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Zimmerman is FUCKED: Trayvon texts barred from trial

Trayvon Martin information barred The judge at the George Z...
Free-loading Hall
  05/28/13
Thankfully the prosecution doesn't have any evidence that ca...
Coiffed sable market
  05/28/13
Actually its barred pending the prosecutions case and she wi...
Vigorous Space
  05/28/13
...
vibrant pervert locus
  05/28/13
what would marijuana use have to do with anything anyway? ar...
Beady-eyed ladyboy
  05/28/13
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Dark milk
  05/28/13
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maniacal principal's office
  05/28/13
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cobalt spot
  05/28/13
OH THE MAJESTY OF TEH LAW
big yapping legend pit
  05/28/13
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Gaped stage
  05/28/13
judge also has yet to rule on the defense's motion to bar th...
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
the "voice expert" stuff is incredible bullshit
Wild glittery center
  05/28/13
(obvious reptile who wants Zim to walk)
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
young trayvon
Kink-friendly drunken kitchen
  05/28/13
saint baby trayvon
khaki roommate jew
  05/28/13
in heaven, on a bed of clouds rests are sweet prince baby tr...
Beady-eyed ladyboy
  05/28/13
http://rollingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trayvon-mar...
khaki roommate jew
  05/28/13
is this one of those pictures where they digitally age the s...
Dark milk
  05/28/13
your boy killed a teenage high school student. u mad?
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
are there any known voice samples to compare?
razzmatazz chrome gas station foreskin
  05/28/13
The good news is that Trayvon is still dead.
Electric selfie
  05/28/13
PSA: the jurors have access to the internets
twinkling legal warrant temple
  05/28/13
If Zim could go back in time, do you think he would not get ...
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
Of course.
Topaz Chapel
  05/28/13
Oh what a straw man!
Coiffed sable market
  05/28/13
what?
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
straw man fallacy is when you mischaracterize your opponent'...
Kink-friendly drunken kitchen
  05/28/13
question: who the fuck cares?
odious insecure base crotch
  05/28/13
(sub-90 IQ shtick)
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
Hopefully this case will make future "neighborhood watc...
marvelous corner rigor
  05/28/13
what good is a neighborhood watch if it's not harrassing th...
Beady-eyed ladyboy
  05/28/13
yeah we can't have neighborhood watch people looking into br...
Titillating Piazza Place Of Business
  05/28/13
HOW WOULD THE TEXTS HAVE HELPED ZIMMERMAN?
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
*is old white lady listening to voicemails that go "yo ...
lilac mildly autistic voyeur
  05/28/13
what was the content of the texts in question?
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
hood rat gangsta shit, asking about guns, pictures with guns...
lilac mildly autistic voyeur
  05/28/13
link to texts?
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
just google bro
lilac mildly autistic voyeur
  05/28/13
None of which is relevant
idiotic abnormal boistinker school
  05/29/13
This would be a good entry in the ongoing xoxo game: retard ...
Fighting digit ratio
  05/28/13
...
Garnet trailer park
  05/28/13
The previous fights should have gotten in. Zimmerman's argum...
Topaz Chapel
  05/28/13
many kids get in fights in their teens. it's not an indicati...
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
Link to half the male posters here being part of a fight clu...
Coiffed sable market
  05/28/13
what kind of reasoning is this? Of course getting into fight...
Thriller field queen of the night
  05/28/13
is playing football as a youth also an indication for propen...
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
First, you need to clean up your reasoning. Nobody has said ...
Thriller field queen of the night
  05/28/13
Motion DENIED
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
you are fucking stupid.
Excitant meetinghouse brethren
  05/28/13
JFC, You are dumb
maniacal principal's office
  05/28/13
Should the prosecution be allowed to refer to Zimmerman's pr...
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&fo...
maniacal principal's office
  05/28/13
You apply the same logic: Does it suggest something about th...
Thriller field queen of the night
  05/28/13
no shit: your football "argument" is one of the du...
Dark milk
  05/28/13
...
Topaz Chapel
  05/28/13
explain
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
I agree, the above poasters football 'argument' is profoundl...
self-absorbed reading party rehab
  05/28/13
splain
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
football is a sport alfa highschool bros play to solcial-net...
self-absorbed reading party rehab
  05/28/13
did u ever get in a fight when u were a teenager?
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
were you ever selling drugs, breaking and entering, stealing...
Dark milk
  05/28/13
I did some of that. Anyway, the question had to do with the ...
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
they would if he were black
Beady-eyed ladyboy
  05/28/13
right.. and this is what his lawyer would argue... excluding...
aqua candlestick maker
  05/28/13
Attention retards: Propensity evidence is only relevant i...
coral adulterous box office genital piercing
  05/28/13
yes because appeals courts apply an exacting standard of rev...
Embarrassed to the bone 180 ticket booth
  05/28/13
YOU SHITLIBS ARE FUCKING RETARDED. GAS YOURSELF.
cobalt spot
  05/28/13
Only if Zimmerman knew about them. Did Zimmerman know about ...
idiotic abnormal boistinker school
  05/29/13
His mental state is not the only basis for relevancy. They ...
Fragrant flirting son of senegal water buffalo
  05/29/13
it's admissible character evidence
yellow theatre
  05/29/13
This probably one of of those rare cases where it isnt a hor...
Vigorous Space
  05/28/13
Cant do self-defense defense and NOT testify. He has to.
multi-colored faggotry roast beef
  05/28/13
Then wont his testimony and cross pretty much be the whole c...
Vigorous Space
  05/28/13
Yes, for lawyers. For jurors, who knows what smoke and mirro...
multi-colored faggotry roast beef
  05/28/13
end of the day, zimmerfaggot killed an innocent young man. t...
odious insecure base crotch
  05/28/13
Yeah basically they were both violent minorities.
Vigorous Space
  05/28/13
...
dashing erotic striped hyena
  05/28/13
seems like cr
misanthropic nursing home laser beams
  05/29/13
...
Beady-eyed ladyboy
  05/28/13
I wonder if the defense will be allowed to enter into eviden...
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
that stuff should definitely be allowed. it shows intent on ...
odious insecure base crotch
  05/28/13
Today, an enterprising young poaster in another thread resea...
exhilarant telephone casino
  05/28/13
tiNtcr. You cited only mere rules and precedents which the ...
Vigorous Space
  05/28/13
it makes no sense that the defendant would also have to know...
useless stimulating national haunted graveyard
  05/28/13
LOL
Embarrassed to the bone 180 ticket booth
  05/28/13
Date: May 28th, 2013 7:10 PM Author: ,,.,,.,,.,.,.,.,..,..,...
Embarrassed to the bone 180 ticket booth
  05/28/13
I suppose it makes sense in the broader scheme of our crimin...
Elite olive sandwich turdskin
  05/28/13
gas yourself idiot
idiotic abnormal boistinker school
  05/29/13
ITT: Reptiles shocked to discover the judicial system is no ...
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
Lol...no. Generally pwning defendants is a pretty reptile m...
Vigorous Space
  05/28/13
True, but even the democrats are racist there. More than 10%...
Fighting digit ratio
  05/28/13
Tbf, did they actually split or did they sit out the senate ...
Vigorous Space
  05/28/13
Looks like both. http://www.voteseminole.org/links/ESR_Offic...
Fighting digit ratio
  05/28/13
Result: They MAF, oh they so so MAD.
maniacal principal's office
  05/28/13
Reptiles, should the prosecution be allowed to refer to Zimm...
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
Only if: 1) It was a felony conviction 2) He takes the...
maniacal principal's office
  05/28/13
I think in flo rida only if it was a crime of dishonesty and...
Fighting digit ratio
  05/28/13
He has to testify if theyre using self-defense. And it would...
multi-colored faggotry roast beef
  05/28/13
Sure. Put the dirty spic away.
Vigorous Space
  05/28/13
(guy who doesn't realize the defendant gets advantages that ...
aqua candlestick maker
  05/28/13
(guy who doesn't realize that isn't relevant here)
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
No idea legally. But logically, it comes down to whether tha...
Thriller field queen of the night
  05/28/13
Every post you make should come with the subtitle: I have no...
Fighting digit ratio
  05/28/13
lol. I specifically eschew that which could be lifted from w...
Thriller field queen of the night
  05/28/13
Just give up and leave. You're a joke.
Fighting digit ratio
  05/28/13
CGM catches shit but he's more logical and coherent than 99%...
Ultramarine Cruel-hearted Immigrant
  05/28/13
No, he's a plodding pedantic pissant.
Fighting digit ratio
  05/28/13
180
maniacal principal's office
  05/28/13
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Sick Slap-happy Forum
  05/28/13
thank you. this was the reptile response I was looking for.
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
Not a reptile brah. If it helps, I also don't think Martin's...
Thriller field queen of the night
  05/28/13
but not Zimmerman's assault charges? I find it interesting t...
sooty area dopamine
  05/28/13
The accounts have I read of Zimmerman's charge were explicit...
Thriller field queen of the night
  05/28/13
Trayvon is not on trial here, Zimmerman is. We give defendan...
Razzle Up-to-no-good Location
  05/28/13
LOL HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Sick Slap-happy Forum
  05/28/13
...
maniacal principal's office
  05/28/13
If you step back and think about it, it is surreal how much ...
sexy stirring lodge scourge upon the earth
  05/28/13
how's that any good for the prosecution? everyone on that ju...
Transparent Soul-stirring Stag Film Rigpig
  05/28/13
tbh, i wouldnt have heard about these texts if not for xoxoh...
Beady-eyed ladyboy
  05/28/13
you don't think people on the jury are going to go online an...
Transparent Soul-stirring Stag Film Rigpig
  05/28/13
i doubt that most of the jury pool knows how to use google e...
Beady-eyed ladyboy
  05/28/13
You over estimate the technological prowess of your average ...
maniacal principal's office
  05/28/13
Pro tip, no lawyer ever thought that any of those were getti...
Navy Cerebral Mood Becky
  05/28/13
have any media besides FOX picked this up?
Beady-eyed ladyboy
  05/28/13
Its been heavily covered by florida news outlets
Navy Cerebral Mood Becky
  05/28/13
funny, i live in florida and havent heard anything about thi...
Beady-eyed ladyboy
  05/28/13
Are you serious? ALl the related stories have been on CNN...
red kitty heaven
  05/28/13
False- http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263915&...
Garnet trailer park
  05/28/13
No lawyer thought....
Navy Cerebral Mood Becky
  05/28/13
It does tend to make it more likely, under relevance princip...
Honey-headed galvanic locale
  05/28/13
?
red kitty heaven
  05/29/13
I agree that it's relevant, but I think this was not exclude...
Fragrant flirting son of senegal water buffalo
  05/29/13
Under rule 405, you can prove character on direct only by op...
Curious slate athletic conference sweet tailpipe
  05/29/13
yea, its admissible character evidence
yellow theatre
  05/29/13
OH WHAT A TRIAL FUCK YOU FAGGOTS WGWAG 4E
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  07/13/13
OH WHAT A TRIAL FUCK YOU FAGGOTS WGWAG 4E
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  07/13/13
NO SILENCE NO PEACE SHITLIBS SHITEIBS IAJFAIJRJOCJCOIGHGHHH ...
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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:35 AM
Author: Free-loading Hall

Trayvon Martin information barred

The judge at the George Zimmerman murder trial ruled the defense cannot bring up Martin's text messages, his familiarity with guns, marijuana use or previous fights.

LOL reptile dorks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283896)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:40 AM
Author: Coiffed sable market

Thankfully the prosecution doesn't have any evidence that can be barred.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283906)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:21 PM
Author: Vigorous Space

Actually its barred pending the prosecutions case and she will rule on it again depending on what the prosecution presents. Presumably they will have to put on some evidence of Z being the aggressor and that brings all if this in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284078)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 7:51 PM
Author: vibrant pervert locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286937)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:41 AM
Author: Beady-eyed ladyboy

what would marijuana use have to do with anything anyway? are reptiles really this unhinged?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283910)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:47 PM
Author: Dark milk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284194)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:11 PM
Author: maniacal principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284288)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 9:17 PM
Author: cobalt spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23287512)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:42 AM
Author: big yapping legend pit

OH THE MAJESTY OF TEH LAW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283912)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:04 PM
Author: Gaped stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284011)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:43 AM
Author: sooty area dopamine

judge also has yet to rule on the defense's motion to bar the prosecution's voice expert, who will testify that the screams on the 911 tape were those of young Trayvon.

The basis for their motion is that there's only 8 seconds of tape and the industry guidelines recommend a minimum of 10 seconds to analyze an audio sample such as this. i expect that their motion will be denied, but you never know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283917)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:58 AM
Author: Wild glittery center

the "voice expert" stuff is incredible bullshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283980)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:01 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

(obvious reptile who wants Zim to walk)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283993)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:02 PM
Author: Kink-friendly drunken kitchen

young trayvon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284002)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:25 PM
Author: khaki roommate jew

saint baby trayvon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284098)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:28 PM
Author: Beady-eyed ladyboy

in heaven, on a bed of clouds rests are sweet prince baby trayvon, blanketed by a host of angels

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284110)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:46 PM
Author: khaki roommate jew

http://rollingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trayvon-martin-grad.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284192)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:48 PM
Author: Dark milk

is this one of those pictures where they digitally age the subjects to see what they would look like now? i'm pretty sure he was much younger than this when he was stalked and brutally murdered just for being black by george zimmerman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284199)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:04 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

your boy killed a teenage high school student. u mad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284257)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:12 PM
Author: razzmatazz chrome gas station foreskin

are there any known voice samples to compare?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284298)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:44 AM
Author: Electric selfie

The good news is that Trayvon is still dead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283921)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:44 AM
Author: twinkling legal warrant temple

PSA: the jurors have access to the internets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283923)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:45 AM
Author: sooty area dopamine

If Zim could go back in time, do you think he would not get out of the car, or perhaps not followed the young man in the first place?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283928)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:47 AM
Author: Topaz Chapel

Of course.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283933)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:47 AM
Author: Coiffed sable market

Oh what a straw man!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283937)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:50 AM
Author: sooty area dopamine

what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283948)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:06 PM
Author: Kink-friendly drunken kitchen

straw man fallacy is when you mischaracterize your opponent's position and then attack that, the straw man, instead of his actual position. you're assuming that the dude did those things in the first place, but i dont think that was really a straw man, and its not really a false dichotomy either. what kind of fallacy do you think you used?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284016)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:20 PM
Author: odious insecure base crotch

question: who the fuck cares?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284073)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:23 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

(sub-90 IQ shtick)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284084)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:54 AM
Author: marvelous corner rigor

Hopefully this case will make future "neighborhood watchmen" think twice before approaching random strangers (win or lose for Zimm)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283966)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:31 PM
Author: Beady-eyed ladyboy

what good is a neighborhood watch if it's not harrassing the local niggers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284408)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 7:18 PM
Author: Titillating Piazza Place Of Business

yeah we can't have neighborhood watch people looking into bros who are high as fuck and trying to steal shit in a neighborhood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286773)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:46 AM
Author: sooty area dopamine

HOW WOULD THE TEXTS HAVE HELPED ZIMMERMAN?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283930)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:47 AM
Author: lilac mildly autistic voyeur

*is old white lady listening to voicemails that go "yo n****a, I just got my gat and beat on some punkass bitch fo scuffing ma shoes woot woot"*

*def doesn't change her mind about anything*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283939)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:51 AM
Author: sooty area dopamine

what was the content of the texts in question?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283950)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:52 AM
Author: lilac mildly autistic voyeur

hood rat gangsta shit, asking about guns, pictures with guns, bragging about being a mini gangsta

he may have been completely full of shit about it, but he does not present a sympathetic image

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283958)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:54 AM
Author: sooty area dopamine

link to texts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283964)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:55 AM
Author: lilac mildly autistic voyeur

just google bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283969)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 12:37 AM
Author: idiotic abnormal boistinker school

None of which is relevant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289186)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:53 AM
Author: Fighting digit ratio

This would be a good entry in the ongoing xoxo game: retard or aspie?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283960)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:35 PM
Author: Garnet trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284424)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:50 AM
Author: Topaz Chapel

The previous fights should have gotten in. Zimmerman's argument is essentially that Trayvon started a fight with him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283945)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:53 AM
Author: sooty area dopamine

many kids get in fights in their teens. it's not an indication of propensity for violence. just a normal part of growing up.

over half the male poasters here likely got in several fights in their teens. doesn't mean anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283961)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:58 AM
Author: Coiffed sable market

Link to half the male posters here being part of a fight club?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283981)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:00 PM
Author: Thriller field queen of the night

what kind of reasoning is this? Of course getting into fights is an indication of propensity for violence. Even if it is "normal" for certain groups, that is not an argument against it being an indication of propensity but rather suggests that those groups for whom fights are normal as a group have a propensity aswell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283990)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:03 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

is playing football as a youth also an indication for propensity for violence since football is a violent sport? if you were ever accused of assault, would it be fair for a jury to consider that you played football in your youth and infer from that that you are a violent person? I would say that's far more prejudicial than probative. same goes for getting into a schoolyard fight or two. apparently the judge feels the same way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284006)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:07 PM
Author: Thriller field queen of the night

First, you need to clean up your reasoning. Nobody has said that showing that you are involved in an activity definitively proves you are a violent person. You seemed to have dropped the key word "propensity".

Second, yes showing you played football, for example, does have bearing on your propensity to engage in physical violence. The HS football player is alot more likely to jump someone for looking at them the wrong way or following them vs. the nerd in the library.

Third, based on what I have seen, we are not talking about some weak indicators such as participation in football where you can certainly argue it is more likely to prejudice without actually being a good link to propensity. Bragging about guns and violence, being a part of filmed fist-fights, etc, are pretty fucking indicative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284021)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:10 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

Motion DENIED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284033)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:26 PM
Author: Excitant meetinghouse brethren

you are fucking stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284107)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:13 PM
Author: maniacal principal's office

JFC,

You are dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284302)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:16 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

Should the prosecution be allowed to refer to Zimmerman's prior felony assault charge against a police officer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284321)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:17 PM
Author: maniacal principal's office

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284320

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284323)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:25 PM
Author: Thriller field queen of the night

You apply the same logic: Does it suggest something about the propensity of the individual towards initiating violent confrontations?

I'm no expert on Zimmerman's past, but from what I have read, the charge came about because he was assaulted by an undercover officer (not knowing they were an officer) and defended himself. The only relevance therefore to this case would be to suggest that Zimmerman is willing to defend himself when someone else attacks him. Certainly not something that can be used against him. However, if the events surrounding the charge were different, say Zimmerman initiated violence against the undercover cop for whatever reason, then yes it should be allowed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284369)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:51 PM
Author: Dark milk

no shit: your football "argument" is one of the dumbest things i've seen on this site. just sit back and think about all the things that are dumb about what you're saying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284208)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:00 PM
Author: Topaz Chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284238)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:13 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284303)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:15 PM
Author: self-absorbed reading party rehab

I agree, the above poasters football 'argument' is profoundly stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284310)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:17 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

splain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284329)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:22 PM
Author: self-absorbed reading party rehab

football is a sport alfa highschool bros play to solcial-network and put on their college applications, NOT because they have some propensity for violence.

Being a thug nigger who gets into fights at school and sells dope and poses for thug pics with guns DOES indicate a propensity for violence.

I don't understand how someone would even need this explained to them. What sort of delusional fantasyland do you shitlibs live in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284351)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:23 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

did u ever get in a fight when u were a teenager?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284358)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:35 PM
Author: Dark milk

were you ever selling drugs, breaking and entering, stealing jewelry, involved in an organized fight club, constantly kicked out of school, banned from your mother's home, and attempting to buy multiple pistols when you were a teenager?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284426)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:41 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

I did some of that. Anyway, the question had to do with the victim's schoolyard fights. My question to the other poster was whether he ever got into fights as a teen. I'm assuming his silence means he has. My follow up question is, what does his schoolyard fights say about him and his propensity to commit violence?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284462)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:44 PM
Author: Beady-eyed ladyboy

they would if he were black

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284481)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:22 PM
Author: aqua candlestick maker

right.. and this is what his lawyer would argue... excluding evidence of propensity to violence in a self defense case is bullshit and creates a solid appeal argument i would think

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284350)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 4:00 PM
Author: coral adulterous box office genital piercing

Attention retards:

Propensity evidence is only relevant if the defendant knows about the propensity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23285517)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 6:55 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone 180 ticket booth

yes because appeals courts apply an exacting standard of review when that's the error raised on appeal

(idiot)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286619)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 9:18 PM
Author: cobalt spot

YOU SHITLIBS ARE FUCKING RETARDED. GAS YOURSELF.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23287517)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 12:37 AM
Author: idiotic abnormal boistinker school

Only if Zimmerman knew about them. Did Zimmerman know about them? No? Then how the fuck can they have contributed to Zimmerman's mental state?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289191)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 12:42 AM
Author: Fragrant flirting son of senegal water buffalo

His mental state is not the only basis for relevancy. They tend to corroborate his story that Trayvon started shit.

That makes them relevant, although that doesn't necessarily make them admissible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289211)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:01 AM
Author: yellow theatre

it's admissible character evidence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289345)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:13 PM
Author: Vigorous Space

This probably one of of those rare cases where it isnt a horrible idea for him to testify.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284047)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:38 PM
Author: multi-colored faggotry roast beef

Cant do self-defense defense and NOT testify. He has to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284149)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:40 PM
Author: Vigorous Space

Then wont his testimony and cross pretty much be the whole case? The rest of this seems kind of extraneous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284158)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:42 PM
Author: multi-colored faggotry roast beef

Yes, for lawyers. For jurors, who knows what smoke and mirrors shit they fixate on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284166)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:21 PM
Author: odious insecure base crotch

end of the day, zimmerfaggot killed an innocent young man. trayhero was a thug-in-training and likely would have eventually killed someone and gone to prison for murder if zimmerfaggot hadn't killed him. however, he still didn't deserve to die like that, and his death was zimmerfaggot's fault. zimmerfaggot must pay bros.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284080)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:23 PM
Author: Vigorous Space

Yeah basically they were both violent minorities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284087)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:31 PM
Author: dashing erotic striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284117)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:43 AM
Author: misanthropic nursing home laser beams

seems like cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289835)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:24 PM
Author: Beady-eyed ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284088)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:26 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

I wonder if the defense will be allowed to enter into evidence his dreams of one day becoming an airline pilot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284106)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:49 PM
Author: odious insecure base crotch

that stuff should definitely be allowed. it shows intent on trayvon's part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284203)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:48 PM
Author: exhilarant telephone casino

Today, an enterprising young poaster in another thread researched the Florida rules of evidence and found that such character evidence is admissible only where the defendant is claiming self-defense AND knew of the victim's propensity for violence. Since Zimmerman did not know Trayvon before the incident the character evidence does not meet the exception. The same poaster could not think of another doctrine or exception by which the texts/pics would be admissible. So, all-in-all this was a proper ruling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284200)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:56 PM
Author: Vigorous Space

tiNtcr. You cited only mere rules and precedents which the chatboard is not bound by. Please add some references to shitlibs, reptiles and heros in the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284223)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 7:10 PM
Author: useless stimulating national haunted graveyard

it makes no sense that the defendant would also have to know of the victim's propensity for violence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286721)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 7:13 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone 180 ticket booth

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286737)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 7:14 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone 180 ticket booth

Date: May 28th, 2013 7:10 PM

Author: ,,.,,.,,.,.,.,.,..,..,..,..,

it makes no sense that the defendant would also have to know of the victim's propensity for violence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286721)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286744)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 7:20 PM
Author: Elite olive sandwich turdskin

I suppose it makes sense in the broader scheme of our criminal justice system in that we prioritize violent crime by strangers over that by acquaintances, friends, family, or lovers. There is the remedy of that defense in situations of non-stranger violent crime. Whether this distinction is a worthy one is up for debate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286785)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 12:40 AM
Author: idiotic abnormal boistinker school

gas yourself idiot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289203)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:09 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

ITT: Reptiles shocked to discover the judicial system is no longer stacked in their favor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284281)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:11 PM
Author: Vigorous Space

Lol...no. Generally pwning defendants is a pretty reptile move. And the Seminole Cty FL legal system (a county that every GOP nominee since Wilkie has won) is very good at pwning criminal doods.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284293)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:14 PM
Author: Fighting digit ratio

True, but even the democrats are racist there. More than 10% split their ticket Romney and Nelson for senate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284305)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:18 PM
Author: Vigorous Space

Tbf, did they actually split or did they sit out the senate race? Connie Mack was just awful.

But probably cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284333)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:28 PM
Author: Fighting digit ratio

Looks like both. http://www.voteseminole.org/links/ESR_Official.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284388)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:15 PM
Author: maniacal principal's office

Result: They MAF, oh they so so MAD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284314)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:16 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

Reptiles, should the prosecution be allowed to refer to Zimmerman's prior felony assault charges (2 domestic, 1 against a police officer)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284318)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:16 PM
Author: maniacal principal's office

Only if:

1) It was a felony conviction

2) He takes the stand to testify.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284320)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:30 PM
Author: Fighting digit ratio

I think in flo rida only if it was a crime of dishonesty and they are using it to impeach his testimony -OR- if the defense introduces his character with respect to violence first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284403)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:33 PM
Author: multi-colored faggotry roast beef

He has to testify if theyre using self-defense. And it would only come in that he had a felony conviction within ten years, not the nature of the conviction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284417)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:20 PM
Author: Vigorous Space

Sure. Put the dirty spic away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284339)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:28 PM
Author: aqua candlestick maker

(guy who doesn't realize the defendant gets advantages that the prosecution doesn't enjoy -- hmm wonder why that could be)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284390)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:37 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

(guy who doesn't realize that isn't relevant here)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284438)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:32 PM
Author: Thriller field queen of the night

No idea legally. But logically, it comes down to whether that history is directly relevant. I have no idea about the domestic charges, but the police officer charge appears to be irrelevant as it does not speak to Zimmerman's propensity to initiate physical violence against others. If however, lets say, Zimmerman had a domestic abuse charge against him, then yes that should potentially be included as it might (depending on the facts of course) shed light on whether or not he initiates violence against others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284415)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:37 PM
Author: Fighting digit ratio

Every post you make should come with the subtitle: I have no fucking idea but here's a rough paraphrase of a Wikipedia article.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284439)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:39 PM
Author: Thriller field queen of the night

lol. I specifically eschew that which could be lifted from wiki (the actual legal question).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284448)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:07 PM
Author: Fighting digit ratio

Just give up and leave. You're a joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284699)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:41 PM
Author: Ultramarine Cruel-hearted Immigrant

CGM catches shit but he's more logical and coherent than 99% of this boart

his posts are very clunky (like an argument robot wrote them) but they make sense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284960)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:52 PM
Author: Fighting digit ratio

No, he's a plodding pedantic pissant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23285028)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:40 PM
Author: maniacal principal's office

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284458)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:49 PM
Author: Sick Slap-happy Forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284532)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:37 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

thank you. this was the reptile response I was looking for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284441)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:40 PM
Author: Thriller field queen of the night

Not a reptile brah. If it helps, I also don't think Martin's weed use should be allowed as it, on its own, suggests very little about propensity towards initiating violence. The guns and fights however? you bet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284453)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:45 PM
Author: sooty area dopamine

but not Zimmerman's assault charges? I find it interesting that you gave Zim the benefit of the doubt and presumed he was merely "defending himself" against the police officer he was charged with assaulting, but you make no mention of the possibility that the victim here could have been defending himself when he got into a fight in school. I also find it interesting that you don't find that interesting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284489)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:49 PM
Author: Thriller field queen of the night

The accounts have I read of Zimmerman's charge were explicit in that he did not initiate the physical assault but merely responded to it. This is in part probably fucking why the charges were dropped. If the accounts I read had not mentioned details about who initiated, then my opinion would have been "We need to know more, they may be permissible depending on the facts". As it stands now from everything that I have read, it is clear Zimmerman did not initiate the violence against the undercover officer.

It is also clear from the texts and videos that Martin was participating voluntarily in fights. I'm not sure how you can possibly form an alternative explanation that is it all plausible, but please feel free to do so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284538)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 4:41 PM
Author: Razzle Up-to-no-good Location

Trayvon is not on trial here, Zimmerman is. We give defendants a special latitude in our legal system because of the desire to prove that someone is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and because prosecutors tend to be far more powerful than they have any right to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23285739)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:36 PM
Author: Sick Slap-happy Forum

LOL HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284429)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:41 PM
Author: maniacal principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284461)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:50 PM
Author: sexy stirring lodge scourge upon the earth

If you step back and think about it, it is surreal how much effort the same people put in day after day, after day after day, to arguing about things like Trayvon Martin on this Internet message board.

The Lisa Rowe bf thread is another good example

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284545)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:48 PM
Author: Transparent Soul-stirring Stag Film Rigpig

how's that any good for the prosecution? everyone on that jury will know about all of this already.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284518)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:51 PM
Author: Beady-eyed ladyboy

tbh, i wouldnt have heard about these texts if not for xoxohth and i still havnt even seen them referenced outside of this board. and i live in florida

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284551)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:55 PM
Author: Transparent Soul-stirring Stag Film Rigpig

you don't think people on the jury are going to go online and read up on the case and all of the facts (admissible or not)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284592)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:57 PM
Author: Beady-eyed ladyboy

i doubt that most of the jury pool knows how to use google effectively

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284601)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:02 PM
Author: maniacal principal's office

You over estimate the technological prowess of your average juror.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284660)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:55 PM
Author: Navy Cerebral Mood Becky

Pro tip, no lawyer ever thought that any of those were getting in unless the prosecution started delving into the saintly nature of dear departeed baby trayvon at trial, which they would be stupid to do. The defenses main goal with this was to get it out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284586)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:59 PM
Author: Beady-eyed ladyboy

have any media besides FOX picked this up?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284623)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:01 PM
Author: Navy Cerebral Mood Becky

Its been heavily covered by florida news outlets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284646)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:07 PM
Author: Beady-eyed ladyboy

funny, i live in florida and havent heard anything about this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284696)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 7:20 PM
Author: red kitty heaven

Are you serious?

ALl the related stories have been on CNN's main page as the top story multiple times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286784)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:02 PM
Author: Garnet trailer park

False- http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263915&mc=164&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284654)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:06 PM
Author: Navy Cerebral Mood Becky

No lawyer thought....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284685)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 9:22 PM
Author: Honey-headed galvanic locale

It does tend to make it more likely, under relevance principles, that the "victim" would respond violently, even if it wasn't known to the defendant. Doesn't that overcome the objection on relevance grounds? If so, on what basis do we exclude it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23287544)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 12:39 AM
Author: red kitty heaven

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289198)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 12:43 AM
Author: Fragrant flirting son of senegal water buffalo

I agree that it's relevant, but I think this was not excluded on relevancy grounds. I'm going off third-hand reports and 0 experience with criminal evidence rules, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289221)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 12:46 AM
Author: Curious slate athletic conference sweet tailpipe

Under rule 405, you can prove character on direct only by opinion/reputation evidence. Only on cross you can bring up specific instances.

Specific instances are only allowed to prove character on direct I believe when it's an essential element to claim or defense (e.g. a defamation claim).

Now, in this case, it seems very fucking likely that they'll get it in somehow. The state's star witness has already been caught in numerous lies, and I think the D can press her to say Martin would never start a fight or something along those lines, at which point the D can try to impeach her with specific instances.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289243)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:01 AM
Author: yellow theatre

yea, its admissible character evidence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289360)



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Date: July 13th, 2013 7:35 PM
Author: metal deer antler site

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23612657)



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Date: July 13th, 2013 7:35 PM
Author: metal deer antler site

OH WHAT A TRIAL FUCK YOU FAGGOTS WGWAG 4E

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23612658)



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Date: July 13th, 2013 7:49 PM
Author: metal deer antler site

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23617228)



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Date: July 13th, 2013 7:49 PM
Author: metal deer antler site

NO SILENCE NO PEACE SHITLIBS SHITEIBS IAJFAIJRJOCJCOIGHGHHH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23617229)