thugs chasing a girl around like mentioned in the story? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644855) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:59 PM Author: Cream quadroon lodge Brooklyn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644954) |
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Date: December 29th, 2009 11:58 PM Author: lilac volcanic crater market Regular women who live in the ghetto do carry knives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13678089) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:05 AM Author: rose dingle berry They carry razors or boxcutters, not knives. Knives over four inches long can get you arrested in NYC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13678159) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:05 AM Author: Laughsome Mustard Dilemma my ex used to carry a screwdriver. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13678167) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:16 AM Author: vengeful fluffy hunting ground I remember when I was 8, one of my best-friends wanted to teach me how to hide a razor blade under my tongue just in case... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13678299) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:22 AM Author: rose dingle berry I suggest a roll of quarters. You put your palm and make a fist, your punches become several times more powerful. Perfectly legal too. And convenient, just in case you ever need to take a bus one day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13678357) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 1:16 AM Author: vengeful fluffy hunting ground lol I'll stick with my Metrocard and invest in some mace. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13678802) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:42 PM Author: rose dingle berry Mase is illegal in NYC no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13681169) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:29 PM Author: thirsty sanctuary wtf? are you retarded? this is fucking stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644794) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:32 PM Author: Bateful citrine mad-dog skullcap alpha cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644809) |
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Date: December 29th, 2009 11:22 PM Author: Ruby wild business firm pwnt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13677640) |
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Date: December 29th, 2009 11:22 PM Author: Ruby wild business firm Right again mofo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13677637) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:32 PM Author: abusive diverse coldplay fan mental disorder she must be related to tmf somehow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644804) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:31 PM Author: medicated box office I wish this would happen every day. Then every day would be Christmas. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644800) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:33 PM Author: thirsty sanctuary first time i've ever agreed with you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644813) |
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Date: December 25th, 2009 4:42 PM Author: thirsty sanctuary i so fucking love this story so much. yeah girlfriend!!!! yeah!!!!!!!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13644858) |
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Date: December 29th, 2009 11:19 PM Author: rose dingle berry Fatal stabbing suspect Cyan Brown, 16, was the aggressor in Xmas Eve subway fracas, say cops
BY Edgar Sandoval, Rocco Parascandola and John Lauinger DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
She's no victim, after all.
A Queens teenager who stabbed a man to death in a subway was facing manslaughter charges Tuesday night after cops said she was to blame in the Christmas Eve fracas.
Cyan Brown, 16, was originally portrayed as a plucky victim who stabbed Thomas Winston, 29, in self-defense after a group of men tried to attack her.
"She was the main aggressor, without a doubt," a police source told The Daily News.
Brown got into a shouting match with Winston after one of her male friends bumped into him on an F train at the 21st St.-Queensbridge station.
Winston, who was with a group of pals, asked the man to apologize, setting off a confrontation that apparently spilled on to the sidewalk in front of a chicken joint.
"You could say excuse me," the slain man said, according to cops.
That's when Brown, who lives in the nearby Queensbridge Houses, got involved in the battle of words.
"She takes over, gets mouthy," the source said.
Moments later, she pulled a knife and stabbed Winston, cops said.
"She reaches in her bag, takes out a weapon, lunges at him and cuts him," the source said.
Winston's friends chased after Brown and tried to drag her off the F train - but she escaped.
Witnesses told cops it appeared the teen was fleeing from a gang of aggressive men.
Brown's mom later told reporters her daughter was protecting herself from the men who tried to fondle her when she stabbed Winston.
Cops also bought the self-defense claim up to a point but after further investigation, they poked holes in that account of the stabbing.
Brown turned herself in for questioning Tuesday afternoon at the 114th Precinct. She is expected to be arraigned today on manslaughter and weapons charges.
"We located an eyewitness to the stabbing," Deputy Police Commissioner Paul Browne said, adding that the witness picked Brown out of a lineup. "As a result, she has been arrested."
Winston was the father of a baby girl.
He was living in a homeless shelter and he was trying to turn his life around, his family said.
Relatives portrayed him as a peaceful person who never should have been killed on his way to get a subway train.
"When you stab somebody in the heart it should be murder first-degree," said his aunt, Diane Greenspan.
"I hope justice will be served."
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Date: December 29th, 2009 11:21 PM Author: Ruby wild business firm brb switching to my Kwisatz Haderach moniker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13677629) |
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Date: December 29th, 2009 11:24 PM Author: Laughsome Mustard Dilemma it was christmas eve, he should have been with his daughter instead of out with his hoodrat friends getting fried chicken. he had several priors too so its not like he was a choir boy. |
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Date: December 29th, 2009 11:47 PM Author: rose dingle berry Ahh yes, that totally justified him being killed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13677961) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:13 AM Author: Laughsome Mustard Dilemma why are you defending a thug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13678249) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 2:20 AM Author: Thriller institution why are you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13679446) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 2:30 AM Author: Heady aquamarine space thank you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13679523) |
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Date: December 29th, 2009 11:52 PM Author: Contagious navy area lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13678016) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:02 AM Author: vengeful fluffy hunting ground oh well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13678121) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:05 AM Author: rose dingle berry You seem underwhelmed by this turn of events. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13678171) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:15 AM Author: vengeful fluffy hunting ground It's just weird that I was passing that same stop today and I brought it up to my friends and I was the only one who kinda supported what she did. All my friends said that she was crazy and her actions were uncalled for. I guess they were right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13678288) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 2:20 AM Author: Thriller institution you GUESS murdering an innocent homeless guy was wrong huh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13679452) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 2:26 AM Author: Heady aquamarine space his friends attacked her. this ghetto thug needed to be taken down. thank god (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13679496) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 2:27 AM Author: Thriller institution the ghetto thug is the 16 yr old crack whore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13679503) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 2:28 AM Author: Heady aquamarine space oh RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13679509) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:42 PM Author: rose dingle berry Why do you hate black guys? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13681165) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:44 PM Author: Heady aquamarine space i do not hate black guys. i hate black guys who commit crimes, have children out of wedlock, do not provide for said children, and who are a net drain on civil society. unfortunately, many black men in this country have all of those characteristics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13681182) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 1:11 PM Author: rose dingle berry This describes tons of white guys as well. You seem to be fixated on the ghetto part, however. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13681337) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 1:13 PM Author: Heady aquamarine space oh lord. is this antimatic? jesus christ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13681357) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:04 AM Author: Titillating chestnut indian lodge haunted graveyard L O L |
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Date: December 29th, 2009 11:52 PM Author: light immigrant I have a girlfriend who lives in Philly who carries a gun with her wherever she goes. If a group of guys jumped her she would have shot them down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13678013) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:12 AM Author: rose dingle berry Or been involved in a fatal shootout. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13678235) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 2:17 AM Author: Thriller institution what a fucking psycho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13679430) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:01 AM Author: lilac volcanic crater market So dude had a Jewish aunt? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13678112) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 1:11 AM Author: Copper Ape Hospital GUESS RACE???? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13678767) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 2:25 AM Author: Heady aquamarine space if we exterminated every ghetto thug with priors in every inner city in america, i guarantee you this country would be 100x better off.
forgive me for not having an ounce of sympathy for this ghetto thug and his family |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:43 PM Author: rose dingle berry Lol @ ghetto thug. If you say 'ghetto' and 'thug' enough times, you can convince yourself that murder's ok. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13681173) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:45 PM Author: Heady aquamarine space notice how you don't really seem to argue the general point about society being better off without this trash (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13681184) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 1:10 PM Author: rose dingle berry Seeing as how you're a sociopath, we'd probably be better off without you. Doesn't mean you deserve to die. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#13681329) |
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Date: December 30th, 2009 12:56 PM Author: ultramarine bawdyhouse pistol if we prosectued white crimes, i guarantee you this country would be 100x better off. no economic meltdown.
forgive me for not having an ounce of sympathy for white corporate criminals and their families. |
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Date: May 23rd, 2010 10:28 AM Author: Marvelous tan azn Did you copy and paste this from the comments on NYPOST.com? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#15061260) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2010 10:17 AM Author: opaque odious scourge upon the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1173792&forum_id=2#15061248) |