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Michigan 1L - first grade is in

Ks - B+ How is my life going to turn out now?
Mauve Deranged Area Cuckold
  01/17/06
You will succeed in all you do...in bed.
odious native
  01/17/06
looking at your moniker: farmer.
supple queen of the night institution
  01/17/06
What is the first letter of your last name? You can take it ...
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
last half of the alphabet, but i dont think it has any relev...
Mauve Deranged Area Cuckold
  01/17/06
How do you think they do it, by section?
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
in the order the profs turn in the grades. deadline isn't u...
Mauve Deranged Area Cuckold
  01/17/06
You probably wouldn't want to disclose the name of your prof...
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
White. Sorry, but I had other things to do.
Mauve Deranged Area Cuckold
  01/17/06
There's a whole argument going on here now. Some people seem...
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
thanks, but i don't think that congratulations are in order....
Mauve Deranged Area Cuckold
  01/17/06
Thanks
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
A B+ is a fine start. If you managed to get all B+s, you'd f...
Mahogany sound barrier
  01/17/06
Exactly. OP, I knew people with sub-3.0s who got $125K NYC ...
Racy gaming laptop
  01/17/06
You gonna answer, you fucking dimwit?
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
I think you need to chill.
Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter
  01/17/06
I think you need to fuck off
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
I think you need a prescription.
Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter
  01/17/06
I think you need to fuck off
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
i think you obviously don't know whom you are talking to
supple queen of the night institution
  01/17/06
No, 09whatever is obviously a stressed 1L who can't figure o...
Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter
  01/17/06
i agree with you. that being said, he also has no clue who ...
supple queen of the night institution
  01/17/06
Edit: did that shut you up?
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
cool. got a great start here with your lr application then....
supple queen of the night institution
  01/17/06
?
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
Do you lick people's asses much?
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
i, for one, don't need to. that might be the difference.
supple queen of the night institution
  01/17/06
"i agree with you. that being said, he also has no clue...
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
get a life. or better yet, at least a jd. then we can talk...
supple queen of the night institution
  01/17/06
Alright guv'nor, I'll get right to it then.
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
cool.
supple queen of the night institution
  01/17/06
Just to let you know: First, I will not have any input in...
Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter
  01/17/06
You sound reasonable. I should probably tell you that I was ...
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
Yeah, it's just that this is the time of year when you have ...
Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter
  01/17/06
So that would make you the touchy one, since you're the one ...
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
Noooo.... That would mean that there are probably a score m...
Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter
  01/17/06
Actually, your tone came across very well in that second par...
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
I'm not sure how someone was supposed to interpret "You...
Racy gaming laptop
  01/17/06
'Inherently friendly' is a little too extreme.
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
"she" was obviously kidding, can't you read or som...
supple queen of the night institution
  01/17/06
yeah, i'm knee-deep in it
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
uhm, good for you, i guess. i meant the ghost.
supple queen of the night institution
  01/17/06
Actually, no. I finished up at NYU because my SO started wo...
Racy gaming laptop
  01/17/06
Speaking of Jessup, have I ever congratulated you on your gr...
Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter
  01/17/06
No, we were supposed to celebrate in person, but I had to fi...
Racy gaming laptop
  01/17/06
you are of course perfectly right about 1-3. but i am not...
supple queen of the night institution
  01/17/06
I wouldn't judge anyone by what they said or did in the angs...
Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter
  01/17/06
Oh, the sexism!
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
Are you a girl?
Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter
  01/17/06
Hopefully, that's what I've been told all my life.
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
idbawys.
supple queen of the night institution
  01/17/06
Hmm. I just don't think of numbers that have 17^2 as factor...
Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter
  01/17/06
lol
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
It is not exactly blind. The writing component is blind, but...
Soul-stirring pozpig
  01/19/06
Enh. There's no reason anyone should defer to me and I don'...
Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter
  01/17/06
I think that your method of going in with all guns blazing i...
Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter
  01/17/06
You know, you're right. I see the light now.
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
This seems to be the correct impression.
Racy gaming laptop
  01/17/06
There's upside to all this - I love to see Mich students sti...
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
That's true, although I guess I'm an ex-student at this poin...
Racy gaming laptop
  01/17/06
Actually, that's even better.
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
"I think you need to chill." You're colluding t...
brass sex offender parlour
  01/31/06
bump
Snowy kitchen marketing idea
  01/17/06
You will work for a large V100 NYC firm, before becoming mis...
irradiated casino generalized bond
  01/17/06
Be pleased. You're above average.
Plum useless brakes
  01/17/06
There are people who got a B+ as their first grade who got t...
Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter
  01/17/06
ok
Plum useless brakes
  01/17/06
3 bedroom house in the suburbs. 2 kids. White Acura. Golden ...
Bateful boltzmann degenerate
  01/18/06
I see an Audi instead...
Federal drunken indirect expression doctorate
  01/18/06
No, B+ in Contracts means a Lexus.
Soul-stirring pozpig
  01/19/06


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Date: January 17th, 2006 4:05 PM
Author: Mauve Deranged Area Cuckold

Ks - B+

How is my life going to turn out now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4840971)





Date: January 17th, 2006 4:38 PM
Author: odious native

You will succeed in all you do...in bed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841224)





Date: January 17th, 2006 4:39 PM
Author: supple queen of the night institution

looking at your moniker: farmer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841234)





Date: January 17th, 2006 4:43 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

What is the first letter of your last name? You can take it down after a second, I just want to see how far along they are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841252)





Date: January 17th, 2006 4:52 PM
Author: Mauve Deranged Area Cuckold

last half of the alphabet, but i dont think it has any relevance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841329)





Date: January 17th, 2006 4:53 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

How do you think they do it, by section?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841345)





Date: January 17th, 2006 4:54 PM
Author: Mauve Deranged Area Cuckold

in the order the profs turn in the grades. deadline isn't until the 25th.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841359)





Date: January 17th, 2006 4:55 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

You probably wouldn't want to disclose the name of your prof huh?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841371)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:17 PM
Author: Mauve Deranged Area Cuckold

White. Sorry, but I had other things to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841586)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:21 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

There's a whole argument going on here now. Some people seem to have taken me a little to seriously. Congratulations on the grade.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841630)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:24 PM
Author: Mauve Deranged Area Cuckold

thanks, but i don't think that congratulations are in order. good luck with your grades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841654)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:24 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

Thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841660)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:28 PM
Author: Mahogany sound barrier

A B+ is a fine start. If you managed to get all B+s, you'd find yourself in a very good spot employment prospect-wise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841684)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:30 PM
Author: Racy gaming laptop

Exactly. OP, I knew people with sub-3.0s who got $125K NYC BIGLAW jobs. So, don't sweat it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841703)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:02 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

You gonna answer, you fucking dimwit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841435)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:03 PM
Author: Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter

I think you need to chill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841443)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:04 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

I think you need to fuck off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841454)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:05 PM
Author: Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter

I think you need a prescription.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841463)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:05 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

I think you need to fuck off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841472)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:07 PM
Author: supple queen of the night institution

i think you obviously don't know whom you are talking to

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841482)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:08 PM
Author: Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter

No, 09whatever is obviously a stressed 1L who can't figure out that if he wants to know what grades have come out, he should talk to his friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841498)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:09 PM
Author: supple queen of the night institution

i agree with you. that being said, he also has no clue who you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841509)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:11 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

Edit: did that shut you up?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841528)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:14 PM
Author: supple queen of the night institution

cool. got a great start here with your lr application then.

edit: no, why would it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841554)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:15 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841564)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:15 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

Do you lick people's asses much?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841565)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:16 PM
Author: supple queen of the night institution

i, for one, don't need to. that might be the difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841574)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:17 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

"i agree with you. that being said, he also has no clue who you are."

Stupid shit just comes out of your mouth then?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841589)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:24 PM
Author: supple queen of the night institution

get a life. or better yet, at least a jd. then we can talk again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841653)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:27 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

Alright guv'nor, I'll get right to it then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841674)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:28 PM
Author: supple queen of the night institution

cool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841687)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:17 PM
Author: Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter

Just to let you know:

First, I will not have any input into LR admissions next year

Second, it's blind, blind, blind.

Third, he's anonymous.

Fourth, even if it weren't and even if I did and even if he weren't, I don't believe that the place for spite is when making an institutional decision with long-term repercussions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841580)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:20 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

You sound reasonable. I should probably tell you that I was kidding when I wrote to Bauer. But this seems moot now. Congratulations on the clerkship - it's actually pretty awesome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841613)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:22 PM
Author: Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter

Yeah, it's just that this is the time of year when you have to be pretty careful not to overset the turnip cart. Lots of people are touchy, and things that normally seem funny sometimes come off way differently right around now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841638)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:23 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

So that would make you the touchy one, since you're the one that misunderstood?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841647)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:30 PM
Author: Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter

Noooo.... That would mean that there are probably a score more 1Ls from Michigan reading this thread, and the chances of more than one of them being touchy are pretty high.

Tone doesn't come across well on the internet, and tone doesn't come across well when people are stressed. For the next few weeks, you will deal with people who are stressed. Everyone around you will appreciate it if you speak in a soft voice without using swear words when mentioning grades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841698)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:34 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

Actually, your tone came across very well in that second paragraph.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841738)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:37 PM
Author: Racy gaming laptop

I'm not sure how someone was supposed to interpret "You gonna answer, you fucking dimwit?" as an inherently friendly comment on a board renowned for its abusive nature.

Just a thought.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841763)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:39 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

'Inherently friendly' is a little too extreme.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841783)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:41 PM
Author: supple queen of the night institution

"she" was obviously kidding, can't you read or something?

off topic: are you involved w/ the jessup at all this year?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841810)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:43 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

yeah, i'm knee-deep in it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841828)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:45 PM
Author: supple queen of the night institution

uhm, good for you, i guess.

i meant the ghost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841846)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:50 PM
Author: Racy gaming laptop

Actually, no. I finished up at NYU because my SO started work out here. That pretty much precluded me from being involved. I hear it's a good team, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841886)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:43 PM
Author: Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter

Speaking of Jessup, have I ever congratulated you on your graduation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841824)





Date: January 17th, 2006 6:01 PM
Author: Racy gaming laptop

No, we were supposed to celebrate in person, but I had to find out that you left NY without calling via your blog. :)

It's a nice feeling, but studying for the Bar sucks. There is just something about sitting with an iPod Mini and listening to BarBri lectures all day that takes the satisfaction out of being done. heh. Ah well, only one more month and then I am a working man.

How is your last semester going, or has it not started yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841978)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:23 PM
Author: supple queen of the night institution

you are of course perfectly right about 1-3.

but i am not talking about spite. i am talking about an apparent anger management problem, his failure to deal with frustration and total lack of social skills (i don't mean the swearing, that's cool, but like you've said yourself, he doesn't understand that he could better just ask his friends--oops, what friends?--instead).

i wouldn't want to work with a moron like this on lr. well, why are we kidding ourselves, won't happen anyway...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841644)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:27 PM
Author: Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter

I wouldn't judge anyone by what they said or did in the angst of first grades. There are some very cool people who get uptight or upset from time to time. He chilled eventually, and I don't think he realized that he came off harsher than he intended. I wouldn't judge him based on that one interaction.

And first-semester grades are absorbed almost directly into your bloodstream. They materially alter how you'll view law school over the next three years (although they shouldn't).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841678)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:30 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

Oh, the sexism!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841704)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:31 PM
Author: Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter

Are you a girl?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841715)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:34 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

Hopefully, that's what I've been told all my life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841745)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:35 PM
Author: supple queen of the night institution

idbawys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841751)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:36 PM
Author: Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter

Hmm. I just don't think of numbers that have 17^2 as factors as being female. I suppose that is latent sexism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841754)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:37 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841765)





Date: January 19th, 2006 2:28 PM
Author: Soul-stirring pozpig

It is not exactly blind. The writing component is blind, but in the 2nd and 3rd round, the people have access to your biographical information, your personal statement, and other information you choose to reveal. If you act as an asshole here, chances are this is not the only place where you act that way. Someone might recognize you as "That annoying guy" and might subsonciously not push very hard for your admission. On the margins, it might make a difference.

While acting out of spite is inappropriate when making LR admission decisions, it is absolutely appropriate to select people with positive attitudes who can work with others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4857638)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:11 PM
Author: Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter

Enh. There's no reason anyone should defer to me and I don't expect it.

Especially on matters of etiquette. I'm not Ms. Manners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841532)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:07 PM
Author: Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter

I think that your method of going in with all guns blazing is a guaranteed way to get a kind and honest answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841488)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:09 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

You know, you're right. I see the light now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841505)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:16 PM
Author: Racy gaming laptop

This seems to be the correct impression.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841570)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:20 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

There's upside to all this - I love to see Mich students sticking together. Keep it up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841621)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:24 PM
Author: Racy gaming laptop

That's true, although I guess I'm an ex-student at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841651)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:26 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

Actually, that's even better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841667)





Date: January 31st, 2006 1:53 PM
Author: brass sex offender parlour

"I think you need to chill."

You're colluding to keep the grades under wraps, aren't you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4956306)





Date: January 17th, 2006 4:51 PM
Author: Snowy kitchen marketing idea

bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841314)





Date: January 17th, 2006 4:53 PM
Author: irradiated casino generalized bond

You will work for a large V100 NYC firm, before becoming miserable and retreating to a smaller firm w/ a better QOL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841339)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:29 PM
Author: Plum useless brakes

Be pleased. You're above average.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841690)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:40 PM
Author: Carnelian up-to-no-good faggot firefighter

There are people who got a B+ as their first grade who got two A+s to go along with them, and there are people who got a B+ as their first grade who got a C- as another grade. There are people who steadily improve and people who never budge. Many of those people find great jobs.

And what I meant to say is: you now know the result of 1/24th of your law school career. It tells you nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841798)





Date: January 17th, 2006 5:42 PM
Author: Plum useless brakes

ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4841817)





Date: January 18th, 2006 12:44 AM
Author: Bateful boltzmann degenerate

3 bedroom house in the suburbs. 2 kids. White Acura. Golden retreiver named Laddie. IRS audit in 2016.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4845598)





Date: January 18th, 2006 1:18 AM
Author: Federal drunken indirect expression doctorate

I see an Audi instead...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4845871)





Date: January 19th, 2006 2:32 PM
Author: Soul-stirring pozpig

No, B+ in Contracts means a Lexus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=341177&forum_id=2#4857665)