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So, wait, is this N. Korea shit real?
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Date: April 27th, 2017 12:50 AM Author: Well-lubricated roast beef Thought this was all a big joke. Apparently were on alert? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173359) |
Date: April 27th, 2017 12:51 AM Author: twisted stag film newt https://mobile.twitter.com/maggienyt/status/824360667587215360?lang=en (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173369) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 12:56 AM Author: Hyperactive corner No it's not real. Trump just wanted to ensure THAAD was deployed in S Korea under auspicious of N Korea nuclear threat before the May 9th election.
S Korea is in an uproar right now over this. THAAD was approved by impeached President Park, a pro US dummy and they just deployed it under the cover of darkness.
Imagine what would happen to Trump if war happened and 30,000 US troops got nuked. He would go down as the most idiotic preosdent in US history. |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 12:57 AM Author: Well-lubricated roast beef Ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173436) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:03 AM Author: Stimulating fuchsia rigor Nk still doesn't have a reliable delivery system. Their power projection (read: 40 year old artillery) would be obliterated in under an hour. What happens after that I have no idea But you're vastly overstating the danger to us military. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173491) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:06 AM Author: spruce shitlib 100% wrong. Their literally thousands of heavy artillery pieces are in literal granite rock bunkers.
“These perfectly positioned offensive artillery firing positions are virtually impenetrable, extremely difficult to take out by counterfire,” said retired Army Maj. Gen. Robert H. Scales. “The terrain greatly favors the North, this arc of south-facing granite mountainsides just over the [Demilitarized Zone], in a position to pummel Seoul for weeks on end.” This leaves South Korea and the U.S. “with very little real capability to respond.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-korea-artillery_us_58f631a4e4b0b9e9848eb990
Yes, it's Huffington Post, but that retired general seems to know what he's talking about. |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:12 AM Author: mischievous talented gaping http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/bioter/seoulsvulnerability.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173567) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:15 AM Author: Stimulating fuchsia rigor First of all... Yes. Huffington post. Clinton 99%. I'm not saying we destroy every artillery piece but I think you drop a couple moabs and a hundred bunker busters and you pretty quickly degrade their ability to operate. Actually probably an ideal place to deploy various wmds... Night God knows we wouldn't... Its not as though there would not be immediate counter salvo and devastating air strikes. Command control would probably be decapitated very quickly.
I think worst case a thousand sk civs get blown up. What happens once the initial conventional fight is over I have no idea But to think it would be anything other than a slaughter is laughable. |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:17 AM Author: spruce shitlib It's a quote from a fucking retired general. You're a fucking XO poster.
"Beginning in 1982, Scales was a field artillery battalion commander in South Korea."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_H._Scales
Gee, I wonder who is more reliable? |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:19 AM Author: hateful house macaca better an ACTIVE xo poaster than a RETIRED general sorry no room for QUITTERS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173626) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 2:33 AM Author: lilac black woman den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173982) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 2:41 AM Author: greedy location associate Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173992) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 6:21 AM Author: floppy elite national CR. He's a war hero because he retired? I like people who didn't retire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174188) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 7:03 AM Author: Motley ungodly church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174202) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 10:29 AM Author: swashbuckling frisky juggernaut locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174993) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:24 PM Author: Aquamarine Bespoke Lodge Haunted Graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33181434) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:25 AM Author: heady idea he suggested lmao at this Jack Welch wannabe https://www.rt.com/files/news/3a/81/10/00/1.jpg
i'll take the poaster any day |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:32 AM Author: Hyperactive corner Certainly not Scales, sorry. His information is at best putdated and at worst plain wrong. Nobody knows NK arty positions better than S Korean intelligence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173712) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:35 AM Author: vibrant bearded theater identifying, locating, assembling a strike package to take out each gun position will take weeks. You will need precision guided munitions for each one. And I guarantee the area is going to have very high SAM and AAA concentrations so the attrition of our planes will be high. Also moabs are dropped from cargo planes, doent work too well in anything but uncontested air space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173725) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:42 AM Author: spectacular cuckoldry karate you are saying that NK just starts barraging downtown Seoul and we don't bring the hammer down like it's WWIII?
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:44 AM Author: Hyperactive corner Lol, SK and US have every single tank and artillery piece marked 24/7 and have done so for a cery long time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173771) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 7:28 AM Author: House-broken stirring address nowag Seems like this is something they might have already done (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174229) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 8:51 AM Author: Hideous Razzle Hall Fortunately, that's not necessary. http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/24/south-koreas-got-a-new-weapon-against-north-korean-artillery/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174408) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 8:01 AM Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Genital Piercing "Command control would probably be decapitated very quickly."
(guy who attended the Starcraft institute of military warfare studies) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:20 AM Author: glittery silver casino To be fair,
Poasting from a country that will still exist in three weeks, sup? |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:21 AM Author: twisted stag film newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173639) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:25 AM Author: Well-lubricated roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173663) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 7:53 AM Author: fishy blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174270) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:26 AM Author: Hyperactive corner Bro you are well reasoned but wrong.
The US and the military have a huge incentive to play up fears of NK. Thus it follows any GC bootlicking general will greatly overstate the risks.
Yes, NK's artillery is well fortified and well defended against counter artillery. However:
1) those guns are very old as are the stockpiles of ammo. Who knows how many misfires they would experience and half those shels would t even detonate 2) the troops and officers cannot be completely relied upon to pill the trigger knowing it would mean certain death for them and their entire family by a violent counteroffensive 3) counter artillery would be a mix of conventional, missle and bomb strikes combining overpressure, incendiary rounds and possibly even chemical agents to render all arty troops dead or incapacitat d 4) even assuming NK can reliably get some shots off, the ranges to hit most areas of Seoul are at the very far end of the range spectrum and will thus be highly susceptoble to wind and be wildly inaccurate.
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:28 AM Author: twisted stag film newt What gas is legal to use for western armies? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173689) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:29 AM Author: Hyperactive corner South Korea would use it in a heartbeat.
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:30 AM Author: twisted stag film newt What gas do they possess? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173701) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:31 AM Author: Hyperactive corner The kind that they dont publicly disclose, just like every other country? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173706) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:31 AM Author: Well-lubricated roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173708) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 2:20 AM Author: crystalline fiercely-loyal mediation skinny woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173959) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:30 AM Author: heady idea he suggested evaporated milk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173700) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 2:25 AM Author: curious mentally impaired office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173965) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 2:37 AM Author: lilac black woman den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173986) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 2:42 AM Author: greedy location associate Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173993) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 2:47 AM Author: very tactful thriller gas station jewess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174003) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 6:58 AM Author: Nubile Razzmatazz Reading Party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174198) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 9:41 AM Author: Slap-happy plaza stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174671) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 10:05 AM Author: Confused hyperventilating patrolman station ror! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174802) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 10:56 AM Author: bateful round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33175196) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 11:21 PM Author: Supple Alpha Tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33181419) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 9:42 AM Author: frozen gunner becky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174682) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:29 AM Author: heady idea he suggested US missiles and bombs can circumcise a gnat from 5000 miles away. we'll just do a lil *beep boop beep boop* on our computers, and these "impenetrable" firing positions will have 1000 missiles coming up their holds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173693) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 9:40 AM Author: frozen gunner becky They almost assuredly have zero logistical support for anything outside of a short burst offensive (even that might crap out). After that there would be a total collapse.
North K is a farce. |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:08 AM Author: Wonderful double fault North Korea still have 1950 soviet arms.millennia ahead of yankee dog. Red dawn soon! Nastrovje! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173534) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 2:41 AM Author: greedy location associate (Counter artillery commander at Dien Bien Phu) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173989) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 6:22 AM Author: erotic institution chad fdr got re-elected so much they needed to rewrite the constitution to prevent it from happening again so im going to guess a surprise attack on Our Troops would not result in trump's reputation being ruined (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174190) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:27 AM Author: soul-stirring yapping brethren space Iim near lackland air force base. sirens are blaring wtf is going on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173680) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:28 AM Author: Well-lubricated roast beef Pepper thine angus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173684) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:32 AM Author: soul-stirring yapping brethren space im cowered under my honda accord (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173713) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:38 AM Author: exhilarant legal warrant I can see the Trump administration and crazy neo-cons gambling with Korean lives for their strategic benefit though. Ultimately, it's better to spend Korean lives than wait a few more years for NK to develop long range ICBMs that can strike US soil. Trump's posturing that he'd be willing to make this gamble and that it's a perfectly reasonable calculation given MOAB demonstration and Thaad deployment. Whether or not it is isn't as important as whether other stakeholders believe Trump/neo-cons do, and are willing to act on that (mis)calculation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173742) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:45 AM Author: Hyperactive corner Youre an idiot.
There are tens of thousands of US troops in Seoul and many thousands more US citizens and other foreigners.
If they get killed, Trump will never recover.
NK will NEVER nuke the US, complete false flag. NK wants to survive, nothing more. Fat people dont commit suicide.
This is all just fear mongering to build up the military i dustrial complex, make Trump look tough and consolidate US position in Asia. Nobody believes NK would ever launch a preemptive strike on anyone. |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:48 AM Author: exhilarant legal warrant That's NK's fault. I wouldn't trust Trump to see it that way either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173796) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:50 AM Author: Hyperactive corner Yeah lets just start a unilateral war against the wishes of S Korea, China, Japan and the entire global community just for some made up imaginary threat. Oh wait, this sounds familar, except this time around a lot more than 4,000 US troops are going to die. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173804) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 2:06 AM Author: Black histrionic place of business pervert false: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osn8SVwA1Qo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173895) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 9:45 AM Author: frozen gunner becky Cr. We also have far more to gain keeping the Koreas separate. Zero incentives beyond sabre-rattling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174690) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 9:56 AM Author: Hairraiser Partner School Lol, serious? If the US forces in the DMZ were attacked there would be an ouflow of patriotism and support that would dwarf what Bush got after 9/1. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174756) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 10:00 AM Author: Hyperactive corner Uhm no.
You are assuming we are talking about a scenario where NK attacks first. Sure, in that case you're right. But NK will NEVER attack first.
Now the only possible scenario is US attacks first. NK retaliates with suicide option, killing thousands of US troops, civilians, causing the deaths of thousands of Koreans, Chinese, Japanese, British, French, Australians, Canadians, etc., who live in Seoul.
The whole world asks, "WHAT THE FUCK DID YO DO THAT FOR YOU DUMBFUCK?"
B-b-b-b-ut they have ICBM!!!! Lol. |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 10:34 AM Author: frozen gunner becky Tbf ,if we ever attacked first there would be some gulf of Tonkin / uss Maine type cover story. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33175024) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:47 AM Author: spectacular cuckoldry karate the counter theory is that we want NK to act as a security dilemma foil in the region, causing SK and Japan to work closer with us, permit us to base there longer, etc. and so we can more easily contain China. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173788) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:51 AM Author: Hyperactive corner This is the theory everyone in Asia, other than bootlicking faggots, believe. Hence the massive increase in anti US sentiment.
Nothing pisses me off more than seeing Asians go along with this BS. |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:54 AM Author: exhilarant legal warrant I think that's been the strategy for years. There's a deadline for resolution that's fast approaching. NK just tried to launch an ICBM and it failed. But how many months if not years away is it when it succeeds and they're able to arm it with a nuke? Maybe in the next couple years? If the political solution is stalled, then there is only a military solution. Spend lives now to save more later.
Granted, I don't believe all this but that's perfectly reasonable US policy to me given its history. The stakes are just one level higher now. Trump can pull it off because he has the loose aggressive image. |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:58 AM Author: Hyperactive corner Why the fuck would Nk ever launh a missle at US? Jesus christ use your brain.
If the North Koreans wanted to harm the US they would just send commando units into the US and conduct guerilla operations. They have had this capaility for 40+ years but never once have they done so. It would be so easy to sneak 1,000 commandos into NYC, have them pose as refular Korean bros, buy guns make bombs and cause utter mayhem in Manhattan.
Lets just do spend all NK resources to develop one tony nuke and a barely functional missile development system just to bomb one city and get wiped out!
NK only got serious about nukes when Bush placed it in the Axis of Evil and invaded Iraq. NK just wants to be left alone and survive. |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 2:07 AM Author: exhilarant legal warrant Why does the US want to topple Assad so bad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173900) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 2:08 AM Author: Hyperactive corner So bad that we are deploying troops right? Lol. If we wanted Assad toppled it would have been done years ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173913) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 2:48 AM Author: greedy location associate Even if they were going to nuke the us they wouldn't use an icbm, they'd just put it in a container ship. They'd eventually get nuked when the us matched the radiation signature to their bombs but they'd get a week or something to live like kings and watch CNN. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174007) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 9:37 AM Author: Hyperactive corner Seriously, this "ICBM" nonsense is ridiculous.
There are only a handful of countries in the world capable of launching a missile capable of both carrying a massively heavy nuclear warhead and delivering the package with precision to the US.
Unless you can launch hundreds, those warheads are all going to get shot down long before they reach US territory.
Again, a one-off strike makes no sense at all from NK's perspective, as I mentioned 1,000 trained suicide commandos could do so much more damage to the US. |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 2:08 AM Author: spectacular cuckoldry karate As a historical matter, considering some people actually thought it made sense to preemptively nuke the USSR in order to prevent our destruction (at the cost of perhaps a few cities or whatever), i guess it does make sense to preemptively take out NK by the same logic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173910) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 2:11 AM Author: Hyperactive corner The USSR had a viable threat of annhilating the entire US at will. NK will never in its wildest dream have that capability. The USSR was also directly threatening US interests jn Europe, Latin America, Asia and Africa. NK is just sitting around using nerve agents on siblings and executing traitors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173928) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 7:36 PM Author: Thirsty area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#34944248) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 1:59 AM Author: honey-headed comical cruise ship idiot Not sure why we would care about whether some koreans live or die as they aren't white. Also the soldiers stationed in korea are volunteers so we can p much do what we want with them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33173846) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 2:03 AM Author: Hyperactive corner Bbbut save those poor Syrians/Libyans/Iraqis/Somalis/French/British/Vietnamese.
America has a history of sticking its nose into non-white peoples business.
I wish it werent true but thats the reality. |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 3:11 AM Author: Cocky Center Wrinkle ITT: xoxo know-nothingism at its best (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174037) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 9:42 AM Author: Slap-happy plaza stock car (Gook with N. Korean artillery shell with his name on it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174678) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 3:15 AM Author: Demanding Point Not real. NK artillery positions are all monitored 24/7 by US/ROK intelligence. They will at most shell for 5 minutes before all the counterartillery + missiles will shell the fuck out of their position. Shoot & scoot is the name of the game now- and NK's artillery is still old-ass towed artillery, while ROK army has one of the largets concentration of self-propelled howitzers.
The status quo benefits all for now- China wants a buffer state, US gets a foothold in Asia, Japan can blame the Korean peninsula and their right wing can stay in power/re-write their peace clause in their constitution, and SK gets peace while the right wing can blame any and everything to NK to get what they want.
Now Moon will become president most likely and this may change- even still, as long as there is no pre-emptive strike I'd rather be under US umbrella than China's- China is too expansionist, too undemocratic for me to tolerate |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 5:39 AM Author: Hyperactive corner China's umbrella will finally allow SK to fuck Japan. Short term Us status quo is best, but a China backed SK would utterly ruin Japan's economy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174178) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 7:03 AM Author: twisted stag film newt Self propelled howizters? Like...a roomba with guns? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174203) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 9:35 AM Author: Dead glassy coldplay fan son of senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174642) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 9:57 AM Author: Slap-happy plaza stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33174762) |
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Date: April 27th, 2017 10:37 AM Author: marvelous judgmental mood weed whacker you really were considered a faggot in texas, weren't you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3597085&forum_id=2#33175054) |