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"Keep on Loving You" illustrates the diseased cuckold mind.

Cuckoldry is the logical endpoint of beta supplication (i.e....
Chrome theatre indirect expression
  03/23/13
nice. cue reo on youtube
chestnut shivering library
  03/23/13
They made the power ballad an art form. They also have incr...
Chrome theatre indirect expression
  03/23/13
they aren't all pussy songs, but there are enough which one...
chestnut shivering library
  03/23/13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmo36gnUCWE
Chrome theatre indirect expression
  03/23/13
i fear that this analysis may suffer from a logocentric lacu...
Massive aphrodisiac clown
  03/23/13
180
odious church fortuitous meteor
  03/23/13
There was no sexual encounter in the first place.
Chrome theatre indirect expression
  03/23/13
this is one reading of the text, perhaps from an aspie virgi...
Massive aphrodisiac clown
  03/23/13
The "love" is obsession and completely ironic. I ...
Chrome theatre indirect expression
  03/23/13
"All science would be superfluous if the outward appear...
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"[Genius] cannot indicate scientifically how it brings ...
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180 my nilla
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  03/23/13
what other bands do you like bro?
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The Eagles Coldplay Bon Jovi For soloists, Mike Old...
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Is writing stuff like this what you do instead of gettin cru...
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they specialize in cuck songs. Heard it from a friend w...
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I've thought long and hard about this rating. 180
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I like REO Speedwagon.
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Holy shit. We have regressed a lot.
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No, pbc was just on another level
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cr bros, it's me again.
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Date: March 23rd, 2013 4:52 PM
Author: Chrome theatre indirect expression

Cuckoldry is the logical endpoint of beta supplication (i.e., beta for aspies). No Nietzsche, but betas use submissive displays as a coercive tactic. REO Speedwagon, probably the single greatest band of the modern era, illustrates this violent irony in their hit single, "Keep on Loving You." I'll confine my remarks to the lyrics, although future researchers may want to explore the harmonic echoes of Bach and Wagner, as well as the potent archetypes found in the music video.

"Keep on Loving You" begins with an accusation. "You should have seen by the look in my eye, baby..." etc. The beta male, afraid of direct masculine expression, uses female intuition as a weapon. He can't lead the relationship, so he foists blame onto the woman. The words get progressively more violent, until we reach the cuckold point: "And though I know all about those men, still I don't remember..." Notice that unlike the true cuck, the beta isn't even willing to acknowledge his desire for the bull. He pleads amnesia. There's also the clever verbal trick of eluding whose men these are. Normal heterosexuals probably think the woman has cheated, but the ambiguous lyrics leave open the interpretation that the beta is a closeted faggot.

The lead up to the chorus is just fucking brilliant. "And I meant every word I said..." No, he didn't. Listen carefully. "When I said that I loved you, I meant that I loved you forever." Like the pigs in Animal Farm who tack nasty conditions to their laws, the beta's avowals always carry an implied proviso, entirely of his own making. "Forever" is the word he didn't say, but it's the word with which, like an avenging Fury, he'll saddle this poor woman for the entire song.

At the chorus, the narrator blossoms into full-blown obsession and insanity. He refuses to sleep, he has only this singular obsession. REO Speedwagon stretches Dante's cliche to its uttermost limit.

Unlike most songs that try a new stanza between choruses, "Keep on Loving You" repeats it to the end. Because there is nothing after obsession for the beta male. He can only softly fade away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868181)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 4:54 PM
Author: chestnut shivering library

nice.

cue reo on youtube

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868193)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:00 PM
Author: Chrome theatre indirect expression

They made the power ballad an art form. They also have incredible psychological depth, writing about cuckolds, closeted gays, cads, and other models of failed masculinity. But there's a penumbra, formed by emanations of these lyrics, where you can see all the glory of true virile masculinity (and communicated tonally throughout all their work). I don't think there's been a more profound comment on the decline of Western civilization since the end of Vietnam.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868226)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:08 PM
Author: chestnut shivering library

they aren't all pussy songs, but there are enough

which one is about closeted gays?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868276)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:16 PM
Author: Chrome theatre indirect expression

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmo36gnUCWE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868309)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:08 PM
Author: Massive aphrodisiac clown

i fear that this analysis may suffer from a logocentric lacuna, trapped within the text. looking at REO Speedwagon's lyrics instead as a unit in a (gendered) semiotic framework, it represents the rebuttal of a former sexual partner's attempted rejection of a repeat encounter. the song recasts the traditional "booty call" framework into a language more appealing to female-gendered sexual calculations

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868275)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:16 PM
Author: odious church fortuitous meteor

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868310)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:19 PM
Author: Chrome theatre indirect expression

There was no sexual encounter in the first place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868320)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:26 PM
Author: Massive aphrodisiac clown

this is one reading of the text, perhaps from an aspie virginal worldview, viewing it as a 'doobsian' paean to the girl next door with whom the author presumably has never spoken.

in an understanding rooted in heterosexual, cisnormative promiscuity (betraying perhaps my 'prole' origins), the intersubjectivity of the lyrics between the singer and the intended recipient assumes a previous sexual encounter - otherwise, whither love?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868353)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:36 PM
Author: Chrome theatre indirect expression

The "love" is obsession and completely ironic. I hate to plead music video here, but bro, music video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-j32y4cbzw

Like a typical leftist prole, you're vaguely associating stuff you heard from dudes who read a Wikipedia article and smearing pseudo-Lacanian bullshit to hide your tracks. The fact is, you have the wrong song. You're thinking of "Take It on the Run", where the narrator's careless take-it-or-leave-it attitude is more compatible with promiscuity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868402)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 6:16 PM
Author: Massive aphrodisiac clown

"All science would be superfluous if the outward appearance and the essence of things directly coincided."

-Karl Marx, Capital v.III (1894)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868648)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 11:44 PM
Author: Chrome theatre indirect expression

"[Genius] cannot indicate scientifically how it brings about its product, but rather gives the rule as nature. Hence, where an author owes a product to his genius, he does not himself know how the ideas for it have entered into his head, nor has he it in his power to invent the like at pleasure, or methodically, and communicate the same to others in such precepts as would put them in a position to produce similar products. (Hence, presumably, our word Genie is derived from genius, as the peculiar guardian and guiding spirit given to a man at his birth, by the inspiration of which those original ideas were obtained.)."

-Immanuel Kant, Critique of Judgement (1790)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22870412)



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Date: March 30th, 2013 5:55 PM
Author: tan violent dragon

this exchange is the best thing that happened on xo in at least 3 years. 1motherfucking80.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22907737)



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Date: January 2nd, 2014 10:59 PM
Author: floppy gay wizard

dear god im glad this was bumped

ljfuckingl at academia - this exchange isnt even far-fetched. masterful work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#24760453)



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Date: August 1st, 2018 11:30 PM
Author: Navy Fluffy Menage



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Date: January 18th, 2019 4:12 PM
Author: bearded cruel-hearted queen of the night



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Date: April 8th, 2014 9:33 PM
Author: Histrionic Avocado Garrison



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:42 PM
Author: French narrow-minded sanctuary boltzmann

180 my nilla

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868437)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:15 PM
Author: buck-toothed useless brakes

what other bands do you like bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868306)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:23 PM
Author: Chrome theatre indirect expression

The Eagles

Coldplay

Bon Jovi

For soloists, Mike Oldfield is a second Mozart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868341)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:17 PM
Author: Emerald Stock Car

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868315)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:21 PM
Author: garnet feces site

Is writing stuff like this what you do instead of gettin crunked and gettin fucked?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868332)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:24 PM
Author: Chrome theatre indirect expression

Pretty much everything I do is stuff I do instead of getting fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868343)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 11:55 PM
Author: bespoke whorehouse

they specialize in cuck songs.

Heard it from a friend who

Heard it from a friend who

Heard it from another you been messin' around

They say you got a boy friend

You're out late every weekend

They're talkin' about you and it's bringin' me down

But I know the neighborhood

And talk is cheap when the story is good

And the tales grow taller on down the line

But I'm telling you, babe

That I don't think it's true, babe

And even if it is keep this in mind

[Refrain:]

You take it on the run baby

If that's the way you want it baby

Then I don't want you around

I don't believe it

Not for a minute

You're under the gun so you take it on the run

You're thinking up your white lies

You're putting on your bedroom eyes

You say you're coming home but you won't say when

But I can feel it coming

If you leave tonight keep running

And you need never look back again

[Refrain x3]

Heard it from a friend who

Heard it from a friend who

Heard it from another you been messin' around

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22870468)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 11:57 PM
Author: Chrome theatre indirect expression

Classic interpretative mistake. This isn't a cuckold song. This is the song of a cad playing mind games with his woman to keep her at an emotional distance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22870474)



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Date: November 14th, 2016 5:56 PM
Author: Turquoise Mad-dog Skullcap Principal's Office



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Date: January 18th, 2019 4:24 PM
Author: Insanely creepy corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#37616302)



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Date: March 24th, 2013 4:37 PM
Author: Chrome theatre indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22873178)



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Date: March 30th, 2013 5:59 PM
Author: Lavender Hissy Fit Bbw

There's some 180 fuckin scholarship happening ITT. Why so few replies?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22907771)



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Date: May 16th, 2013 1:22 PM
Author: tan violent dragon



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Date: May 16th, 2013 1:34 PM
Author: exhilarant piazza preventive strike



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Date: May 16th, 2013 4:40 PM
Author: Histrionic Avocado Garrison

I've thought long and hard about this rating.

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#23211336)



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Date: June 26th, 2013 9:20 AM
Author: Curious crotch

(Patrick Bateman)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#23478166)



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Date: January 2nd, 2014 11:28 PM
Author: charcoal razzmatazz hall french chef



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Date: May 13th, 2016 11:39 PM
Author: crusty orchestra pit



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Date: July 18th, 2013 3:24 PM
Author: Wild lemon alpha mexican



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Date: August 21st, 2013 3:23 PM
Author: insane trust fund stage



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Date: January 2nd, 2014 9:23 PM
Author: electric shaky jewess



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Date: January 2nd, 2014 9:44 PM
Author: Dead jew

This is the kind of scholarship you can't get anywhere else. Unmitigated 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#24759766)



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Date: January 2nd, 2014 11:00 PM
Author: floppy gay wizard



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Date: April 1st, 2014 6:32 AM
Author: Galvanic blue state juggernaut



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Date: April 1st, 2014 6:29 AM
Author: Marvelous reading party



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Date: April 3rd, 2014 9:58 PM
Author: Marvelous reading party

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#25319229)



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Date: April 8th, 2014 8:56 PM
Author: Marvelous reading party



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Date: May 7th, 2014 12:57 PM
Author: Marvelous reading party



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Date: October 4th, 2015 2:36 PM
Author: Stimulating abode



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Date: May 13th, 2016 10:59 PM
Author: Stirring location



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Date: May 13th, 2016 11:07 PM
Author: impressive rusted den partner

I like REO Speedwagon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#30474793)



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Date: November 14th, 2016 5:18 PM
Author: Anal Painfully Honest Locus



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Date: November 14th, 2016 5:22 PM
Author: Turquoise Mad-dog Skullcap Principal's Office



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Date: November 14th, 2016 5:22 PM
Author: Sadistic area

Holy shit. We have regressed a lot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#31908039)



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Date: November 14th, 2016 5:44 PM
Author: Cobalt wonderful point

No, pbc was just on another level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#31908154)



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Date: November 14th, 2016 5:45 PM
Author: Anal Painfully Honest Locus

cr

bros, it's me again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#31908160)



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Date: August 1st, 2018 11:29 PM
Author: Submissive House Patrolman

If this thread resonates with you on any level (including skepticism), please watch this "fan-created" REO Speedwagon music video for an even cuckier song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G8jAPPjpGs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#36538137)



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Date: November 30th, 2018 6:07 PM
Author: Turquoise Mad-dog Skullcap Principal's Office



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Date: January 18th, 2019 4:10 PM
Author: bearded cruel-hearted queen of the night



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Date: March 30th, 2024 1:27 AM
Author: Boyish kitty



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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:57 AM
Author: Mind-boggling locale old irish cottage

Brilliant scholarship. I return to it often

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#47660349)