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CLS 2009 EIP Data

# of 2L participants (including transfers): ~400 # of 2L's ...
clear sneaky criminal
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mahogany center
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just posting what i saw on tls. i cannot vouch for the accur...
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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:03 AM Author: OperaSop...
Hot Elite Jewess Bawdyhouse
  04/23/10
This is right. Ill add that V25 made 331 offers of which 135...
Hairraiser Slippery Step-uncle's House Foreskin
  04/23/10
That's still pretty respectable. I wonder how much worse NYU...
unholy plaza macaca
  04/22/10
they jiggered their grades last year. i bet it was better.
Galvanic shivering crackhouse
  04/23/10
Actually we just had the EIW thing yesterday too. 70% of th...
Impressive Stag Film
  04/23/10
These numbers seem awfully high. I thought the consensus on...
Stimulating trust fund
  04/23/10
I thought it was pretty high too, but that's what Career Ser...
Impressive Stag Film
  04/23/10
Does it seem like these numbers are consistent with what you...
Stimulating trust fund
  04/23/10
I don't know a ton of 2Ls. The ones I do know are at V20 fi...
Impressive Stag Film
  04/23/10
They didn't tell us exactly how many students got at least o...
Hairraiser Slippery Step-uncle's House Foreskin
  04/23/10
for NYU? or for Columbia? because for NYU I'm looking at i...
Impressive Stag Film
  04/23/10
CLS. Just has a table with "Total Offers Given" an...
Hairraiser Slippery Step-uncle's House Foreskin
  04/23/10
Impressive. Did they mention anything about how grade cutoff...
unholy plaza macaca
  04/23/10
yea they said 3.3-3.49 is still the vast majority of firms, ...
Impressive Stag Film
  04/23/10
16 or 17 additional firms? Jesus. Was Latham NY among th...
unholy plaza macaca
  04/23/10
I don't remember. I don't think so.
Impressive Stag Film
  04/23/10
whatever it is, puts a lot of ITE bloodbath speculation to r...
clear sneaky criminal
  04/23/10
Tell that to the 100+ CLS students that failed to land a job...
Lascivious mediation temple
  04/24/10
#s are really impressive i tihnk. Top 20% for V10? sign me u...
clear sneaky criminal
  04/23/10
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mahogany center
  04/23/10
well it was fucked compared to previous years. but i think C...
clear sneaky criminal
  04/23/10
um no. 80+% got something from OCI pre-ITE @ our MVP.
boyish national security agency crotch
  04/23/10
tbf, I'm sure at least some of those offers came from below ...
unholy plaza macaca
  04/23/10
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mahogany center
  04/23/10
no. what below market firms recruit at columbia?
rose diverse private investor abode
  04/23/10
Serious question?
unholy plaza macaca
  04/23/10
We don't know the deferral rates yet though. CS told us to g...
Hairraiser Slippery Step-uncle's House Foreskin
  04/23/10
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obsidian national
  04/23/10
Not her. Do you really think a chick like that would poast o...
Hairraiser Slippery Step-uncle's House Foreskin
  04/23/10
how many 1L Kent scholars were there last year?
Twinkling nighttime quadroon
  04/23/10
That's not quite right for '06. Again, 388 was the number o...
Amethyst library dog poop
  04/23/10
From CLS --> TTT all within one year of OCI.
Citrine Marvelous Corner
  04/23/10
that confirms that hiring dropped off way more at lower-rank...
Heady internet-worthy masturbator wagecucks
  04/23/10
It probably does (if inadvertently), since the total number ...
haunting gaping den
  04/23/10
more than that. i think our year was 380+ pre-transfer. an...
duck-like bistre lay genital piercing
  04/23/10
True, though nalp numbers alone pretty much establish this.
unholy plaza macaca
  04/23/10
this is not really true. you can look at nalp for confirmat...
puce demanding office coffee pot
  04/24/10
EIP and EIW include below market firms as well as some gover...
Spectacular ruby theater stage yarmulke
  04/23/10
For EIP, the "offers accepted" numbers show zero f...
rebellious vivacious dilemma
  04/23/10
How many total firms/agencies were there? In '06 there were...
haunting gaping den
  04/24/10
IIRC ~260
carmine state electric furnace
  04/24/10
30% no job from interviews at NYU/CLS is a bloodbath.... wha...
Infuriating Goal In Life
  04/24/10
Exactly. That's 100+ students at each school who would have ...
Lascivious mediation temple
  04/24/10
Of course it's a blood bath, but we already knew that before...
carmine state electric furnace
  04/24/10
definitely thought theyd be a lot worse. my estimation was 5...
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  04/24/10
I have several 3L friends who STILL have no employment lined...
Vigorous Piazza Volcanic Crater
  04/24/10
"Maybe this will dramatically reduce law school applica...
carmine state electric furnace
  04/24/10
yeah. fair.
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  04/24/10
lol
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  04/24/10
Me. As for the douche gunner part, see: http://www.autoad...
Turquoise frozen hell
  04/24/10
no one cares.
tripping titillating hunting ground tanning salon
  04/24/10
Apparently SOMEBODY cares: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.p...
Turquoise frozen hell
  04/24/10
since when is posting stats from school considered gunnerism...
Silver fear-inspiring haunted graveyard theater
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no.
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Date: April 22nd, 2010 11:55 PM
Author: clear sneaky criminal

# of 2L participants (including transfers): ~400

# of 2L's who got at least 1 offer: ~270 (67.5%)

V10 Placement: 77 (19.25%)

For comparison, 2006 stats:

# of 2L participants (including transfers): ~400

# of 2L's who got at least 1 offer: ~390 (97.5%)

V10 Placement: 134 (33.5%)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795798)



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Date: April 22nd, 2010 11:58 PM
Author: Concupiscible Public Bath Really Tough Guy

link

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795843)



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Date: April 22nd, 2010 11:59 PM
Author: clear sneaky criminal

TLS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795865)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 3:23 AM
Author: jet parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14797425)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:02 AM
Author: mahogany center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795913)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:03 AM
Author: Grizzly friendly grandma set

just posting what i saw on tls. i cannot vouch for the accuracy of the data, but it seems like it's reliable so whatevs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795939)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:04 AM
Author: mahogany center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795947)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:35 AM
Author: Hot Elite Jewess Bawdyhouse

Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:03 AM

Author: OperaSoprano

just posting what i saw on tls. i cannot vouch for the accuracy of the data, but it seems like it's reliable so whatevs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795939)

forget to change monikers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796351)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:17 AM
Author: Hairraiser Slippery Step-uncle's House Foreskin

This is right. Ill add that V25 made 331 offers of which 135 were accepted, so about half the offers accepted but lots of offers concentrated within the top 1/3.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796125)



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Date: April 22nd, 2010 11:59 PM
Author: unholy plaza macaca

That's still pretty respectable. I wonder how much worse NYU's placement was.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795870)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:08 AM
Author: Galvanic shivering crackhouse

they jiggered their grades last year. i bet it was better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796002)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 10:44 AM
Author: Impressive Stag Film

Actually we just had the EIW thing yesterday too. 70% of the class received at least one offer through EIW, so we did slightly better overall than Columbia with a larger class. However, they didn't break down firm ranges for us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798264)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 11:06 AM
Author: Stimulating trust fund

These numbers seem awfully high. I thought the consensus on here was that the % of students with offers at both schools was around 50-60%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798447)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 11:10 AM
Author: Impressive Stag Film

I thought it was pretty high too, but that's what Career Services gave us. It would mean more if they broke it down a bit like CLS did as to what percentage went to which type of firm, etc.

They expect this year to be better than last year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798474)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:01 PM
Author: Stimulating trust fund

Does it seem like these numbers are consistent with what you've heard from the 2Ls?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14800245)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:05 PM
Author: Impressive Stag Film

I don't know a ton of 2Ls. The ones I do know are at V20 firms this summer, so it's not representative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14800288)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 11:23 AM
Author: Hairraiser Slippery Step-uncle's House Foreskin

They didn't tell us exactly how many students got at least one offer- just how many accepted. A few firms didn't provide data either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798574)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:02 PM
Author: Impressive Stag Film

for NYU? or for Columbia? because for NYU I'm looking at it and it says "70% of the 2L class reported receiving at least 1 offer for summer employment from an employer with whom they interviewed at EIW."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14800261)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 4:18 PM
Author: Hairraiser Slippery Step-uncle's House Foreskin

CLS. Just has a table with "Total Offers Given" and "Total Accepted," for each firm. They didn't even bother to add them up on the Excel spreadsheet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14801500)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 1:27 PM
Author: unholy plaza macaca

Impressive. Did they mention anything about how grade cutoffs changed as a result of the new curve and crappy economy? They used to use 3.5 and 3.3 as general cutoffs for higher and mid tier firms, respectively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14799860)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:04 PM
Author: Impressive Stag Film

yea they said 3.3-3.49 is still the vast majority of firms, and that for 3.5 and above there are historically 10 firms but that like 16 or 17 other firms (that number may be off by a bit) kicked their hiring up into 3.5 or above, but that over half of those that did ended up getting no accepts by NYU students that they offered to.

So consensus seems to be that probably like 15-18 firms I guess will continue to look for 3.5 and above, but otherwise many of those firms will kick back down to 3.3-3.49 if they want to get any NYU students.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14800276)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:16 PM
Author: unholy plaza macaca

16 or 17 additional firms? Jesus.

Was Latham NY among these 3.5 firms?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14800402)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:58 PM
Author: Impressive Stag Film

I don't remember. I don't think so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14800740)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:00 AM
Author: clear sneaky criminal

whatever it is, puts a lot of ITE bloodbath speculation to rest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795891)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 10:17 AM
Author: Lascivious mediation temple

Tell that to the 100+ CLS students that failed to land a job in 2009 who would have been successful in 2006.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14806879)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:08 AM
Author: clear sneaky criminal

#s are really impressive i tihnk. Top 20% for V10? sign me up. Top 70% or so for biglaw? well done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14795999)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:09 AM
Author: mahogany center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796015)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:10 AM
Author: clear sneaky criminal

well it was fucked compared to previous years. but i think C ITE is doing better than how MVP did pre-ITE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796037)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 8:52 AM
Author: boyish national security agency crotch

um no. 80+% got something from OCI pre-ITE @ our MVP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14797941)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:11 AM
Author: unholy plaza macaca

tbf, I'm sure at least some of those offers came from below market firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796052)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:12 AM
Author: mahogany center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796063)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 9:55 AM
Author: rose diverse private investor abode

no. what below market firms recruit at columbia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798055)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 1:29 PM
Author: unholy plaza macaca

Serious question?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14799888)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:09 AM
Author: Hairraiser Slippery Step-uncle's House Foreskin

We don't know the deferral rates yet though. CS told us to go check ATL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796014)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 3:18 AM
Author: obsidian national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14797411)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 10:46 AM
Author: Hairraiser Slippery Step-uncle's House Foreskin

Not her. Do you really think a chick like that would poast on a site like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798285)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:35 AM
Author: Twinkling nighttime quadroon

how many 1L Kent scholars were there last year?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796357)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 1:43 AM
Author: Amethyst library dog poop

That's not quite right for '06. Again, 388 was the number of accepted offers, which presumably double-counts people who split.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14796887)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 2:42 AM
Author: Citrine Marvelous Corner

From CLS --> TTT all within one year of OCI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14797283)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 11:38 AM
Author: Heady internet-worthy masturbator wagecucks

that confirms that hiring dropped off way more at lower-ranked firms than at V10 type places

btw there's a sizable contingent of each year's class that doesn't participate in eip. there's even a facebook group for it. probably like 20-25 people per year, including some on LR. dunno whether your ~400 participants number accounts for this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798689)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 11:50 AM
Author: haunting gaping den

It probably does (if inadvertently), since the total number of students, including transfers, is probably at least 420.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14798824)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:56 PM
Author: duck-like bistre lay genital piercing

more than that. i think our year was 380+ pre-transfer. and something like 60-70 transfers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14799537)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 1:30 PM
Author: unholy plaza macaca

True, though nalp numbers alone pretty much establish this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14799896)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 10:03 AM
Author: puce demanding office coffee pot

this is not really true. you can look at nalp for confirmation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14806865)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 4:20 PM
Author: Spectacular ruby theater stage yarmulke

EIP and EIW include below market firms as well as some government agencies and consulting firms. There were more of these in 2009 than in past years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14801533)



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Date: April 23rd, 2010 6:51 PM
Author: rebellious vivacious dilemma

For EIP, the "offers accepted" numbers show zero for gov. agencies (some may have accepted, but they aren't counted in the totals because a few of the agencies didn't provide numbers). Also, only one person accepted a consulting gig from EIP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14802956)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 9:32 AM
Author: haunting gaping den

How many total firms/agencies were there? In '06 there were 335, including each office separately.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14806840)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 12:06 PM
Author: carmine state electric furnace

IIRC ~260

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14807321)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 9:58 AM
Author: Infuriating Goal In Life

30% no job from interviews at NYU/CLS is a bloodbath.... what are you guys talking about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14806864)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 10:18 AM
Author: Lascivious mediation temple

Exactly. That's 100+ students at each school who would have cruised into big firm jobs 3 years ago. From the perspective of a potential student, 70% is great and likely worth sticker.

From the perspective of a law student, it's shocking. It's 1 in every 3 people you know have a serious wrench thrown into their career and debt management plan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14806882)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 12:01 PM
Author: carmine state electric furnace

Of course it's a blood bath, but we already knew that before the numbers came out. Many had predicted it was much worse, given the anecdotal reports. Thus, the numbers are surprisingly good to some people on here [not me, they are exactly what I expected].

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14807289)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 12:09 PM
Author: Silver fear-inspiring haunted graveyard theater

definitely thought theyd be a lot worse. my estimation was 50% at CCN, 30% MVPD, worse for lower.

so im guessing we can revise those numbers upward?

80-100% (of those who did EIW) at HYS

70% at CCN

50% at MVPDB

30% at GNC

I dont think Berkeley should be that high. The combination of a shitty grading system, fewer east coast firms attending, and traditionally placing in the west coast (which was one of hte most hard hit) probably means they are a good bit lower than 50%, but that's just IMO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14807341)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 12:10 PM
Author: Vigorous Piazza Volcanic Crater

I have several 3L friends who STILL have no employment lined up. Graduation is in 3 weeks. These kids are in serious trouble.

I cannot imagine the disaster that awaits the class of 2011. Not all of the 140 jobless 2Ls are going to be able to find someting in public interest.

And this is CLS/NYU. I imagine 2Ls in schools 10-20 are well and truly fucked.

Maybe this will dramatically reduce law school applications?

I mean... holy fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14807352)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 12:12 PM
Author: carmine state electric furnace

"Maybe this will dramatically reduce law school applications?"

*snorts*

tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14807365)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 1:40 PM
Author: Vigorous Piazza Volcanic Crater

yeah. fair.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808097)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 1:34 PM
Author: tripping titillating hunting ground tanning salon
Subject: lol

what kind of a douche gunner runs home from the EIP Orientation meeting and posts these stats?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808049)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 1:53 PM
Author: Turquoise frozen hell

Me. As for the douche gunner part, see:

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1279494&mc=54&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808189)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 2:37 PM
Author: tripping titillating hunting ground tanning salon

no one cares.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808470)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 3:16 PM
Author: Turquoise frozen hell

Apparently SOMEBODY cares: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&mc=57&forum_id=2#14795798

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808737)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 3:39 PM
Author: Silver fear-inspiring haunted graveyard theater

since when is posting stats from school considered gunnerism? shouldnt a gunner be memorizing their 1000 page outline instead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808941)



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Date: April 24th, 2010 3:41 PM
Author: tripping titillating hunting ground tanning salon

no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14808955)



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Date: April 25th, 2010 1:30 PM
Author: Charismatic business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1291343&forum_id=2#14816793)