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Airplane pilot: CREDITED profession???

Heard they start @ 65k and can make over 100k
Kink-friendly market old irish cottage
  08/22/10
Yeah, it was credited a few decades ago. Have fun with th...
ultramarine internal respiration
  08/22/10
i watched something on frontline abotu this recently. you g...
vigorous emerald heaven blood rage
  08/22/10
are you on drugs
aqua zombie-like son of senegal area
  08/22/10
I think the frontline thing was a bit over the top, but you ...
underhanded motley locale
  08/24/10
LOL not ITE
Dark genital piercing
  08/22/10
over 100k? those guys flying across oceans can easily make 2...
aqua zombie-like son of senegal area
  08/22/10
Those jobs are insanely hard to get now
rebellious home
  08/22/10
well yeah. you basically have to be ex-USAF with 30 years of...
aqua zombie-like son of senegal area
  08/22/10
you cant be too old; pilots get forced to retire
Thriller immigrant gay wizard
  08/24/10
No, I enjoy living.
adventurous hospital
  08/22/10
american civilians who died in airplane crashes last year: 5...
aqua zombie-like son of senegal area
  08/22/10
I've always wondered about this stat: civilians who died ...
twinkling thirsty parlor sweet tailpipe
  08/22/10
are you stupid? there was only one crash in the United State...
aqua zombie-like son of senegal area
  08/22/10
"there was only one crash in the United States last yea...
mauve godawful codepig keepsake machete
  08/22/10
ntsb says "wai" http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/Pa...
pale histrionic state hissy fit
  08/22/10
those are only airline crashes
mauve godawful codepig keepsake machete
  08/22/10
obviously there were small plane crashes, but that isn't the...
pale histrionic state hissy fit
  08/22/10
yeah but this subthread was about the safety of air travel v...
mauve godawful codepig keepsake machete
  08/22/10
true. i doubt the additional deaths in small crashes amount...
pale histrionic state hissy fit
  08/22/10
you are an idiot.
Smoky fat ankles fanboi
  08/25/10
nice quantitative analysis fail
Big-titted Khaki Stead Roast Beef
  08/24/10
http://www.meretrix.com/~harry/flying/notes/safetyvsdriving....
Orange lodge
  08/24/10
not sure if 40 mph is right, but it seems fair enough inclu...
Ungodly swashbuckling police squad
  08/24/10
that's pretty racist man cornpoe is brilliant
Glassy institution circlehead
  11/20/10
first, 40 mph is too high by far for average speed of cars, ...
sinister place of business halford
  11/20/10
u dumb?
plum prole sanctuary
  08/24/10
In the 1980s, absolutely. Now, no.
avocado vibrant doctorate lettuce
  08/22/10
Seems really boring after a while.
crusty confused dysfunction hunting ground
  08/22/10
thats when you start banging stewardesses
Overrated pit
  08/22/10
They are called flight attendants, you sexist pig.
crusty confused dysfunction hunting ground
  08/22/10
no, men in the profession are called "male stewardesses...
Frum Sepia Round Eye Office
  08/25/10
yep. if u fuck up, you're dead and nobody can bash you. i...
Overrated pit
  08/22/10
don't you dare disparage LORD SULLY, you worthless shitstain
mauve godawful codepig keepsake machete
  08/22/10
sully would rip that fucker's voice box out and use it as fl...
aqua zombie-like son of senegal area
  08/22/10
...
pale histrionic state hissy fit
  08/22/10
i echo the above poster in condemning your use of douche to ...
pale histrionic state hissy fit
  08/22/10
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rebellious home
  08/22/10
I'm not gay, but I would do Sully if he wanted me to. He is...
Sienna Legal Warrant
  08/24/10
Pilot is a shitty job. The copilot in that plane crash in bu...
mauve godawful codepig keepsake machete
  08/22/10
unstable. i know an airplane pilot who was working at a big...
big shaky psychic indirect expression
  08/22/10
It's all automated now. A monkey could fly an airline. Sorry...
Exhilarant Whorehouse
  08/22/10
One of my friend's dads growing up was the personal pilot fo...
drab aphrodisiac generalized bond
  08/24/10
bro in law flies for a major airline. says it's cake. do...
mustard station roommate
  08/24/10
Uncle has this job, sounds like a genuinely dreadful existen...
Crimson Sick Party Of The First Part Abode
  08/24/10
"He spent several years flying along beaches pulling si...
House-broken business firm cuckold
  08/24/10
It's really dangerous to fly with those signs behind the pla...
Poppy resort multi-billionaire
  08/24/10
How so - they look like they're 100' off the ground at most....
House-broken business firm cuckold
  08/24/10
The sign pulls the plane down backwards. If you lose engine...
Poppy resort multi-billionaire
  08/24/10
I would've assumed there's some emergency "drop the sig...
House-broken business firm cuckold
  08/24/10
Flying with them isn't the dangerous part, the way the pick ...
avocado vibrant doctorate lettuce
  08/25/10
Enjoy retiring at 40 with a full salary pension. Oh wait, ai...
Hairraiser brunch rigor
  08/24/10
Air traffic controller is actually way more credited.
Poppy resort multi-billionaire
  08/24/10
The above poaster who said this was credited a few decades a...
Stimulating judgmental regret theatre
  08/24/10
Ya it used to be one of the most prestigious jobs, now I wor...
Sooty dashing stag film clown
  08/25/10


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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:03 PM
Author: Kink-friendly market old irish cottage

Heard they start @ 65k and can make over 100k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856340)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:04 PM
Author: ultramarine internal respiration

Yeah, it was credited a few decades ago.

Have fun with that massively expensive schooling and that $38k/year puddle jumper job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856356)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:05 PM
Author: vigorous emerald heaven blood rage

i watched something on frontline abotu this recently. you go to groudn school then flight school. then you're a first officer and you make peanuts. you do this for a long time then you get the stick as captain. guys fastrtrack the process by doing regional airlines. the process is dreadful. pays peanutes.

watch frontline, Flying Cheap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856360)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:10 PM
Author: aqua zombie-like son of senegal area

are you on drugs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856418)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 8:33 AM
Author: underhanded motley locale

I think the frontline thing was a bit over the top, but you definitely have to pay your dues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15866815)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:04 PM
Author: Dark genital piercing

LOL not ITE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856349)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:04 PM
Author: aqua zombie-like son of senegal area

over 100k? those guys flying across oceans can easily make 250k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856354)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:05 PM
Author: rebellious home

Those jobs are insanely hard to get now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856362)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:08 PM
Author: aqua zombie-like son of senegal area

well yeah. you basically have to be ex-USAF with 30 years of commercial flying experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856394)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 8:39 AM
Author: Thriller immigrant gay wizard

you cant be too old; pilots get forced to retire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15866821)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:05 PM
Author: adventurous hospital

No, I enjoy living.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856359)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:07 PM
Author: aqua zombie-like son of senegal area

american civilians who died in airplane crashes last year: 52

americans civilians who died in car crashes last year: 46,000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856388)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:11 PM
Author: twinkling thirsty parlor sweet tailpipe

I've always wondered about this stat:

civilians who died in [airplane/car] crash / number of hours in [airplane/car]

I suspect a car is actually safer than an airplane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856427)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:14 PM
Author: aqua zombie-like son of senegal area

are you stupid? there was only one crash in the United States last year that killed people. so you could have flown every second of the year and still would only have a 1 in 500,000 chance of dying or whatever.

not the same in cars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856449)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:21 PM
Author: mauve godawful codepig keepsake machete

"there was only one crash in the United States last year that killed people"

no wai

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856532)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:23 PM
Author: pale histrionic state hissy fit

ntsb says "wai"

http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/Paxfatal.htm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856558)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:28 PM
Author: mauve godawful codepig keepsake machete

those are only airline crashes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856608)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:30 PM
Author: pale histrionic state hissy fit

obviously there were small plane crashes, but that isn't the subject of this thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856623)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:33 PM
Author: mauve godawful codepig keepsake machete

yeah but this subthread was about the safety of air travel vs. car travel so stats should include private air crashes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856655)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:34 PM
Author: pale histrionic state hissy fit

true. i doubt the additional deaths in small crashes amount for much though given the total number of hours flown

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856663)



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Date: August 25th, 2010 6:58 PM
Author: Smoky fat ankles fanboi

you are an idiot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15879552)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 9:01 AM
Author: Big-titted Khaki Stead Roast Beef

nice quantitative analysis fail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15866846)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 8:19 AM
Author: Orange lodge

http://www.meretrix.com/~harry/flying/notes/safetyvsdriving.html

How about if we compare on an "hour to hour" basis? That requires an assumption of an average speed for autos. We'll choose 40mph. This leads to the following numbers:

GA: 11.2 fatal accidents and 19.7 fatalities per million hours

driving: .528 fatal accidents and .588 fatalities per million hours

On this basis, flying has 21 times the number of fatal accidents and 33.5 times the number of fatalities per hour of operation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15866810)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 4:50 PM
Author: Ungodly swashbuckling police squad

not sure if 40 mph is right, but it seems fair enough

include life-changing injuries and I think cars would fare far worse, though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15869274)



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Date: November 20th, 2010 6:49 AM
Author: Glassy institution circlehead

that's pretty racist man cornpoe is brilliant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#16597503)



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Date: November 20th, 2010 11:14 AM
Author: sinister place of business halford

first, 40 mph is too high by far for average speed of cars, thus grossly underestimating the auto fatality rate..

second, the page establishes commercial flying as much safer than driving.

third, the page doesn't take into account the number of passengers which skews the statistic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#16598034)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 11:53 PM
Author: plum prole sanctuary

u dumb?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15873231)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:07 PM
Author: avocado vibrant doctorate lettuce

In the 1980s, absolutely. Now, no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856387)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:08 PM
Author: crusty confused dysfunction hunting ground

Seems really boring after a while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856393)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:09 PM
Author: Overrated pit

thats when you start banging stewardesses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856401)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:09 PM
Author: crusty confused dysfunction hunting ground

They are called flight attendants, you sexist pig.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856406)



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Date: August 25th, 2010 6:55 PM
Author: Frum Sepia Round Eye Office

no, men in the profession are called "male stewardesses"

HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15879531)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:08 PM
Author: Overrated pit

yep. if u fuck up, you're dead and nobody can bash you.

if you act heroic, you get lauded like that douche sully.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856397)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:13 PM
Author: mauve godawful codepig keepsake machete

don't you dare disparage LORD SULLY, you worthless shitstain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856440)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:16 PM
Author: aqua zombie-like son of senegal area

sully would rip that fucker's voice box out and use it as flower pot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856484)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:19 PM
Author: pale histrionic state hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856511)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:15 PM
Author: pale histrionic state hissy fit

i echo the above poster in condemning your use of douche to describe sully

the dude is an alpha badass who piloted a massive jet safely into a river

you are a fucking loser who will never approach his level of prestige

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856475)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:18 PM
Author: rebellious home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856504)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 3:45 PM
Author: Sienna Legal Warrant

I'm not gay, but I would do Sully if he wanted me to. He is a badass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15868782)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:17 PM
Author: mauve godawful codepig keepsake machete

Pilot is a shitty job. The copilot in that plane crash in buffalo made fucking 16,200 a year and worked a second job at a coffee shop. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/13/AR2009051301848.html?hpid=topnews

Plus living out of a suitcase must suck.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856489)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:18 PM
Author: big shaky psychic indirect expression

unstable. i know an airplane pilot who was working at a big airline but was laid off in his early 40s. Now, instead of being a captain, he flies a small jet for some private doods for about $40k/year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856498)



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Date: August 22nd, 2010 11:38 PM
Author: Exhilarant Whorehouse

It's all automated now. A monkey could fly an airline. Sorry about your aspirational MIDAIRTTT dreams shattering upon reading this post bro.

u mad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15856701)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 3:34 AM
Author: drab aphrodisiac generalized bond

One of my friend's dads growing up was the personal pilot for the Pritzkers. He only had to work a couple times a week and got to fly a sweet Learjet around.

I doubt that's typical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15866518)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 4:18 AM
Author: mustard station roommate

bro in law flies for a major airline. says it's cake.

doesn't get much quality time with the kids though. more like a surrogate dad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15866627)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 4:47 AM
Author: Crimson Sick Party Of The First Part Abode

Uncle has this job, sounds like a genuinely dreadful existence, but I guess if you're one of those guys who just loves the idea of flying, it might be a way to go. He spent several years flying along beaches pulling signs behind him, then worked up to co-pilot doing shitty regional routes, then got laid off, last I heard he was doing private jets, which pays worse but has amazing food.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15866664)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 3:53 PM
Author: House-broken business firm cuckold

"He spent several years flying along beaches pulling signs behind him,"

This sounds pretty sweet. Set up shop in Ft Walton or Myrtle Beach, fly around a little bit, maybe take some beach bunnies up in the air to impress them, drink some High Life in the evenings. You probably make like $20K though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15868844)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 3:58 PM
Author: Poppy resort multi-billionaire

It's really dangerous to fly with those signs behind the plane though. Normally if the engine stalls you can recover pretty easily and its NBD. If you have one of those signs behind you however, you are pretty fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15868873)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 3:59 PM
Author: House-broken business firm cuckold

How so - they look like they're 100' off the ground at most. Worst comes to worst you aim for the beach and hope the college students break your fall.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15868881)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 4:02 PM
Author: Poppy resort multi-billionaire

The sign pulls the plane down backwards. If you lose engine power there really isn't shit you can do about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15868898)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 4:51 PM
Author: House-broken business firm cuckold

I would've assumed there's some emergency "drop the sign" switch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15869281)



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Date: August 25th, 2010 12:01 AM
Author: avocado vibrant doctorate lettuce

Flying with them isn't the dangerous part, the way the pick up the signs after takeoff is dangerous as all hell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86yhE82vzfk&feature=search

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15873305)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 8:33 AM
Author: Hairraiser brunch rigor

Enjoy retiring at 40 with a full salary pension. Oh wait, airlines are bankrupt. nm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15866818)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 3:49 PM
Author: Poppy resort multi-billionaire

Air traffic controller is actually way more credited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15868819)



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Date: August 24th, 2010 8:55 PM
Author: Stimulating judgmental regret theatre

The above poaster who said this was credited a few decades ago nailed it. Friend's dad flew for a major carrier, and from what he's said, really, it's not unlike the legal profession in that a few are cruising while everyone else fights for scraps. The industry today bears little resemblence to what it was back in the day when being pilot was a big deal (a lot of them were ex-military fighter jockeys) and the stewardesses, ahem, flight attendants, were mostly hot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15871243)



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Date: August 25th, 2010 12:12 AM
Author: Sooty dashing stag film clown

Ya it used to be one of the most prestigious jobs, now I worry about stressed out suicidal pilots flying me around. If you want to fly now, the AF or NAVY is the only way to go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1402721&forum_id=2#15873421)