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What if a student backs ouf an offer, blacklist?

ouf new word for out of If a student accepts an offer but...
cobalt locus factory reset button
  11/12/05
First of all, you'd have to give the signing bonus back.
free-loading ratface senate
  11/12/05
How long would you have to work there before you didn't have...
twinkling point gunner
  11/12/05
Well, he did "sign." They never said he had to sh...
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
It seems unlikely that you'd work in the same field (i.e. bi...
Deranged clown azn
  11/12/05
how would the other firms know, would the recruiting people ...
cobalt locus factory reset button
  11/12/05
Recruiters generally know other recruiters in the city. The...
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
so the logical solution to this problem is to change your na...
cobalt locus factory reset button
  11/12/05
Or kill the recruiter.
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
would you take the murder case (pro bono?)
cobalt locus factory reset button
  11/12/05
You don't want me to take your murder case. I got a B+ when...
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
Unfortunately it would probably even spread to similar firms...
Deranged clown azn
  11/12/05
so go from biglaw to ambulance chasing?
cobalt locus factory reset button
  11/12/05
Or government, or PI. Why would you renege on a biglaw o...
Deranged clown azn
  11/12/05
i wouldnt
cobalt locus factory reset button
  11/12/05
People talk, the word would definitely spread, I've seen sim...
Deranged clown azn
  11/12/05
i see. makes sense, people will probably forget in a year a...
cobalt locus factory reset button
  11/12/05
Right. IT would only be a problem if you didn't have anothe...
Deranged clown azn
  11/12/05
People talk but they rarely remember. Unless you do somethi...
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
"Cleary diver." Explain?
Naked Appetizing Bawdyhouse Hairy Legs
  11/12/05
Girls works at Cleary, gets drunk at firm function, strips d...
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
Holy shit. Urban legend in the legal field? EDIT: Is she ...
Naked Appetizing Bawdyhouse Hairy Legs
  11/12/05
Just happened last summer. I have classes with her. No leg...
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
please respond to edit
cobalt locus factory reset button
  11/12/05
I have been mean enough on this thread.
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
are her job prospects still better than meanest_fish's thoug...
cobalt locus factory reset button
  11/12/05
LOL. She's on LR.
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
"Is she hot?" http://www.swimnyc.org/UserBio.as...
Unhinged temple organic girlfriend
  11/12/05
Sad. She's easy on the eyes and smart but sounds like a trou...
Naked Appetizing Bawdyhouse Hairy Legs
  11/12/05
Easy on the eyes? Ok...
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
Troubles with alcohol... that's half of Virginia Law School.
Unhinged temple organic girlfriend
  11/12/05
Ha ha... more than half.
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
I feel kinda bad for the Cleary diver. I think she came up i...
twinkling point gunner
  11/12/05
I do not feel bad for stupid people. She is smart, but very...
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
That's not even why she got fired, though, is it?
Deranged clown azn
  11/12/05
Not fired. She got an offer. I'm pretty sure about this on...
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
There are people who are pretty sure she didn't.
Unhinged temple organic girlfriend
  11/12/05
Here's my evidence that doesn't involve comments from others...
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
"They gave me a sheet that listed summer associates fro...
Unhinged temple organic girlfriend
  11/12/05
If you canned someone, you wouldn't list them as a reference...
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
Why not? They could have come to an understanding. Clara Von...
Unhinged temple organic girlfriend
  11/12/05
Like I said, I have other info, but I cannot reveal it. Eit...
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
I would hope not. What a ditz. How embarrassing for Cleary.
Unhinged temple organic girlfriend
  11/12/05
Yeah. She deserves the attention. Cleary does not.
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
I read on that penn law blog that she got fired, but for som...
Deranged clown azn
  11/12/05
I believe this is what happened to Harvard's Yam Bags.
Unhinged temple organic girlfriend
  11/12/05
who's that
cobalt locus factory reset button
  11/12/05
Case-in-point. See how quickly we have forgotten about the ...
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
what do you think is worse. never showing up for work, or sh...
cobalt locus factory reset button
  11/12/05
I would tell them you aren't coming or come for a little whi...
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
minimum time committment for the latter? 2 weeks?
cobalt locus factory reset button
  11/12/05
Probably a month. I have no idea, though.
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
you're going to a 2nd market righ.
cobalt locus factory reset button
  11/12/05
Yes. Why?
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05
unrelated this anything on here
cobalt locus factory reset button
  11/12/05
What person?
Deranged clown azn
  11/12/05
The hypothetical one.
exciting theater stage juggernaut
  11/12/05


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Date: November 12th, 2005 4:45 PM
Author: cobalt locus factory reset button

ouf new word for out of

If a student accepts an offer but then doesn't show up for work and just takes the signing/summer bonus, blacklisted forever from the legal profession forever?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4275893)





Date: November 12th, 2005 5:58 PM
Author: free-loading ratface senate

First of all, you'd have to give the signing bonus back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276351)





Date: November 12th, 2005 5:59 PM
Author: twinkling point gunner

How long would you have to work there before you didn't have to give it back? One day? Until the end of the year?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276356)





Date: November 12th, 2005 5:59 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

Well, he did "sign." They never said he had to show up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276358)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:00 PM
Author: Deranged clown azn

It seems unlikely that you'd work in the same field (i.e. biglaw, govt, whatever) in that city for a long time, assuming you didn't just not show up b/c you already had taken another job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276367)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:04 PM
Author: cobalt locus factory reset button

how would the other firms know, would the recruiting people at the firm you reneged on spread the word?

can you simplify your second sentence? i don't undertand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276404)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:06 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

Recruiters generally know other recruiters in the city. They talk. If they know, everyone knows.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276416)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:07 PM
Author: cobalt locus factory reset button

so the logical solution to this problem is to change your name or move to a new town?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276426)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:07 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

Or kill the recruiter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276428)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:09 PM
Author: cobalt locus factory reset button

would you take the murder case (pro bono?)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276448)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:10 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

You don't want me to take your murder case. I got a B+ when I did remember all of Crim Law. I would most certainly get a F- now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276457)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:10 PM
Author: Deranged clown azn

Unfortunately it would probably even spread to similar firms in a new town. The solution would be to work in a different area of law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276451)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:10 PM
Author: cobalt locus factory reset button

so go from biglaw to ambulance chasing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276461)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:11 PM
Author: Deranged clown azn

Or government, or PI.

Why would you renege on a biglaw offer if you wanted to do biglaw, anyway?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276468)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:12 PM
Author: cobalt locus factory reset button

i wouldnt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276484)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:08 PM
Author: Deranged clown azn

People talk, the word would definitely spread, I've seen similar things happen.

If you reneged to go to another firm, you wouldn't have as much of a problem. You'd already have a job and wouldn't have to worry about looking for one, and by the time you were looking again you'd probably have built up enough work history to override any bad repuation you might have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276432)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:09 PM
Author: cobalt locus factory reset button

i see. makes sense, people will probably forget in a year anyway; everything moves so fast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276444)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:10 PM
Author: Deranged clown azn

Right. IT would only be a problem if you didn't have another job when you reneged on the other offer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276465)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:09 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

People talk but they rarely remember. Unless you do something extreme (e.g., Cleary diver), you will be talked about and then forgotten about. It is the immediate effect that is a problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276449)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:10 PM
Author: Naked Appetizing Bawdyhouse Hairy Legs

"Cleary diver." Explain?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276462)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:11 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

Girls works at Cleary, gets drunk at firm function, strips down, and jumps in Hudson. Gets offer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276469)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:12 PM
Author: Naked Appetizing Bawdyhouse Hairy Legs

Holy shit. Urban legend in the legal field?

EDIT: Is she hot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276482)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:13 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

Just happened last summer. I have classes with her. No legend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276489)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:13 PM
Author: cobalt locus factory reset button

please respond to edit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276498)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:14 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

I have been mean enough on this thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276501)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:15 PM
Author: cobalt locus factory reset button

are her job prospects still better than meanest_fish's though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276510)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:16 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

LOL. She's on LR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276530)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:21 PM
Author: Unhinged temple organic girlfriend

"Is she hot?"

http://www.swimnyc.org/UserBio.aspx?UserID=101200

http://www.coloradocollege.edu/idprog/Neuroscience/Alumni%20pics/Vondrich2.jpg

http://www.coloradocollege.edu/idprog/Neuroscience/Alumni.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276594)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:26 PM
Author: Naked Appetizing Bawdyhouse Hairy Legs

Sad. She's easy on the eyes and smart but sounds like a troubled young woman. I hope she can get help.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276653)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:29 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

Easy on the eyes? Ok...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276667)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:29 PM
Author: Unhinged temple organic girlfriend

Troubles with alcohol... that's half of Virginia Law School.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276671)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:30 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

Ha ha... more than half.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276679)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:10 PM
Author: twinkling point gunner

I feel kinda bad for the Cleary diver. I think she came up in every interview lunch I did this semester.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276464)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:12 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

I do not feel bad for stupid people. She is smart, but very, very stupid at the same time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276485)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:14 PM
Author: Deranged clown azn

That's not even why she got fired, though, is it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276507)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:16 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

Not fired. She got an offer. I'm pretty sure about this one, but can't say more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276526)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:16 PM
Author: Unhinged temple organic girlfriend

There are people who are pretty sure she didn't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276541)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:19 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

Here's my evidence that doesn't involve comments from others... I interviewed with Cleary. They gave me a sheet that listed summer associates from last summer so I could talk to them about their experiences at the firm. Her name was on there. If she didn't get an offer, I doubt it would have been. Not great advertisement unless she is happy with the outcome.

I was dared to use the sheet of paper as an excuse to ask her about her summer at Cleary. I was too chicken.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276571)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:22 PM
Author: Unhinged temple organic girlfriend

"They gave me a sheet that listed summer associates from last summer so I could talk to them about their experiences at the firm."

That doesn't mean she got an offer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276612)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:23 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

If you canned someone, you wouldn't list them as a reference, would you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276622)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:26 PM
Author: Unhinged temple organic girlfriend

Why not? They could have come to an understanding. Clara Vondrich no longer works for Cleary, gets a cold offer, some alcohol counseling, etc. She doesn't bad mouth the firm while she looks for other work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276652)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:28 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

Like I said, I have other info, but I cannot reveal it. Either way, I don't think she is returning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276666)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:30 PM
Author: Unhinged temple organic girlfriend

I would hope not. What a ditz. How embarrassing for Cleary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276676)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:31 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

Yeah. She deserves the attention. Cleary does not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276684)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:19 PM
Author: Deranged clown azn

I read on that penn law blog that she got fired, but for something else; can't remember what now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276572)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:16 PM
Author: Unhinged temple organic girlfriend

I believe this is what happened to Harvard's Yam Bags.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276527)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:16 PM
Author: cobalt locus factory reset button

who's that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276533)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:17 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

Case-in-point. See how quickly we have forgotten about the person who backed out of an offer. There is always someone dumber that is worth talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276545)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:18 PM
Author: cobalt locus factory reset button

what do you think is worse. never showing up for work, or showing up and quitting the first day (hey it's at will).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276557)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:22 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

I would tell them you aren't coming or come for a little while and then quit. The latter has the benefit of showing that you tried and it just didn't work out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276603)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:22 PM
Author: cobalt locus factory reset button

minimum time committment for the latter?

2 weeks?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276610)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:23 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

Probably a month. I have no idea, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276615)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:24 PM
Author: cobalt locus factory reset button

you're going to a 2nd market righ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276628)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:24 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

Yes. Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276632)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:25 PM
Author: cobalt locus factory reset button

unrelated this anything on here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276640)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:24 PM
Author: Deranged clown azn

What person?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276634)





Date: November 12th, 2005 6:25 PM
Author: exciting theater stage juggernaut

The hypothetical one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276639)