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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:36 PM Author: avocado metal casino What is required? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374158) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:38 PM Author: Vigorous chocolate brethren Probably you should have been smart enough to get into a decent college out of high school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374163) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:41 PM Author: Vigorous chocolate brethren I was just being a cock, sorry. You'll do Ok. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374178) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:39 PM Author: Canary geriatric range national security agency 3.8 GPA, decent athletic skills, and an ability to suck up that would put normal sycophants to shame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374170) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:40 PM Author: avocado metal casino Athletic skills? :( I don't have that. Sucking up I can handle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374172) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:40 PM Author: angry sandwich striped hyena Sorry, the athletic part is in there to keep people like you out :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374175) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:41 PM Author: Canary geriatric range national security agency Good grasshopper, then you must train - you must reach a stage of uber-sycophantry that to others is only a vague rumor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374180) |
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Date: July 11th, 2006 2:45 PM Author: sadistic 180 multi-billionaire kitchen He talks about this in his autobiography.
He says this is why he chose to apply out of whatever region arkansas is in than out of where gtwon is. |
Date: November 24th, 2005 5:52 PM Author: twisted hell high grades. some research would be good, especially if you're going to a state school where 20 people (or more) graduate with a 3.95+ every year. something that shows that you've got more smarts than someone who just studies and takes shit classes. "athletic vigor" is a plus, don't have to play D-1 ball, but doing IM sports can help. other than that being well rounded and involved. be a slef-starter show that you put skins on the wall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374205) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:53 PM Author: avocado metal casino thanks, look at my "rate my extracurriculars thread" and tell what you think. I am now a sophomore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374212) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:55 PM Author: Canary geriatric range national security agency that looks like a good start. seriously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374222) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:56 PM Author: twisted hell not bad. whlie you have a very good gpa (in a tough major) remember that you're going to be up against people with 4.0 gpas at Yale, Duke, Army/Navy, etc (look at this years bios). hit the books and bust out some 4.0 semesters.
try to get some leadership experience and start some shit that looks good (organizations, business, etc.) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 6:01 PM Author: avocado metal casino What sort of organizations or businesses do I have to start? I already founded two organizations (HIV/AIDS) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374245) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 6:03 PM Author: twisted hell yeah, that's good. I'd suggest some diversity in your interests/things you start and playing an IM sport. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374257) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:50 PM Author: Bateful nursing home Create organizations that aren't "connected" to anything. Anyone can be a taskman. You have to show that you have some vision. So take initiative, find something you really want to change, and try your best to do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376121) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:52 PM Author: avocado metal casino Please refer to my "rate my extracurriculars" thread offer me some suggestions to improve upon my EC's.
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:53 PM Author: Outnumbered Bawdyhouse you need an interesting personality and a good presence. i made it to the second round of the competition. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374210) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:53 PM Author: avocado metal casino please look at my rate my extracurriculars thread and tell me what you think i could do to improve my EC's. Thank you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374215) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:54 PM Author: Outnumbered Bawdyhouse here's my tip: learn how to converse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374217) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 6:03 PM Author: avocado metal casino I will get to that eventually! I hope! :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374255) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:54 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Boistinker Why are you so insecure? You're clearly on a path of self-hatred and boredom. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374219) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 6:58 PM Author: Curious affirmative action False. Ever hear of Joe Caltech? He's worse with people than most diagnosed autistics, and his personality is defective, and he got one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374491) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:21 PM Author: Vigorous chocolate brethren How the fuck would you know how Joe's people skills are? He's got plenty of friends and has had actual relationships with females. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374555) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:27 PM Author: Curious affirmative action I'm sure he makes up his "plenty of friends", or they are losers like he is. As for his girlfriends, well... anyone can get a girlfriend if he lowers his standards enough, so I'm not impressed by this, either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374571) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:34 PM Author: Vigorous chocolate brethren No, you don't get it. He, like you, is "out." We know he's Joseph Jewell of Caltech, Michigan, and Oxford, just like we know you're Mike Church of Carleton and Wisconsin. That means his claims one way or another can be proved. I personally know people at Caltech who knew Joe, (although they're a bit younger) he hasn't "made up" anything about having friends/girlfriends. That's verifiable. And I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't mind being a "loser like him," considering he's got an incredible list of credentials. Don't break out your tired shit about PrepMe sucking and the Rhodes being a TTT. If Joe sucks so much, how come he consistently fools the objectively most prestigious institutions in the world into recognizing him... including graduate schools that wouldn't have given you a second glance? How come you're the only one that's got him figured out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374591) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:50 PM Author: Curious affirmative action Never tempt a man with quicker wit.
I never said that the Rhodes was a TTT. Historically, it has been a prestigious scholarship, but there are anecdotal reports of losers receiving them, and proof of at least one: Joe Caltech. PrepMe, of course, is a loser-fucker company designed to help rich loser-fuckers get into top schools at the expense of poorer, more worthy students. Simply put, it's a classist pogrom against the American poor.
"including graduate schools that wouldn't have given you a second glance"
Such as? I won't hold my breath; I know you won't be able to come up with any. To support your point, it is true that I wouldn't have gotten into top engineering departments, only because I didn't take any engineering classes at all during undergrad, but the same goes in reverse. I honestly don't know how to compare math vs. engineering for overall prestige, but I'm pretty sure Joe wouldn't have gotten into a top 25 math department, ever, but especially not now, after the Michael Lohman incident, since surely departments are more worried about "that type" than they were before.
I'm NOT the only one who's got this loser-fucker figured out? Ever hear of 174? He's way more prestigious (as am I) than anyone who has ever defended Joe Caltech. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:53 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Base From everything you've posted and the insights about you from Carleton folks, you're much closer to the "Lohman type" than Joe is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374687) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:54 PM Author: Curious affirmative action How so? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374689) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:58 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Base You were a social pariah at Carleton and have serious problems gauging your place in society. (Your insane ramblings about "high-end dating", relative prestige, and endless denigration of PrepMe are evidence of this.) That doesn't sound too different from a guy who collects hair clippings from Asian girls and puts ejaculate in their drinks. The women of Madison should be very cautious now that you're in town. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374725) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 8:04 PM Author: Curious affirmative action I wasn't a social pariah. I was the slander target of a few loser-fuckers and it had an impact on my social life, but I did have friends, I went out and did stuff, and I managed to have some good social experiences in spite of the L-F's. I had an amazing girlfriend (gorgeous, extremely smart) for a short time; she broke up for reasons external to us (her previous relationship was dying; she broke up with me to get back together with him so he wouldn't kill himself). I had another chance to date someone amazing, but I wasn't ready for her on account of the previous relationship, from which it took me months to recover.
My reference to "high-end dating" was not an "insane rambling"; several posters agreed with me on it, you idiot. On PrepMe, it's only among the most unprestigious businesses in existence, that's all; other than that, I guess I have no problem with it.
Somehow, I don't see how any of this connects to Lohman, at all. Diagnosis: you're an idiot. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:25 AM Author: Navy market Also, he was a math PhD student, like you. You've said yourself they're unique people. I'm surprised that the obvious has escaped you.
Engineers in general are much more even-tempered. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 8:05 PM Author: Vigorous chocolate brethren I'm just saying that Joe got into every graduate program he applied to, including Caltech, MIT, Princeton, etc. I don't know the rest off the top of my head. I don't know how math and engineering compare either, but I'm assuming math is slightly more competitive and prestigious, especially pure math - that said, Joe was accepted to the best programs in his field. You, if I'm not mistaken, were not.
I know 174 doesn't like Joe, but I don't think he's nearly as down on him as you. I could be wrong.
I'm not attempting to get into a fight with you, today is a day of peace and love. I think your claim of being quicker witted can be debated, however. There's no need to bring personal attacks into this, that wasn't what I was going for... I'm trying to leave anything that could be construed as an assault on you out of this. I'm just sick of you talking down on Joe. He's a decent guy. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 8:16 PM Author: Curious affirmative action "I'm assuming math is slightly more competitive and prestigious, especially pure math - that said, Joe was accepted to the best programs in his field. You, if I'm not mistaken, were not."
Objectively, I'd have to say that Joe did quite well for himself in terms of graduate admissions. In truth, there isn't much debate about that. Now, Master's programs are generally much less selective than PhD programs, though I suspect that M. Eng. is more selective than most MA, MS programs. I do believe that engineering programs are much, much larger than math PhD programs, though I could be wrong. The comparison is pretty much impossible to make, because the departments are looking for different things, and one needs to prepare in order to get admitted to either. (E.g. I wouldn't be able to get into an engineering program, but not because I'm not smart enough.)
"I'm just sick of you talking down on Joe. He's a decent guy."
There is a reason I dislike him. He may be a decent guy in real life, but during the spring he used to come on here and pick the most idiotic fights, and he wouldn't let up. He also was friends with some of my real-life enemies, and took some slanderous shit he had heard from them onto the board. So I dislike him for some very good reasons, and I wouldn't be attacking him so viciously if those reasons weren't there; what motivations would I have? The insinuation that I attack him because of "jealousy" is absurd; there are plenty of people in the world more accomplished than I am, and I admire, rather than denigrate, them. Joe Caltech is a belligerent prick, and he's not even all that accomplished, definitely not moreso than I am.
There are probably as many people who think I'm a jerk online as there are for him, but in my case, the reason I'm such an asshole on the Internet is so I *can* be a nice guy in real life, because I have to put the negative energy somewhere and I'd rather it be with strangers than people I care about. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 8:20 PM Author: Vigorous chocolate brethren I can accept pretty much everything you say. It just seems a bit weird that you continue posting negative stuff about Joe after he's pretty much left the board... that said, I can understand the need to vent on the board, and it's probably better than you do so on someone who isn't even here to be bothered by it (although I guess he was bothered enough to come back and make that thread about you.)
Happy Thanksgiving, by the way. Did you do anything fun? |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 8:35 PM Author: Curious affirmative action That's the schtick part of it. Off the board, I don't care about Joe Caltech at all. I did once tell someone who knows him IRL that he's "a huge cocksucker" (I was drunk; it's not something I'd say to one of his acquaintances otherwise) last summer, but other than that, I don't care about him. It fits the pensive schtick to attack him at every opportunity.
On venting, I don't know if this is the best way of handling things, but it'll have to do. I create a lot of false selves ("schticks") for a mixture of amusement and self-obscurement; one of them is pensive, a prestige-obsessed parody of my 19-year-old self. Most often, I only deploy these false selves online, but occasionally when I'm inebriated they emerge.
Thanksgiving... all my friends left town, and for various reasons I could not this weekend, so yeah, it kind of sucks. I'm planning on heading out to a nice Indian place tonight, though. I did go to an early Thanksgiving dinner with a couple friends last week.
It's really bad. I've basically slipped away from everyone and everything. I can't blame it on graduate school or the lifestyle (the lifestyle isn't great, but not terrible either) but it's just the fact that I've become sluggish, depressed, and mournful. I've started to realize that I've let too much of life pass me by, and that I'm probably only a couple years from the point where, if I don't develop the ability to find and keep girlfriends by then, I'll have to give up and do evil shit to amuse myself. It's a horrifying prospect, but one I must consider. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 8:45 PM Author: Vigorous chocolate brethren That sucks. I'm stuck on campus myself -- fortunately my roomie is here and we'll probably do a little pointless drinking and maybe watch a movie, but it's a far cry from spending time at home with my extended family.
I would suggest you start working out, if you don't already. It really helps keep you focused and feeling more involved in your own life. Not, of course, that you need to get all Joe_Vag, but running or something would probably help you feel better and give you more energy.
I know I'm not always the kindest to you, but it's mostly because I don't really like your shtick and think it's pretty annoying. I hope your relationship stuff does work out and I'm confident that if you work at it, it will. It's definitely possible to find quality women... honestly, man, I think you might be scared/hesitant because you don't have much relationship experience compared to other people your age. It's not going to get any better as you get older, start now. Get out there and meet people. Get those "6 prospects" you want, then get busy with one of them. Once you break through, you'll do well. Just don't fall into the trap of thinking you need to find the perfect woman to date. Sure you want a perfect woman to marry, but that doesn't have to be now. The more you date the more comfortable you'll get and the more likely you'll be to be attractive to the perfect woman once you do find her. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:10 PM Author: Curious affirmative action Yeah, I agree on what you say re Thanksgiving. Around October, something seemingly big happened that put me into a pretty deep state of gloom, and the only way I could complete my work was to withdraw from pretty much all social contact. So now I'm much less integrated into social life at my department, but it's basically my fault. I don't even know who's in town. In retrospect, what happened in Oct. was a blip, but it seemed major at the time.
Working out: when I can, I try to run 3-4 mi per day, but my schedule sucks this semester. My T/Th are overloaded and I'm basically doing something nonstop from 7 to 5, aside from a 45-minute lunch break. That, and it's dark after 5 pm, and I prefer to run in daylight.
My schtick is a mixed bag; I probably would find it annoying if I weren't running it, and I think it's probably outlived its usefulness on xoxo. Moreover, I'm not in the right mood for schtick anymore. The prestige obsession is ridiculous; when I actually was "prestigious" I didn't care about relative status or any of that shit, because I was too driven. Until 16 I was super-driven, a contest-math gunner who spent lots of time preparing for these contests, but then I realized that in spite of it all, I was unsuccessful with women and getting increasingly unhappy with age... and I lost that drive. I've gone up and down, from having no motivation at all to being about 75% as driven as I was in high school, but I've never been back up to that level, and I won't be until I can fix this pesky women problem because it's so fucking depressing. There is nothing seriously wrong with me except a previous pattern of failure (and various derivative complications) but it is a pattern that cannot be escaped, because women are unforgiving and irrational.
On relationships, the "6 prospects" was an exaggeration. I find it impossible to act "normal" though if I don't have many prospects, because then I have too much banking on one woman and it's bound to scare her away. In any case, yeah the relationship inexperience sucks and women are pretty unforgiving. I've considered creating a "new past" that is a wildly liberal interpretation of my real one (counting a grey case as a girlfriend, lengthening the 6 days of the other girlfriend to 3 months), living as if it were true (to build confidence) and taking comfort in the fact that most people will never find out otherwise. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:15 PM Author: Vigorous chocolate brethren Creating a new past might work for you (at least it would be a confidence builder.) You'll be OK. Just work through this gloomy period, once it passes you'll be in much better shape. Ups and downs and all that.
Anyway, I have to go, but I want to wish you good luck. You'll be all right. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:17 PM Author: Curious affirmative action Thanks. Good luck to you, too. Happy Thanksgiving. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375286) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:19 PM Author: indigo cuck nowag Dude, chill out. Why are you so anxious to get into a relationship? Like all your posts are about attracting women and it's kind of annoying. A lot of guys ask me out, but I am much more happy just being single and going out with my friends. I've been in my share of relationships (well actually they were all Pseudo-Relationships, lol) and you should enjoy being single! You get to go out with friends more often, party and drink too much, attempt to fall asleep under trees while someone tries to carry you home, dance on some tables, etc. It's all good fun. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375298) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:22 PM Author: Curious affirmative action It's possible to enjoy being single. It's not possible to enjoy being 22 without ever having had an actual relationship (the fling I had at one point doesn't count, in my mind, because she was a horrible person and committed to some other guy). It's one of those things that is so fucking depressing that a person cannot get away from it. I would have a great life if not for that one thing, but that one thing is so fucking depressing I can't even concentrate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375310) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:26 PM Author: indigo cuck nowag One fling? Just move on already and don't dwell on it. In the meanwhile, go out with some friends, maybe get trashed and do something crazy. I almost asleep under a tree in Harlem at 3 in the morning last week! And stop focusing all your attention on women and relationships!! You have pretty much your whole life for that, lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375321) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:31 PM Author: Curious affirmative action I'm in grad school; we don't get trashed, we don't do "crazy" things. It's quite an ascetic lifestyle and maybe not the best for me at this time of life.
I don't have my "whole life" to develop basic romantic partnership skills; if I haven't done so by 25, I'm fucked. You're a woman, so you have no concept of how hard it is to be a man, but we basically have to do all the work of finding and initiating relationships: approaching, asking out, first kiss, et cetera. Women get to just sit back, look pretty, and take half the credit. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:39 PM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship Ok. I don't really know who Joe Caltech, you, or 174 are
but I can tell you that in terms of prestige, for someone UNDER 25:
Rhodes Scholar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EVERYONE ELSE
Always Always Always
go memorize it.
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:45 PM Author: indigo cuck nowag lol, yeah I think I wanted to be Rhodes Scholar when I was little kid. I have a high GPA but I am such a fucking slacker. At least I still have the goal of becoming a neurosurgeon or a neurologist! ;) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375396) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 10:02 PM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship my sister wanted to be a neurosurgeon
i think she changed to oncology though |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:47 PM Author: Curious affirmative action That's really not true anymore. Maybe it was at one time, but the general consensus among elite circles (compared to lower-middle class XO speculation):
1. You don't need to go to HYP, but you should go somewhere that is good-- an Ivy, top 15 LAC, or a uni with formidable research programs. Princeton is the best of HYP.
2. If you went to a lower-calibre undergrad, you can make up for it through extensive self-study and erudition.
3. The major international fellowships (Rhodes, et al) have declined in selectivity over the past decade or so, though they're still quite respectable.
In any case, I never applied for the RS and I probably won't, because it would interrupt my graduate study. If Joe Caltech got one, though, I'd have a damn good shot at it. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:49 PM Author: indigo cuck nowag Also, you should probably stop talking about prestige and thinks like the "general consensus among elite circles (compared to lower-middle class XO speculation)" if you want to "improve" upon yourself and have better luck with women. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375418) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:58 PM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship You would have NO SHOT EVER, so lets clear that up to begin with.
My partner for one of my papers was one of the 32. He had excellent grades (and a much heavier courseload than me) and ridiculous extracurriculars. The Rhodes blurb mentioned like 1/3 of them.
truly prestigious. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 10:02 PM Author: Curious affirmative action You are wrong, and you can suck my cock, so let's clear that up to begin with.
If Joe Caltech was able to get one, then it wouldn't be difficult for me since I am by all accounts more impressive. If he hadn't gotten one, I would probably suspect that my chances would be relatively low.
That said, it sounds like your friend is pretty damn prestigious. Kudos to him. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 10:07 PM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship the rhodes is one of the ultimate arbiters of prestige.
and yes they like to take people crappy schools, and they always take some military kids so its skewed, but really...
it just is. don't try to deny it.
you can never be more prestigious than this CalTech guy because he has one. (at least in the next decade. the rhodes, like everything else, has a shelf life.)
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Date: November 24th, 2005 10:12 PM Author: Curious affirmative action You see, it's really not. Yes, the Rhodes Scholarship is neat and a lot of impressive people end up getting them, but it's not the "ultimate arbiter" of anything other than who gets to study in England.
I am already more prestigious than he is, though that's not saying much, and in truth I'm not terribly prestigious. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 10:13 PM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship Oiy.
this argument is getting truly circular.
where do you go to grad school? what are you studying? |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:19 PM Author: Navy market Yeah, he needs to hear that, over and over and over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375974) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:24 PM Author: Curious affirmative action Why would anyone need to hear something that's not true? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375999) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:41 PM Author: Navy market Everyone else on this thread seems to disagree with you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376078) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:43 PM Author: Curious affirmative action I am smarter than a lot of people here and it is by this fact proven. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376087) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:43 PM Author: Navy market Circular. And retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376090) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:48 PM Author: Curious affirmative action Wow. You managed to describe the shape of your penis and your future progeny in three words. I'm impressed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376110) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:49 PM Author: Navy market I guess they'll be paying their own way through master's programs, then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376119) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:44 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Base Don't forget: 174, who is more prestigious than you, or anyone else here doesn't like Joe either! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376095) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:44 PM Author: indigo cuck nowag You're 22! You should not have an ascetic lifestyle! In fact, that is probably what is making you more depressed than the fact that do you do not have a girlfriend.
Go out with some friends. I am sure that you can find out graduate students who like to have fun. I know have met some crazy grad students here--some that were even my TA's!
Also, don't worry about the future. Who's knows what will happen when you are 25? Just think about the present. If you meet someone who like that's good that's good, if not don't worry about it. It's nothing to obsess over. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:50 PM Author: Curious affirmative action "You're 22! You should not have an ascetic lifestyle!"
I would agree, but it's necessary in order to get where I want to be in life. First-year graduate school is rough, but it gets better in later years. (One is able to find lucrative summer jobs, the workload drops off, and one has more of a social life.)
"I am sure that you can find out graduate students who like to have fun. I know have met some crazy grad students here--some that were even my TA's!"
It's really tough, especially in the first year, to meet graduate students in other departments. I didn't believe other people who told me this going in, but it's really quite true. It's not like college where one ends up meeting all sorts of interesting people in a wide range of disciplines. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:54 PM Author: indigo cuck nowag Well then just focus on your schoolwork. But also try to make friends. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375439) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 10:00 PM Author: Curious affirmative action I do what I can. Right now I feel completely hemmed-in by context, and I'm used to being the kind of person with the capacity to define his context, rather than the other way around. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375475) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 10:57 PM Author: Navy market "Now, Master's programs are generally much less selective than PhD programs...."
Master's programs? Huh? I'm pretty sure Joe applied to PhD programs. Master's programs usually aren't even funded. And doesn't he want to be a prof? I know there were threads back when he was applying to schools (which is how people know he got in everywhere he applied in the first place). I'm sure there must be some on the grad board.
Nice try. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:14 PM Author: Curious affirmative action He does want to be a prof, and I believe that he's going to be applying for PhD programs after coming back to the US. We'll see how he does then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375954) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:20 PM Author: Navy market So he was willing to pay his own way at a grad program? I've never ever heard of anyone doing that, from a top school, at least in a technical subject.
P.S. If they took him before he was a Rhodes Scholar, the odds that they'll reject him after don't seem very high. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:38 PM Author: Navy market Subject: Nothing a little searching won't turn up... http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3674&forum_id=1#61681
PWNED, dude. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:40 PM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Base Good job digging up the evidence. Anyone who thought Joe paid for his year at Michigan is an imbecile. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376077) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:42 PM Author: Curious affirmative action Oh well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376085) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:43 PM Author: Navy market Hahahahahaha! Pensive is speechless!
Your point has just been demolished and "oh well" is the best you can do. Hilarious. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:53 PM Author: Curious affirmative action Technically I lost that subargument, but the fact that Joe Caltech is a loser with a TTT cow-fuck business still stands, so I don't much care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376130) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:58 PM Author: Navy market And the fact that he got into PhD programs at schools that rejected you or weren't even realistic enough for you to merit an app still stands, too.
Hey, aren't you on a teaching assistantship yourself? |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:02 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Yes, but I could have gotten into them for other departments than math, which is highly selective. Like I said, I don't know how many students engineering programs take. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376175) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:09 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw "Yes, but I could have gotten into them for other departments than math, which is highly selective."
Okay, I'll bite, what PhD departments would you have gotten into at Harvard, MIT, Princeton, CalTech, etc. if you had bothered to apply? |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:15 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Well, this doesn't apply for the latter three (since the programs don't exist) but law: I'm pretty confident that, given what I can do on the Putnam, I'd be able to crack 175 on the LSAT, which would get me in anywhere I wanted to go.
I could get into the top business schools by getting in through investment banking or consulting.
As for academic PhDs, it's much tougher to say because I didn't prepare for those disciplines in undergrad, every department is different and I don't know what they all want. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:22 AM Author: Navy market Law isn't a PhD program.
You make it too easy, Mike... |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:27 AM Author: Curious affirmative action No, it's not. I must have misread GTO's post, actually, because I remembered seeing "graduate" instead of "PhD". Maybe I read too fast.
PhD admissions are very unpredictable in general, but it's known that math and physics are among the most selective, so if I had prepared for them in my undergrad, I'm sure I could have done well, as far as admissions goes, in many disciplines. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:32 AM Author: Navy market All conjecture.
As it stands, Joe has real results (you're big on things being "real" aren't you?) and you don't. In fact, what you have is a pile of real rejections from real schools that Joe really got into. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:36 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Um, you don't get rejected or accepted at a graduate school, but a department. We were applying to different departments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376389) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:40 AM Author: Navy market And he got into basically the top 5 or 6 PhD programs in his field. Right down the line, in fact.
You didn't.
(The fact that many of the top schools for aerospace are also top math schools that rejected you just must make it sting even more.) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:44 AM Author: Curious affirmative action How big were those programs? Math PhD programs are tiny. There just isn't much of a market for pure math, so the programs are really small. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376450) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:50 AM Author: Navy market And thus I'd imagine not many people apply either.
How the fuck should I know how big those programs are? Why don't you look that up, if you're going to hang your hat on it? |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:52 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Top-15 math departments have very low acceptance rates, often in the single digits, and for every person who does apply, there are many who would if they had a chance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376505) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:54 AM Author: Navy market Back that up, or it's worthless (god knows much of what you post is objectively worthless).
In particular, let's see you cite some acceptance rates, math versus aerospace. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:56 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Departments generally don't publish them, and USNews doesn't either, so the data is pretty sketchy. However, this debate has been held on this forum in the past, so look up the threads yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376548) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:57 AM Author: Navy market "However, this debate has been held on this forum in the past, so look up the threads yourself."
Yeah, and the "debate" has consisted entirely of you asserting what you just asserted above without even a shred of evidence, and other people telling you that your opinion doesn't yet count as fact. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:58 AM Author: Curious affirmative action No. This is not true. I just don't care enough to find the threads, because you're an idiotic cocksucker anyway and it would be a waste of time to try to convince you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376573) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:00 AM Author: Navy market I found the thread that disproved your assertion, quite handily, in fact. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376592) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:01 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Post it, then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376597) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:01 AM Author: Navy market http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376061
pwned. I backed up my assertion; you didn't. It's as simple as that. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:58 AM Author: Navy market I know some acceptance rates we COULD look up. How about acceptance rates for Caltech and MIT undergrad versus Carleton undergrad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376568) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:59 AM Author: Curious affirmative action What does this matter, given that I went to Carleton for location and educational model rather than status on some stupid message board, and could have gotten into more selective schools? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376585) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:01 AM Author: Navy market "could have" but didn't. How'd that Harvard app turn out for ya, Mr. Well-Rounded? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376598) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:03 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Nah, I got into Chicago, and only wrote 3 applications. Harvard: I would have gotten in if not for being an idiot and saying I didn't want to go there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376618) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:07 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw "Nah, I got into Chicago"
Along with half the other people who applied. Chicago undergrad is probably the last place you should be bragging about getting into, it's hard to think of any US News Tier 1 school that's less selective. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:09 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Actually, it's highly selective. The reason for the high acceptance rate is that so few people even know of it as a prestigious school. (Most people you grew up with, GTO, probably thought it was a state school. The people I grew up with know about UC and respect it highly.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376676) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:09 AM Author: Navy market It's absolutely chock-full of HYPSMC rejects. (Just like Carleton and lib arts colleges in general, as well.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376684) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:11 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Nah, there were people at Carleton who got into those schools, and others who could have. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376696) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:11 AM Author: Navy market That's not what I said.
I know for a fact that Chicago is full of Ivy wannabes. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:14 AM Author: Curious affirmative action You're wrong. Chicago is full of people who want an old-style, true academic experience which is no longer found at most universities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376733) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:15 AM Author: Navy market ...at least that's what they tell themselves after they get rejected from their top choices. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376750) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:17 AM Author: Curious affirmative action No, you're wrong. I know these people and you don't. Unlike you, I actually know a diverse array of people from all kinds of educational backgrounds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376770) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:18 AM Author: Navy market Hey wait! Aren't Joe's business partners from UC? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376778) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:23 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw Dude, didn't you get the memo? Joe used his Satanic powers to convince his business partners that he's a good guy, even though we all know he's Satan himself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376831) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:25 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Satan wouldn't deal with Joe Caltech, because he's not important enough. HTH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376854) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:27 AM Author: Navy market But he's important enough for students from the prestigious University of Chicago! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376870) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:28 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Well, I don't know them, though I think I've met one of them. Anyway, not every student at a prestigious university is prestigious. Case in point: Caltech is pretty damn prestigious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376886) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:29 AM Author: Navy market You know what else is prestigious...
THE FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP
(credit to asdf) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:16 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw If Chicago's applicant pool self-selects for that type of person, then why is its yield so abysmally low? Every other school with a real self selection issue has a high yield that goes along with the higher acceptance rate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376757) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:19 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Yield is tricky, and with EA and ED all over the place, pretty much meaningless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376795) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:20 AM Author: Navy market How about that whole "revealed preferences" survey? Nice and scientific, with results that just plain feel right.
1 Harvard 2800
2 Yale 2738
3 Stanford 2694
4 Cal Tech 2632
5 MIT 2624
6 Princeton 2608
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27 U Chicago 2104
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34 Carleton 2022 |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:26 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw Wait, so yield is meaningless but we should treat acceptance rates as gospel when determining whether math PhD departments are more selective than engineering PhD departments?
Oh wait, it's just another example of you not using a statistic because it doesn't help you... just like you said we should disregard Chicago's acceptance rate because of "self-selection." |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:27 AM Author: Navy market Don't forget that he says acceptance rate is ALSO meaningless for undergrad schools.
And also that he doesn't have any actual evidence or numbers of any kind to back up his "math PhD programs have low acceptance rates" thing in the first place.
And how about that Revealed Preferences survey? |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:32 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw I guess pensive's prestige rankings are based primarily on whether the school accepted him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376921) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:34 AM Author: Curious affirmative action No, not so much. I don't have linear rankings for prestige in undergrad or grad, but I consider MIT, Chicago and Harvard's math departments highly prestigious, and they rejected me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376938) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:36 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw So, what about the revealed preference rankings? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376949) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:41 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I don't know that they apply to graduate programs. Undergrad "prestige" is meaningless since no undergrad is difficult to get into. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376986) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:42 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw And yet, you didn't get into Harvard undergrad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376990) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:45 AM Author: Curious affirmative action And yet, we both know the exact reason why: I told the interviewer I didn't want to go, a terrible decision. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377017) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:48 AM Author: Navy market Except that you probably wouldn't have gotten in anyway. Around 90% of people who tell the interviewer they'd LOVE to go to Harvard still don't get in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377039) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:49 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I would have gotten in if I had said that I wanted to go. That is a fact. I had the numbers, ECs, and whole package, and pwned every "applicant desirability" formula used. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377051) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:51 AM Author: Navy market But below you say it's just luck. And your numbers weren't at the top, either.
You've not mentioned your high school ECs before. I invite you to list them here now. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:56 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I went to USAMO 4 times. Once would be enough to pwn the median student at any undergrad.
My numbers were so-so (1510/#2) mainly because I took the SATs cold and only once. Getting a 1600 wasn't a priority for me. ECs: Besides math contests, I had national writing awards, quiz bowl accomplishments, and community involvement. I was well above-average but not outstanding, as far as ECs go, compared to median students at the top undergrads. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:58 AM Author: Vigorous chocolate brethren I'm just curious, did you do math counts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377124) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:00 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Yeah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377137) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:03 AM Author: Vigorous chocolate brethren How did you do? I finished near the top in my state but got PWN3D later on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377173) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:08 AM Author: Navy market You sound like a run-of-the-mill math geek. We all know your "writing" accomplishments are complete bullshit, colleges don't give a rat's ass about quiz bowl, and every single goddamn applicant has "community involvement" (give me a break).
USAMO is a legitimately good activity, but 250 people do USAMO every single year, and many more do the equivalent in other countries. MOST of the US students and many of the foreigners apply to Harvard (and most probably manage better than a 1510, too, at least the native English speakers). This is not something unusual for Harvard, and is not an auto-admit by any means. Harvard picks a class of 1500 each year. They don't have room for 250+ people whose only real strength is math stuff. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:10 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw I'm amazed that he thinks this stuff is exceptional. I mean, down below he was citing being published in his college newspaper as a real accomplishment... and yet he claims that Joe's actual published book and Rhodes scholarship are meaningless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377243) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:11 AM Author: Curious affirmative action His book is an SAT prep book, you fucknut. That makes the fact of his being published meaningless. If this were a novel, then it'd be different. We wouldn't be having this argument in that case, because I'd admit him to be prestigious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377258) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:12 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw What novels have you published?
Hell, what of *anything* have you published, in something that isn't the publishing equivalent of open admissions (so college newspapers, online gaming magazines, etc. don't count). |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:14 AM Author: Curious affirmative action None so far-- haven't had the time-- which is why if Joe Caltech had one, and a good one, he'd be more prestigious than I am. However, he doesn't have the writing skills to make a good novel, so I'm not worried about this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377284) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:20 AM Author: Navy market Hmm, let's see--what are the odds that you'd admit anything Joe Caltech wrote was "good"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377336) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:21 AM Author: Curious affirmative action If it actually were good, I'd be able to recognize this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377347) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:23 AM Author: Navy market He has dozens of accomplishments the entire rest of the world recognizes as "actually good," but you don't admit them. I choose to believe the pattern would continue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377362) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:24 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw Yup, just like you recognized PrepMe, recognized the Rhodes, recognized his book, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377369) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:26 AM Author: Curious affirmative action The Rhodes scholarship would be prestigious if it weren't for the fact that the award of it to someone so underaccomplished weren't, effectively, shitting on the entire concept of the scholarship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377392) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:28 AM Author: Navy market I can't believe the enormous power and influence you accord this guy. His mere acquisition of an award changes its entire perception? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377404) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:30 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Perhaps he hasn't done much damage to the image of the Rhodes Scholarship yet, but give him time and the capacity, and he will. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377417) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:32 AM Author: Navy market Wasn't there some Rhodes Scholar congressman who went to jail over some scandal? What exactly is Joe going to do that's more offensive than that? Make a pile of money selling a business you don't consider that cool? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377430) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:37 AM Author: Curious affirmative action PrepMe is worse than jail time for any nonviolent crime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377460) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:37 AM Author: Navy market You're a dumbass if you really believe that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377465) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 7:16 PM Author: Puce arousing party of the first part You're insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4381069) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 9:47 PM Author: Concupiscible pocket flask titcr.
he has something called Narcissistic Personality Disorder. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 10:19 PM Author: Curious affirmative action Your new schtick is amusing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4382755) |
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Date: July 11th, 2006 4:16 PM Author: Rusted abode stain Your old schtick isn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#6187769) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:23 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw Same odds as pensive winning the Rhodes Scholarship, getting hired by McKinsey, getting into Yale Law, getting a novel published, or having a relationship that lasts longer than six days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377361) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:25 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Um, I don't think that any of those are sure locks, but I could easily pull off at least 3 of those 5, with near 100% confidence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377384) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:31 AM Author: Navy market But you've ACTUALLY done none. Zero. (And I seriously doubt your ability to do any of them other than maintain a relationship--I think that WILL happen, eventually, but only after your attitude has changed.)
Joe's already done 2, by my count, done the rough equivalent of a 3rd, would be an absolute lock for the 4th if he wanted it, and given his aptitude for standardized tests and other generally sterling credentials, would likely have little trouble with the 5th, either. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:34 AM Author: Curious affirmative action He would never, ever get the novel, which is the most prestigious of the above.
Anyway, I don't spend my life trying to get XO accolades, which is why I haven't done any of those. Maybe at some point I will. Off the board, I generally don't care about anything related to XO. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:34 AM Author: Navy market There are gazillions of novelists and maybe a thousand Rhodes Scholars, quite a few of whom have written several books each, I'd imagine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377444) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:38 AM Author: Curious affirmative action A lot of those Rhodes Scholars are damn impressive. Joe Caltech isn't.
Haha. I've gotten you fuckers to flame with me for 300+ posts. Haven't you figured out yet that I only care about the numbers? It glorifies my ego either way. PWN3D. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:40 AM Author: Navy market You're a sad, sad individual. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377480) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:43 AM Author: Curious affirmative action For taking pleasure in flamewars? I rather enjoy them. They're a great way to dispel negative energy.
The truth is that I really don't give a fuck either way about Joe Caltech. But if I can amuse myself and others by trashing him on an Internet message board, then isn't it all in good fun? It's been a pleasure flaming with you. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:45 AM Author: Navy market "The truth is that I really don't give a fuck either way about Joe Caltech."
Hmm. I don't think you'd tell his real-life buddies he's "a huge cocksucker" then.
His mere existence clearly eats at you. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:51 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I was fucking drunk that night. I wouldn't have said it if I were sober. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377544) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:52 AM Author: Navy market In vino veritas. Clearly he's wedged himself into your mind, or else he wouldn't be your topic of choice when you get on the internet to vent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377547) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 3:02 AM Author: Curious affirmative action When I'm on XO, I'm not in a good psychological state. When I am, I avoid this place. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377612) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:10 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Scholastic Writing, National Gold Award. Twice.
Suck my cock, bitch. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:16 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw You mean this?
http://www.scholastic.com/artandwritingawards/index.htm
Can't even cite something you won after graduating high school? |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:23 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I didn't have enough time in college and afterward to write competitively, or to seriously consider aiming at publishing something substantial. Writing a novel takes much more effort than some SAT-prep clown outfit, and I just haven't had the time yet. I'd like to, some day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377364) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:25 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw No time in college? What the hell were you doing with your time? It's not like you majored in science or engineering or something that would require tons of out of class time (and even Joe found the time to start a business and do various other cool things despite his time intensive major). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377387) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:27 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I had time in college. The point is that to write a good novel takes A LOT of time, and single-minded focus, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377399) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:30 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw Single-minded focus? You do realize that the vast majority of novelists have real jobs besides writing novels and only view novel writing as a side thing, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377418) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:39 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Yeah, but those are 40 hpw jobs, which are at the least more compact (if not necessarily more time-consuming) than being a student. Also, the best novelists seem to do their best work when they can do it close to full-time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377478) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:41 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw Being a student is as far from a 40 hour a week job as you can get. If you're in a non-engineering non-science major and are putting 40 hours a week into schoolwork you're doing something seriously wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377487) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:44 AM Author: Curious affirmative action That's very true, but there are other commitments as well.
Actually, I knew plenty of very smart people who put 40+ hpw into schoolwork, though I wasn't one of them. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:18 AM Author: Navy market Google: "scholastic writing" "national gold award"
8 results
Google: "rhodes scholar"
497,000 results
So that's only like 5 orders of magnitude difference in prestige. Good job with that, man. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:20 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I can't believe you're using Google hits to prove a point. Don't you realize that Google is the most easily manipulable search engine out there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377339) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:24 AM Author: Navy market Oh, you're right. Joe is probably planting "Rhodes Scholar" references out there at the same time he DOS attacks any site mentioning your award. I'm sorry that I hadn't considered the possibility. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377376) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:27 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw Come on pensive, are you *really* trying to argue that some high school writing certificate award is even remotely on par with the Rhodes? Give me a break. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377397) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:29 AM Author: Curious affirmative action The Rhodes lost all of its prestige when the scholarship was given to that loser-fucker. It was originally *supposed* to follow from accomplishment and excellence, but evidently that fell by the wayside, at least in one case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377411) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:43 AM Author: Navy market Many undergrads are very difficult to get into. Just not the ones you got into. That's why you don't attach much importance to it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376998) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:46 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Undergrad admission is a pure numbers game with a bit of luck thrown in, and also knowing the system. For a person who knows the system and can crack 1500 on the SATs, no undergrad is "very difficult to get into". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377029) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:48 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw "Undergrad admission is a pure numbers game"
And yet every reputable source says otherwise. But thankfully we have Mike Church here to set us all straight! |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:49 AM Author: Navy market Plenty of kids with 1600s get rejected from HYPSMC. (Not so much from Carleton or Chicago, I'll grant you.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377047) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:50 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Right, because those schools love to brag about how many 1600s they reject.
Nice edit, by the way. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:52 AM Author: Navy market I decided I'd just be more direct with you, as you rarely grasp anything too subtle. So yes, it was a very nice edit. Thanks!
OK. Lots of kids with 1590s get rejected as well. Point still stands. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:57 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I doubt your latter claim. These schools reject the 1600s specifically because they got 1600 and it's a trendy thing to brag about. You're almost certainly better off with a 1590. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377106) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:13 AM Author: Navy market And now it's everyone's favorite time: we ask pensive to prove his absurd claims!
Please go ahead and do so. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:20 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw I'm still waiting for him to explain away Chicago's performance in the revealed preference study. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377335) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:39 AM Author: Navy market This is STRIKINGLY SIMILAR to his prestige rankings for women.
Are we sensing a pattern? |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:15 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw If it's all self selection, then why is it's yield so shitty? Every other good school with a self selection issue (BYU, Notre Dame, etc.) have high yields that go along with their high acceptance rates.
A high quality applicant pool, a high acceptance rate, and a low yield is evidence for one thing... safety school for Ivy applicants. Or at least that's what the people in my high school viewed it. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:45 AM Author: Vigorous chocolate brethren I think you mean "low yield." It doesn't make sense the other way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377020) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:49 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw Thanks, I'll edit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377052) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:03 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw "What does this matter, given that I went to Carleton for location and educational model"
Yeah, and people turn down Harvard for Boston University because Harvard has too many snobs. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:04 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I'm actually telling the truth, you idiot. Some of us aren't lower-middle class striver trash who make our educational decisions based on name-recognition alone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376624) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:07 AM Author: Navy market But you slam Joe mercilessly for thoughtlessly choosing a field which (you claim!) is less prestigious than math? (Even though, let's be fair, you want to sell out and use your math on Wall Street, not push back the boundaries of human knowledge.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376658) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:12 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Actually, Joe Caltech's field (aerospace engineering) is quite respectable. In fact, it's prestigious. I believe that engineering programs are much larger, though, which would make it less selective. It's PrepMe for which I slam him, which is less prestigious than prostitution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376718) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:13 AM Author: Navy market It's fucking rocket science, man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376728) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:08 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw The difference is that people like Becca who turn down good schools like Stanford and MIT for no-name places like Carleton actually have Stanford and MIT acceptance letters in hand when they make the decision. Where're yours? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376671) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:10 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I didn't apply because I consider it wrong to apply to places where one isn't interested in attending, and at the time I wasn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376692) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:12 AM Author: Navy market Oh, bless your moral little heart. Why the Harvard app then? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376717) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:15 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I applied before the visit that convinced me that I didn't want to go there (which was before the interview). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376749) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:55 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw "Top-15 math departments have very low acceptance rates, often in the single digits"
Yeah, and MIT, Caltech, Princeton, and Michigan all have reputations for being the Cooleys of aerospace engineering -- they accept anyone and everyone to their PhD programs! |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:57 AM Author: Curious affirmative action So GTO, answer this, and you cannot say "the same": Who is more prestigious, 174 or Joe Caltech? If you do not answer, you are calling them both unprestigious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376565) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:00 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw I'd have to go with Joe Caltech. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376591) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:01 AM Author: Curious affirmative action You have set yourself up for a massive pwning by a superior poster. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376603) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:03 AM Author: Navy market Summering at a V5 isn't THAT special. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376616) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:05 AM Author: Curious affirmative action That's not why he's prestigious. His superior intellect, culture, and breeding also contribute. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376634) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:11 AM Author: Navy market Empty platitudes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376697) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:05 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw Considering that I'm the only person here who knows where 174 is working and where he goes to school, I think I'm in a lot better position to judge than you are. 174 is prestigious (definitely more prestigious than me), but I'd be surprised if he even he thought he was more prestigious than Joe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376636) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:21 AM Author: Curious affirmative action This is self-contradictory. You put 174 above yourself, but you are more prestigious than Joe Caltech, and therefore that would prove that 174 > Joe Caltech. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376811) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:27 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw I'm not more prestigious than Joe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376871) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:30 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Yeah you are. You could still fuck up by doing something really unprestigious a la PrepMe, but right now you're leagues ahead of that loser-fucker. I don't know why you're on here defending him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376905) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:09 AM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship you know what else has very low acceptance rates
THE FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:14 AM Author: Navy market hahahahaha
You're too good at this. I haven't seen him pwned like this since the thread that Joe made last week.
I hope to heck you're not actually Joe, because that would spoil it. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:19 AM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship no, i wish
just giving credit where credit is due. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:21 AM Author: Navy market you know what else [blank]...
THE FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP
That should become the standard response to pensive. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:24 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Why do you guys suck his dick so much? What has he done for you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376838) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:38 AM Author: Navy market Apparently he once took the time to give Jul. Shock some advice, although I didn't know that before today. The things you learn. GTO knows him personally somehow. As for everyone else, I think it's really more about you than him.
In the absence of you, people probably wouldn't even talk about Joe, now that he's gone. But that's partly because there's nothing much to say: he's really fucking prestigious, probably the most prestigious ever to post on the board, which everyone can see (even though a lot of people thought he was either really boring or too Republican), and that's that.
But then you come along and toss your pebbles, and really the whole thing sheds a lot more light on you than it does on Joe, who remains pretty inert. Case in point, YOU turned this into a thread about him, and he didn't even post. YOU were the first to mention his name. Barring that one thread he made after GTO told him what you'd been up to after he was gone, he's not even around. We may safely assume he's getting drunk off his ass with a few pints of bitter right now.
Why are you so obsessed? THAT is really the point that interests everyone (or at least me). It's a bit like watching a trainwreck, except with a narcissistic, psycho-stalker instead of a train. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:40 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I'm disgusted that people think such a loser is prestigious, that's all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376979) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:44 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw So that's why you do the online equivalent of stalking the guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377006) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:45 AM Author: Navy market And the fact that you honestly believe that (and we know you do--it comes through strong and clear--this part is NOT schtick) is what makes it so interesting for the rest of the board. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377014) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:43 AM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship its really not hard to see why.
he's jealous and intimidated.
he wants to put down what he cant beat.
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:48 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Um, two good friends of mine-- 174 and Media Kid-- ran Joe Caltech off the board, never to return. I'm just dancing on his grave a little bit. I'm not jealous of that loser, would never switch positions, and really don't think about him at all when I'm not on XO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377042) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:51 AM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship board prestige is not the same as real life prestige.
they are most likely inversly related in fact, but that's an argument for a different day.
Also, 174 and Media Kid are not friends of yours. They represent internet monikers of people you have never met. Get that straight. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:58 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Well, 174 is maybe more of an acquaintance, but I have met Media Kid and correspond with him frequently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377119) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:04 AM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship Are you subtly trying to claim that you are prestigious because you converse on the internet (and occasionally in person) with two other people who are deemed to be prestigious by an internet chatroom and that this tenuous connection makes you better than a rhodes scholar enterprenuer with real friends and real girlfriends?
My god. this board is like an alternate universe.
and I thought shrooms were fucked up. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:06 AM Author: Curious affirmative action No, that's not why I'm more prestigious than Joe Caltech. His "entrepreneurship" is bunk, I have real friends as well, and I could have a girlfriend if I lowered my standards enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377210) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:08 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw How is his entrepreneurship bunk? It's a real business and he's making real money.
"I could have a girlfriend if I lowered my standards enough"
Didn't you say earlier in this thread that you only cared about real accomplishments? |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:12 AM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship whatever GTO let it slide.
some people are just psychotic.
that's it pensive. you've won. you are smarter, more accomplished, more cultivated, better looking, and more popular than everyone here, including Joe Caltech.
I bow in awe of your prestige.
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(PS- i am really going to bed this time. i cant believe how much time i wasted trying to knock some common sense into an absolute idiot.) |
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Date: July 11th, 2006 2:43 PM Author: Abusive turquoise parlour haunted graveyard PrepMe is *alright*, but Joe didn't do shit to start it, as far as I can see. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#6187117) |
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Date: July 11th, 2006 2:40 PM Author: hilarious amethyst cuckold "and I could have a girlfriend if I lowered my standards enough. "
180. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:55 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw I've spoken with 174 offboard and I'd be amazed if he really thought he drove Joe off the board.
I think it should be obvious to everyone on here that the reason Joe doesn't post that often now is because of, well, him being in England and all, cause he won the FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:55 AM Author: Navy market Hmm. It seems more likely to me that he left for Europe (at about exactly the same time his business took off) and lost interest. But if you'd like to believe that your computer "friends" scared away the big bad guy whose very presence on the board got you all worked up, go right ahead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377092) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:59 AM Author: Curious affirmative action It's a fact. He left as soon as 174 and Media Kid mounted their summer offensive, because he was finally successfully pwned. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377130) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:01 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw Yeah, and him moving to Europe and having his business boom had absolutely nothing to do with it, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377161) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:13 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Right, because they don't have any computer terminals in England. I forgot about that fact. Guess I'm pwned, then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377271) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:22 AM Author: Navy market What exactly did they do that was so bad again? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377353) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:46 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw Are you trying to tell us that you turned down Harvard, MIT, Caltech, etc. for Carleton? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376459) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:49 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I didn't apply to MIT, or Caltech, because at the time I was afraid that if I did I'd get too specialized and not be well-rounded.
I only applied to Harvard because I was told I should, and blew it by telling the interviewer that I didn't want to go.
At the time, I was really sick of the East Coast-- the mentality and the people-- and wanted to spend some time in the Midwest. I also wanted to be in a liberal-arts college environment. The best LAC in the Midwest, according to most people you'll ask, is Carleton. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:51 AM Author: Navy market And we all know how well-rounded you are today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376495) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:52 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Quite well-rounded, actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376512) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:55 AM Author: Navy market Really. Do you pursue anything in athletics, or music, or fine art? Are you at all accomplished in those fields? Or do you spend all your free time sitting around in the dark and typing on your computer?
A truly well-rounded person probably would've had a relationship by the time they graduated from college too, you know. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:07 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I run, and lift weights occasionally but not as often as I should. As for music and fine arts, I admire people who are talented in them, but they aren't my forte. I am accomplished in writing, game design, and mathematics. I think that's enough.
Admittedly, I've spent too much time online PWNing you loser-fuckers in the past few months. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:09 AM Author: Navy market "I am accomplished in writing, game design, and mathematics."
You're accomplished in mathematics. Period. (And not even THAT accomplished. Not accomplished on, say, the level that a Rhodes Scholarship might recognize.) You tinker around with game design, and we're all still waiting for your book to come out.
Even if it were actually true, that's a far cry from making you well-rounded. "writing, game design, and mathematics"? Come on, man. That's not well-rounded. That's Dork-O-Rama. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 10:28 PM Author: Curious affirmative action Yes, it would be better for me to get that book, but right now I'm doing other things. Besides, my superior writing skills inflame you already, post by post, so that's enough satisfaction for me.
More to the point, you're a loser so uninformed about the nature of reality that it's laughable. Please learn how life actually works; you are lacking in this knowledge and it shows in every post you write. Wikipedia would be a place to start. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 10:32 PM Author: Navy market Wikipedia sure schooled you in the ways of the world, or gave it the old college try at least. Unfortunately, it didn't take. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4382854) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 10:41 PM Author: Curious affirmative action The Wikipedia community is a massive TTT full of fucked-up people, but you can use it as a reference. I'm not saying that it's perfect, but it will make you, you personally, more knowledgable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4382920) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:57 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw "I only applied to Harvard because I was told I should, and blew it by telling the interviewer that I didn't want to go."
Wait, so you actually got rejected from Harvard on the merits, and not because of some big "We Hate Mike Church" conspiracy working behind the scenes? Wow, who knew. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:00 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Yep. I said that I didn't want to go there, and got rejected, and I deserved it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376593) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:03 AM Author: Navy market "I said that I didn't want to go there..."
I highly doubt that was included on your app. You gave it your best shot and failed, Mr. Well-Rounded. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:19 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I said this on my interview, and that's what caused me to get dinged. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377327) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:27 AM Author: Navy market I believe you would have gotten dinged anyway. Unfortunately for both of us, we have now way of knowing who's right--of course, the fact that Harvard has a 90% rejection rate, combined with your unbalanced profile and lack of a real "hook," might give us a little hint. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377395) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:41 AM Author: Curious affirmative action You are wrong. I exceeded the median student at any undergrad in terms of academic merit. I had quite the "hook" and a well-rounded profile, for a high school student. I admit that my accomplishments to the time were not impressive by an adult standard, but they were damn impressive for the high school standard, which is what undergrad adcoms care about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377488) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:50 AM Author: Navy market Yes, you exceeded them in academic merit on one subject: math. And absolutely nothing else.
The median Harvard student does better than 710 on the verbal SAT section, and that's just for starters. Your "quite the hook" was in fact quite typical (close to a pre-requisite, even) for admission to Harvard to study math. Your profile is well-rounded in your dreams alone. Maybe if you'd been a talented figure skater or a super oboist.
And then later on in life, after 4 years of study during which you presumably believe you improved yourself, you once AGAIN weren't good enough to get into Harvard. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 10:24 PM Author: Curious affirmative action I took the SAT cold. I could have gotten much higher if I had prepped, and you're dead wrong and deluded about everything else. You've obviously never been to Harvard given how much you seem to worship the place (you overestimate its selectivty by far) and therefore I can only judge that you're a massive TTT. I'm sorry that I incite your insecurity, but you won't improve your life by inciting me, so get over yourself.
Also, UW math PhD >>> HC ugrad in terms of selectivity. There's no comparison. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 10:29 PM Author: Navy market You know what's more selective than HC and UW math PhD put together?
THE FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 10:42 PM Author: Curious affirmative action Statistically speaking, that's true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4382922) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:23 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw "Well, this doesn't apply for the latter three (since the programs don't exist) but law:"
Joe isn't applying to law schools so how is this even remotely relevant? We were talking about PhD programs.
"I'm pretty confident that, given what I can do on the Putnam, I'd be able to crack 175 on the LSAT, which would get me in anywhere I wanted to go."
Of 139 applicants to Yale Law with a 175+ LSAT and a 3.75+ GPA, only 62 got accepted.
http://officialguide.lsac.org/OFFGUIDE/pdf/lsac3987.pdf
"I could get into the top business schools by getting in through investment banking or consulting."
You do realize you have to interview for those jobs, right?
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:28 AM Author: Curious affirmative action YLS is uncertain for pretty much anyone, and it would be so for me, too.
I would ace the interviews, no problem. I'm only a prick online in places where it doesn't matter. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:33 AM Author: Navy market What about, oh, those four years at Carleton? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376367) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:37 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I wasn't a prick then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376392) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:38 AM Author: Concupiscible pocket flask hey mike, why'd you end up badmouthing for months the only girl who came even close to giving you a chance? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376402) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:43 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Because the cunt didn't give me a chance. She was a horrid, lying bitch. More to the point, there was a different woman who *did* give me a chance, I met her a month later, but I wasn't ready for her because I was still getting over this bitch in my past. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376442) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:45 AM Author: Concupiscible pocket flask sounds like something a prick would do as far as i'm concerned (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376454) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:51 AM Author: Curious affirmative action You don't know this girl but she's a fucking awful person, I despise her, and I always will, and if that makes me a prick, then I'm a prick. Fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376494) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:21 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw "You don't know this girl but she's a fucking awful person, I despise her, and I always will,"
You managed to come to that conclusion after knowing her for just six days? That's amazing... I guess you used the same superior intellect skills you used to determine that Joe is Satan himself without having ever met the guy. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:27 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I knew her for a lot longer. She guilt-tripped me into pretending to be "friends" with her after the breakup. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376879) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:59 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw "More to the point, there was a different woman who *did* give me a chance, I met her a month later, but I wasn't ready for her because I was still getting over this bitch in my past."
Who knew six days could have that kind of profound impact on someone's life. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:52 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw "YLS is uncertain for pretty much anyone, and it would be so for me, too."
So in other words, you were wrong above about a 175 LSAT making you a shoo-in at any law school.
"I would ace the interviews, no problem. I'm only a prick online in places where it doesn't matter."
Okay, so what's stopping you from sending your resume to McKinsey, going on an interview, and proving all of us wrong?
Oh wait, nevermind... We all know that the big Carleton conspiracy that made your life a living hell for four years has infiltrated the ranks of the McKinsey HR department, as well as the HR department of every consulting and IBank in the world. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:55 AM Author: Curious affirmative action "Okay, so what's stopping you from sending your resume to McKinsey, going on an interview, and proving all of us wrong?"
The fact that, at least right now, I don't want to go there, and that I think it's wrong to give people false leads. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:33 AM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship "if i had"
"im sure i could"
right
i could play in the NBA too, i just dont like the lifestyle. too much about the "bling-bling" and not enough about the love of the game.
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:34 AM Author: Navy market Particularly ironic since one of his main attacks on Joe's pile of accomplishments is "he doesn't have anything real." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376371) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:03 AM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship OK. Let's pretend here that you are extremely intelligent. This might be stretching it, but this is the assumption. There are three "tracks" you can choose:
1) You work hard and acheive incredible things, rightfully drawing the respect and admiriation of everyone around you. This is the path Joe chose.
2) You do very little work and slide through whatever task that faces you through intelligence alone. You are moderately succesful (t15 undergrad, t6 law, etc...) but very relaxed. Hang out with friends. Watch movies. Get drunk. Smoke pot. Retire early. You may not live up to your potential, but you can at least relax and enjoy life.
(this is the path I like to think I am taking, through an inability to sustain myself at the #1 level for anywhere longer than a month at a time)
3) You are too high strung to enjoy 2 but too worthless to acheive 1. You spend your whole life bitching and complaining about what you "could do" and wonder why you die miserable, alone, and unknown. 2's laugh at you and 1's don't even know you exist.
Which one are you?
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:23 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I'm #1, thought I wouldn't call my accomplishments "incredible", and the path Joe Caltech chose is actually #3. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376829) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:30 AM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship lets get cracking on these accomplishments. list them.
and shit like "getting into x school and getting an x GPA" doesnt count because
1) 75% of people on this board did the same or better
2) thats not an accomplishment. see the "sliding by on intelligence" in #2 |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:30 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw What exactly have you accomplished other than Carleton UG and acceptance to a Wisconsin PhD program (which you might not even finish, given the high attrition rates), neither of which is worth bragging about in the first place? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376903) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:33 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Actually, UW PhD is more selective than any undergrad. Anyway, I generally consider school admissions not worth bragging about, so I agree with you.
I've won national writing contests, was a frequent columnist for college publications. (I need to get cracking on some more widespread things, but right now I don't have the time.) I've written a card game that has been published in a Japanese print magazine, without me submitting it. (They made initial contact.) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:41 AM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship Really?
a card game you say?
well, i thought we were comparing a self-made millionare rhodes scholar to just a NORMAL bitter grad student, not a bitter grad student who made a card game.
well never mind then. I am truly impressed with your prestige.
I wonder if anyone has made a Wikipedia entry about your game.
That would be even a higher level of prestige. a godlike level.
(PS- I really am not trying to be mean. I'm sure its a great game. But just realize when someone has acheived more than you, and be happy for them. Nobody will think less of you for it.)
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:43 AM Author: Curious affirmative action "But just realize when someone has acheived more than you, and be happy for them."
Lots of people have achieved more than me, but some TTT clown outfit of a business doesn't cut it. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:49 AM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship Let's phrase this in a Jeopordy question:
Answer: 1,000 more impressive than anything you have ever done or received in your entire life.
Question: what is THE FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP
Also, I am going to bed. But a few days from now, when you wonder why you are feeling lonely and that girl hasn't called, please re-read this thread. Maybe you'll get it. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:47 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw You know what's even more selective than any UW PhD program?
THE FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP
Some Japanese print magazine writing about your card game without you submitting it is an accomplishment? Dude, Joe's business was on the fucking COVER of Fortune Small Business magazine and was on CNN, and that was just stuff that happened this month.
And I can't believe you're actually citing publishing in your student newspaper as an accomplishment. It's not like those places reject anyone, especially at a place as small as Carleton. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:52 AM Author: Curious affirmative action "Dude, Joe's business was on the fucking COVER of Fortune Small Business magazine and was on CNN, and that was just stuff that happened this month."
I don't suck cock, never did and never will. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:57 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw Way to dodge the entire point of the post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377105) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:01 AM Author: Curious affirmative action No, because we both know exactly how he got on the cover of Fortune (which is an arriviste TTT anyway, but that's another matter entirely.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377152) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:02 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw Let me guess, he told the editor-in-chief she had nice shoes and she loved him so much that she put his business on the cover? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377170) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:05 AM Author: Curious affirmative action It was clearly through some sort of sycophantry or bribery, not merit, though the precise mechanism is unknown. The loser-fucker's crafty and without principle, so anything's possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377196) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:55 AM Author: Multi-colored Associate Theater Stage I'm not sure which is worse: pensive's self-aggrandizement or your fellating Joe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377090) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:58 AM Author: Navy market The self-aggrandizement. Easily.
This is almost cosmic. Pensive spews so much hate that an equal and opposite reaction has to spill out somewhere to compensate. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:04 AM Author: Multi-colored Associate Theater Stage I am not convinced that being a rabid apologist is ever an appropriate reaction. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377188) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:53 AM Author: Navy market Fight fire with fire, I guess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377559) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:07 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw "Technically I lost that subargument, but the fact that Joe Caltech is a loser with a TTT cow-fuck business still stands,"
And yet, that "loser" won a Rhodes, has gotten into every undergrad and grad program he's ever applied to, got a 3.8+ GPA at Caltech, published a very successful book that got multiple printings, and his "TTT cow-fuck business" wins countless entrepreneurial competitions, makes a lot of money, and gets significant media attention. Plus some other stuff I've probably forgotten.
Yeah, what a loser. I'd hate to have that kind of lifestyle. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:12 AM Author: Curious affirmative action The "multiple printings" were the result of stragetic sycophantry, and that's a fact. His PrepMe company is not only an embarrassment to him, his family, and his community, but also to anyone who lives within 50 miles of any place that fucker has ever been. It's the most embarrassing business in recent American history.
That said, his GPA and undergrad are impressive, as is his graduate degree, but that's about all he has that's real. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:18 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw "The "multiple printings" were the result of stragetic sycophantry, and that's a fact."
Yeah, cause everyone knows that all the major publishing companies just *love* to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars printing multiple runs of books that they know won't sell just because an author is good at flattery.
"His PrepMe company is not only an embarrassment to him, his family, and his community, but also to anyone who lives within 50 miles of any place that fucker has ever been. It's the most embarrassing business in recent American history."
Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.
"but that's about all he has that's real."
And the Rhodes.
And the millions he has earned or will soon earn from his business.
Oh, and don't forget his friends and romantic relationships (the kind that last more than six days). |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:25 AM Author: Curious affirmative action On publishing companies, I'm sure it only sold because of promotional and distributional support that it got because of his flattery. Let's face the fact: he's not a good writer, and there are plenty of high-scorers out there who could write a better book.
The Rhodes he got on account of his phony, unprestigious book. If the Rhodes Committee values, as sometimes asserted, being "good with people", then this proves him to be a cheater because he would only get it by sending someone else to do his interview. (For the record, I'm not accusing him of cheating; I'm arguing that the Rhodes Committee doesn't care about interpersonal skill, citing him as case-in-point.)
If he earns millions from his business, I don't care, because he'll never get into respectable society with a business called "PrepMe". Just the name is vomit-inducing.
As for his girlfriends, well anyone can get a girlfriend if he lowers his standards, so I'm not impressed at all. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:39 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw "On publishing companies, I'm sure it only sold because of promotional and distributional support that it got because of his flattery."
Do you know *anything* about how the publishing industry works? Unless you're J.K. Rawlings, you're not going to get any promotional help from anyone on the basis of flattery, especially for something like test prep that's non-fiction and appeals to a niche audience.
"Let's face the fact: he's not a good writer, and there are plenty of high-scorers out there who could write a better book."
And yet his book not only got published, but sold extremely well, to the point where there were multiple printings, which is very rare, particularly for a first time author. Guess he must've done something right (or are you going to tell me that his mom bought 50,000 copies of the book to drive up sales?).
"The Rhodes he got on account of his phony, unprestigious book."
Yeah, I'm sure the Rhodes Committee ignored the 3.8+ from CalTech and the Michigan's master's degree and based their entire decision on a book he wrote more than four years ago before he even started college. After all, everyone knows that Cecil Rhodes had a hardon for SAT prep.
"If the Rhodes Committee values, as sometimes asserted, being "good with people", then this proves him to be a cheater because he would only get it by sending someone else to do his interview."
I take it you base this on your intimate firsthand experience of knowing and interacting with the guy in person?
Seems like Joe is one crafty bastard, not only pulling the wool over the eyes of a publishing company and all the judges of the entrepreneurial competitions he's won, but also tricking the entire Rhodes Committee. I'll never know how he can sleep at night!
But good thing we have Mike Church, the one who hasn't had a sip of Joe's Kool-Aid, to set all of us straight! |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:47 AM Author: Curious affirmative action "Seems like Joe is one crafty bastard, not only pulling the wool over the eyes of a publishing company and all the judges of the entrepreneurial competitions he's won, but also tricking the entire Rhodes Committee."
You're finally starting to get it. I'm glad to see this. We've made some serious progress, and though I'm limited in how much I can help you, I have faith that if you listen to me, you'll eventually know how the world works. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:52 AM Author: Navy market Sarcasm is lost on this guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376503) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:23 AM Author: Navy market "It's the most embarrassing business in recent American history."
Uh, hello, Enron? Are you even on Earth anymore, or have you taken up permanent residence on the Planet Jealous? |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:30 AM Author: Curious affirmative action PrepMe is worse than Enron, though I admit that they're pretty close. Enron's fuckup hurt more people and therefore got more exposure, but I wouldn't spit on someone who said he had worked in upper management at Enron; in fact, I'd be interested in his perspective on the matter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376346) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:35 AM Author: Navy market What about the scores of other companies in the test prep market? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376379) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:38 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Those at least don't have "PrepMe" as a name, which is a huge start. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376400) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:42 AM Author: Navy market It's a stupid name, but less pretentious than something like "Princeton Review." And what's in a name anyway? Lots of brands have stupid-sounding names. Shouldn't someone as sophisticated as yourself know to look deeper?
In fact, doesn't the company's success while saddled with a stupid name make it seem even better? |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:44 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw Yup, the "PrepMe" name has really hurt them! That's probably why they make no money, get no media coverage, and lose every business competition they enter.
Oh wait... |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:44 AM Author: claret alcoholic cruise ship its better than your company which is apparently
"stuck up grad students who cant handle that someone has actually acheived more than them in life" inc. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:48 AM Author: Concupiscible pocket flask don't forget ambition. it's sorta the analagous thing in mike's life to joe's prepme stuff. i guess the difference is that people pay joe for prepme, while mike has to wheedle and beg people to play ambition, and then does stuff like whine and throw a hissy fit when they leave early.
prepme needs a new name. sounds like something a 5th grader came up with in 10 seconds. first real point mike's made here, and oh but is it ever minor. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:09 AM Author: Curious affirmative action "mike has to wheedle and beg people to play ambition, and then does stuff like whine and throw a hissy fit when they leave early."
Wrong. Anyway, you've never met me and are talking out of your ass. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:12 AM Author: ruby alpha bbw "Wrong. Anyway, you've never met me and are talking out of your ass."
You having never met Joe hasn't stopped you from bashing him over the course of 200+ posts tonight. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:32 AM Author: Curious affirmative action Well, he exists to be bashed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377424) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:39 AM Author: Navy market From this thread at least, it seems like you're alone in that view.
I think most of the posters tonight would agree that YOU exist to be bashed. You seem to like it, even. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:45 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I enjoy flamewars, and I really don't care about being bashed by people whose opinions I don't respect at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377517) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:51 AM Author: Navy market Ah, the excuse of last resort for pensive. From what I hear, this one didn't go over so well at Carleton, did it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377546) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 3:01 AM Author: Curious affirmative action What are you talking about?
Yeah, I got into some flamewars back then, and they were fun, but that's over now. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:54 AM Author: Curious affirmative action I haven't started that company yet, and it needs a better name. Working on it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376529) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:44 PM Author: Vigorous chocolate brethren Haha, a much younger version of me posted in that thread. I can't believe I actually considered applying to CalTech. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376096) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:47 PM Author: Navy market You got some pretty detailed answers out of him.
It's weird to see the board again back when it was more about colleges than... other stuff. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:52 PM Author: ruby alpha bbw Actually he already applied to the PhD programs mentioned earlier in the thread (CalTech, Princeton, MIT, etc.) and got into all of them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376127) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 7:17 PM Author: Slate Meetinghouse Athletic Conference pensive is an insecure douche. he's been doing the same thing to the harvard girl who copied another author in her book. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#5666618) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 7:31 PM Author: Concupiscible pocket flask ironically, that harvard girl actually won the writing award he brags about in this thread.
by contrast, i assume her chances at a rhodes are shot after this.
insecure douche about sums it up for pensive though. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:54 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Boistinker Why don't you focus on something less specific than a Rhodes Scholarship? It sounds like a stretch, especially since you do not go to Yale, Harvard, MIT, CalTech, Stanford etc . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374216) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:56 PM Author: Outnumbered Bawdyhouse thats actually not at all of high importance for being a Rhodes scholar. personality and character are far more important. they'd rather see an interesting, dedicated, enterprising young adult at a state school than an IVY grad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374225) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:58 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Boistinker But there is nothing special about this poster based on her EC's. She is like pretty much every other pre-med psycho I know. She truly has not done anything that will make her stand out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374234) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:59 PM Author: avocado metal casino I am only a sophomore. HTH! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374236) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 6:00 PM Author: twisted hell I agree with this. While there are lots of people who win the most prestigious fellowships from the ivy's +MIT/Caltech/Stanford/Service Academies I think it's mostly because those schools attract that type of people. There are more straight up geniuses/really involved people etc. walking around Yale than StateU. But these people aren't like that b/c they go to Yale. I think most of the RS winners from lesser schools probably could have gone to many of the highly represented schools on the list had they wanted to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374238) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:56 PM Author: ruddy office milk Harvard is out, Navy is in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374227) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 6:02 PM Author: avocado metal casino I want to study Health and Health Policy at Oxford, please help me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374250) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 6:05 PM Author: twisted hell you know, you can just apply there and do the program after you graduate. it sounds like you want to be a RS to win friends and influence people. know that they will seek to discover people like that and have, doubtlessly, devised methods of doing so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374268) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 6:10 PM Author: avocado metal casino Yeah but being a rhodes scholar seems pretty damn prestigious, like it would open doors and stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374294) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 6:08 PM Author: avocado metal casino Hi everyone.
So I am interested in AIDS/HIV but do not have enough of a background to pursue HIV research from a biological standpoint. So I am thinking that I will focus on the anthropological and sociological effects and do field research with that? What do you guys think? What kind of a research project could I come up with that focuses on HIV/AIDS in some way, and that is significant? |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:36 PM Author: Vibrant Nudist Corner Subject: if you're serious Why don't you browse through other people's projects to get ideas? It's easy to come up with stuff when you look at other projects and see what's wrong with them.
This is how I came up with a three month research project last year. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:40 PM Author: avocado metal casino Where do I look at other people's research projects though? thanks! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374620) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:42 PM Author: Vibrant Nudist Corner Well, I combed through NSF, because they post their grant info. and the abstracts of the projects on their website. I also talked to profs, who referred me to other people, who in turn referred me to other people.
Tell me more specifically; what type of project are you thinking of? What field, and in what breadth? |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:45 PM Author: avocado metal casino I would like to do a research project on HIV/AIDS. Anthropology-based. (I do not have much of a scientific background.) That is all that I know. :(
thank you. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 8:16 PM Author: Vibrant Nudist Corner But what about it? "Anthropology based" could mean anything.
If you really have no idea whatsoever, than you should do a little reading to at least familiarize yourself with issues. |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 9:55 PM Author: sable flirting yarmulke Christ almighty. Do you have a science background or not? Do you now understand why we have no problem treating you like shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4382482) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:16 PM Author: twisted hell get raped. (serious response) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375282) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:25 PM Author: sable flirting yarmulke There's nothing interesting that an individual can introduce in the HIV/AIDS field. Seriously. It's been done to death. You're better off working in a lesser-known, less trendy subject area.
If you drop the "significant" part, there's lots of shit you can do. |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:52 PM Author: Floppy dingle berry becky don't go to harvard. they had 0 rhodes scholars this year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374684) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 8:23 PM Author: citrine gas station personal credit line H is a TTT in decline. Best in Asia though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374873) |
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Date: July 11th, 2006 3:37 PM Author: avocado metal casino oh wow, who bumped this thread? For an update, I'm right now in Tanzania doing HIV/AIDS research with my concentration being in the field of biological anthropology. I'm now in Dar Es Salaam but I will be traveling to small villages (particularly one small village that has had an unexpectedly large increase in HIV+ population) as I plan to focus my research on rural Southern Tanzania
I still want to be a rhodes scholar but if that doesn't work out i'm going to apply for fulbright or some other international fellowships because I want to do something with HIV
anyway, internet connection here is so slow :( Bye!!! |
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Date: July 11th, 2006 3:58 PM Author: Glittery Lilac Tattoo cool, I did my thesis on environmental policy in Southern Tanzania. you should visit Ruaha and Katavi if you're not flame.
edit: what TTT do you attend? |
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Date: July 11th, 2006 4:02 PM Author: avocado metal casino Oh really what did you do? What was your thesis for?
Also I don't really attend a TTT. |
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Date: July 11th, 2006 4:19 PM Author: Glittery Lilac Tattoo "what did you do?" Won't specify, but you may read about it soon.
"What was your thesis for?" Do you know what a thesis is? Silly question.
"Also I don't really attend a TTT." Anything outside of HYP is TTT. If you prefer, I can pose the question differently: What semi-TTT do you attend?
Your internet connect really seems to be struggling.
hth
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Date: July 11th, 2006 4:24 PM Author: avocado metal casino "Won't specify, but you may read about it soon."
I doubt it. Considering the fact that you are a TTT, I am sure your thesis was on the same level.
hth |
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Date: July 11th, 2006 4:35 PM Author: Glittery Lilac Tattoo I actually graduated summa, but nice try. I'm sorry you find reality so harsh.
But enough -- I'll leave you to play in your little fantasy world.
hth
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