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Romney: My Dad Was A Millionaire Governor, But I'm Self-Made
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:16 PM Author: Laughsome Menage My hard work and intelligence are the only reasons for my success. *blank stare* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405762) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:20 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital Yeah bro, Bain Capital just appeared out of thin air. How many $60 Billion multi-strategy asset management firms have you founded? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405781) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:22 PM Author: Laughsome Menage None. Because my dad was an abusive drunk, not a millionaire governor. But I'm sure that being the son of a millionaire governor had nothing to do with Romney's success.
*blank stare* |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:24 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital LOL. That must be why every child of well to do parents grows up to be a resounding success.
*Crickets* |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:37 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Was that what I said? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405897) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:47 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital JFC YOU ARE DUMB. You are like my dog who steals the steak off the counter and then looks at me like "what? what did I do?". You imply that the ONLY reason Mitt Romney is successful is because he came from wealth, and that hard work and intelligence had nothing to do with his success. And as history shows, being born to wealthy parents is not a prerequisite for being successful in life. Did Mitt have advantages over other? Of Course. But to claim that Mitt got to were he is today only because of daddy's largesse is laughable at best. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405960) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:52 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Holy shit, are you incapable of reading? Where did I say that hard work and intelligence had nothing to do with Romney's success?
I am saying that he would not have been as successful without his father's money and connections. How the fuck do you think he was able to avoid the draft, you faggot? |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:00 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital "Where did I say that hard work and intelligence had nothing to do with Romney's success?"
I don't think you understand the meaning of "imply"
You just don't want to admit that Romney is intelligent and hardworking and got to where he is based on those attributes. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:01 PM Author: Laughsome Menage You are saying he got to where he was SOLELY because he is intelligent and hardworking? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406055) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:09 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital I'd say his family and money got him to a certain point, but he graduated near the top of his class at BYU, more than qualified for admission to HLS/HBS based on his own merits, and fucking pwned at BCG and Bain. I'm saying that more than anything, Romney's intelligence and hard work are responsible for his success. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406100) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:12 PM Author: Laughsome Menage I'm saying he isn't purely self-made—his dad helped him out, he had teachers and shit who helped him out. So going after Obama for saying that no man is an island is just bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406116) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:16 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital See now you're changing your tune "he isn't purely self made". SO what if his dad helped him out? My dad has loaned me money before, but Mitt didn't take any money from Dad to start Bain, he also donated his inheritance to BYU when his father died in 97. "He had teachers help him out and shit"?? What the fuck dude, are you really so spiteful that you can't admit that Romney is intelligent in his own right? You sound like you have a serious chip on your shoulder and think that businesses as successful as Bain just fall out of thin air. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406139) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:19 PM Author: Laughsome Menage You guys think that hard work and intelligence is enough. It isn't. That's all I'm saying. Read my OP:
Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:16 PM Author: froodfrood ( )
My hard work and intelligence are the only reasons for my success. *blank stare*
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2# |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:22 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital Wow brother, just wow. You honestly believe that no one can be successful if they aren't born into privilege? You should probably tell EVERY FUCKING IMMIGRANT WHO CAME TO THIS COUNTRY. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406176) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:11 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Is that what I said? No, it isn't. I said that hard work and intelligence isn't enough. Immigrants all work hard and are intelligent. But they rely on family and their neighbors to set them up with loans. Welfare and food stamps at the start. Etc. Are you saying Romney is a million times smarter than these guys?
Would Romney be successful had he been born in Pakistan? |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:14 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital Under your definition, NOBODY is a self made man.
"Immigrants all work hard and are intelligent"
WHAT!!!???? Holy shit I don't know how you function IRL if you are this willfully ignorant.
"Would Romney be successful had he been born in Pakistan?"
My god you are king of the blatantly obvious strawman.
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:20 PM Author: Laughsome Menage You are saying that Romney would be successful no matter what because he works hard and is intelligent. So drop him off in Pakistan. What result?
I'm saying his dad helped him out and very few people are truly self made. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:29 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital Holy shit. Romney is successful, I attribute his success to hard work and intelligence. That is all I am saying. Just being intelligent or hard working does not guarantee success in life, but neither does being born into wealth. I'll grant you that it is politically stupid for Romney to call himself "self-made" but it isn't like he had a choice in the matter to be born into a well-off family. He made the most of every opportunity he had in life and created one of the the most successful financial firms ever. We should celebrate this. You seem to wish Romney had flunked out of college, lived a life of decadence and debauchery, and died young of a heroin overdose. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406717) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:35 PM Author: Violet Crackhouse "I'll grant you that it is stupid for Romney to call himself 'self-made'"
well, okay then -- thread over? |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:37 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital Sure, I'll give you time to go ice your GAPED ANUS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406784) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:38 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Look at the thread title. You agree with it. How are you not the person who got gasped? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406795) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:39 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital Because your implication was that hardwork and intelligence were not the reason for Romney's success. Which we have shown, they were. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406815) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:42 PM Author: Laughsome Menage That's not the implication, you moron. For someone who wines about straw man you really like them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406834) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:44 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:20 PM
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Yeah bro, Bain Capital just appeared out of thin air. How many $60 Billion multi-strategy asset management firms have you founded?
Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:22 PM
Author: froodfrood ( )
None. Because my dad was an abusive drunk, not a millionaire governor. But I'm sure that being the son of a millionaire governor had nothing to do with Romney's success.
*blank stare*
That is exactly what you are saying. I assume that you think of yourself as an intelligent and hardworking person?
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:46 PM Author: Laughsome Menage The point was that you can be smart and hard working but without the connections, you can't do Bain, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406895) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:52 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital LOL. Your claims just get more outlandish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Dubin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Kovner
There are plenty of very successful wall street financiers that came from modest backgrounds. Hell one of these doods attended a SUNY State School!! (Doobs there is hope for you YET!) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:54 PM Author: Laughsome Menage I was talking about Romney. Why couldn't I do Bain despite being smart and hard-working? Because my dad want a rich governor, faggot. I (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406988) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:56 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital Your argument basically boils down to you being jelly that some people are more successful than you. Your claim that successful wall street types only come from wealthy backgrounds has been proven totally false.
GAPED I tell ya GAPED |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 9:55 PM Author: Violet Crackhouse non-OP here. ROFL at you parading a victory when you were the one defending Romney's claim that he's "self-made," not to mention you later outright admitting that it was stupid for him to say it. No matter whether you got frood to trip over his words -- if you even did -- your asshole is as wide as can be broham. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21407547) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 10:00 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital LOL, holy shit, I never SAID any such thing about Romney being self-made, just pointing out the OP's absurdly tight definition of it and the OPs stupid claim that Mitt was only successful because of Daddy. But thanks for stopping by!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21407584) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:37 PM Author: Laughsome Menage That's all I was saying. God, it's like pulling teeth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406786) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 10:01 PM Author: Claret nighttime brunch scourge upon the earth this right here is a perfect illustration of the total lack of subtlety in reptile brains.
yeah fagot, because he said that Romney had an advantage due to being born in the Lap of wealth and privilege he is ALSO saying that is the ONLY factor in his success.
LOL at reptiles. everything is black or white with you manichean idiots. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:58 PM Author: Fantasy-prone stain Only a significantly greater percentage growing up to be a resounding success than children of non-millionaire non-connected parents still establishes his point. Do you deny that almost any set of "resounding success stories" will feature mostly protagonists who grew up having better economic and cultural resources at their disposal? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406440) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:48 PM Author: vibrant associate friendly grandma "That must be why every child of well to do parents grows up to be a resounding success."
This is one example of why argument by sarcasm is complete shit.
The argument is that parental support and connection has a strong positive influence, not that they are entirely determinative of future success. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:26 PM Author: Onyx know-it-all clown This is bullshit. You guys have to makeup your minds. If Romney owes much of his success to his father, than why was he so desperate to get startup funds that he had to go the shady south americans which libtards like to declare are drug cartels?
Face it, the dude went off on his own with a couple buddies and built a multi-billion dollar empire.
The extent to which you would need to stretch the definition of someone not being self-made in order for it to encompass Romney would mean basically all of us are not self-made. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:35 PM Author: razzle territorial spot word. da dude obviously was born with a silver spoon in mouth, but it seems to have driven him to live up to/exceed his daddy rather than just trust fund out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405883) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:37 PM Author: Laughsome Menage You don't think his dad's connections got him into Harvard, dodge the draft, and make connections? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405893) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:47 PM Author: unhinged white coldplay fan dude finished #1 at his college bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405956) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:50 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Link?
How about the draft? Or business connections?
EDIT: He did very well in college and HBS. But what about the draft? |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:47 PM Author: curious theatre wrinkle is that what allowed him to take a 3-year all-expenses paid vacation in france during the vietnam war (the war he advocated for even while vacationing in france to avoid the draft)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406351) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:53 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital You realize he didn't actually "avoid the draft". He was given a high draft lottery number in 1969 and got lucky. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406397) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:56 PM Author: Laughsome Menage After four deferments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21407006) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:50 PM Author: vibrant associate friendly grandma "You don't think his dad's connections got him into Harvard, dodge the draft, and make connections?"
Probably helped.
No, that was a Mormon mission.
Yes. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:36 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Don't put words in my mouth. So it is your position that being the son of millionaire governor did not help Romney, and that he could have founded Bain even if were the half-nig spawn of some Kenyan? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405890) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:39 PM Author: metal rigpig pisswyrm Barack Obama graduated from two TTTs, never held a real job, was a nobody at law school without any real connections and couldn't have gotten Biglaw or a comparable job even if he'd wanted it
*blank stare* |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:40 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Stop changing the subject. Do you support the notion that being the son of a millionaire governor didn't help Romney become a millionaire governor? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405917) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:41 PM Author: Onyx know-it-all clown On some basic level we are all products of our parents, upbringing, social context, etc. The point is that we have to retain some reasonable definition of "self-made" for it to have any meaning at all. All I am saying is that the bulk of Mitt's achievements can be traced directly to his hard work and intelligence, not to his father or wealth.
Obama was a "half-nig spawn of some kenyan" and yet managed to accomplish what he did. Imagine Romney, who is as smart (if not smarter) and about 10x as hard working in the same situation and what he could accomplish. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:44 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Again, you have this Randian viewpoint that success is based only on intelligence and hard work. That is far from true. There are really smart guys who work really hard who are not successful, such as the Unabomber.
Are you saying that his father's connections and wealth didn't get him into Harvard, didn't get him exempted from the draft, and didn't get him his connections to get started? Are you saying that those are true, but that they were necessary for his success?
You are deluded if you think so. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:46 PM Author: Onyx know-it-all clown You take a look at what Harvard's entrance requirements were 20-30 years ago? Plus, someone like Mitt is not going to suddenly stop being a success if he went to Cornell instead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405951) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:47 PM Author: Laughsome Menage And Romney would have been a billionaire even if he were killed in Vietnam? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405961) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:48 PM Author: metal rigpig pisswyrm He was a Mormon missionary, i believe he qualified for a religious exemption (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405967) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:55 PM Author: Laughsome Menage That were handed out selectively by the Mormon Church. Do you really think that Romney got it without his father's interference? Or that he would be able to get a college deferment if his daddy didn't pay for his education, or pay for his years in France as a missionary? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406005) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:02 PM Author: metal rigpig pisswyrm Are you saying that applying for missionary work was a selective process? Didn't know that. But if not ... well it seems obvious to me that Romney's religion saved him from Vietnam as the actual deferment would be automatic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406060) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:04 PM Author: Laughsome Menage The Mormon Church was in favor of the war, and clamped down on the number of missionary deferments they issued. You couldn't just say you were a missionary and get a deferment.
A poor kid who couldn't afford college, or couldn't afford to go work as a missionary in France for two years would have been stuck in Vietnam, even if you ignore the fact that Romney's dad got him the religious deferment. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:08 PM Author: metal rigpig pisswyrm Well IIRC he got his deferment in 1966, and the church clamped down on deferments after a lawsuit in early 1969 - at that point Mitt drew a low lottery number and headed off to BYU. Not a whole lot daddy could do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406094) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:08 PM Author: Laughsome Menage That seems accurate. Cynical me assumed otherwise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406502) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:47 PM Author: metal rigpig pisswyrm Clearly his father's connections got him into HBS. The rest was Romney's to make - and he certainly did a good job of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405958) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:49 PM Author: Laughsome Menage At least you're being kind of a realist. But did Romney avoid the draft because of his dad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405971) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:38 PM Author: Wonderful Sepia Library Dog Poop you realize that Bain Capital simply leveraged the Bain Consulting name and connects right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405903) |
Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:37 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy meetinghouse ratface I just hate him now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405898) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:40 PM Author: Stirring chartreuse orchestra pit haunted graveyard It is really hard to get funding and start a business when you are the son of a Gov who ran for POTUS.
Just look at Tagg Romney. Dood cannot raise like 50 million for his own fund even though he has MASSIVE Wall STreet experience. Poor kid. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:44 PM Author: Onyx know-it-all clown Retard, if Mitt had to go to South American drug lords to get funding, what do you think that says about either his dad's connections or willingness to use them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405943) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:46 PM Author: Laughsome Menage No one except from you is saying he went there to get funding. Have fun destroying straw men while the grownups have a serious discussion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405949) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:47 PM Author: Onyx know-it-all clown You can read right? You realize what this post is saying (both explicitly and implicitly)?
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:40 PM Author: Turdskin Returns
It is really hard to get funding and start a business when you are the son of a Gov who ran for POTUS.
Just look at Tagg Romney. Dood cannot raise like 50 million for his own fund even though he has MASSIVE Wall STreet experience. Poor kid.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405916) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:56 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Yeah, he is saying the Romney courted Latin American criminals. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406013) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:52 PM Author: Stirring chartreuse orchestra pit haunted graveyard The SoAmerican drug lords crap is BS. He got most of his money from his dad's friends. His entire career is based off his dad, just like faggot Taggs now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405993) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:56 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Yeah. I don't know what these guys are smoking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406016) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:42 PM Author: shivering shitlib fortuitous meteor Just borrow $25,000 from your parents and start a sandwich shop, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405930) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:46 PM Author: Laughsome Menage *pays for college by selling stock his daddy gave him* *declares himself a self-made man* |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:53 PM Author: exciting bisexual cuckoldry step-uncle's house *would be able to pay with summer job if libtards hadnt made college so expensive* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21405996) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:57 PM Author: thriller clear indirect expression locus Subject: Ever play Pikewood National In Morgantown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406024) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:53 PM Author: carmine bateful house mediation *drives to dad's house to pick up his shares of stock*
*sips scotch after a long-hard day of work* |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:52 PM Author: vibrant associate friendly grandma "*sips scotch after a long-hard day of work*"
They're Mormon. They probably did non-alcoholic Jello shots. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:58 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Romney avoided the draft by using a college deferment, then spent time as a Mormon missionary in France. Question: without his daddy's money, would he be able to pay for college in order to get a deferment? and would he be able to get a missionary deferment when the Mormon Church clamped down on them? and would he have been able to pay for his own missionary work in France by himself? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406035) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:01 PM Author: Gold station my dad's his same age. at that time, you could work while you were in school and pay for yourself to attend without any scholarships (loans weren't really a thing), which is what my dad did. so that one's out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406056) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:04 PM Author: metal rigpig pisswyrm He got a deferment just before the Mormon church clamped down on them, and then drew a low lottery number. Looks like he just got lucky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406075) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:05 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Yeah, lucky because his dad paid for his living expenses while he was a missionary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406082) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:55 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital *Ignores fact that Romney made himself available for draft*
*Ignores fact that Romney received high draft number* |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:12 PM Author: Laughsome Menage After four deferments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406549) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:16 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital Which anyone in the Mormon church or who attended college were entitled too. Not exactly things that were only available to the rich. Bill Clinton was apparently "dirt poor" but managed to go to Yale, Oxford, Yale Law and get enough deferments to avoid the draft completely. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406591) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:21 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Because he was brilliant enough to get scholarships. You know, he was a Rhodes scholar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406647) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:32 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital But I thought only rich people could go to college and get deferments? Have you been lying in this thread froodshit? How did Bill get into Yale if his Daddy wasn't rich? GASP, you mean he was actually INTELLIGENT and WORKED HARD???? Oh Noes!!!!!!
LOL PWNED |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 9:06 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Thanks for agreeing that Romney isn't self made and Clinton was. Reptile maf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21407089) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 9:09 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:20 PM
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Yeah bro, Bain Capital just appeared out of thin air. How many $60 Billion multi-strategy asset management firms have you founded?
Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:22 PM
Author: froodfrood ( )
None. Because my dad was an abusive drunk, not a millionaire governor. But I'm sure that being the son of a millionaire governor had nothing to do with Romney's success.
*blank stare*
That wasn't the point you were trying to make froodshit. |
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Date: August 30th, 2012 9:00 AM Author: twisted personal credit line Clinton went to georgetown ugrad, not yale. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21457033) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:06 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Is anyone saying that Romney got to where he was SOLELY because of his hard work and intelligence? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406086) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:09 PM Author: chestnut house-broken hall pocket flask Quick! We must hastily disqualify from the presidency all who had advantages when they were young! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406102) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:11 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Did I say that? I'm pointing out the idiocy of claiming that he is self-made when he is, in fact, not self-made.
Do you think the sole reason Romney is where he is is because of his intelligence and hard work? |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:12 PM Author: metal rigpig pisswyrm I'm not sure even CGM thinks that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406118) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:15 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Haha. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406136) |
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Date: August 24th, 2012 12:35 AM Author: adulterous water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21409578) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:12 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital LOL. I come from a modest background, but my parents paid for my education. Does that mean I'm not entitled to call myself a "self-made man" when I become a huge success? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406120) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:13 PM Author: Laughsome Menage You can call yourself whatever you want. But it'll be dishonest if you said that your parents didn't contribute to your success. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406127) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:37 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital In that case NO ONE is a self-made man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406296) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:54 PM Author: carmine bateful house mediation someone who's parents/family clearly were a negative influence would be able to claim this. bill clinton probably has the best claim of the recent presidents. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406404) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:55 PM Author: Violet Crackhouse jesus, really? taken in the aggregate, who knows. it's hard to parse out exactly what allows someone to say they're "self-made." one thing's for sure though: to a reasonable person, the son of a millionaire governor should not use the term "self-made." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406416) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:21 PM Author: Crimson set I love how you can see froodfrood's assertion about the family benefits Romney received get whittled away to just things that a standard upper middle class family could afford. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406169) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:49 PM Author: curious theatre wrinkle flame? he just put on a clinic in this thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406367) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:56 PM Author: Crimson set Are you kidding? He started off by suggesting that being a millionaire governor was what did it. Later in the thread his claims were much more minimal: "Romney avoided the draft by using a college deferment, then spent time as a Mormon missionary in France. Question: without his daddy's money, would he be able to pay for college in order to get a deferment? and would he be able to get a missionary deferment when the Mormon Church clamped down on them? and would he have been able to pay for his own missionary work in France by himself?" Those family benefits are accessible to a huge number of people. He was only able to "win" by massively scaling down his claims. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:56 PM Author: carmine bateful house mediation this doesn't contradict his point. that's more along the gwb line that everything he got was handed to him by daddy. FF point is more nuanced. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406427) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:57 PM Author: Crimson set FF's point is "nuanced" in the sense that it changes almost as rapidly as Romney's political views. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406435) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:59 PM Author: carmine bateful house mediation the OP is pretty simple, romney can't claim to have risen 100% on his own. he had, at the least, the help and connections of an UMC family.
whether romney ever actually claimed that, idk. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:01 PM Author: Crimson set Except that's not the OP. FF starts out by saying being a millionaire governor was what allowed Willard's dad to offer substantial benefits to his son. Later on, he's saying it was by being upper middle class or higher. That's a huge change in terms of how many people have access to those benefits. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:03 PM Author: carmine bateful house mediation Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:16 PM Author: froodfrood ( )
My hard work and intelligence are the only reasons for my success. *blank stare*
That's the OP. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:05 PM Author: Crimson set What do you think he's implying was the real reason for that success? The thread title and FF's second post make it pretty clear. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406482) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:18 PM Author: Violet Crackhouse his point is that his dad's status as a millionaire governor conferred upon him advantages that regular kids don't have, and hence he shouldn't call himself "self made." it's not a difficult concept.
if you don't have a gut reaction to LOL when you hear Mitt Romney say he's self-made, then you probably have asperger's or some other social problem. like mitt! |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:20 PM Author: Crimson set My point is that it wasn't millionaire governor status that gave Mitt those privileges; it was upper middle class or higher status. To most xoers, that's something that "regular" kids do have. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406625) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:22 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Are you nuts? Bush's dad being president didn't help him become president? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406651) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:31 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital WE"RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BUSH. BUT THANKS FOR TRYING TO MOVE THE GOALPOSTS AFTER GETTING PWNED ALL OVER THIS THREAD. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406727) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:36 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Uh, you're the dude getting Pwned. But you can't apply Romney's principle to Bush. I wonder why. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406778) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:38 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital I fully admit that bush benefited WAY more from his Parents status than Romney did. Romney legitimately built a business from scratch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406808) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:45 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Gates built his company from scratch. But his family was rich and he was able to get access to one of the first computers in America as a high school student in his private school. Can you say he was self made? Yes. But did his parents wealth help? Yes. So we shouldn't be so quick to say the rich are where they are only because they are smart and hard working. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406868) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 9:10 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital Holy shit that is the most intellectually dishonest thing I have ever read. After you say Romney can't call himself self-made because his parents were wealthy, you turn around and call Bill Gates, who you admit had advantages other children did not based on his families wealth, self made?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21407126) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 9:12 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21407143) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 9:25 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:45 PM Author: froodfrood ( )
Gates built his company from scratch. But his family was rich and he was able to get access to one of the first computers in America as a high school student in his private school. Can you say he was self made? Yes. But did his parents wealth help? Yes. So we shouldn't be so quick to say the rich are where they are only because they are smart and hard working. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:32 PM Author: Violet Crackhouse what a bizarre assertion. why would you assume that romney's dad's status as a millionaire governor played no role beyond, say, about $150k a year? and that's purely economic, putting no merit on the *status* one holds as a freaking state governor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406746) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:09 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:20 PM Author: ,.,,,;,..,;,;,.,.,;:.;:;:,..,...,:,.,;::,;...,..
Yeah bro, Bain Capital just appeared out of thin air. How many $60 Billion multi-strategy asset management firms have you founded?
Date: August 23rd, 2012 6:22 PM Author: froodfrood ( )
None. Because my dad was an abusive drunk, not a millionaire governor. But I'm sure that being the son of a millionaire governor had nothing to do with Romney's success.
*blank stare*
Yeah bro OP totally doesn't think that Romney's father is the sole reason for his success.
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:40 PM Author: Laughsome Menage I don't. His intelligence and his dad were both responsible. It is nuts for anyone too say he was self made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406818) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:46 PM Author: Galvanic dull hospital That is exactly what you implied there. Don't fucking deny it. You assume that the only reason mitt was successful was because Daddy was rich. Unless of course you think that you are stupid and lazy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406888) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:47 PM Author: Laughsome Menage You are retarded and crazed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406915) |
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Date: August 30th, 2012 8:51 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle den Nobody can claim 100%. There is always luck and chance and people who help etc.
So does that mean that nobody can use the term "self-made" ?? No. It's a matter of degree. All things considered, Romney can easily use the term self-made. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:23 PM Author: Mauve vivacious trust fund The bigger issue is that Romney was guaranteed from birth at the every least a very good lot in life, yet he and the GOP advocate for policies that by definition mean that some Americans will end up poor, without healthcare, etc.
Idunno, that seems pretty fucked up to me. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:36 PM Author: chestnut house-broken hall pocket flask Maybe you believe those policies, by definition, mean that some Americans will end up poor, but the GOP ideals are based on simple principles of economics that may not work in such a complex world.
The basic premise is that each worker, through the market with the aid of new technologies, can make more than enough stuff to accommodate one person. In theory, if the economy is efficient, everyone will have more than they need. This is obviously true in the aggregate, but some people have hundreds of times more than they need.
That said, there is a difference between seeking to eliminate all barriers to economic success and building a metaphorical escalator to "success" as defined by the state. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:39 PM Author: Mauve vivacious trust fund "In theory, if the economy is efficient, everyone will have more than they need."
Explain how a completely free market will make life better for the unwed mother with 2 kids who's working min. wage. |
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Date: August 24th, 2012 10:41 AM Author: chestnut house-broken hall pocket flask I don't necessarily think it will. As I said, the ideal may not work in such a complex world. In theory, a more free market would allow that mother with 2 kids more opportunities to start her own business, work from home if she wants, hire employees, make money off her employees, buy property, make money off tenants, write and sell books, etc.
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 7:51 PM Author: curious theatre wrinkle so are you ok with the lack of a free market for educational loans, and you're ok with romney wanting to maintain those market inefficiencies while profiting privately on the back end? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406380) |
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Date: August 24th, 2012 10:42 AM Author: chestnut house-broken hall pocket flask I'm not really arguing that, no.
Educational loans are so screwed up though. The current structure is the primary reason tuition is rising so fast.
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:18 PM Author: Laughsome Menage Republicans can get away with this because we are fascinated by guys who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. The corollary is that if you fail, then you didn't work hard enough. Hence, people on welfare should be punished and demeaned by drug tests.
look at the reptilian response to this thread. Romney's dad had nothing to do with his success, which they claim is solely the result of his intelligence and hard work. |
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Date: August 30th, 2012 8:55 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle den What policies are those? Did someone propose getting rid of medicaid?
No. You are either making things up or you are an extremely stupid blind sheep repeating stuff you read in the huffpo comment section. |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 8:47 PM Author: glittery bawdyhouse cuckold this seems like it would be a really terrible thread to read. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21406901) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 9:06 PM Author: Laughsome Menage It is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21407092) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 9:08 PM Author: Drunken hairraiser school Open Gangnam Style (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21407109) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2012 9:17 PM Author: rambunctious floppy wagecucks So beta (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21407184) |
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Date: August 24th, 2012 1:26 AM Author: massive ultramarine stag film Sure Mitts father probably gave him access to bros most of us don't have. However, it was up to him to actually use what he had and build it. Successful entrepreneurs take what life gives them and make it into some worthwhile. Whether daddy has connections or not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21410135) |
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Date: August 24th, 2012 10:38 AM Author: Titillating puppy pretty much. I doubt he would have ended up much different if had been from some random middle class mormon family. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21411471) |
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Date: August 30th, 2012 8:52 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle den Nobody can claim that they are 100% self made in a very literal sense. There is always luck and chance and people who help you etc.
So does that mean that nobody can use the term "self-made" ?? No, you fuking aspie, that's not even what he meant. It's a matter of degree. All things considered, Romney can easily use the term self-made. |
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Date: August 30th, 2012 8:54 AM Author: Onyx know-it-all clown This. We all have our surroundings to thank for what we become, but if you manage to go from X position to X++++ through hardwork and smarts, you are self-made, even if your original "X" was high. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21457022) |
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Date: August 30th, 2012 8:53 AM Author: provocative shimmering preventive strike gunner *knows nobody rich*
*assumes all rich scions start billion-dollar private equity funds*
*is a moron* |
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Date: September 5th, 2012 1:29 PM Author: curious theatre wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2030920&forum_id=2#21502754) |