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lemon gaped corner
  04/18/16
who/whom whom just sounds too formal to use 99% of the ti...
boyish mewling double fault
  04/18/16
I know which is correct 100% of the time, but it's usually j...
amber big people who are hurt parlor
  04/18/16
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lemon gaped corner
  04/18/16
I use who/m AND the subjunctive when speaking. Its how wome...
flickering concupiscible telephone shrine
  04/18/16
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Cheese-eating newt fat ankles
  04/18/16
shut up doobs
Cowardly Bisexual Idea He Suggested Locale
  04/18/16
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odious learning disabled dog poop
  04/18/16
Comma placement. Because there are so many conflicting "...
Harsh Institution
  04/18/16
EXPLAIN
lemon gaped corner
  04/18/16
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Harsh Institution
  04/18/16
Are you going to EXPLAIN?
lemon gaped corner
  04/18/16
No, not really.
flickering concupiscible telephone shrine
  04/18/16
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lemon gaped corner
  04/18/16
Who/whom is tricky, but it doesn't come up way too often ...
very tactful multi-colored quadroon
  04/18/16
Purple people-eater (the thing that eats people is purple) ...
lemon gaped corner
  04/18/16
I really struggle with colons and semicolons.
purple balding theatre incel
  04/18/16
A colon starts a list, a semicolon connects too closely rela...
flickering concupiscible telephone shrine
  04/18/16
While a simple, easy rule for mouthbreathers, proper colon u...
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
In English, unless you are a professional writer, don't mess...
flickering concupiscible telephone shrine
  04/18/16
The colon is used to separate two independent clauses when t...
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
This.
nubile zippy doctorate national security agency
  04/18/16
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aggressive diverse resort
  04/18/16
Colons can also be used for emphasis (arguably in lieu of an...
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
This.
nubile zippy doctorate national security agency
  04/18/16
lol cr.
nubile zippy doctorate national security agency
  04/18/16
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alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
I find the whole subject/object (e.g., "she" v. &q...
citrine windowlicker
  04/18/16
It definitely is conceptually strange. The way I learne...
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
Because "to be" is not a transitive verb. No one ...
flickering concupiscible telephone shrine
  04/18/16
Everything mentioned in this thread so far is easy. I someti...
seedy ticket booth pozpig
  04/18/16
So explain the answer to my question if it's so easy. Note,...
citrine windowlicker
  04/18/16
As I understand it, it's because you are abbreviating "...
seedy ticket booth pozpig
  04/18/16
But that rationale doesn't hold up in all cases (e.g., "...
citrine windowlicker
  04/18/16
lay/lie -- like Iron Monkey's poast and the who/whom raised ...
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
Got it. Thanks. And laid is the past tense of both?
seedy ticket booth pozpig
  04/18/16
lay past tense: laid lie past tense: lied
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
"I lied on the bed"? Yeah I think that's when i f...
seedy ticket booth pozpig
  04/18/16
it's not intuitive, but just remember: IF direct object THEN...
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
for some reason the third person conjugation of lie sounds f...
seedy ticket booth pozpig
  04/18/16
np
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
This is what really makes it confusing for people: http:/...
Electric public bath
  04/18/16
the past tense of "to lie" = "lay"? what...
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
It comes as a shock to many.
Electric public bath
  04/19/16
Pronouns
rambunctious goyim chapel
  04/18/16
they're just professional nouns, bro
very tactful multi-colored quadroon
  04/18/16
ProNoun: Me
citrine windowlicker
  04/18/16
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rambunctious goyim chapel
  04/18/16
"rike a" vs. "rike"
Heady deep home haunted graveyard
  04/18/16
Lay, laid, lied in terms of lay in the sun
Arousing field
  04/18/16
yeah I have to look this one up occasionally
cyan thriller lodge
  04/18/16
You're conflating two different conjugations. Laid and lied ...
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
Not a difficult concept, but it pisses me off that you have ...
Canary irradiated corn cake
  04/18/16
I believe you "should be" cases are how it's done ...
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
I think so too. It's better.
Canary irradiated corn cake
  04/18/16
Legitimate Q: then how to punctuate the following sentence? ...
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
what you wrote is right, but in a perfect world it should be...
Canary irradiated corn cake
  04/18/16
*vomit*
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
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buff stage
  04/18/16
Lol I hate this.
purple balding theatre incel
  04/18/16
You apparently don't like interior punctuation at the end of...
Electric public bath
  04/19/16
i still have to think sometimes about "him and I" ...
Stimulating location patrolman
  04/18/16
doobs you make me so rock hard when i see the word erotic in...
low-t bateful mad-dog skullcap wrinkle
  04/18/16
Period placement. Does it come at the end of the sentence or...
lime regret
  04/18/16
what
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
Right after the last letter since you need to save hard driv...
flickering concupiscible telephone shrine
  04/18/16
correctly conjugating hypotheticals that take place in the p...
Curious feces office
  04/18/16
Had I have been conjugating vs Had I had conjugated vs would...
galvanic sepia step-uncle's house
  04/18/16
I would have had to have had...
Curious feces office
  04/18/16
after spending a lot of time on this bort, I find it difficu...
Mentally impaired ceo trailer park
  04/18/16
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alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
Same with ARE and OUR.
galvanic sepia step-uncle's house
  04/18/16
law has made it excruciatingly difficult to ever write or sa...
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
REMINDER: ending a sentence with a preposition is not gramma...
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
serious are you?
Mentally impaired ceo trailer park
  04/18/16
Yes, not flame. The ostensible issue with dangling prepos...
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
Fascinating article about the evolution of English that I ca...
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
"serious are you?" Dead serious.
Electric public bath
  04/18/16
Only because some XVI century XOers decided it was not prest...
galvanic sepia step-uncle's house
  04/18/16
I'm not quite sure that's it. Seems more likely, following ...
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/18/16
IMO, strictly speaking, you aren't ending the sentence with ...
Vengeful mischievous menage ape
  04/18/16
"an" and "a" For example, if the next...
confused disrespectful crotch
  04/18/16
MOAR
alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace
  04/20/16


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Date: April 18th, 2016 11:42 AM
Author: lemon gaped corner



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Date: April 18th, 2016 11:44 AM
Author: boyish mewling double fault

who/whom

whom just sounds too formal to use 99% of the time idk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30296757)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 11:49 AM
Author: amber big people who are hurt parlor

I know which is correct 100% of the time, but it's usually just too pretentious to use correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30296777)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 11:51 AM
Author: lemon gaped corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30296790)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:19 PM
Author: flickering concupiscible telephone shrine

I use who/m AND the subjunctive when speaking. Its how women know I am intelligent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298548)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 11:18 PM
Author: Cheese-eating newt fat ankles



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Date: April 18th, 2016 11:44 AM
Author: Cowardly Bisexual Idea He Suggested Locale

shut up doobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30296759)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 11:50 AM
Author: odious learning disabled dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30296780)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 11:44 AM
Author: Harsh Institution

Comma placement. Because there are so many conflicting "authoritative" prescriptions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30296760)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 11:45 AM
Author: lemon gaped corner

EXPLAIN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30296762)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 11:45 AM
Author: Harsh Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30296764)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 11:46 AM
Author: lemon gaped corner

Are you going to EXPLAIN?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30296767)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:19 PM
Author: flickering concupiscible telephone shrine

No, not really.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298551)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 12:02 PM
Author: lemon gaped corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30296837)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 12:17 PM
Author: very tactful multi-colored quadroon

Who/whom is tricky, but it doesn't come up way too often

That/which is also tricky. I understand the rule and the principle behind the distinction, but sometimes it's still hard to be sure.

I never really know when to hyphenate compound adjectives. I always just Google the expression to see if it abould be hyphenated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30296901)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 2:39 PM
Author: lemon gaped corner

Purple people-eater (the thing that eats people is purple)

Purple-people eater (the thing eats people who are purple)

HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30297991)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 12:24 PM
Author: purple balding theatre incel

I really struggle with colons and semicolons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30296953)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:20 PM
Author: flickering concupiscible telephone shrine

A colon starts a list, a semicolon connects too closely related sentences.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298559)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:23 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

While a simple, easy rule for mouthbreathers, proper colon usage is not nearly this restrictive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298583)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:34 PM
Author: flickering concupiscible telephone shrine

In English, unless you are a professional writer, don't mess with colons except to start a list.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298653)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:45 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

The colon is used to separate two independent clauses when the second explains or illustrates the first. In such usage, the colon functions in much the same way as the semicolon. As with the semicolon, do not capitalize the first word after the colon unless the word is ordinarily capitalized.

>> I have very little time to learn the language: my new job starts in five weeks.

>> A college degree is still worth something: a recent survey revealed that college graduates earned roughly 60% more than those with only a high school diploma.

>> All three of their children are involved in the arts: Richard is a sculptor, Diane is a pianist, and Julie is a theatre director.

When two or more sentences follow a colon, capitalize the first word following the colon.

>> He made three points: First, the company was losing over a million dollars each month. Second, the stock price was lower than it had ever been. Third, no banks were willing to loan the company any more money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298739)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:55 PM
Author: nubile zippy doctorate national security agency

This.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299260)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 7:17 PM
Author: aggressive diverse resort



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:47 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

Colons can also be used for emphasis (arguably in lieu of an em-dash, but I think using an em-dash in the second example would be [sic]):

>> After three weeks of deliberation, the jury finally reached a verdict: guilty.

>> Five continents, three dozen countries, over a hundred cities: this was the trip of a lifetime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298752)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:55 PM
Author: nubile zippy doctorate national security agency

This.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299261)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:54 PM
Author: nubile zippy doctorate national security agency

lol cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299259)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 6:18 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299401)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 2:47 PM
Author: citrine windowlicker

I find the whole subject/object (e.g., "she" v. "her") usage when the verb is a form of "to be" is conceptually weird. When saying "It is she," why is "It" not the subject? Or are they both subjects with no object?

Obviously, nobody actually says "It is I" because it's too pretentious.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298044)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:14 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

It definitely is conceptually strange.

The way I learned the rule is simply to remember that linking verbs require using the same pronoun case whether the pronoun precedes or follows the verb.

E.g.:

NTCR: "It is her." & "Her is it."

versus

TCR: "It is she." & "She is it."

Re the subject/object questions you raised:

I don't think the formal rule for linking verbs is *really* an exception to the general rule, since I think it's remedied by considering pronoun cases in active versus passive constructions.

So in the example above, "she" is always the subject, and "it" is always the object; the passive construction just flips the order.

Linking verbs other than forms of "to be" include "to appear" and "to seem."

Definitely a good one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298524)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:25 PM
Author: flickering concupiscible telephone shrine

Because "to be" is not a transitive verb. No one is doing something to someone. e.g. in "It is she", It is not "ising" she. In a transitive verb, you have a subject and an object, in an intransitive verb you have a subject and a predicate. "It" actually is the subject, and "she" is the predicate. In English, predicates take the nominal (subject) case.

I say "It is I", because I'm not some mouth-breathing Ivy League hick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298596)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 2:48 PM
Author: seedy ticket booth pozpig

Everything mentioned in this thread so far is easy. I sometimes fuck up lay vs. lie vs. laid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298050)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 2:51 PM
Author: citrine windowlicker

So explain the answer to my question if it's so easy. Note, I understand "the rule." I just can't understand any sensible basis for the rule (which is never followed anyway).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298075)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 3:14 PM
Author: seedy ticket booth pozpig

As I understand it, it's because you are abbreviating "It is she [who did such and such]".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298226)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 3:17 PM
Author: citrine windowlicker

But that rationale doesn't hold up in all cases (e.g., "The winner is she [who is the winner]" is silly).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298238)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:21 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

lay/lie -- like Iron Monkey's poast and the who/whom raised above -- all boil down to subject versus object.

lay requires a direct object. lie doesn't. viz., you lie down on the sofa (no direct object), but you lay the book down on the table (the book is the direct object).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298565)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:53 PM
Author: seedy ticket booth pozpig

Got it. Thanks. And laid is the past tense of both?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298799)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:00 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

lay past tense: laid

lie past tense: lied

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298845)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:03 PM
Author: seedy ticket booth pozpig

"I lied on the bed"?

Yeah I think that's when i fuck it up, because that sounds totally off to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298870)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:11 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

it's not intuitive, but just remember: IF direct object THEN use conjugations of "to lay."

in sum:

no direct object: i lie on the bed; i lied on the bed.

w/ direct object: i lay the book on the bed; i laid the book on the bed.

the confusion re "i lied on the bed" stems, i think, from lie's homonym meaning deception.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298942)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:13 PM
Author: seedy ticket booth pozpig

for some reason the third person conjugation of lie sounds fine to me e.g., "it lied there", whereas "I lied there" sounds weird. Idk. But thanks for help

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298971)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:38 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

np

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299145)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 6:04 PM
Author: Electric public bath

This is what really makes it confusing for people:

http://i.imgur.com/I0JxjqE.gif

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299304)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 6:16 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

the past tense of "to lie" = "lay"? what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299389)



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Date: April 19th, 2016 8:05 AM
Author: Electric public bath

It comes as a shock to many.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30302644)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 3:12 PM
Author: rambunctious goyim chapel

Pronouns

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298205)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 3:13 PM
Author: very tactful multi-colored quadroon

they're just professional nouns, bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298214)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 3:14 PM
Author: citrine windowlicker

ProNoun: Me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298223)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:04 PM
Author: rambunctious goyim chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298889)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:15 PM
Author: Heady deep home haunted graveyard

"rike a" vs. "rike"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298530)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:20 PM
Author: Arousing field

Lay, laid, lied in terms of lay in the sun

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298554)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:20 PM
Author: cyan thriller lodge

yeah I have to look this one up occasionally

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298563)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:24 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

You're conflating two different conjugations. Laid and lied are past tense, while lay and lie are present tense.

Lay requires a direct object. Lie doesn't.

Viz., you lie down on the sofa (no direct object), but you lay the book down on the table (the book is the direct object).



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298591)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:20 PM
Author: Canary irradiated corn cake

Not a difficult concept, but it pisses me off that you have to place periods and commas inside quotation marks.

e.g.: She heard him say "I don't want any."

Should be: She heard him say "I don't want any".

e.g.: She heard him say "I don't want any," but he had some anyway.

Should be: She heard him say "I don't want any", but he had some anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298557)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:22 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

I believe you "should be" cases are how it's done in the U.K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298574)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:23 PM
Author: Canary irradiated corn cake

I think so too. It's better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298580)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:31 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

Legitimate Q: then how to punctuate the following sentence?

"I'm the new sheriff," he said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298630)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:36 PM
Author: Canary irradiated corn cake

what you wrote is right, but in a perfect world it should be

"I'm the new sheriff.", he said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298669)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:46 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

*vomit*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298743)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:17 PM
Author: buff stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299014)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 6:40 PM
Author: purple balding theatre incel

Lol I hate this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299551)



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Date: April 19th, 2016 8:10 AM
Author: Electric public bath

You apparently don't like interior punctuation at the end of quotations, but that's just an aesthetic preference -- just like the current rules.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30302659)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:21 PM
Author: Stimulating location patrolman

i still have to think sometimes about "him and I" vs "him and me"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298566)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:22 PM
Author: low-t bateful mad-dog skullcap wrinkle

doobs you make me so rock hard when i see the word erotic in your moniker you little cocktease

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298571)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:22 PM
Author: lime regret

Period placement. Does it come at the end of the sentence or should I do two periods or three spaces before the period?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298578)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:32 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298636)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:49 PM
Author: flickering concupiscible telephone shrine

Right after the last letter since you need to save hard drive space.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298762)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 4:55 PM
Author: Curious feces office

correctly conjugating hypotheticals that take place in the past can sound pretty ridiculous, because you end up with constructions like "had had" and so on. "if i were in a position to have had..." is actually wrong in a lot of cases; you'd actually need to write "if i had been in a position to have had..."

shit like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298817)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:21 PM
Author: galvanic sepia step-uncle's house

Had I have been conjugating vs Had I had conjugated vs would I have conjugated vs Would I have had conjugated is tricky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299057)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:38 PM
Author: Curious feces office

I would have had to have had...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299146)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:05 PM
Author: Mentally impaired ceo trailer park

after spending a lot of time on this bort, I find it difficult using YOURE vs YOUR in a sentence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298890)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:11 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298952)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:24 PM
Author: galvanic sepia step-uncle's house

Same with ARE and OUR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299076)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 6:17 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

law has made it excruciatingly difficult to ever write or say "statue" -- i always wanna throw in that third T.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299397)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:13 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

REMINDER: ending a sentence with a preposition is not grammatically incorrect in english.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30298976)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:17 PM
Author: Mentally impaired ceo trailer park

serious are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299016)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:53 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

Yes, not flame.

The ostensible issue with dangling prepositions is that they are #notOK in Latin, and hence the "romance languages" that evolved from Latin (Spanish, Portuguese, French, Italian, and Romanian) similarly eschew dangling prepositions.

But English isn't a romance language. The Anglo-Saxons brought their Germanic language(s), which was interbred with the Celts' language, but -- most importantly -- Old Norse had a profound impact on what would evolve into contemporary English. And Old Norse had no problem with dangling preposition.

(This, of course, puts to the side the (later) infusion of words from Latin and Romance languages -- but Old Norse changed the grammar.)

>> [The Vikings' Old Norse] also left their mark on English grammar. Blissfully, it is becoming rare to be taught that it is wrong to say Which town do you come from?, ending with the preposition instead of laboriously squeezing it before the wh-word to make From which town do you come? In English, sentences with ‘dangling prepositions’ are perfectly natural and clear and harm no one. Yet there is a wet-fish issue with them, too: normal languages don’t dangle prepositions in this way. Spanish speakers: note that El hombre quien yo llegué con (‘The man whom I came with’) feels about as natural as wearing your pants inside out. Every now and then a language turns out to allow this: one indigenous one in Mexico, another one in Liberia. But that’s it. Overall, it’s an oddity. Yet, wouldn’t you know, it’s one that Old Norse also happened to permit (and which Danish retains).

As if all this wasn’t enough, English got hit by a firehose spray of words from yet more languages

We can display all these bizarre Norse influences in a single sentence. Say That’s the man you walk in with, and it’s odd because 1) the has no specifically masculine form to match man, 2) there’s no ending on walk, and 3) you don’t say ‘in with whom you walk’. All that strangeness is because of what Scandinavian Vikings did to good old English back in the day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299245)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:58 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

Fascinating article about the evolution of English that I can't recommend highly enough: https://aeon.co/essays/why-is-english-so-weirdly-different-from-other-languages

Some highlights:

-- When saying ‘eeny, meeny, miny, moe’, have you ever felt like you were kind of counting? Well, you are – in Celtic numbers, chewed up over time but recognisably descended from the ones rural Britishers used when counting animals and playing games.

-- ‘Hickory, dickory, dock’ – what in the world do those words mean? Well, here’s a clue: hovera, dovera, dick were eight, nine and ten in that same Celtic counting list.

Later French and Latin infusions give English a variety of ways to express very similar ideas.

-- Triplets: One result was triplets allowing us to express ideas with varying degrees of formality. Help is English, aid is French, assist is Latin. Or, kingly is English, royal is French, regal is Latin – note how one imagines posture improving with each level: kingly sounds almost mocking, regal is straight-backed like a throne, royal is somewhere in the middle, a worthy but fallible monarch.

-- Doublets: Then there are doublets, less dramatic than triplets but fun nevertheless, such as the English/French pairs begin and commence, or want and desire. Especially noteworthy here are the culinary transformations: we kill a cow or a pig (English) to yield beef or pork (French). Why? Well, generally in Norman England, English-speaking labourers did the slaughtering for moneyed French speakers at table. The different ways of referring to meat depended on one’s place in the scheme of things, and those class distinctions have carried down to us in discreet form today.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299277)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 6:07 PM
Author: Electric public bath

"serious are you?"

Dead serious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299323)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 5:26 PM
Author: galvanic sepia step-uncle's house

Only because some XVI century XOers decided it was not prestigious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299084)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 6:14 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

I'm not quite sure that's it. Seems more likely, following english's infusion of latin and french words, the romance languagers tried forcing english-speakers to conform to latin/romance grammar. But just cuz English adopted a lot of latin and romance words isn't really a justification for making a germanic-, celtic-, and old norse-derived language follow their grammatical rules.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299370)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 6:46 PM
Author: Vengeful mischievous menage ape

IMO, strictly speaking, you aren't ending the sentence with a preposition, but a verb.

In the Churchill example, the verb is "to put up with." This is one complete and contained "verbal" idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30299575)



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Date: April 18th, 2016 11:49 PM
Author: confused disrespectful crotch

"an" and "a"

For example, if the next word begins with an vowel (e.g., "apple," "orange"), you use the "an" right before it. Rule can be tricky when talking in real time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30301616)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 8:35 PM
Author: alcoholic bearded meetinghouse electric furnace

MOAR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3198765&forum_id=2#30314357)