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Literary Agent I Queried Just Requested My Novel's Full Manuscript

YNY!!!!
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
great use of Title Case there
Vivacious casino boistinker
  04/20/16
I hate SSM's use of ALL CAPS in his every thread but I feel ...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
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stubborn pervert temple
  04/20/16
And I don't think it's proper title case -- "my" s...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
Congrats bro! Better start writing lmao
drab stage
  04/20/16
The manuscript is finished. But ty for the congrats.
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
Yeah I know man I'm just joshin' :)
drab stage
  04/20/16
Haha 180. I keep picking at it and revising this and that...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
What is it about?
Beady-eyed range psychic
  04/20/16
If I explained and it ends up getting published, then I'll b...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
You are such a pussy faggot. I hate posts like these.
Racy Alcoholic Mediation
  04/21/16
Drink bleach. I don't want to be outed here if it gets publi...
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
you're being a woman. there is NO plausible scenario of you ...
Racy Alcoholic Mediation
  04/21/16
See below. The major themes are the toxicity of social media...
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
Thanks.
Racy Alcoholic Mediation
  04/21/16
np
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
The part where "Dr. Malford" finds the neighborhoo...
Sienna self-centered university
  04/21/16
Thanks dude. Still a long ways to go, but feeling optimistic...
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
"Heck Room". Sounds like Kasich's mancave.
Bonkers menage giraffe
  04/21/16
I'll tell ya what, that dadgum ginger kid found himself in a...
drab stage
  04/21/16
what were they working on before this? a partial manuscript?
orange irradiated home azn
  04/20/16
I think usually you just send a few chapters
saffron concupiscible main people feces
  04/20/16
The process is sending a query letter -- basically a cover l...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
How long is the excerpt? What can an agent get out of a cove...
saffron concupiscible main people feces
  04/20/16
Excerpt length varies by agent. Some don't want any; some wa...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
oh tahts it? what are you so happy about, you are just on st...
Marvelous carmine step-uncle's house
  04/20/16
It's my first full manuscript request, though I haven't been...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
what kind of realistic aspirations do you have, money wise a...
Marvelous carmine step-uncle's house
  04/20/16
I am relocating from the major city I've lived in for the pa...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
I realize I didn't really answer your questions. The nov...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
good things are coming your way, no doubt. glad you got off ...
Marvelous carmine step-uncle's house
  04/20/16
thanks man, that means a lot to me, not flame. thrilled t...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
was sure this was going to be an RSF thread
copper aphrodisiac institution
  04/20/16
last time i checked he was working on pitching some televisi...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
Just got off a call regarding that. Looking possible. With t...
ruby comical shrine wagecucks
  04/20/16
It's definitely a hassle, and the mountains of form letter r...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
genre?
Aromatic nofapping reading party
  04/20/16
Cq
Multi-colored magenta resort travel guidebook
  04/20/16
literary fiction
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
181! were you invited to send a query the first time? or ...
Cerebral locus
  04/20/16
straight up cold-calling
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
how long did it take you to write it? what possessed you to ...
Marvelous carmine step-uncle's house
  04/20/16
I have always read literary fiction voraciously, but never c...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
Congrats and ty for the info. I came up w/ an idea I'm slowl...
buck-toothed double fault nowag
  04/20/16
Thank you! I am more than happy to discuss more of the ...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
Yeah my plan is to flesh out the major plot points/arc, char...
buck-toothed double fault nowag
  04/20/16
My one piece of advice: buy a moleskin or something similar ...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
Thanks. For now I'm just using Notes on my phone and text fi...
buck-toothed double fault nowag
  04/20/16
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jade contagious area
  04/20/16
How much content was ripped from XOXO? Surely, you've dr...
Yellow french pit
  04/21/16
No significant amount of content was ripped from xo. But ...
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
180
Yellow french pit
  04/21/16
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jade contagious area
  04/21/16
Here's a short excerpt (lightly modified/masked) that I thin...
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
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jade contagious area
  04/21/16
180 scholarship
Yellow french pit
  04/21/16
ty
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
Other xo-isms: - "FMA" appears at least once ...
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
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jade contagious area
  04/21/16
Where's our XO digest motherfucker
lascivious bbw
  04/20/16
Shit is time consuming, dawg. I probably wouldn't have s...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
there is nothing wrong with hating on NM. his space stuff is...
Marvelous carmine step-uncle's house
  04/20/16
cq. he's a faggot.
Arrogant charcoal ratface
  04/20/16
shut the fuck up you subhuman piece of garbage
Shaky property idea he suggested
  04/21/16
I meant more like the wasteland threads of people bitching a...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
>>More will be forthcoming -- I do promise you that --...
Arrogant charcoal ratface
  04/20/16
Gaped
Multi-colored magenta resort travel guidebook
  04/20/16
I've never called it a newsletter. It's always been a di...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
fair enough. if it's going to be a "digest," rathe...
Arrogant charcoal ratface
  04/20/16
If you want to see your megathreads prominently featured on ...
jade contagious area
  04/20/16
u did a good job with it. i was surprised someone even put t...
Marvelous carmine step-uncle's house
  04/21/16
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jade contagious area
  04/21/16
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jade contagious area
  04/20/16
This is a good sign, but you aren't there yet; don't stop qu...
bat-shit-crazy cruise ship
  04/21/16
Roger that: sent another six queries today after receiving t...
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
Nice!
bat-shit-crazy cruise ship
  04/21/16
literary fiction is poison for the soul
razzle-dazzle windowlicker
  04/21/16
i couldn't disagree more.
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
A big part of serious fiction’s purpose is to give the reade...
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
What you wrote was very insightful. And explained much.
Navy sandwich
  04/21/16
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jade contagious area
  04/21/16
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diverse international law enforcement agency library
  04/21/16
this is 50% correct.
Walnut jew
  04/21/16
Pls expound.
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
actually i read your post again and i think i agree. i thoug...
Walnut jew
  04/21/16
180 Scholarship.
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
you seem like a bright and decent guy. why do you trash azns...
Walnut jew
  04/21/16
I'm not actually racist against Asians at all. But uvt and n...
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
if RSF were azn he would receive 20X the shit he gets on her...
Walnut jew
  04/21/16
I'm not sure that's totally true. Most of the love for him i...
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
Do you mean that half of what is stated is false, or that wh...
diverse international law enforcement agency library
  04/21/16
the latter
Walnut jew
  04/21/16
Object oriented programming enables something called inherit...
diverse international law enforcement agency library
  04/21/16
well, that, and i don't think 'serious fiction' accomplishes...
Walnut jew
  04/21/16
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jade contagious area
  04/21/16
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jade contagious area
  04/21/16
*bboom enters this thread and is entirely coherent, almost c...
Swollen Piazza Foreskin
  04/21/16
irl lol'd
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
Gubmint by the plutocrats for the plutocrats is a major them...
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
recommend novels exploring the latter point tyia
dashing brindle queen of the night orchestra pit
  04/21/16
Alas, there aren't many (yet), as far as I know. Millennial...
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
Where you are starting to see the digital age as a premise i...
jade contagious area
  04/21/16
180million friend
Histrionic Overrated Selfie
  04/21/16
ty friend
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Date: April 20th, 2016 6:33 PM
Author: jade contagious area

YNY!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313517)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 6:33 PM
Author: Vivacious casino boistinker

great use of Title Case there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313521)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 6:34 PM
Author: jade contagious area

I hate SSM's use of ALL CAPS in his every thread but I feel like lower case thread titles are often glazed over.

So capitalizing the first letter of each word seems to me like a happy medium.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313529)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 6:39 PM
Author: stubborn pervert temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313560)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 6:38 PM
Author: jade contagious area

And I don't think it's proper title case -- "my" shouldn't have a capital M.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313550)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 6:39 PM
Author: drab stage

Congrats bro! Better start writing lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313561)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 6:40 PM
Author: jade contagious area

The manuscript is finished. But ty for the congrats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313562)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 6:40 PM
Author: drab stage

Yeah I know man I'm just joshin' :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313565)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 6:41 PM
Author: jade contagious area

Haha 180.

I keep picking at it and revising this and that tiny shit so it's a relief to finally be forced to send it and stop fussing over it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313575)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 6:46 PM
Author: Beady-eyed range psychic

What is it about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313611)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:01 PM
Author: jade contagious area

If I explained and it ends up getting published, then I'll be forced to retire.

Though I will likely be outed one way or another if it gets published.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313702)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 2:41 AM
Author: Racy Alcoholic Mediation

You are such a pussy faggot. I hate posts like these.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30316562)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 8:49 AM
Author: jade contagious area

Drink bleach. I don't want to be outed here if it gets published. That's not being a pussy faggot; that's being reasonable and prudent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317251)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 12:37 PM
Author: Racy Alcoholic Mediation

you're being a woman. there is NO plausible scenario of you getting OUTED because you gave the genre of your shitbook.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30318619)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 12:44 PM
Author: jade contagious area

See below. The major themes are the toxicity of social media, federal government corruption, and a domestic anti-technology/automation terrorist cell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30318655)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:41 PM
Author: Racy Alcoholic Mediation

Thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30319075)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:58 PM
Author: jade contagious area

np

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30319229)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 7:12 AM
Author: Sienna self-centered university

The part where "Dr. Malford" finds the neighborhood boy that goes by the nickname "Hoobs" and lures him into his basement "heck room" will probably give it away.

Seriously though, congrats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30316953)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 8:50 AM
Author: jade contagious area

Thanks dude. Still a long ways to go, but feeling optimistic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317252)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 11:29 AM
Author: Bonkers menage giraffe

"Heck Room". Sounds like Kasich's mancave.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30318107)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 2:22 PM
Author: drab stage

I'll tell ya what, that dadgum ginger kid found himself in a dilly of a pickle in my new heck room, hoo boy!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30319387)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 6:46 PM
Author: orange irradiated home azn

what were they working on before this? a partial manuscript?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313614)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 6:50 PM
Author: saffron concupiscible main people feces

I think usually you just send a few chapters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313640)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 6:59 PM
Author: jade contagious area

The process is sending a query letter -- basically a cover letter -- w/ an introductory excerpt.

If interested, an agent will ask for the full manuscript.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313688)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:03 PM
Author: saffron concupiscible main people feces

How long is the excerpt? What can an agent get out of a cover letter if you are writing something literary and not plot driven garbage?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313715)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:13 PM
Author: jade contagious area

Excerpt length varies by agent. Some don't want any; some want the first 5 pages; some want the first 25 or 30 pages; some want the first "chapter"; but 50 pages is the max.

The query letter is like 75% discussion of what the novel is about and 25% biography. I agree -- it's a farce to make a decision without seeing any or a very nominal portion of the work.

Mainly, I think it's a product of the number of submissions they receive and the amount of time they have to review. Between the letter's synopsis and the first, say 25 or 30 pages, agents, I guess, think they are able to decide what warrants a full read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313803)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:04 PM
Author: Marvelous carmine step-uncle's house

oh tahts it? what are you so happy about, you are just on step 2 of a many step process, which may or may not lead to anything. dont get your hopes up.

but, on the other hand, congrats on writing a novel. im sure its good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313723)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:17 PM
Author: jade contagious area

It's my first full manuscript request, though I haven't been querying for long.

The excerpt I sent was a full 50 pages, and representation following a full request has a much higher probability than receiving a full request following a query and excerpt submission.

Still got a long way to go, but I'm excited nonetheless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313830)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:21 PM
Author: Marvelous carmine step-uncle's house

what kind of realistic aspirations do you have, money wise and fame wise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313876)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:30 PM
Author: jade contagious area

I am relocating from the major city I've lived in for the past decade this summer to a small town close (but not too close) to my wife's family. My wife got an unbelievably lucrative job there. I'm stuck here a little bit longer, finishing out the job I got after I took the July 2015 bar exam, but I'll join her only a few weeks after she starts.

Given the absurdly low cost of living, my lack of law school debt and biglaw savings, and my wife's new job's salary, I intend to take my sweet time finding a job that doesn't make me wanna kill myself like biglaw did.

Ideally, I'd continue being able to write creatively, looking at doing some adjunct teaching work at a nearby university, doing contract legal work for the handful of firms in town (research & brief/motions drafting, ideally, and perhaps try to pick up some other freelance writing assignments.

We'll see. I'm not exactly in a rush to get back to working at a law firm. Writing brings me unrivaled joy, while billing my time and watching Mort Kikenstein eviscerate my beautiful cert petition felt like death in life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313958)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:48 PM
Author: jade contagious area

I realize I didn't really answer your questions.

The novel is not upmarket fiction, or something. I'm not aspiring to be the next John Grisham or something. Fully aware the pay is exceedingly likely to be meager.

It's not a particularly easy read. It's not like it's on par, difficulty-wise, with something like Gravity's Rainbow, but it's long and requires some effort by the reader to put the pieces together and understand how everything fits together.

My (unrealistic) hope is that it's well-received, brings in some somewhat meager earnings, and -- most importantly -- opens doors to additional literary success.

I don't really crave fame, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't want people to read me, respect my writing, enjoy it, and appreciate it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314091)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:50 PM
Author: Marvelous carmine step-uncle's house

good things are coming your way, no doubt. glad you got off the treadmill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314099)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:54 PM
Author: jade contagious area

thanks man, that means a lot to me, not flame.

thrilled to be out of the rat race and pursuing something that brings me joy. life's too short, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314129)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 6:47 PM
Author: copper aphrodisiac institution

was sure this was going to be an RSF thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313620)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:00 PM
Author: jade contagious area

last time i checked he was working on pitching some television show

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313691)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:43 PM
Author: ruby comical shrine wagecucks

Just got off a call regarding that. Looking possible. With the novel, it got as far as an agent at ICM who read it and met with me and wanted me to make changes I didn't want to make as a condition, so I let it stagnate. A few months ago I sent it to a creative writing prof who hooked me up with a friend who is an editor and is currently editing it for me. After that i'll bring it back around some agents and see. Good luck, sending query letters is annoying as fuckkkkkk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314059)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:49 PM
Author: jade contagious area

It's definitely a hassle, and the mountains of form letter rejections are naturally dispiriting. But in the end, a million NOs don't matter if you get one YES.

Similar to you, I have a contact in editorial at a major publishing house who read most of it (before I'd finished it), and he all but assured me that it's worthy of publication. So that made me feel really positive since he's not a friend or anything -- someone I was connected with through someone else -- and it seemed like he was giving it to me straight, not just blowing smoke up my ass, worried about hurting my feelings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314097)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:04 PM
Author: Aromatic nofapping reading party

genre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313719)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:05 PM
Author: Multi-colored magenta resort travel guidebook

Cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313727)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:08 PM
Author: jade contagious area

literary fiction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313757)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:05 PM
Author: Cerebral locus

181!

were you invited to send a query the first time? or is it sort of like cold-calling?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313728)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:08 PM
Author: jade contagious area

straight up cold-calling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313759)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:09 PM
Author: Marvelous carmine step-uncle's house

how long did it take you to write it? what possessed you to even start? what are some of your inspirations?

i dream of doing this. you are living my dream.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313765)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:22 PM
Author: jade contagious area

I have always read literary fiction voraciously, but never considered myself a creative type, able to actually write fiction instead of just reading/enjoying it.

But after this SCOTUS cert petition I wrote for biglaw -- which was legitimately 180 -- got completed eviscerated by a pair of boomer partners who made it an absolute fucking disaster, I started doing creative free writing when I had down time at work.

The primary characters and premise sorta walked into my head on May 12, 2015 and I wrote thousands of words every day until I quit biglaw in early June in order to study for a different state's bar exam.

I continued to write in fits and spurts, and completed it in mid-March 2016.

It's too long and needs to be cut down. But I did manage to keep it under 125k words, which was the goal I set for myself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313886)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:28 PM
Author: buck-toothed double fault nowag

Congrats and ty for the info. I came up w/ an idea I'm slowly working out and may try to write a novel myself over the next year. It's 180 to see that you were able to do this in your spare time and see it through to the end. Fingers crossed for you!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313941)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:36 PM
Author: jade contagious area

Thank you!

I am more than happy to discuss more of the nitty gritty about the entire process.

For me, identifying the major plot threads / characters / premise was the biggest hurdle. Once I managed to get a handle on those, the actual drafting came very, very easily.

Good luck to you too!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314011)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:38 PM
Author: buck-toothed double fault nowag

Yeah my plan is to flesh out the major plot points/arc, character backgrounds, etc, and write that all out. Then I'll go back and fill in imagery, locations, and just generally make it more descriptive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314025)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:42 PM
Author: jade contagious area

My one piece of advice: buy a moleskin or something similar and keep it on you whenever possible. I dated the pages, so I can go back and know exactly when I worked on what and such. So often a great idea can be so fleeting. Having all that data (with dates) is a total godsend when it comes to outlining passages before drafting them and/or adding additional details to previously drafted passages as the details come to you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314050)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:44 PM
Author: buck-toothed double fault nowag

Thanks. For now I'm just using Notes on my phone and text files for brainstorming. You give me hope! Good luck!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314071)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:56 PM
Author: jade contagious area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314135)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:09 AM
Author: Yellow french pit

How much content was ripped from XOXO?

Surely, you've drawn at least a little inspiration from ARE greatbort?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30316370)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:24 AM
Author: jade contagious area

No significant amount of content was ripped from xo.

But there are a handful of passing references that any xoers who read it will appreciate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30316446)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:26 AM
Author: Yellow french pit

180



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30316455)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:27 AM
Author: jade contagious area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30316459)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 8:38 AM
Author: jade contagious area

Here's a short excerpt (lightly modified/masked) that I think xo will dig.

The Ben Franklin University was formerly known as The James Madison University. The school’s redubbing occurred in 2019, at the zenith of the (mostly collegiate) hard-left’s protracted war against free speech, a robust marketplace of ideas, and any/all twenty-first century references to historical figures who could even tangentially be tied to anything inconsistent with the then-chic version of normative morality.

Given that James Madison—the human and fourth POTUS—owned slaves, the proponents of safe spaces and trigger warnings took aim at JMU in 2017. Their tactics and the entrenchment of their campaign was so vehement and unceasing that JMU's application and matriculation numbers plummeted something serious, which all but forced the school’s administrators to acquiesce and negotiate.

Because Benjamin Franklin was also a Founding Father and he was not a slave-owner, the safe spacers and the oft-triggered similarly acquiesced from their initial demand to rename the school “Trayvon Martin University.”

In the end, no one was happy, but such is the nature of compromise—or something like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317212)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 8:54 AM
Author: jade contagious area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317267)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 9:50 AM
Author: Yellow french pit

180 scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317512)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 10:12 AM
Author: jade contagious area

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317636)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 9:49 AM
Author: jade contagious area

Other xo-isms:

- "FMA" appears at least once

- "Chad Thundercock" explicitly referenced (and yes I'm aware that's not a true xo original

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317507)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 10:57 AM
Author: jade contagious area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317913)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:30 PM
Author: lascivious bbw

Where's our XO digest motherfucker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313957)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:34 PM
Author: jade contagious area

Shit is time consuming, dawg.

I probably wouldn't have started it if I'd know I'd constantly be harassed about it.

It's much more fun, imo, when they pop out of the blue instead of forcing a weekly edition weak on content.

More will be forthcoming -- I do promise you that -- but when the entire "Top Threads of the Week" are DBG threads hating on NM and 300+ PDDJ threads, it's hardly inspiring.

Less frequent, higher quality -- that's my current approach.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30313989)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:52 PM
Author: Marvelous carmine step-uncle's house

there is nothing wrong with hating on NM. his space stuff is way out of wack with this place. he is very creative sometimes, but what the fuck is all that space shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314114)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:55 PM
Author: Arrogant charcoal ratface

cq. he's a faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314131)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:22 PM
Author: Shaky property idea he suggested

shut the fuck up you subhuman piece of garbage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30318896)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 8:01 PM
Author: jade contagious area

I meant more like the wasteland threads of people bitching and defending him.

I don't see this place as unipolar -- it'd be a lot less interesting if there weren't a lot of different niches and ways to poast.

He enjoys poasting his sci fi writing -- overwhelmingly in his own threads -- and never fucks with, flames, or puts down anyone else.

Personally, I enjoy his poasting. Just cuz it's not for everyone (read: mainly DBG) doesn't mean it's devoid of value.

I have a shit ton of flash fiction that I'd like to poast and share but don't really want DBG attacking me constantly for doing so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314173)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 7:56 PM
Author: Arrogant charcoal ratface

>>More will be forthcoming -- I do promise you that -- but when the entire "Top Threads of the Week" are DBG threads hating on NM and 300+ PDDJ threads, it's hardly inspiring.

it's supposed to be a NEWSletter. isn't it your job to report on the news, not what content you find personally inspiring?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314137)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 8:02 PM
Author: Multi-colored magenta resort travel guidebook

Gaped

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314184)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 8:12 PM
Author: jade contagious area

I've never called it a newsletter.

It's always been a digest. And while that is indeed a periodical, the time and effort required to prepare a document full of mind-numbing content is not enjoyable, fun, or the way I'd like to spend multiple hours a week.

If poasters want the megathread news, we already have a feature for that.

But I firmly believe that shitty content on a rigid schedule won't keep people interested for long.

So I stand by what I wrote earlier -- higher quality content that comes as a surprise. Call it whatever you want.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314244)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 8:20 PM
Author: Arrogant charcoal ratface

fair enough. if it's going to be a "digest," rather than a newsletter, xo shall judge to see if we like the content.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314294)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 8:17 PM
Author: jade contagious area

If you want to see your megathreads prominently featured on a rigid weekly schedule, by all means -- find someone else to put it together.

My take is that there is a lot of high-quality content poasted here that's lost amid the megathreads. I'd like to put together documents that strike a balance between major trends and call attention to underrated quality poasting.

The hostility over this shit hardly makes me want to spend my free time contributing. Fuckin everyone's a critic. It's no wonder no one else does it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30314278)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:34 AM
Author: Marvelous carmine step-uncle's house

u did a good job with it. i was surprised someone even put the work in voluntarily to give it to us. and im not surprised you have decided to tone it down or even stop. plus, it wasnt even being fully appreciated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30316480)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 7:43 AM
Author: jade contagious area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317034)



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Date: April 20th, 2016 11:13 PM
Author: jade contagious area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30315701)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 12:05 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy cruise ship

This is a good sign, but you aren't there yet; don't stop querying until you've signed with someone (I wasted years doing this)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30316027)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 12:06 AM
Author: jade contagious area

Roger that: sent another six queries today after receiving the full manuscript request.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30316037)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 12:25 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy cruise ship

Nice!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30316132)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 8:21 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle windowlicker

literary fiction is poison for the soul

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317177)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 8:34 AM
Author: jade contagious area

i couldn't disagree more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317204)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 8:39 AM
Author: jade contagious area

A big part of serious fiction’s purpose is to give the reader, who like all of us is sort of marooned in her own skull, to give her imaginative access to other selves. Since an ineluctable part of being a human self is suffering, part of what we humans come to art for is an experience of suffering, necessarily a vicarious experience, more like a sort of “generalization” of suffering. We all suffer alone in the real world; true empathy’s impossible. But if a piece of fiction can allow us imaginatively to identify with a character’s pain, we might then also more easily conceive of others identifying with our own. This is nourishing, redemptive; we become less alone inside.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317215)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 8:52 AM
Author: Navy sandwich

What you wrote was very insightful. And explained much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317261)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 8:54 AM
Author: jade contagious area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317265)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:35 PM
Author: diverse international law enforcement agency library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30319018)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 12:35 PM
Author: Walnut jew

this is 50% correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30318608)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 12:36 PM
Author: jade contagious area

Pls expound.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30318612)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 12:51 PM
Author: Walnut jew

actually i read your post again and i think i agree. i thought you were saying fiction's purpose is essentially palliative: to help the reader feel less alone in the world. i wanted to say it's more than that, that the highest aspiration of storytelling is in fact therapeutic. not only to momentarily bring relief to private wounds but to help us process and heal them. to restore us to ourselves. to inspire us to continue on our true journey, to not lapse into a trance on a magical island.

in college i was assigned an essay by john gardner on the moral purpose of fiction that argued more or less this premise. i didn't quite understand it then, but i think i get it now.

modern fiction has become unmoored from this important calling, to the point where i can't remember the last time a work of fiction met this need. movies, tv, memoirs, documentaries, biographies, articles, non-fiction books have all done so much a better job of helping me relate to the suffering of others and imbue my life with inspiration and greater compassion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30318693)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 12:54 PM
Author: jade contagious area

180 Scholarship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30318706)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:01 PM
Author: Walnut jew

you seem like a bright and decent guy. why do you trash azns so much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30318743)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:57 PM
Author: jade contagious area

I'm not actually racist against Asians at all. But uvt and nyuug are bottom-two poasters and its admittedly difficult to constrain my vehement dislike of them. Sorry dude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30319217)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 2:02 PM
Author: Walnut jew

if RSF were azn he would receive 20X the shit he gets on here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30319267)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 2:18 PM
Author: jade contagious area

I'm not sure that's totally true. Most of the love for him is a product of his tinder conquests w photos and traveling trips. But, yes, I agree his incapacity for introspection would garner a lot more hate if he were Asian.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30319356)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:07 PM
Author: diverse international law enforcement agency library

Do you mean that half of what is stated is false, or that what is stated is only one half of a larger truth?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30318782)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:15 PM
Author: Walnut jew

the latter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30318827)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:35 PM
Author: diverse international law enforcement agency library

Object oriented programming enables something called inheritance so that any operations not anticipated at time of initial design can be readily incorporated later. When I saw your comment I reexamined ned's for logical inconsistencies, but detected only precise, hermetically sealed language. Then I concluded you must surely have meant that his comments could be recontextualized into some larger frame, and accordingly I wanted to sound you as to this conclusion. Cheers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30319008)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:40 PM
Author: Walnut jew

well, that, and i don't think 'serious fiction' accomplishes the stated task very well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30319068)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 2:18 PM
Author: jade contagious area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30319365)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 9:21 AM
Author: jade contagious area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317358)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 9:54 AM
Author: Swollen Piazza Foreskin

*bboom enters this thread and is entirely coherent, almost clairvoyant, congratulating u on "Making your dreams come true, friend!" before reverting to his usual operating system functions in other threads, seemingly unaware of what transpired ITT*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317534)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 10:13 AM
Author: jade contagious area

irl lol'd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30317641)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 11:52 AM
Author: jade contagious area

Gubmint by the plutocrats for the plutocrats is a major theme, as is the TOXICITY of social media.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30318298)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 12:02 PM
Author: dashing brindle queen of the night orchestra pit

recommend novels exploring the latter point tyia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30318369)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 12:26 PM
Author: jade contagious area

Alas, there aren't many (yet), as far as I know. Millennial novelists will be the ones equipped to provide insight on how the digital age has impacted the human condition.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30318556)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 12:58 PM
Author: jade contagious area

Where you are starting to see the digital age as a premise is in TV. For example, Mr. Robot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30318726)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:45 PM
Author: Histrionic Overrated Selfie

180million friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30319094)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 1:58 PM
Author: jade contagious area

ty friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30319227)



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Date: April 21st, 2016 6:19 PM
Author: jade contagious area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30320848)



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Date: April 22nd, 2016 1:13 AM
Author: jade contagious area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3201140&forum_id=2#30323568)