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So are long-term fasts flame or CR?

That Harper's article inspired me and I haven't eaten anythi...
shimmering depressive step-uncle's house
  03/18/15
link to harper's? Intermittent fasting has gotten a lot of g...
racy twinkling home
  03/18/15
It's been posted a couple times on XO recently, which is how...
shimmering depressive step-uncle's house
  03/18/15
it's legit, but most people lack the willpower to do it for ...
Sick Base Roommate
  03/18/15
At 5'11 and 210 (since fat fucks all under report) your BMI ...
magical black woman
  03/18/15
The American obesity rate for men is over 32%, so I'd say be...
shimmering depressive step-uncle's house
  03/18/15
Until your BMI is under 24 you are a whale, not a human. Get...
magical black woman
  03/18/15
Well, that is motivation, I suppose.
shimmering depressive step-uncle's house
  03/18/15
ur body/metabolism has an equilibrium point=K, distortions o...
Insane Soul-stirring Area Newt
  03/18/15
They purify you; hone your thoughts; crystallize your motiva...
autistic selfie market
  03/18/15
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Concupiscible immigrant
  03/18/15
lol 180
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supple therapy new version
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cream big address
  04/06/15
I am fucking finished
Aromatic Dark Party Of The First Part
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gold zombie-like native jew
  07/22/15
how are you faring brother? do you only drink water i take i...
Wild sound barrier
  03/18/15
Well, I basically started on Wednesday after eating a full c...
shimmering depressive step-uncle's house
  03/18/15
Wow this sounds like the most retarded diet of all time ...
insecure theatre
  03/18/15
I don't think he's lifting and trying to put on muscle or an...
Irradiated Salmon Field
  03/18/15
Does it really matter if I'm only eating 3k calories a week?
shimmering depressive step-uncle's house
  03/18/15
If this is your goal: https://alastairgordonwalltowall.fi...
insecure theatre
  03/18/15
Beats being a fat. That said, this is mostly just my plan...
shimmering depressive step-uncle's house
  03/18/15
This is unsustainable and flame. Zero percent chance you'...
insecure theatre
  03/18/15
Well duh it isn't sustainable. I'm using it to lose weight, ...
shimmering depressive step-uncle's house
  03/18/15
You never did this hth.com/weakflamebrej.jpeg
insecure theatre
  03/18/15
depends on your genetics, metabolism, and current activity l...
Heady drunken school knife
  03/18/15
Could you elaborate on who it's really unhealthy for? I doub...
shimmering depressive step-uncle's house
  03/18/15
Bump for any MFEs in the day crew.
shimmering depressive step-uncle's house
  03/18/15
based on my knowledge there are two schools here: intermitte...
curious ticket booth trump supporter
  03/18/15
I did that stupid Master Cleanse lemonade diet 12 years ago ...
massive kitchen
  03/18/15
Why was it stupid then?
Ebony domesticated bawdyhouse
  03/20/15
cq
Wild sound barrier
  03/24/15
You shouldn't go much longer than about 36 hours. Your body ...
Light well-lubricated idea he suggested
  03/18/15
Can you explain more not eating after workout? I thought tra...
idiotic tanning salon partner
  03/24/15
After working out (heavy weights/low-moderate rep) your body...
Light well-lubricated idea he suggested
  05/16/15
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autistic selfie market
  03/20/15
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autistic selfie market
  03/24/15
I'll let you know in 7 - 10 days.
Ebony domesticated bawdyhouse
  03/24/15
This is why I bumped this. Please document this powerful tr...
autistic selfie market
  03/24/15
Have you done this or are you considering it? Or are you ju...
Ebony domesticated bawdyhouse
  03/24/15
1. I have not done this. 2. I am not ruthlessly mocking you...
autistic selfie market
  03/24/15
Cool, bro. I figure I've done worse things to my body. How ...
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  03/24/15
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autistic selfie market
  03/24/15
(RTG, collapsed in corner of office, hand outstretched towar...
autistic selfie market
  04/06/15
Hey man, I lasted about 3.5 days and then switched over to i...
Ebony domesticated bawdyhouse
  04/06/15
TYTY
autistic selfie market
  04/06/15
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autistic selfie market
  03/31/15
ITT not a lot of Jainbros
cream big address
  04/06/15
I think if they go too long its called starving to death, wh...
Glassy spot
  04/06/15
I'm not sure if this is true.
autistic selfie market
  04/06/15
To be fair, I'm not a doctor.
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Date: March 18th, 2015 12:13 AM
Author: shimmering depressive step-uncle's house

That Harper's article inspired me and I haven't eaten anything for the past three days and only about 3k calories in the past seven. Obviously it appears to be working thus far, but I'm wondering if there are big hazards I should be aware of before I try going a week or more without food. Currently I'm just taking a multivitamin.

I'm not a superfat, btw, only about 5'11 and 200.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510271)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 12:15 AM
Author: racy twinkling home

link to harper's? Intermittent fasting has gotten a lot of good press in the last 2-3 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510278)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 12:18 AM
Author: shimmering depressive step-uncle's house

It's been posted a couple times on XO recently, which is how I found it:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=forums&srcid=MTY2MDUwODgzNDY5MjQ4OTA0MjUBMDU5MDY5Mzg2MjMzMzAwMTEzMDMBcmxuUmlGVWw4cDhKATAuMQEBdjI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510297)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 1:54 AM
Author: Sick Base Roommate

it's legit, but most people lack the willpower to do it for very long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510709)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:12 AM
Author: magical black woman

At 5'11 and 210 (since fat fucks all under report) your BMI is 29.3 which is borderline obese (BMI >30)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511624)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:18 AM
Author: shimmering depressive step-uncle's house

The American obesity rate for men is over 32%, so I'd say beating all of them out is probably enough to say I'm "not a superfat." I ain't fatd00d.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511663)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:24 AM
Author: magical black woman

Until your BMI is under 24 you are a whale, not a human. Get there and we'll talk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511708)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:32 AM
Author: shimmering depressive step-uncle's house

Well, that is motivation, I suppose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511761)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 12:16 AM
Author: Insane Soul-stirring Area Newt

ur body/metabolism has an equilibrium point=K, distortions of diet to the contrary, u will reach that Konstant,indubitably, k?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510286)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 12:28 AM
Author: autistic selfie market

They purify you; hone your thoughts; crystallize your motivations. Breathe in. Hear the crinkle-crack of your cavity expanding with air. Modern day St. Anthony at your shipyard desk, you. Taste of copper in your mouth; running from your nose. Sputtering cough leaves red flecks against the couragated metal wall. This is good. You feel good. Pure. You hear the rain outside, banging against the tin roof. In the distance, the repulsor cranes carry on their swan ballet, offloading pallets from ships across the thousand worlds.

Sent from my Iridium

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510334)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 10:53 AM
Author: Concupiscible immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511512)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:16 AM
Author: pontificating outnumbered business firm weed whacker

lol 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511653)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:37 AM
Author: Razzle cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511800)



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Date: March 31st, 2015 5:25 PM
Author: supple therapy new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27589909)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:39 PM
Author: cream big address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632898)



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Date: May 16th, 2015 3:01 PM
Author: Aromatic Dark Party Of The First Part

I am fucking finished

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27903410)



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Date: July 22nd, 2015 11:37 PM
Author: gold zombie-like native jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#28393639)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 1:55 AM
Author: Wild sound barrier

how are you faring brother? do you only drink water i take it?

i want to do it too but i am too fucking lacking in willpower

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510719)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 2:05 AM
Author: shimmering depressive step-uncle's house

Well, I basically started on Wednesday after eating a full calorie load on Tuesday. I've had a few hiccups but I've been ramping up the intensity pretty fast

-Wednesday I ate 1 chocolate-covered pretzal because there was a box at the office, and that was it

-Thursday I caved a bit while covering a press event and ate a couple cookies

-Friday I ate nothing

-On Saturday I was invited to a St. Patrick's Day party. I was planning in advance to eat at it and pretty much ate normally, probably about 2200 calories

-Since leaving that party on Saturday night I've eaten nothing.

I've only been drinking water, besides one beer and some whisky at the party I went to. It's been easier than I expected but also not a walk in the park, though I hear once you get over the 3-4 day hump it can be a lot easier because hunger mostly goes away. We'll see if I can maek it.

One thing that helps is that in mental terms I think it's easier to simply eat nothing than to rigorously watch what you eat all day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510764)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 9:30 AM
Author: insecure theatre

Wow this sounds like the most retarded diet of all time

Just do nothing but shitcarbs and alcohol bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511258)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 9:58 AM
Author: Irradiated Salmon Field

I don't think he's lifting and trying to put on muscle or anything breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511310)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 10:10 AM
Author: shimmering depressive step-uncle's house

Does it really matter if I'm only eating 3k calories a week?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511344)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 10:22 AM
Author: insecure theatre

If this is your goal:

https://alastairgordonwalltowall.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/skinny-pow-2-copy1.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511382)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 10:25 AM
Author: shimmering depressive step-uncle's house

Beats being a fat.

That said, this is mostly just my plan for losing weight. Once it's actually gone, I'll transition to eating a more normal diet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511394)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 10:28 AM
Author: insecure theatre

This is unsustainable and flame. Zero percent chance you've ever had only 3K calories in any 7 day window since you were an infant hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511412)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:06 AM
Author: shimmering depressive step-uncle's house

Well duh it isn't sustainable. I'm using it to lose weight, not as a permanent shift in diet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511590)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:18 AM
Author: insecure theatre

You never did this hth.com/weakflamebrej.jpeg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511661)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 2:03 AM
Author: Heady drunken school knife

depends on your genetics, metabolism, and current activity level.

it's extremely unhealthy for certain segments of the population.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510751)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 2:09 AM
Author: shimmering depressive step-uncle's house

Could you elaborate on who it's really unhealthy for? I doubt it's me as I'm an extremely generic subset of the population rather than an exceptional one, but obviously I should confirm this.

My genetics and metabolism are pretty much the norm for American 20-something doods, I imagine. I'm not as active as I should be but I do enough walking to not be a super couch potato. Obviously I should be lifting, but I'm currently not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27510787)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 9:14 AM
Author: shimmering depressive step-uncle's house

Bump for any MFEs in the day crew.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511222)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 10:23 AM
Author: curious ticket booth trump supporter

based on my knowledge there are two schools here: intermittent fasting (ie 5/2 diet) and long term ultra low calorie lifestyles.

imho, something like the 5/2 works because as you said it's fairly simple to follow and you still get to eat "normally" for the majority of the time

those who push the ultra low cal lifestyle do so for the supposed longevity benefits as much as (if not more so than) any weight loss consequences.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511386)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 11:33 AM
Author: massive kitchen

I did that stupid Master Cleanse lemonade diet 12 years ago and went from 181 to 159 in 12 days. First three days kind of sucked, but after that I stopped caring about food. Have to admit I felt pretty amazing afterwards and it killed my appetite for junk/fast food and booze for a few months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27511763)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 1:53 PM
Author: Ebony domesticated bawdyhouse

Why was it stupid then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27525303)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:26 PM
Author: Wild sound barrier

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549128)



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Date: March 18th, 2015 1:03 PM
Author: Light well-lubricated idea he suggested

You shouldn't go much longer than about 36 hours. Your body starts to break down muscle about 48 hours after digesting your last meal. Your testosterone and hgh levels go through the roof at about 16 hours of no food, stay that way until about 30 hours (HGH goes up 2000% after 24 hours), and start to tank about 36 hours in. IF also keeps insulin low.

IF is way better. Most of the benefits from fasting kick in at about 16-20 hours. Not much of a point going beyond 24 from a physiological viewpoint. But no harm until about 36.

If you do IF though, you need to keep a consistent eating window or you'll fuck with your hormones and circadian rhythm. Also not a good idea to fast without medical supervision if you're diabetic. Also, men can fast longer than women (it's a hormonal thing).

Lean gains is a 16/8; you can also do a 20/4 or even a 23/1; 5/2 is okay. I do one meal on a cut/maintenance and two meals on a bulk. There's also the warrior diet but that's not "true" IF.

Also, don't eat post-workout. Ride that HGH wave. When you eat, insulin goes up which brings down HGH and Test.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27512205)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 9:54 PM
Author: idiotic tanning salon partner

Can you explain more not eating after workout? I thought traditional idea was you wanted that post workout feed with insulin spike to pack nutrients into muscles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549665)



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Date: May 16th, 2015 3:04 PM
Author: Light well-lubricated idea he suggested

After working out (heavy weights/low-moderate rep) your body releases HGH and Testosterone. When you eat, your body releases insulin. When Insulin goes up HGH/Test tanks, and the opposite. So you want to ride that wave for about 4-5 hours post workout. You'll still get the insulin spike benefit (whatever your first meal is up to 24 hours post-workout).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27903427)



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Date: March 20th, 2015 1:05 PM
Author: autistic selfie market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27524920)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:25 PM
Author: autistic selfie market



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:27 PM
Author: Ebony domesticated bawdyhouse

I'll let you know in 7 - 10 days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549133)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:28 PM
Author: autistic selfie market

This is why I bumped this. Please document this powerful transformation. TINLA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549138)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:40 PM
Author: Ebony domesticated bawdyhouse

Have you done this or are you considering it? Or are you just ruthlessly mocking me?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549213)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:43 PM
Author: autistic selfie market

1. I have not done this. 2. I am not ruthlessly mocking you--nor would I ever ruthlessly mock you. I love the idea of one of our brothers undertaking an extended fast and documenting the effects. It's poignant in its own way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549239)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:50 PM
Author: Ebony domesticated bawdyhouse

Cool, bro. I figure I've done worse things to my body. How bad could it be? I'll update my progress.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549281)



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Date: March 24th, 2015 8:51 PM
Author: autistic selfie market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27549295)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:35 PM
Author: autistic selfie market

(RTG, collapsed in corner of office, hand outstretched toward computer on desk against far wall, one last hoap for logging in)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632869)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:37 PM
Author: Ebony domesticated bawdyhouse

Hey man, I lasted about 3.5 days and then switched over to intermittent fasting. I'm doing full-day eat today, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632881)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:38 PM
Author: autistic selfie market

TYTY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632896)



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Date: March 31st, 2015 5:12 PM
Author: autistic selfie market



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:39 PM
Author: cream big address

ITT not a lot of Jainbros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632904)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:44 PM
Author: Glassy spot

I think if they go too long its called starving to death, which can be fatal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632946)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:45 PM
Author: autistic selfie market

I'm not sure if this is true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632958)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:48 PM
Author: Glassy spot

To be fair, I'm not a doctor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2832872&forum_id=2#27632987)



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Date: April 6th, 2015 3:48 PM
Author: autistic selfie market



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Date: April 13th, 2015 7:50 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy trip turdskin locus



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Date: April 13th, 2015 7:48 PM
Author: autistic selfie market



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Date: April 13th, 2015 8:25 PM
Author: Glittery indigo degenerate



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Date: May 16th, 2015 2:47 PM
Author: autistic selfie market



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Date: May 16th, 2015 2:57 PM
Author: Wild sound barrier



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Date: July 22nd, 2015 11:35 PM
Author: autistic selfie market



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