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Update in that crazy Stanford rape case

Some background: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread...
Sinister senate azn
  11/04/15
In one email, sent five months into the relationship, Clough...
drab flirting university death wish
  11/04/15
Don't blame the victim here
Unhinged meetinghouse
  11/04/15
and the victim would be who, exactly?
drab flirting university death wish
  11/04/15
Straight white men can't be victims
Unhinged meetinghouse
  11/04/15
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Marvelous sound barrier
  11/05/15
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Marvelous sound barrier
  11/05/15
VICTIM BLAMING IS NOT OK.
indigo ticket booth newt
  11/05/15
Does the story mention how the bullshit civil suit ended? Fu...
contagious territorial fortuitous meteor
  11/04/15
(due process fetishist)
drab flirting university death wish
  11/04/15
confidential settlement
Maize outnumbered area
  11/05/15
any real consequences for the dumb cunt?
Big-titted Pervert Stage
  11/04/15
says civil suit settled so she might have gotten six figures...
contagious territorial fortuitous meteor
  11/04/15
"During my months of reporting, I talked to people who ...
Ivory parlour
  11/04/15
it's also shitliboleth for "before i knew any of the fa...
drab flirting university death wish
  11/05/15
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Sapphire water buffalo striped hyena
  11/05/15
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Kink-friendly elastic band
  11/05/15
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Talking Obsidian Market Sweet Tailpipe
  11/05/15
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Beady-eyed step-uncle's house degenerate
  11/05/15
Soooo cr
insane buff piazza
  11/05/15
Emily Bazelon seems like a decent reporter. Didnt she do a b...
motley ungodly address
  11/05/15
Here's something she wrote, linking the two stories. Written...
drab flirting university death wish
  11/05/15
In light of what seems to be the denouement of this vexing c...
Sapphire water buffalo striped hyena
  11/05/15
“I choose to believe Jackie,” Jessica Valenti wrote in The G...
Seedy violet temple
  11/05/15
The degree of ignorance is frightening.
mahogany forum mexican
  11/05/15
I know Ellie, and this whole case is weird. But I don't t...
Turquoise Box Office
  11/05/15
This is a pretty well written mea culpa.
indigo ticket booth newt
  11/05/15
The real test will be the next time she writes about assault...
drab flirting university death wish
  11/05/15
lmao you fuckin dumbass libs
ultramarine lascivious ape
  11/05/15
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Beady-eyed step-uncle's house degenerate
  11/05/15
this cunt elise clougherty needs a good liferaping https:...
Stimulating Jet-lagged Dopamine
  11/05/15
https://www.facebook.com/ellieclougherty fun to be had he...
Stimulating Jet-lagged Dopamine
  11/05/15


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Date: November 4th, 2015 7:03 PM
Author: Sinister senate azn

Some background:

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2805664&mc=104&forum_id=2#27326474

Published today:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/04/magazine/the-lessons-of-stanfords-sex-assault-case-reversal.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-1&action=click&contentCollection=Magazine&region=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29111428)



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Date: November 4th, 2015 7:06 PM
Author: drab flirting university death wish

In one email, sent five months into the relationship, Clougherty writes to Lonsdale: “Kiss kiss kiss, you are super handsome.” Later, she wrote to him, “You are a sexy man” and “It was so nice sleeping with you.”

By way of explanation, Clougherty claimed in her suit that she “wrote him numerous emails and love letters to let him know how much she cared about him in the hope that it would end the abuse.”

So, she wrote that to *end* the abuse. That's her testimony?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29111454)



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Date: November 4th, 2015 7:07 PM
Author: Unhinged meetinghouse

Don't blame the victim here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29111461)



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Date: November 4th, 2015 7:08 PM
Author: drab flirting university death wish

and the victim would be who, exactly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29111463)



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Date: November 4th, 2015 7:25 PM
Author: Unhinged meetinghouse

Straight white men can't be victims

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29111587)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 12:40 PM
Author: Marvelous sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29116409)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 12:40 PM
Author: Marvelous sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29116410)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 1:47 PM
Author: indigo ticket booth newt

VICTIM BLAMING IS NOT OK.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29116970)



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Date: November 4th, 2015 7:10 PM
Author: contagious territorial fortuitous meteor

Does the story mention how the bullshit civil suit ended? Fuck this crazy bitch. This entire story is absurd and Stanford banning him for 10y just cause they are afraid of libs and feminazis is absurd. There is no end to the attacks by deranged white women on men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29111474)



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Date: November 4th, 2015 7:11 PM
Author: drab flirting university death wish

(due process fetishist)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29111484)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 2:31 PM
Author: Maize outnumbered area

confidential settlement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29117365)



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Date: November 4th, 2015 7:11 PM
Author: Big-titted Pervert Stage

any real consequences for the dumb cunt?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29111480)



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Date: November 4th, 2015 7:24 PM
Author: contagious territorial fortuitous meteor

says civil suit settled so she might have gotten six figures though that case is soooo ljl he shld pay nothing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29111584)



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Date: November 4th, 2015 7:26 PM
Author: Ivory parlour

"During my months of reporting, I talked to people who knew Clougherty and Lonsdale, some of whom spent time with them together, and as I did, I came to understand the story as more multifaceted and complex than I had initially thought."

shitliboleth for "bitch be crazy"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29111601)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 12:33 PM
Author: drab flirting university death wish

it's also shitliboleth for "before i knew any of the facts i drew an unshakeable conclusion that the white male was guilty, and now that i can't avoid the facts anymore i will protect myself by claiming that it's nuanced, complex, and complicated."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29116367)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 12:35 PM
Author: Sapphire water buffalo striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29116377)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 1:42 PM
Author: Kink-friendly elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29116917)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 1:44 PM
Author: Talking Obsidian Market Sweet Tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29116934)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 2:13 PM
Author: Beady-eyed step-uncle's house degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29117205)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 2:26 PM
Author: insane buff piazza

Soooo cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29117327)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 12:39 PM
Author: motley ungodly address

Emily Bazelon seems like a decent reporter. Didnt she do a bunch of uva jackie reporting? And that insane mattress thing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29116402)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 1:40 PM
Author: drab flirting university death wish

Here's something she wrote, linking the two stories. Written back in February. It gives a real insight into how UVA president viewed these things. She used a vastly misrepresented story to corroborate her belief in an entirely fraudulent story. Oh what an intellectual.

"Clougherty is currently a student at the University of Virginia, enrolled in a master’s program in data science and living with her brother, also a student, in a Charlottesville apartment their mother found them. After Rolling Stone published its story of a lurid fraternity gang rape in November, Clougherty and Anne arranged a meeting with the university president, Teresa Sullivan. On the day before Thanksgiving, they spent a couple of hours sitting in front of a fire at Sullivan’s home, drinking hot chocolate and talking about the effects of trauma. Clougherty gave Sullivan a beaded bracelet she had made and was thrilled when Sullivan mentioned the gift in a major speech on campus the following week, calling Clougherty the survivor of a “brutal assault inflicted on her at another university.”"

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/the-stanford-undergraduate-and-the-mentor.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29116893)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 12:39 PM
Author: Sapphire water buffalo striped hyena

In light of what seems to be the denouement of this vexing case, I’ve got two comments. Last December, when Rolling Stone’s account of a brutal gang rape at the University of Virginia began to unravel, some commentators argued that we should nevertheless take claims of sexual assault at face value, on the grounds that statistically, they are very likely true. “I choose to believe Jackie,” Jessica Valenti wrote in The Guardian. “I lose nothing by doing so, even if I’m later proven wrong.” In The Washington Post, Zerlina Maxwell argued: “We should believe, as a matter of default, what an accuser says. Ultimately, the costs of wrongly disbelieving a survivor far outweigh the costs of calling someone a rapist.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29116404)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 1:44 PM
Author: Seedy violet temple

“I choose to believe Jackie,” Jessica Valenti wrote in The Guardian. “I lose nothing by doing so, even if I’m later proven wrong.”

Unfortunately, that's the problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29116942)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 2:25 PM
Author: mahogany forum mexican

The degree of ignorance is frightening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29117322)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 12:43 PM
Author: Turquoise Box Office

I know Ellie, and this whole case is weird.

But I don't think anything alleged by her met any legal definition of sexual assault.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29116425)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 1:58 PM
Author: indigo ticket booth newt

This is a pretty well written mea culpa.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29117086)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 2:00 PM
Author: drab flirting university death wish

The real test will be the next time she writes about assault. She was way out in front, incorrectly, on all of these stories.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29117106)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 2:10 PM
Author: ultramarine lascivious ape

lmao you fuckin dumbass libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29117185)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 2:14 PM
Author: Beady-eyed step-uncle's house degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29117215)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 2:41 PM
Author: Stimulating Jet-lagged Dopamine

this cunt elise clougherty needs a good liferaping

https://plus.google.com/115039361756214236258/about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29117448)



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Date: November 5th, 2015 2:59 PM
Author: Stimulating Jet-lagged Dopamine

https://www.facebook.com/ellieclougherty

fun to be had here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3035928&forum_id=2#29117598)