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serious ?: why is rape that bad?

from a guy's perspective, it's the same as physical assault....
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many men probably agree with the women and not with you.
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really? and i'm talking about forced male anal rape here, wh...
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We know what you're talking about. I think most men would p...
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evidently, it's not, given that 90% of women achieve orgasm.
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I agree that its no different than a guy being physically as...
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It's a more personal invasion. That said, a man raping a st...
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"it's a more personal invasion" i feel like thi...
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Now I remember why I stopped posting here
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could you get off your high horse for a moment and explain?
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if feminists really want women to be treated like men they s...
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Benzo, I thought you were retiring.
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Not flame, here is the truth: it's actually not a big deal f...
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reminds me of an article i read a while ago by someone who w...
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I agree though we should still shame perpetrators like nobod...
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cr. it's entirely circular: we insist on making a big deal ...
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feels liek a flame question but rape is a huge deal for w...
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so you're saying that women are evolutionarily hard-wired to...
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well trauma is a side effect, i don't think it is a great th...
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if there is an evolutionary reason to be aghast abt rape it ...
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all credited points
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marriage is to recent of a thing to be a strong evolutionary...
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jfc lol if you think wizards have done or are doing any of t...
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well thats exactly my point. once you establish a strong sti...
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so why is rape bad? millions of years of women thinking &...
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i didn't say rapists were chads. i said that stigma against ...
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you make little sense. your evolutionary arguments are empty...
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having a child is incredibly costly. one of the many costs i...
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why aren't women today traumatized by casual sex?
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because if it is consensual, the man has passed whatever sub...
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BUT SHE WASTED 10 OF HER MOST FERTILE YEARS CHASING COCK WIT...
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well at least i finally got you to betray how fucking derang...
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so 1 act of betraying her evolutionary impulses = RAPE TRAUM...
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you seem to not grasp the idea that evolution creates natura...
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Yeah he doesn't understand that evo psych isn't conscious. ...
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well okay, um, i have my OWN evolutionary theories. women...
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OP, scrawling formulae on the walls of his dorm room, trying...
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(pondering why his balls hurt, cracks open Charles Darwin)
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They are.
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EVOLUTIONARILY WOMEN NEEDED MEN TO HELP THEM RAISE THEIR KID...
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how does that translate into psychological trauma today when...
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I don't think you understand evolutionary psychology. It ta...
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people don't operate under "evolutionary imperatives&qu...
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so what about the impulse to reproduce at a young age, or st...
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XO would argue that women do have an impulse to reproduce at...
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and yet, the most extreme xo poster wouldn't advocate going ...
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aversion to rape and trauma are not the same thing.
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seriously its hard to argue with this guy because he has all...
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It's more that he just doesn't understand the basic principl...
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THEN WHY DO PEOPLE EAT ICE CREAM? THE EVOLUTIONARY PURPOSE O...
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no you dumbass, i'm pointing out specific behaviors but ther...
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they don't have an impulse to reproduce. they have an impuls...
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so "impulse" covers having anonymous sex with good...
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i don't think i suggested that. you seem to be mostly intere...
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CR Evolution takes generations to respond to environmenta...
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well, no convincing explanations so far. guess i'll go wi...
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women don't want to be raped for the same reason you don't w...
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when you freeze your sperm, and protect your ability to proc...
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You changed the subject. So it's NOT about reproductive abil...
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An most people (reasonable and unreasonable alike) will cont...
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JFC you're dumb. MFE's evolutionary argument explained it p...
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just do "here's a non-falsifiable evolutionary 'argumen...
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how do i know your pain from being kicked in the balls is re...
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lol at this "rape seems like no big deal for women"...
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yeah, i would just go from "dude howling in pain at get...
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sorry that you find evolutionary explanations for obvious sh...
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its an anachronism, historically a raped chick was literally...
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http://i.imgur.com/uDUVPEw.jpg Rape is just a social cons...
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It's worse than murder. It's rape.
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Huh? On no planet is rape worse than murder.
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LOL all straight men would rather be beaten within an inch o...
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According to Posner, it prevents efficient bargaining.
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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:01 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

from a guy's perspective, it's the same as physical assault. i'd rather be raped than knocked out or beaten for any amount of time.

i really don't understand why women think it's just below murder, or worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28759902)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:57 PM
Author: ruby private investor

http://i.imgur.com/uDUVPEw.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760350)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 2:15 PM
Author: glittery saffron cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760481)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:18 PM
Author: mint site trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760835)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:47 PM
Author: milky abode

I do wonder about the pooping

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761078)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 10:13 PM
Author: fluffy nudist scourge upon the earth nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28763922)



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Date: September 16th, 2015 2:25 AM
Author: Aromatic Sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28765376)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:15 PM
Author: misanthropic dilemma

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761304)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 8:02 PM
Author: Yapping spectacular orchestra pit roommate

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28762817)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 9:52 PM
Author: fuchsia godawful dingle berry genital piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28763739)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 10:01 PM
Author: Motley Place Of Business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28763808)



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Date: September 16th, 2015 3:35 AM
Author: pungent trailer park hominid

cr rape 101

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28765466)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:02 PM
Author: clear station sex offender

many men probably agree with the women and not with you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28759912)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:03 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

really? and i'm talking about forced male anal rape here, which is worse than vaginal.

sure it'd hurt, and it'd be humiliating, but it's not so TRAUMATIC as the prospect of getting knocked the fuck out, losing your teeth, getting a broken nose, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28759926)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:27 PM
Author: Bespoke forum kitty

We know what you're talking about. I think most men would prefer a broken nose to anal rape.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760070)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:03 PM
Author: Galvanic medicated theater stage

evidently, it's not, given that 90% of women achieve orgasm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28759927)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:04 PM
Author: Brindle Hairy Legs People Who Are Hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28759930)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:11 PM
Author: bat shit crazy 180 temple brethren

I agree that its no different than a guy being physically assaulted. Not sure why its viewed so much worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28759974)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:17 PM
Author: appetizing alpha

It's a more personal invasion. That said, a man raping a straight man is much worse than a man raping a woman, because of the added sexual orientation shame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760019)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:25 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

"it's a more personal invasion"

i feel like this is so subjective though, and it appeals to all those antiquated sex-negative attitudes that liberals are supposed to be against.

i feel like getting clocked by a gang of "youths" playing the knockout game, for apparently no reason and with no warning, is more humiliating than getting raped. it would fuck with my psychology a lot more given that i would be afraid to walk around in public.

should we have a special category for that too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760065)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:14 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Fighting Clown Locale

Now I remember why I stopped posting here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28759994)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:21 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

could you get off your high horse for a moment and explain?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760049)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:10 PM
Author: Brindle Hairy Legs People Who Are Hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761267)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:14 PM
Author: light angry french chef newt

if feminists really want women to be treated like men they shld treat it just as a violent assault on a man... the fact society treats it almost like murder clearly is sexist, a way for society to put a higher value on a woman's sexuality than on a man's, feminists shld not need special protections for their vag, that in of itself is sexist



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28759996)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:14 PM
Author: massive pea-brained office

Benzo, I thought you were retiring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28759997)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:29 PM
Author: Emerald state

Not flame, here is the truth: it's actually not a big deal for women, but it *is* a big deal for men.

a man is emasculated by rape. he's symbolically murdered. a woman has no masculinity to lose, so she is only confirmed in her passive femininity by rape.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760084)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:34 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

reminds me of an article i read a while ago by someone who worked with survivors of child sex abuse. she argued that most of the trauma that survivors feel is created many years after the fact, after they've understood what happened and have internalized society's message as to how traumatized they "should" feel.

obviously not talking about really violent kinds of abuse, but e.g. daddy showing you his peepee and touching yours is going to be more confusing than anything else. not much trauma there.

but all the outrage about how traumatizing sex abuse necessarily IS, creates the trauma in survivors' minds because they think that's how they should feel. and this unnecessarily ruins many survivors' lives when they could have been a lot happier without society inundating them with this message.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760129)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 2:14 PM
Author: Hilarious Legal Warrant Lay

I agree though we should still shame perpetrators like nobody's business just like any other kind of pervert.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760478)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:02 PM
Author: Emerald state

cr.

it's entirely circular: we insist on making a big deal of rape---> consequently, rape is a big deal.

the truth is that a woman can be 'raped' and suffer absolutely no physical/emotional harm (indeed, she is likely to enjoy herself). so, to claim that rape is in any way categorically similar to 'murder', or injurious assault, is ludicrous.

we 'socially construct' the harm, by insisting that it exists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761210)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:06 PM
Author: charismatic nubile locus

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761240)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:31 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

feels liek a flame question but

rape is a huge deal for women because children are fucking costly as hell. theres a substantial chance that you will die because of the kid, and even if you don't, you essentially lose a huge chunk of your life and nutrition to the thing.

you might say that in a world of abortion this is not a big deal, but you're asking why something is emotionally terrible, and there is an evolutionary answer at play. getting dressed down and humiliated by your asshole boss every day shouldn't be a problem at all, it only bothers you because there are tens of thousands of years of human evolution telling you that that situation is life threatening and you need to either fight back or get the fuck away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760106)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:36 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

so you're saying that women are evolutionarily hard-wired to be traumatized by rape in a way that men will never experience or understand.

maybe, but i don't buy it. plus, your argument has veered way out of lane for sex-positive liberals to agree with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760151)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:42 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

well trauma is a side effect, i don't think it is a great thing in and of itself from an evo perspective.

and i don't give a fuck if my argument is consistent with lib ideological garbage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760217)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:42 PM
Author: light angry french chef newt

if there is an evolutionary reason to be aghast abt rape it likely is more abt social pressure created by being raped i.e. other men wont want to marry you, you are shunned, other women think u are used up etc.... much of the "trauma" is related to these things, not to any long term physical after effects

biologically rape has likely been a fuking major factor in human creation, we are all the products of rape, multiple rapes in fact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760215)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:44 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

all credited points

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760238)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:50 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

marriage is to recent of a thing to be a strong evolutionary pressure

the point is that mate selectivity improves offspring fitness. the more selective you are, all things equal, the better off your line will be. there's no real evolutionary "limit" to how unenthusiastic a woman should be about getting fucked by a wizard, so it makes sense that over time the preferred lines have been women for whom the thought of having sex with a wizard causes them to enter a catatonic state.

the fact that "rapes still happen" doesn't do anything to undermine this point. the point is that the amount of rape that happens is significantly lower than it could have been, because women are naturally vigilant and risk-averse. women who exercise control of their breeding have stronger, chaddier offspring. and women who end up getting raped end up raising a brood of XO posters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760293)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:51 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

jfc lol if you think wizards have done or are doing any of the raping

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760309)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:54 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

well thats exactly my point. once you establish a strong stigma around rape, then you have actually created a selective pressure that changes who actually gets to successfully rape. wizards don't not-rape because they are kind empathetic souls. they don't rape because they don't have the opportunity or ability, and this is a result of the behavior of women and the rules of society.

since rape is not socially acceptable, a larger than "natural" amount of it tends to happen in the context of military conquest or warfare. this makes the rapists chaddier than you'd otherwise expect, for example

even quasi-chad "date rape" can be viewed as a rape strategy that evolved in a system of rape stigma. date rape by definition means that the woman is "dating" or otherwise willing to tolerate the presence of the guy, which means he has already demonstrated some minimum level of fitness.

as you point out, wizards can't date rape girls because girls won't even be around wizards in the first place. but that's my point. wizards can't rape girls precisely because of anti-wizard mating strategies that emerged a million years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760331)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 2:01 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

so why is rape bad?

millions of years of women thinking "Rape = CHADS!"

hasn't produced a "RAPE = GOOD" evolutionary hard-wired link in their heads?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760390)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 2:18 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

i didn't say rapists were chads. i said that stigma against rape means that the quality of dudes that tend to pull it off becomes slightly pushed towards the chad direction. as in they have operational legs and the physical strength necessary to carry a backpack.

given two otherwise identical girls, one that will fuck whoever and one that is conventionally picky by western standards, girl #2 is going to very likely end up with a better evolutionary outcome. even if you are pushing the quality of rapists slightly more towards fitness (by making them go pass basic training first), there's still no reason why the aversion to rape should suddenly reverse.

just think about it this way. lets assume there is a girl with the mutation that you propose. she has 0 fear of rape and so takes no precautions against it. any dude that makes a pass at her she simply accepts and lets him fuck her.

what do you expect will be the IQ of her first child?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760498)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:27 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

you make little sense. your evolutionary arguments are empty.

a girl who has the "fuck a lot of guys" gene may not have the best children, but if she has twice as many children, that can guarantee evolutionary fitness too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760908)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:35 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

having a child is incredibly costly. one of the many costs is the opportunity cost of not having somebody else's child for a year or more.

extremely permissive women are not, in practice, likely to have more children than more selective women. they are simply going to have a handful of children of lower quality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760974)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:37 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

why aren't women today traumatized by casual sex?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760984)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:41 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

because if it is consensual, the man has passed whatever subconscious fitness threshold the woman is applying to the mating, so it isn't triggering her defcon-5 uterus-protection mechanisms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761016)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:45 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

BUT SHE WASTED 10 OF HER MOST FERTILE YEARS CHASING COCK WITHOUT REPRODUCING WITH THE MAXIMUM CHAD SHE COULD FIND. HER TRAUMA CENTERS MUST BE GOING BALLISTIC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761054)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:46 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

well at least i finally got you to betray how fucking deranged you are. i guess we can close this thread up now.

"BUT SHE WASTED 10 OF HER MOST FERTILE YEARS CHASING COCK WITHOUT REPRODUCING WITH THE MAXIMUM CHAD SHE COULD FIND. HER TRAUMA CENTERS MUST BE GOING BALLISTIC."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761065)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:47 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

so 1 act of betraying her evolutionary impulses = RAPE TRAUMA

but 10 years of going against her evolutionary impulses = NBD

got it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761081)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:53 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

you seem to not grasp the idea that evolution creates natural impulses, but not actual strategic thinking.

the impulse is to have sex with fit mates. a woman who spends her 20s "chasing cock" by fucking chads and avoiding virgin losers like you is perfectly consistent with my theory.

similarly, guys seem to be perfectly happy having sex with girls who are not ovulating. this isn't inconsistent with the claim that the male sex drive serves an evolutionary function.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761133)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:58 PM
Author: charismatic nubile locus

Yeah he doesn't understand that evo psych isn't conscious. When a woman meets an attractive man she isn't consciously considering having children with him, she just feels sexually attracted to him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761176)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:58 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

well okay, um, i have my OWN evolutionary theories.

women should abhor single rapes because it could possibly be a low-status loser doing the raping.

but women should LOVE public group rapes because this most likely signifies a changing of the societal power structure, wherein the men of her society are conquered through war and another group of men take her as their sexual property.

so, because wars and the rapes that ensued from them played a large role in human evolutionary history, i have come to these trenchant conclusions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761178)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:01 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

OP, scrawling formulae on the walls of his dorm room, trying to discover the perfect rape

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761199)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:02 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

(pondering why his balls hurt, cracks open Charles Darwin)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761211)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:51 PM
Author: charismatic nubile locus

They are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761117)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:51 PM
Author: charismatic nubile locus

EVOLUTIONARILY WOMEN NEEDED MEN TO HELP THEM RAISE THEIR KIDS YOU IDIOT.

If it was just about popping out kids every women could easily find enough sex to remain pregnant from 12 to 50. Evolutionarily, the female imperative isn't just to get knocked up, but to get knocked up by a high quality male who will help her care for their kids.

Do you understand why being knocked over the head and fucked by some strange dude before he runs off is not evolutionarily advantageous for a woman?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761110)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:53 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

how does that translate into psychological trauma today when women are flouting all their other evolutionary imperatives?

why do i even bother?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761128)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:57 PM
Author: charismatic nubile locus

I don't think you understand evolutionary psychology. It takes hundreds of generations to change; it doesn't change in fifty years because of the advent of birth control.

Haven't you ever taken an into bio course?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761164)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:58 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

people don't operate under "evolutionary imperatives"

people act based on impulses

impulses that increase offspring fitness spread.

those impulses become seemingly default behavior

that behavior continues even when changes to the environment are created, because evolution is slow.

over the next 100,000 years, i think you will see the stigma against date rape relax slightly. which is great news for your future rape-conceived progeny, OP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761177)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:00 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

so what about the impulse to reproduce at a young age, or start reproducing once they've come of age?

why do you get to cherry-pick your impulses??!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761188)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:02 PM
Author: charismatic nubile locus

XO would argue that women do have an impulse to reproduce at a young age and that this is why shrews are unhappy. Pay attention.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761209)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:05 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

and yet, the most extreme xo poster wouldn't advocate going back to the way things were done in pre-modern times.

and as far as i know, trauma from rape has INCREASED from the past when rape, minus the social stigma, was not as damaging to one's psychology.

the point is that evolutionary theories are an interesting, dull background noise, but LOL at anyone who automatically reaches for them in a conversation such as this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761231)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:08 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

aversion to rape and trauma are not the same thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761257)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:07 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

seriously its hard to argue with this guy because he has all of the rage and misogyny of a terrible XO poster, but seems to actively position himself against many XO misogyny memes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761249)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:08 PM
Author: charismatic nubile locus

It's more that he just doesn't understand the basic principles of evolution.

He thinks it creates conscious behaviors that readily change in response to environmental changes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761258)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:09 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

THEN WHY DO PEOPLE EAT ICE CREAM? THE EVOLUTIONARY PURPOSE OF EATING IS TO LIVE, AND ICE CREAM IS UNHEALHTY! NICE TRY DARWINTARDS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761263)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:10 PM
Author: charismatic nubile locus

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761272)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:09 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

no you dumbass, i'm pointing out specific behaviors but there are obviously those "impulses" that underlie them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761265)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:10 PM
Author: charismatic nubile locus

sigh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761271)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:04 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

they don't have an impulse to reproduce. they have an impulse to have sex and, if possible, mate-pair with jacked alpha studs.

historically, high-fitness children were going to be an unavoidable consequence of that.

a few decades ago the connection between the behavior and the children was eliminated. but it will take a long time for the impulse to change.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761228)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:17 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

so "impulse" covers having anonymous sex with good looking men.

it does not cover making sure these men are actually high quality in other respects.

it does not cover making sure these men are compatible as future mates in other respects.

it does not cover seeking out mates and wanting to settle down.

it does not cover... etc.

well, by your definition of what an evolutionary impulse is, your theory totally explains everything!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761320)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 5:56 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

i don't think i suggested that. you seem to be mostly interested in proving something like "modern feminists hold inconsistent views on sex"

thats cool, but thats not the discussion we are having.

afaik, the vast vast majority of women aren't especially interested in anonymous sex. they are mostly interested in long-term relationships with high-value males.

some 30 year old women affect a disinterest in relationships and a love of cheap sex, but when you look at who is typically doing it, it seems very reminiscent of how rappers brag about loving the street life. nobody actually opts into that life, but some people do try to turn lemons into lemonade.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761903)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:01 PM
Author: charismatic nubile locus

CR

Evolution takes generations to respond to environmental changes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761195)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:20 PM
Author: bat shit crazy 180 temple brethren

Just do morning after pill...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760850)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:41 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

well, no convincing explanations so far.

guess i'll go with they're being gas-lit by society into feeling this way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760199)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:59 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

women don't want to be raped for the same reason you don't want to be kicked in the balls. it is a huge risk to offspring fitness.

that said i think you are MORE trying to argue that the post-rape trauma we associate with the act is largely a result of social conditioning, which is probably partly true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760375)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 2:05 PM
Author: ruby private investor

But with bitches all on dat free birth control nowadays, what's the big deal about a slut like Sandra Fluke getting poked?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760416)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 2:09 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

when you freeze your sperm, and protect your ability to procreate in the future, do you become impervious to the pain associated with getting kicked in the nuts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760444)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 8:14 PM
Author: ruby private investor

You changed the subject. So it's NOT about reproductive ability, then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28762910)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 2:08 PM
Author: Bespoke forum kitty

An most people (reasonable and unreasonable alike) will continue to think you are a crazy person.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760436)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:24 PM
Author: charismatic nubile locus

JFC you're dumb. MFE's evolutionary argument explained it perfectly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760875)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:29 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

just do "here's a non-falsifiable evolutionary 'argument' for why women feel a certain way, without getting inside their heads even a little bit to really understand what feeling that way is like."

it's not like getting kicked in the balls, because there you can actually point to a real physical pain and describe it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760922)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:38 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

how do i know your pain from being kicked in the balls is real? how do i know you're not just a histrionic little faggot? what methods do i use?

well one of them is i measure the observable consequences. (we do that with rape victims)

then i come up with "non-falsifiable evolutionary 'arguments'" for why it probably isn't so surprising that you respond negatively to testicular damage.

sorry that i came into your thread and fucked up your "rape is nbd" thesis. i'll let you carry on being a dipshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760997)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:40 PM
Author: Bespoke forum kitty

lol at this "rape seems like no big deal for women" idiot bitching at *you* for not trying to understand the female perspective.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761014)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:43 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

yeah, i would just go from "dude howling in pain at getting balls crushed" to "mumbo-jumbo evolutionary theory spanning millenia as to why it hurts to get your balls crushed."

i definitely would NOT try to understand the anatomy of balls and why they hurt when put under tremendous physical force, or anything like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761033)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:45 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

sorry that you find evolutionary explanations for obvious shit to be so infuriating.

find any cute girls to rape yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761058)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:49 PM
Author: multi-colored pink gunner marketing idea

"daddy why shouldn't i play in front of traffic?"

"well, you see, 10 million years ago when we were monkeys..."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761091)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:53 PM
Author: white philosopher-king

its an anachronism, historically a raped chick was literally worthless and might as well killself

nowadays, it really couldn't matter less, it's like contracting a mild case of mental illness that is easily treated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760327)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 1:57 PM
Author: ruby private investor

http://i.imgur.com/uDUVPEw.jpg

Rape is just a social construction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760352)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:29 PM
Author: Emerald state

this was informative

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760926)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 2:19 PM
Author: Hilarious Legal Warrant Lay

Risk of disease/child without a father/ruins reputation for finding a good man/fear of physical injury or abuse.

I'd rather have my teeth knocked in than sit on some fag's aids cock without lube and if you disagree you're probably gay.

"Drunk" rape isn't nearly as bad. It's like waking up next to a fat chick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760503)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:16 PM
Author: Narrow-minded swollen organic girlfriend quadroon

It's worse than murder. It's rape.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760818)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:21 PM
Author: bat shit crazy 180 temple brethren

Huh? On no planet is rape worse than murder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760856)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:20 PM
Author: charismatic nubile locus

LOL all straight men would rather be beaten within an inch of their life than forcibly fucked up the ass by another dude, aspie faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760849)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:21 PM
Author: Diverse Telephone

where's that BEEP BEEP BEEP guy when you need him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760860)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:29 PM
Author: Bespoke forum kitty

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760921)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:47 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761075)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:52 PM
Author: charismatic nubile locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761122)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:55 PM
Author: Rose Wrinkle Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761148)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:12 PM
Author: federal nursing home

Autism alert has seriously been slacking lately

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761283)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 4:13 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

probably collapsed from exhaustion and overstimulation when he saw this thread. hope he is ok. thoughts and prayers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761291)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 5:58 PM
Author: Narrow-minded swollen organic girlfriend quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761911)



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Date: September 16th, 2015 4:05 AM
Author: Chocolate Fortuitous Meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28765527)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:23 PM
Author: Vermilion Infuriating Set

ITT: aspie virgin males discuss how rape is nbd

but seriously, if its nbd, why do women dislike it so much and why has society made laws against it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760867)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:25 PM
Author: olive filthy hall blood rage

According to Posner, it prevents efficient bargaining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28760891)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 3:44 PM
Author: irradiated gaming laptop market

you could say it adds friction to the transaction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28761043)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 6:12 PM
Author: onyx potus queen of the night

By most accounts, it floods the market with her liqidity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28762017)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 7:54 PM
Author: racy brilliant pit mediation

you know, I have always kinda felt that feminism should try to get away from the rape is the worst thing in the world stuff

It's born out of the Puritan belief that a woman's chastity is her most important trait...

i guess it mainly bothers feminists though because they are so concerned with women's right to bodily autonomy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28762763)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 7:57 PM
Author: buff stimulating toaster native

wouldn't have expected this to be ur response

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28762778)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 7:59 PM
Author: racy brilliant pit mediation

why

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28762795)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 7:57 PM
Author: supple spruce lettuce

it's not bad in a vacuum but if someone tried to rape my own wife/gf/daughter/sister/mother, etc I would kill or be killed trying to stop it from happening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28762781)



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Date: September 15th, 2015 10:06 PM
Author: provocative gay brunch

Because womens' power in society comes from their decision givr or withhold sex.

Mens' power comes from their intellect and physical attributes.

Raping a woman takes away all her power. It is the same thing as beating a man until he is retarded or maiming him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28763860)



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Date: September 16th, 2015 2:30 AM
Author: Yapping spectacular orchestra pit roommate

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28765382)



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Date: September 16th, 2015 2:48 AM
Author: light angry french chef newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28765405)



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Date: September 16th, 2015 2:23 AM
Author: Transparent Laughsome Heaven

seriously one of the most ridiculous and lulzy threads ive seen in a long time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28765372)



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Date: September 16th, 2015 2:49 AM
Author: light angry french chef newt

Stfu literally all you women are raped non stop by handsome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28765408)



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Date: September 16th, 2015 2:50 AM
Author: Transparent Laughsome Heaven

tommy turd, why are you so mad today?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28765410)



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Date: September 16th, 2015 3:36 AM
Author: light angry french chef newt

im made everyday

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28765469)



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Date: September 16th, 2015 4:06 AM
Author: Transparent Laughsome Heaven

(guy who wouldnt hesitate to rape his own mother if he could get away with it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2990212&forum_id=2#28765529)