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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Contagious place of business
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Jet-lagged Wrinkle
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Salmon misanthropic french chef
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Idiotic Poppy Rehab
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Salmon misanthropic french chef
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Idiotic Poppy Rehab
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Salmon misanthropic french chef
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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cq
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  05/29/25
I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
maroon jap
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Contagious place of business

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Jet-lagged Wrinkle

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Jet-lagged Wrinkle

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Jet-lagged Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Jet-lagged Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Jet-lagged Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Jet-lagged Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Jet-lagged Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Jet-lagged Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Jet-lagged Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Jet-lagged Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Jet-lagged Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49117359)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Salmon misanthropic french chef

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Idiotic Poppy Rehab

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Salmon misanthropic french chef

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Idiotic Poppy Rehab

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Salmon misanthropic french chef

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Yellow comical haunted graveyard really tough guy

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: balding maize sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Racy gay wizard marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Self-centered electric furnace laser beams

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Garnet hot principal's office

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Frozen submissive mental disorder station

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Yellow comical haunted graveyard really tough guy

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: maroon jap

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal multi-colored hunting ground

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: flushed arousing nibblets

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49105022)