Voted for Trump and still support him, but he looks bad re: this Russia shit
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Date: January 5th, 2017 8:12 PM Author: Citrine Gas Station
Now that the CIA is saying they have identified the go-betweens to Wikileaks, Trump looks bad by going with Assange's narrative. Why would he trust a shadowy shadowy sweedish albino over U.S. intelligence? Even if Assange knew the person who gave him the emails wasn't Russian, how the hell could Assange know where they came from to begin with? Assange is either an idiot who should have known better to pretend he could know the origins of the emails, or he purposely duped Trump to make him look bad. Trump should have kept a wait-and-see stance about this until he took office instead of doing this confirmation bias bullshit. He also should have continued to downplay the importance of the emails in the first place instead of saying all this boomer non-sense about no one being able to trace computers.
I'd really prefer if Trump sticks to domestic issues (his strength) and let his generals screen anything he says re: national security going forward.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3482560&forum_id=2#32308354) |
Date: January 5th, 2017 9:00 PM Author: Godawful cracking codepig whorehouse
In the .0000000000001% chance this isn't another JJC style thread, it should be very obvious that Trump has to deny the Russia shit because this is the avenue shitlibs and the media will use to undermine him.
It is literally impossible to make a small concession that maybe Russia hacked but it wasn't a big deal.
The OP, who must be a cuck, seems to think that Paul Ryan's statement today is possible:
“But let’s just put this in the proper perspective,” Ryan said. “Let’s deny those who are trying to delegitimize a presidency before it starts, while doing what we need to do to make sure going forward that outside actors don’t interfere with our political system.”
Wrong. It is impossible to put this in "the proper perspective," especially with the den of snakes we call our media. (As an aside, Paul Ryan knows this, and this is further reason for Trumpmos never to trust him). And we don't need sanctions or Congressional action for our government actors to stop being so fucking negligent and actually pay attention to their information security.
And since what Russia did actually helped the American voters anyway, by providing hard proof of the collusion between the media and the Democrats, along with how the DNC rigged the primaries, I support Trump on this 100%.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3482560&forum_id=2#32308793) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 9:06 PM Author: Citrine Gas Station
Ryan is right though. They delegitimized the 2016-2020 presidency before it started because it put Trump in a no-win situation. Trump was damned if he acknowledged Russian interference, damned if he didn't. But the damnation isn't equal. The former looks way better for him than the latter.
We need to go back at these fuckers hard, which we can't do that until he says the Russians did it. A strong retaliation pwnage of Putin would actually make him look better in the long run and would make him look presidential. Right now he looks like a butthutt boomer tard on this issue. It could have been handled better. He can still right the ship if he wants to, but he can't keep up this act for long.
Also your statement that "what Russia did actually helped the American voters anyway" concedes the shitlib idea that Trump would have lost the election but for this, which is complete bullshit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3482560&forum_id=2#32308829) |
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Date: January 5th, 2017 9:15 PM Author: Godawful cracking codepig whorehouse
1. Wrong. The former does not look "way better" for him. Because by doing that, he'd have no choice but to support very strong sanctions on Russia. Which there is absolutely no reason for.
2. The Russians are not our friends, but we don't need to go back at them hard. Zero reason to, actually. In fact, we should be thanking them.
I am actually principled, and believe that sunshine is the best disinfectant. The Russians provided us with the sunshine we never would have gotten otherwise.
And for the record, if a foreign power hacked into Trump's camp and revealed emails where Trump secretly said he didn't give a shit about the wall or immigration, I'd thank that foreign power too and would really turn against Trump.
3. You must not have scored well on the LSAT. Not a concession at all. My statement means exactly what I said. They provided the American electorate with truthful, relevant information that helped people make a more informed decision. I'd be saying they helped the American voter even if Trump lost.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3482560&forum_id=2#32308894) |
Date: January 5th, 2017 9:19 PM Author: Disgusting talented set
THIS TIME HE IS DEFINITELY DONE
sorry we won bro
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3482560&forum_id=2#32308929) |
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Date: January 6th, 2017 1:02 AM Author: salmon vibrant office
So to be clear, this is the only evidence provided in the article:
"Included in that new information were intercepted conversations of Russian officials expressing happiness at Trump's win. Another official described some of the messages as congratulatory."
Am I wrong? Feel free to quote what I have missed.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3482560&forum_id=2#32310578)
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Date: January 6th, 2017 1:06 AM Author: Hyperactive parlor background story
What exactly happened? Did Russians hack the actual election, as in changed so much as 1 vote? Nope.
What we mean is that Russians were happy Hillary didn't win and that maybe some Russians somewhere (who may or may not have been affiliated with the government) possibly leaked some emails that were protected crappily.
BFD.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3482560&forum_id=2#32310609) |
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