Date: February 4th, 2011 2:47 AM Author: disturbing crimson hominid shrine
we'll get a poster or two to act as admins. people here can submit articles (run it on wordpress and you can just create a user for everyone who wants to contribute), articles get approved by the admins and published.
anonymous emails to political blogs and news sites. we got some smart, well-written motherfuckers on here that could contribute very high quality content. dollars to donuts it gets picked up, especially if it has strong rhetoric like i'm sure it will. and there's a way to make it all anonymous (short of a subpoena).
anyone worked with any of these companies before? the last one takes liberty reserve, which is an anonymous payment service. i didn't check the other two.
edit: looking for offshore hosting right now. i've got one company i've used before, but they're kinda shitty.
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:09 AM Author: dull beady-eyed menage french chef
Why not use Moneybookers to buy a domain name from GoDaddy anonymously, and have it forward to a Google blog site or whatever? You can style the Google blog so it doesn't look shitty, and you don't have to pay for hosting. Just the $5 domain name registration or whatever.
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:13 AM Author: dull beady-eyed menage french chef
What would be the direction of this blog? "Youth issues" sounds vague and gay. And we could only re-hash the same "boomers fucked the country" article once or twice, right?
I guess posting commentary about news of the day and showing how the root problem is pensions and shit might be something doable.
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:17 AM Author: disturbing crimson hominid shrine
i think we could hammer the "boomers fucked the country" message over and over. look at how much shit :D posts by himself every day. combine that with 180 commentary / opinion pieces, and then after it gets a little traction open up comments and start organizing the traffic.
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:19 AM Author: bipolar reading party partner
an editorial master man (you?) could assign topics/stories to people who are participating and they write up a vitriol laden, well research post and turn it back into you.
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:20 AM Author: Laughsome Plaza
i don't know anything about economics, really, but i'm happy to write from the perspective of art/music/literature, philosophy, or the history of ideas
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:22 AM Author: dull beady-eyed menage french chef
I like this. I would honestly probably be best suited as some sort of editor. Not like EIC but I edit the copy or whatever. I'm butt retentive like that. Just my honest take. I'm not a prose master man.
I think we need to have some sort of joint ownership or whatnot. I mean, I doubt this will actually go anywhere, but on the off chance it does, we don't want the partially-outted doods who work on the site to be trying to fuck each other over for top billing so they can get laid by Veronica Belmont or Felicia Day or geek girl du jour.
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:26 AM Author: disturbing crimson hominid shrine
just keep it all loose and anonymous and get it rolling. if it starts picking up steam, have that conversation then if you want. it'll work best now if we just get shit going and get as many contributions and people on board as possible.
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:22 AM Author: excitant gaping hall
brother, you need to think bigger.
we will rage against the dying of the light. we will shift the paradigm. we will shape the zeitgeist. we will be the voice of a generation. we will nourish the mind and the soul. we will imagine a future with dignity. we will end fads and start trends. we will revive the artistic spirit. we will be the canary in the coal mine. we will be condemned as fools before we are hailed as prophets. we will be the cynics who emerge from our internet chrysalis to become the visionaries of a new world.
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:15 AM Author: disturbing crimson hominid shrine
ok, internet sleuths: research Katz Global and make sure they're legit.
someone else go find a Wordpress theme on http://www.themeforest.com or http://www.woothemes.com or somewhere else. ya'll decide on a good looking theme. keep it very simple - we're only going to have posts on there. nothing fancy.
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:25 AM Author: disturbing crimson hominid shrine
there's seriously no reason to make one from scratch. there are a million cheap and free ones out there that look great.
but, you just became the website maintenance guy. you shouldn't have to do anything, but after i get it all up and running, you cool with handling any future wordpress questions that come up? if you haven't worked with it before, trust me, it's really easy.
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:21 AM Author: disturbing crimson hominid shrine
no, they're easy, but fuck that. a theme from themeforest.com costs $30. i just ordered $18 worth of Dominos tonight. just find one that works and i'll buy it - it's waaay better than doing it from scratch.
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:26 AM Author: coral legend
it's very rare that people post anything on xoxo more than a few sentences, or a paragraph at most. the content is in the give and take of the thread, not the individual poasts. what makes you think xoxo is capable of producing anything beyond that?
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:31 AM Author: dull beady-eyed menage french chef
OK dawgs I'm seriously going to bed now. It's 2:30 and I told my wife that if it snows I will walk to the hospital and walk her back to the apt. She gets off at like 6-7. FUCK ME.
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:38 AM Author: disturbing crimson hominid shrine
alright, i'm also heading off to bed. let's bump this tomorrow for the day crowd and see if interest remains. i'll set it all up and pay for everything if people are really on board. it'll be up to others though to provide the content and editorial.
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:45 AM Author: Wonderful nudist deer antler brethren
sounds like a good idea.
i worry about focusing too narrowly on the youth in revolt theme (would we just abandon Earl?), but there's certainly a lot to talk about in that space.
Date: February 4th, 2011 4:27 AM Author: alcoholic stirring regret
absolutely. it's a very good idea. if i happen to post anything here, it's fine to use it over there, though obviously we're aiming for a bit more polish.
Date: February 4th, 2011 4:23 AM Author: disturbing crimson hominid shrine Subject: marketing ideas
- just by being birthed on xoxo, i'm 90% sure we could get Elie to give it a mention on AboveTheLaw.
- if we start attacking political candidates, we could get coverage from all kinds of political blogs. need to really attack them though, with the kind of rhetoric an anonymous blog allows.
- you wait a couple weeks, then figure out what blogs have mentioned that BusinessWeek article by checking its backlinks. email them / comment on their post. you do this for any article about how boomers are bad or how the youth are fucked.
- create a Facebook page, give away a "Fuck Boomers" bumper sticker or something to anyone who clicks "Like". run Facebook ads targeting college kids.
- gather comprehensive jobs data. like the best, bar none, collection of data on youth employment rates (from the bureau of labor, census.gov, etc.). create a resource center page on the site for journalists. email it to every journalist who has ever written about generational issues.
Date: February 4th, 2011 4:26 AM Author: Laughsome Plaza
if we want it to be popular among youths, xo's strengths will work well - viral marketing, memes, etc. some slogan, unaccompanied, in bathrooms of universities and unemployment offices.
Date: February 4th, 2011 4:33 AM Author: disturbing crimson hominid shrine
exactly. we're the generation we're trying to appeal to, and we believe what we're saying. i'm not some 50 year old suit trying to figure out how to get teenagers to buy a cellphone case.
Date: February 4th, 2011 4:26 AM Author: bipolar reading party partner
"- if we start attacking political candidates, we could get coverage from all kinds of political blogs. need to really attack them though, with the kind of rhetoric an anonymous blog allows"
Date: February 4th, 2011 4:34 AM Author: disturbing crimson hominid shrine
no slander, no racial epithets, and we've got to use "fuck" and "cunt" and the like judiciously. other than that, anything goes. sound like a good editorial policy?
Date: February 4th, 2011 4:43 AM Author: disturbing crimson hominid shrine
the point of the fuck boomers was to generation controversy. it's gotta be offensive.
this one is similar, but we don't want anyone to apply - what we want is a reporter to write about a shady method students are using in the face of unemployment.
Date: February 4th, 2011 9:25 AM Author: Garnet Stain Brunch
From experience, I've hawked shit to ATL, it's easy as hell to get them to reprint, as long as you have something coherent. They're lazy fat-asses who just take whatever's thrown at them. Basic link gets you about 3K in hits over 24 hours and you'll get a slight uptick in readership/RSS.
Additionally, from a marketing angle, Youthanize.org is a shitty name. It's as shitty as XOXOHTH. You need something that resonates and is catchy, but isn't offensive or gross to most people.
Date: February 4th, 2011 9:48 AM Author: Talented toilet seat
its a 'snow day' in Houston. he's probably out frolickings on a trashcan lid in Memorial Park.
that being said, i've been here since PR days and im on board with this idea. There really isnt a cogent political philsophy on this board, hell, the only thing that most poasters have in common is an interest in football, but this board wields a wicked keyboard when it comes to putting blame where blame is due on the fucknuts that wrecked the economy and much else.
Date: February 4th, 2011 9:43 AM Author: Garnet Stain Brunch
I get it.
Isn't that too esoteric? If this is going to be branded as a legit youth-issues (and maybe law-issues) site, isn't it dumb to give it some random name based on an inside joke from a 7-year-old dead Jewish site?
Facebook, MySpace, Groupon, Google, all are branded with some connection to the mission.
Date: February 4th, 2011 9:53 AM Author: Garnet Stain Brunch
Okay, a few concepts I kind of like--question is whether they're Googleable (i.e., we want something unique that if someone Googles it, it's the first hit; not something too common).
I like something along the lines of "Rake" or "Raked" or "Rent," all from a similar family.
A "rake" (or "rakehell") is a person of style but loose morals, as youth are undone in contemporary society; also, youth have been "raked" over the coals by the elderly.
"Rent" is something torn in two, as youth have been torn from opportunity; additionally, "rent" is symbolic of a non-ownership society for youth, who lack the resources to purchase.
Another couple of concepts: ambulate, or wander, or moil--some concept of wandering about restlessly with no particular destination (both for youth, and for the multifarious subjects of the blog); "moil" includes some definitions like "wallow in the mire," "work hard," and "harass."
Date: February 4th, 2011 10:38 AM Author: Garnet Stain Brunch
"Google" is too smart, too.
I like "Raked." It even sounds like "raped." The image of hot coals searing the site is cool. And there should be an off-topic page in which the "ked" is inverted like "rEVOLution."
Date: February 4th, 2011 10:42 AM Author: Titillating apoplectic son of senegal
Buying out a domain name requires a breach in anonymity as well as upfront capital. Raked blog is gay, as is online. All raked.org is going to get you is a bunch of hits to raked.com.
Date: February 4th, 2011 10:40 AM Author: dun racy clown
Ok,i slept on this and I'm still down. Count me in as a contributor.
Here's what I think. I really like the "dead on the vine" name, it's a solid image of the idea we're trying to convey.
Also, I'm opposed to the idea of bumper stickers or other things with slogans like "fuck boomers" I think it just comes off as raging against the machine, and the goal should be to garner support and understanding for exactly how fucked this generation is. Let the other side pound the rhetoric. we've got facts.
A suggestion would be something like a link to that businessweek article, with a witty caption, an intro into the article, and as long as commentary as the article requires.
Date: February 4th, 2011 10:41 AM Author: Titillating apoplectic son of senegal
do we really want to limit this to hating on boomers? We have so much brilliant shit here on all sorts of diverse topics. We want to create a new culture where some guy can come on and write a lengthy screed on cool topics.
Date: February 4th, 2011 11:27 AM Author: dull beady-eyed menage french chef
IDEA: let's not worry about domain name until we've got a site up and running and some content. Then we decide on a name, buy that domain, point it to the hosted IP, and then use SEO techniques, talk to ATL, etc.
think about it: don't trap yourself into a name until you know the direction you're going
Date: February 4th, 2011 12:01 PM Author: dull beady-eyed menage french chef
it looks like reddit makes their code open source and i recall someone here having the idea of reddit-like code for voting on comments, etc. http://code.reddit.com/
Date: February 4th, 2011 12:04 PM Author: dull beady-eyed menage french chef
that's a good idea, but i really think we need to generate some content before spending too much time on this
too many projects are just doods going "hey lets' be badass and have a mission statement, decide on a URL, etc" instead of focusing on generating some content first
we need 3-4 good screeds imo before worrying about 90% of what we've worried about ITT
of course i'm no better
my suggestion is that some of our good writers pen a screed about econ/pensions/youth issues/banking failures/whatever and poast ITT and we edit and see what we like
Yeah, fair enough. At some point though, there needs to be some clarity of purpose and the presentation of a unified message, unless what we're trying to do is "point-counterpoint", which ITT makes me think we are NOT going for.
Date: February 4th, 2011 12:08 PM Author: Garnet Stain Brunch
Message is MFEs from XO commenting on issues affecting the youth culture. That's general enough. And enough from XO will populate the first hits, then ATL linkbait will add blood.
My concern with that is that, to outsiders, the blog is "youth commenting on issues affecting youth culture," just like 100000000 other blogs out there. What will set us apart? I dont want to be pessimistic, but we probably need something more than just quality content.
Date: February 4th, 2011 12:12 PM Author: Garnet Stain Brunch
There aren't any like that, are there? I mean, what is there? We start with content, we get XO to migrate, we get some link bait from ATL, and we'll have a few thousand uniques in no time. Quality content is enough to start.
Date: February 4th, 2011 12:03 PM Author: Titillating apoplectic son of senegal
I set up thesoloattorney.com as a testbed because katzglobal takes a while to get shit started. I might get outted, though, which I don't mind too much but I would rather avoid it.
Date: February 4th, 2011 12:14 PM Author: Garnet Stain Brunch
Thing is, sure, we have a placeholder site, we generate some content. We have that in two weeks. We're not going to beg ATL to link to it until we have a brand. So yeah, we can get a placeholder, but that phase can't last long if you intend to start pub.
Date: February 4th, 2011 12:09 PM Author: Garnet Stain Brunch
What's the "author" process going to be? Who gets to participate on the blog? If you have more than 20 entries a day, it'll overwhelm readers and won't work (which is why there's going to have to be a discussion board in the back to get to more one-off commentary).
Date: February 4th, 2011 12:21 PM Author: Titillating apoplectic son of senegal
We need two or three editors to select good stories for submission. Kind of like slashdot but without morons. The editors will post stories anonymously so posters will not get outted. However, posters can use pseudonyms to get credit.
Date: February 4th, 2011 12:21 PM Author: dun racy clown
Probably going to be a number of contributors who find articles worth commenting on, and create a post along with commentary that gets submitted to an editor for spell/grammar/coding checks and then greenlighted if deemed ok.
Date: February 4th, 2011 12:11 PM Author: Garnet Stain Brunch
PSA this has to happen fast or bel will tattle to rach and rach will come back and give us a condor and 95% of you Rhianna faggots will think everything's okay again.
Date: February 4th, 2011 12:37 PM Author: dull beady-eyed menage french chef
Worst case scenario, fallback is to email me at greetingsxo@gmail.com and I can link up all the doods who email me on a private google group or whatever it's called
I can contribute finance/econ and middle east articles. I would like to help out on civil liberties articles but it probably would make more sense for someone who has studied law to write those.
wow i'm surprised this has resonated with so many of you. awesome.
first things first, we need a name. i really think it's gotta take an irreverent tone. that's the only way we get young people to read it, and it provides a great marketing angle. look at the Law School Transparency guys - too "legit". they have a killer angle (law schools are scams, and we can prove it), but their coverage has been limited.
now, the name itself doesn't have to be offensive. just short. Dead on the Vine is good, but it might be a tad too long. maybe not though. if the name is tame like that, though, the tagline shouldn't be.
also, be careful of being too clever with the name. we want mass appeal. i think the Lost Soles - In Search of Bootstraps above is 180, but too few people will understand it. at least, that's my opinion.
the tone and theme is rage. we're fucking pissed. boomers fucked it up, here's how they've fucked it up, and here are ideas to fix things while fucking them back.
it's gotta have a strong theme like this. and, if our theme was high quality, smart content with a message but attempting to be convincing (like, say, an Atlantic article), it won't go anywhere.
ok so, theme and tagline. there are a lot of ideas above. let's try to settle on one today. also, there needs to be a .org domain available for whatever name you pick. i think we should roll with .org, because it makes us sound like a cause, a non-profit.
also, why we need a name first: we've got to just get it up and start posting. can't do that until we have a domain name. we're all type A people here and want it to be organized and well thought out and have regular columns and shit, but it'll never launch if we plan it all out. trust me.
we make anyone who wants to be an author one. with wordpress, you can limit authors to only be able to contribute / edit their own content, and then to publish it needs to approved by an admin. we could have 50 authors in the beginning if we want. the idea is a grassroots thing.
i think we gotta run with whatever the thing is actually going to be from day 1. i'm telling you, if we say "here, let's try it out on this domain, test it out, see what the content looks like, organize it" etc. the real thing will never launch. we'll all have conflicting opinion's about what's going on at thesoloattorney.com, and migrating over to a different domain down the road won't ever happen.
it's cool you set it up though. i'm happy there are other web people here to run shit.
Date: February 4th, 2011 1:37 PM Author: Titillating apoplectic son of senegal
I also have deadonthevine.com but Katz Global is being faggot about setting it up. Moving the content to a new domain will not be a problem because WordPress is easy like that.
Date: February 4th, 2011 1:32 PM Author: geriatric meetinghouse ceo
it needs to be lost soles you stupid piece of shit. now get on it.
people will understand "in search of bootstraps" and if not you just throw a goddam cartoon character up there with worn out shoes.
Framing it as "in search of bootstraps" automatically steers your blog in a positive direction--it makes the focus of the blog not on bashing boomers but on trying to get our generation to work in spite of them.
The second will obviously have much greater traction in the media than a blog devoted to bashing boomers.
i don't know that it will obviously have greater traction. i think the negative angle of bashing boomers taps into how pissed off our generation is. look at that rally Stewart and Colbert had - that happened because it was a negative angle (even though he concluded it with a sappy speech). combine the negative angle with irreverence / cursing, the willingness to say shit that others won't, and i think that's the theme to go with.
look at what gets play in the media: it's all negative shit. scandals, bad things happening, how this or that person or entity is trying to screw someone over. when's the last time you saw a highly rated news show that had a positive spin?
edit: we want boomers to show up, read what has been written, and get fucking angry at us. we want those comments like "you're all lazy and don't work hard enough". if the blog is about finding jobs for young people, they're just going to read it and think "oh, that's good."
edit 2: that's not to say i'm against the name. the name is good. ya'll vote or something and decide. i'm just talking about the overall theme / tone.
Date: February 4th, 2011 2:41 PM Author: geriatric meetinghouse ceo
man what the fuck is this shit
the whole point is to refocus the debate away from being lazy kids who dont want to work. the boomer bashing in that instance comes off as self-indulgent and jealous. thats how boomers want to phrase this generational divide--they work hard, we bitch and couchsurf. ihateboomers.com or wemad.com just sounds petulant and wont be taken seriously.
by setting it up as a blog devoted to exposing the truth about who wants to work but cant because we have been fuckt by the boomers, we draw sympathy and curiosity into our position. the boomers then, rather than dismissing us as lazy, will be defensive and then the flame will be on.
Date: February 4th, 2011 1:44 PM Author: Out-of-control pink stag film
pretty much it's what we're pissed about and what we're looking for, and it's the perfect insult re: boomers, we just want what they had, the ability to even get our foot in the door then pull ourselves up.
I'm not really a huge boomer hate like ya'll but I think the name works, it's for sale see how much it is. Spend 50-100 bucks on the name if you actually want to devote some time, imo. I'm sure you can purchase it anonymously if you try.
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a bunch of highly educated twenty and thirty somethings just wandering aimlessly looking for a way to prove themselves because they can't get an entry level job. Lost Soles brah.
Date: February 4th, 2011 1:49 PM Author: dun racy clown
Just vetting ideas brother, but I don't know how hard we should push on the tone/theme being rage. Yeah, WE are pissed OFS, but I wonder if we should be more level headed in the approach.
I think a satire/ironic approach would work well, even a little schticky, coupled with a strong analysis of exactly why we are fucked. I just don't know how much traction we would get if we just say, hey boomers you fucked everything up and we know it! We should say in a mocking way, to their face, with a smile.
For example, responding to a guy's comment from the businessweek article who said, this generatino is lazy and just complains when it faces a little adversity, and doesn't know what hard work is etc etc etc. Gimme a little bit and I could FUCK THAT GUY UP without turning it into a finger-pointing bitchfest.
I guess my notion runs similar to firejoemorgan.com.
edit - imo the biggest focal point has to be an original and witty perspective that people enjoy reading and look forward to reading more of.
Date: February 4th, 2011 2:05 PM Author: dun racy clown
Ok. Is this to tenuous:
Part of the process of shoe-making is called "lasting." Boomers have caused lasting damage to our generation, and because of the lasting (double entendre) damage, we are now "soles in search of bootstraps."
Date: February 4th, 2011 2:01 PM Author: histrionic navy base nowag
No offense to the wrassler and thewaywardslash, but neither are really the best choice for leading or controlling this project. If it were to happen it would need to start with types like attidood or Scott Walker who could reach out to other top posters.
Date: February 4th, 2011 2:12 PM Author: histrionic navy base nowag
Right now I think cleverdood and attidood are the top posters showing the most interest. They need to recruit on & off the board to create a group of initial contributors. Then everyone in that group needs to say what kind of contributions they would be interested in making. From there they could identify the common thread to come up with a unifying theme, and the domain would follow from that.
Date: February 4th, 2011 2:19 PM Author: Rebellious Travel Guidebook
top posters doesn't mean much outside the context of XO. nobody really cares how well you can spin a whokebian story when reading a blog about issues in society from a youth perspective
while i don't necessary agree with how they view things, posters like :D and TBF are the best candidates, as their straightforward but amusing and typically well-reasoned writing (when :D isn't spewing pure flame anyway) are the most likely to resonate with an audience reading this type of blog.
Date: February 4th, 2011 2:27 PM Author: histrionic navy base nowag
If the blog didn't have any XO flavor it would be pointless. If you just want generic "issues in society from a youth perspective" go put up some faggy craigslist ad saying "Hey guys, who wants to join my new blog?"
Date: February 4th, 2011 2:28 PM Author: Rebellious Travel Guidebook
there's a difference between xo flavor in the :D and narrowly-defined "top posters" sense. i'm sorry but nobody is going to give a fuck about a solzy post in a blog man.
Date: February 4th, 2011 2:34 PM Author: histrionic navy base nowag
Doesn't really matter if you think attidood or :D is better suited. The principle remains that having someone with no creative skin in the game controlling the blog from the outset is a non-starter, and this will only happen if a group of posters with mutual respect jump in together. Having some web administrator define the subject and theme of the blog and then recruiting writers is backwards as fuck.
my goal is just to set up the platform. i already disclaimed any editorial responsibilities. i'm just trying to direct the discussion bro. i know i'm not even close to the best suited to the job in terms of defining content.
Date: February 4th, 2011 2:29 PM Author: histrionic navy base nowag
This isn't the first time that a thread like this has been started. This one is getting more attention than they do on average, but so far wrassler hasn't started shit (again, no offense). The only thing giving this project any potential is that two good writers with the XO flair have shown interest.
Date: February 4th, 2011 2:31 PM Author: Rebellious Travel Guidebook
you're placing way too much importance in "top posters" as being the only people who are worthwhile. your definition of top posters is limited to a pretty fucking narrow definition of good writers; in fact, i'd say people like scott walker are actually way worse at politically minded writing than posters such as TBF or a lot of the less "creative" xoers, even if his other posts are more entertaining to read. this isn't a fucking literary arts blog.
Date: February 4th, 2011 2:39 PM Author: histrionic navy base nowag
"this isn't a fucking literary arts blog."
LOL, who the fuck said? You? Check the thread and you'll see that some people are thinking that this is a blog just about how boomers fucked the later generations over economically, and some think it extends to how the boomers fucked the later generations over generally, and some think it's even broader than that. Some think that it's a blog to bitch, some think it's a blog about political action, and some think it's a blog about cultural rebirth. Depending on the interests of potential contributors, it could be any or all things of these things. That's why you've got to figure out the contributors, then figure out the exact theme and content, and then get the rest organized.
hey now, i can at least post links like a motherfucker. if there's an anti-boomer story out there, i'll find it and it'll go on the site (well, i'll split this duty with :D).
Date: February 4th, 2011 2:16 PM Author: Titillating apoplectic son of senegal
I'm have "thesoleless.com" and I'm going to set up a WordPress site. If attidood, wrassler, and gooddood want admin rights, just send an email to thesoleless@gmail.com.
Date: February 4th, 2011 2:17 PM Author: Transparent razzmatazz dopamine background story
now all we need are people to commit large scale acts of vandalism and banksy-esque graffiti referencing the fuck boomers meme and this site and this will be fucking huge
Alright, before this becomes dead in the water, how about we decide on a principle outline or "fact" sheet that'll be available immediately to whoever visits the site. This will list all of the grievances that the younger generations should have against the boomers and the policies, that way everyone immediately knows where we're coming from. Then maybe these things can even be partitioned so that individual blog posts will relate back to the ideas.
Something like:
-Entitlement spending and why it is screwing us
-Current state of tuition prices and non-dischargeable loans
-unemployment and underemployment
-Union practices that shit on new people entering the field
for most things, the name isn't important -- but for this it definitely deserves some thought.
something like dead on the vine is too morbid -- we'll look like a bunch of emo faggots.
youthanize is bad for the reason rasqie never came in here
i agree it has to be edgy, but pushing it too far lowers your readership and credibility (who wants to get caught reading "YOUTHANIZE.COM: F#$K OLDS" or refer it to a friend / link on facebook)
Date: February 4th, 2011 2:53 PM Author: Rough-skinned coffee pot
in many ways i think the basic xo style is desirable in its minimalism. taking theme #1 and reducing it even further. across the top think an unordered list of links for
law bort - digest - blawg - etc - etc
digest could be something akin to tumblr, blawg for screeds, law bort is the law bort. i haven't skimmed through this thread in its whole, i'm sure there are gems of recommendations.
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:08 PM Author: Garnet Stain Brunch
Here's my structural proposal: attidood, solzy, and Greetings get to decide shit. If people like wrassler and whoever else want to get in on reserving domains, etc., that's fine, but they're runners. Greetings has the tech side, attidood and solzy have the content side. But all decisions start with unanimous approval from all three. If this triumvirate fails, two of them can complain and we'll fuck the third in the ass.
i don't want to "get in" on shit. i'm setting it up. have you not done something like this before?
heavy handed top-down leadership is what launched xoxo from PR in the first place. the only reason this place has thrived is because of rach's hands off attitude. i'm sorry, but your idea is dumb.
we need an editor or two to manage the content and maybe assign topics that aren't getting covered organically, we need a general direction, and that's it. then you figure shit out as you go along.
I appreciate the big ups, but this wasn't my idea so I wouldn't feel right hijacking it. I would love to be involved in creating content and editing/management on some level, but I cant steal the concept from the OG's, I showed up when the idea was already born.
Date: February 4th, 2011 8:40 PM Author: dull beady-eyed menage french chef
I've been away all day doing shit, but I figured I'd throw one more idea about name out before we move any further. Just can't in all good faith not say this URL idea: