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What if a student backs ouf an offer, blacklist?
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Date: November 12th, 2005 4:45 PM Author: electric crackhouse ouf new word for out of
If a student accepts an offer but then doesn't show up for work and just takes the signing/summer bonus, blacklisted forever from the legal profession forever?
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Date: November 12th, 2005 5:58 PM Author: medicated mediation First of all, you'd have to give the signing bonus back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276351) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 5:59 PM Author: chartreuse point How long would you have to work there before you didn't have to give it back? One day? Until the end of the year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276356) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 5:59 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot Well, he did "sign." They never said he had to show up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276358) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:00 PM Author: Lascivious brunch It seems unlikely that you'd work in the same field (i.e. biglaw, govt, whatever) in that city for a long time, assuming you didn't just not show up b/c you already had taken another job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276367) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:04 PM Author: electric crackhouse how would the other firms know, would the recruiting people at the firm you reneged on spread the word?
can you simplify your second sentence? i don't undertand it. |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:06 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot Recruiters generally know other recruiters in the city. They talk. If they know, everyone knows. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276416) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:07 PM Author: electric crackhouse so the logical solution to this problem is to change your name or move to a new town? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276426) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:07 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot Or kill the recruiter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276428) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:09 PM Author: electric crackhouse would you take the murder case (pro bono?) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276448) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:10 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot You don't want me to take your murder case. I got a B+ when I did remember all of Crim Law. I would most certainly get a F- now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276457) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:10 PM Author: Lascivious brunch Unfortunately it would probably even spread to similar firms in a new town. The solution would be to work in a different area of law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276451) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:10 PM Author: electric crackhouse so go from biglaw to ambulance chasing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276461) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:11 PM Author: Lascivious brunch Or government, or PI.
Why would you renege on a biglaw offer if you wanted to do biglaw, anyway? |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:12 PM Author: electric crackhouse i wouldnt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276484) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:08 PM Author: Lascivious brunch People talk, the word would definitely spread, I've seen similar things happen.
If you reneged to go to another firm, you wouldn't have as much of a problem. You'd already have a job and wouldn't have to worry about looking for one, and by the time you were looking again you'd probably have built up enough work history to override any bad repuation you might have. |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:09 PM Author: electric crackhouse i see. makes sense, people will probably forget in a year anyway; everything moves so fast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276444) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:10 PM Author: Lascivious brunch Right. IT would only be a problem if you didn't have another job when you reneged on the other offer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276465) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:09 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot People talk but they rarely remember. Unless you do something extreme (e.g., Cleary diver), you will be talked about and then forgotten about. It is the immediate effect that is a problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276449) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:10 PM Author: contagious greedy theater stage "Cleary diver." Explain? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276462) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:11 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot Girls works at Cleary, gets drunk at firm function, strips down, and jumps in Hudson. Gets offer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276469) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:12 PM Author: contagious greedy theater stage Holy shit. Urban legend in the legal field?
EDIT: Is she hot? |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:13 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot Just happened last summer. I have classes with her. No legend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276489) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:13 PM Author: electric crackhouse please respond to edit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276498) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:14 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot I have been mean enough on this thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276501) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:15 PM Author: electric crackhouse are her job prospects still better than meanest_fish's though? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276510) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:16 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot LOL. She's on LR. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276530) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:21 PM Author: Exhilarant Pale National Security Agency "Is she hot?"
http://www.swimnyc.org/UserBio.aspx?UserID=101200 http://www.coloradocollege.edu/idprog/Neuroscience/Alumni%20pics/Vondrich2.jpg http://www.coloradocollege.edu/idprog/Neuroscience/Alumni.html |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:26 PM Author: contagious greedy theater stage Sad. She's easy on the eyes and smart but sounds like a troubled young woman. I hope she can get help. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276653) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:29 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot Easy on the eyes? Ok... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276667) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:29 PM Author: Exhilarant Pale National Security Agency Troubles with alcohol... that's half of Virginia Law School. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276671) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:30 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot Ha ha... more than half. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276679) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:10 PM Author: chartreuse point I feel kinda bad for the Cleary diver. I think she came up in every interview lunch I did this semester. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276464) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:12 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot I do not feel bad for stupid people. She is smart, but very, very stupid at the same time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276485) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:14 PM Author: Lascivious brunch That's not even why she got fired, though, is it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276507) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:16 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot Not fired. She got an offer. I'm pretty sure about this one, but can't say more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276526) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:16 PM Author: Exhilarant Pale National Security Agency There are people who are pretty sure she didn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276541) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:19 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot Here's my evidence that doesn't involve comments from others... I interviewed with Cleary. They gave me a sheet that listed summer associates from last summer so I could talk to them about their experiences at the firm. Her name was on there. If she didn't get an offer, I doubt it would have been. Not great advertisement unless she is happy with the outcome.
I was dared to use the sheet of paper as an excuse to ask her about her summer at Cleary. I was too chicken. |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:22 PM Author: Exhilarant Pale National Security Agency "They gave me a sheet that listed summer associates from last summer so I could talk to them about their experiences at the firm."
That doesn't mean she got an offer. |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:23 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot If you canned someone, you wouldn't list them as a reference, would you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276622) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:26 PM Author: Exhilarant Pale National Security Agency Why not? They could have come to an understanding. Clara Vondrich no longer works for Cleary, gets a cold offer, some alcohol counseling, etc. She doesn't bad mouth the firm while she looks for other work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276652) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:28 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot Like I said, I have other info, but I cannot reveal it. Either way, I don't think she is returning. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276666) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:30 PM Author: Exhilarant Pale National Security Agency I would hope not. What a ditz. How embarrassing for Cleary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276676) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:31 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot Yeah. She deserves the attention. Cleary does not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276684) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:19 PM Author: Lascivious brunch I read on that penn law blog that she got fired, but for something else; can't remember what now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276572) |
Date: November 12th, 2005 6:16 PM Author: Exhilarant Pale National Security Agency I believe this is what happened to Harvard's Yam Bags. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276527) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:16 PM Author: electric crackhouse who's that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276533) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:17 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot Case-in-point. See how quickly we have forgotten about the person who backed out of an offer. There is always someone dumber that is worth talking about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276545) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:18 PM Author: electric crackhouse what do you think is worse. never showing up for work, or showing up and quitting the first day (hey it's at will). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276557) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:22 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot I would tell them you aren't coming or come for a little while and then quit. The latter has the benefit of showing that you tried and it just didn't work out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276603) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:22 PM Author: electric crackhouse minimum time committment for the latter?
2 weeks? |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:23 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot Probably a month. I have no idea, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276615) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:24 PM Author: electric crackhouse you're going to a 2nd market righ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276628) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:24 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot Yes. Why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276632) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:25 PM Author: electric crackhouse unrelated this anything on here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276640) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:24 PM Author: Lascivious brunch What person? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276634) |
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Date: November 12th, 2005 6:25 PM Author: ocher infuriating idiot The hypothetical one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=297273&forum_id=2#4276639) |