Date: July 30th, 2017 12:30 PM Author: Know-it-all mother site
In response to someone who is not in the office at 10pm on a Friday night, this is how a biglaw senior associate would handle it:
Date: July 30th, 2017 12:05 PM
Author: DevryMastersCandidate
If you were my junior I would just tell every partner I know that you're a lazy unreliable piece of shit with questionable work ethic and poor work quality behind your back and suggest staffing someone else on our deals. I would smile and be super friendly to you every day. You'd be out of a job within a year and you would have no idea why.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 1:34 AM Author: Outnumbered talented keepsake machete
Yes, if you're ducking out of work, what are you doing?
You're fucking everyone else to do your work for you. I have zero tolerance for that. I don't care if you suck at your job if you're there putting out, and if you're there in the trenches with me I will spend all GD year trying to help you out. But the moment you quit on the team and prioritize your social life over the social lives of everyone else who stayed behind to get the work done, you're dead to me. Weddings, family emergencies, medical issues, fine that's all good, just let me know. But don't expect anyone in biglaw to have any sympathy for your desire to get wasted on a Friday night when there's actual work to be done and you're basically saying "fuck you I'm going to party you do the work."
We didn't make the rules, we just exist in this system that has been the way it has been for decades. You knew this coming in, and you accepted your paycheck every 2 weeks, so don't give me this "biglaw is hard" crap now.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 1:36 AM Author: Slimy parlor fortuitous meteor
You're a fucking pussy bitch. if you can't see this you're autistic.
If you have a problem with someone's work performance, tell them to their face you low T sack of shit. I'd chew you the fuck out even if you were my superior (and you never would be).
I don't work in law because I'm not a cuck, thankfully.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 1:37 AM Author: Outnumbered talented keepsake machete
LOL you really struggle to read.
Deciding to SKIP WORK and avoid your duties is not work performance related. It's the bare minimum expected of a PROFESSIONAL that you don't go fucknig AWOL on your team.
Yeah if you fuck up an assignment I'll tell you to your face and do what I can to teach you (or have someone else teach you if they are really junior). What do you think happens in any other job if you just pull the AWOL card? In the military they lock you up and call you a coward.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 1:39 AM Author: Slimy parlor fortuitous meteor
how did I struggle to read, you fucking dipshit?
you said you'd go behind someone's back and smile to their face, you autistic weasel faggot. that is the *only* thing I was referring to.
"Deciding.....your team"
What was your RC score, moron? You don't get it...that doesn't MATTER. I didn't say that behavior shouldn't be addressed. I said it should be addressed directly instead of smiling at someone to their face like the cucky faggot bitch that you are.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 1:41 AM Author: Outnumbered talented keepsake machete
Lol what do you think performance reviews are you dipshit? It's a bunch of people getting feedback behind your back and then laying it out for you at the end of the year when they tell you to fuck off.
"Wah wah I shouldn't be expected to answer my phone or check my emails on a Friday night!" Yeah? Well don't join a fucknig V5 then. You KNOW what you're getting yourself into, so don't expect any sympathy if you can't put up with the demands or hours.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 1:46 AM Author: Slimy parlor fortuitous meteor
How stupid are you? You keep bringing in all this irrelevant information that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. I don't care what the issue was, I don't care about performance reviews, I don't care about any of that shit. None of it matters.
I am literally only referring to the fact that you said you would talk shit behind someone's back and smile to their face. Forget all your stupid jew overthinking and talking about performance review, etc. Literally just focus on the ....two sentences you said regarding this.
This has nothing to do with performance reviews, protocol or anything. Putting on a fake smile and talking shit behind someone's back is bitchmade, in any context. Even if it's the "norm". If that's the case, then everyone you work with is a cucky bitch faggot. Comprende?
Date: November 2nd, 2019 1:54 AM Author: Outnumbered talented keepsake machete
You really don't get it.
If a guy starts ghosting his team, that means that guy has decided he no longer wants to be in a V5. That's totally fine, and there's no amount of talking that will change his mind. Once you cross that bridge you're not coming back. That's a rational choice and I totally respect that.
But a V5 cant function with freeloaders who coast and collect massive salaries. The guy has to go, one way or another. I'll stop giving him work, and I'll stop working with him. When people ask me about him, I'll say he's no good, that he's given up. These types of ad hoc performance reviews happen all the fucking time in any job.
And yes, I'll smile at him. Yes, I'll be nice to him, and have no problem sitting next to him at lunch or having a beer with the guy after work. Why? Because he's still a fucking human being and I'm not going to ignore him as a person or be mean to him. I know he's going to be leaving, but I can at least be pleasant with him. According to your logic, I should be nasty to him everytime I see him. LJL.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 11:15 AM Author: Know-it-all mother site
"And yes, I'll smile at him. Yes, I'll be nice to him, and have no problem sitting next to him at lunch or having a beer with the guy after work. Why? Because he's still a fucking human being and I'm not going to ignore him as a person or be mean to him. I know he's going to be leaving, but I can at least be pleasant with him. According to your logic, I should be nasty to him everytime I see him. LJL. "
Fucking LOL at you trying to turn this into you being GENEROUS and PLEASANT and THATS the reason you'd smile while jabbing the knife. I was going to leave this thread I made 2 years ago alone, but the whole point of your post was that you would stab him in the back because that's what he deserves and that's the power you have. Just admit you eitehr didn't mean what you originally wrote or that you did mean it because youre a backstabbing, catty man. Either one is fine.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 1:38 AM Author: Outnumbered talented keepsake machete
Again, you're missing the distinction. I will discuss mistakes in your work with you all day long.
I have a zero tolerance policy for someone who ghosts their team. I don't care if you suck at your job, but the moment you start ignoring phone calls or emails or turning your phone off so you can get wasted or rub your peepee against some diseased hold, that's game over from my perspective.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 1:58 AM Author: vibrant area scourge upon the earth
Why should I listen to an uncle chang? Especially one who is much dumber than me and has a cuck bugman mindset? You're a pathetic fag and it bleeds into everything you poast. Really the only thing I respect about you is how comfortable you are with being a groveling cocksucker.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 2:00 AM Author: Outnumbered talented keepsake machete
Plz explain how a dumb gook like me got into HYP and you managed to end up at Tufts, the 5th best school in your state. If a dumby like me got into HYP, does that make you a literal retard then?
Date: November 2nd, 2019 2:16 AM Author: Outnumbered talented keepsake machete
But it's all relative based on the applicant pool. Among my peers, I was alpha enough to land HYP. Among google starbucks peers, he was clearly in the 3rd tier.
This is like trying to argue that Michael Jordan sucks because NBA players are more athletic now.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 2:25 AM Author: Outnumbered talented keepsake machete
LJL shut up Tufts dweeb. You know all your bitches were whoring themselves out to the H, BC, BU and MIT bros every weekend, desperate to get away from the stench of the Tufts "men."
Date: November 2nd, 2019 2:13 AM Author: vibrant area scourge upon the earth
Well in 1995 a gook like you probably studied for it for 2 years while I just sat down, took it, was told by my guidance counsellor it was good enough, never worried about it again and probably scored within 100 points of you. You come off to me as that sort of person.
Also in general it's the manner in which you interpret the world. You always argue on appeals to authority, status, etc.--you seem to kind of value and judge everything based on symbols and signals. You seem like someone who can handle information and process it well but not someone who can ask good questions. I'm sure it makes you a great biglawyer. We're very different people so you just come off to me as retarded, and I'm always going to think I'm more intelligent than you and vice versa so I'm not going to go on with it but we've been at it before on this same sort of line and I guess that's just my reasoning and analysis. I'm not even being edgy here. I think a lot of XO poasters are smarter than me. I just don't think you're one of them.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 2:19 AM Author: Outnumbered talented keepsake machete
Please do give me an example where I made an appeal to authority or obsessing over status in this thread, since I seem to "always do this."
By the way, I studied for the SAT for like 1 week, never took a practice exam and got nearly a perfect score on it, despite spending probably 2-3 minutes reading the instruction pages on exam day lol since I had no idea if I was going to be penalized for wrong answers. I studied for the LSAT for like 3 weeks and ended up with a really high score.
I also majored in STEM. I'm pretty fucking smart, thank you.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 2:25 AM Author: yellow becky
honestly it’s just a little bit sad and pitiful how invested this guy is in trying to impress anonymous people on an obscure tweetblog
I picture him stewing over his answers with arteries in his neck bulging, angrily hammering out responses, and throwing his phone across his cubicle when the responses don’t respect his authority
honestly it’s just a little bit sad and pitiful how invested this guy is in trying to impress anonymous people on an obscure tweetblog
I picture him stewing over his answers with arteries in his neck bulging, angrily hammering out responses, and throwing his phone across his cubicle when the responses don’t respect his authority
Date: November 2nd, 2019 2:08 AM Author: Outnumbered talented keepsake machete
This is Reed Smith level poasting. You copied/pasted a classic xoxo meme ("thread didn't go as expected for OP") and modified it slightly, but it doesn't work anymore does it numbnuts? No sir, not when the OP itself was premised on things "not working out too well for the gook." Idiot.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 2:11 AM Author: Outnumbered talented keepsake machete
Well, it happens with literally every associate who decides they want to leave the firm. But LJL at the idiots ITT who thinks I'm a dick for smiling at them and being nice to them before they do leave.
Date: November 3rd, 2019 10:45 PM Author: Multi-colored state legend
This is a prole bort now so half of these guys aren't in biglaw. You shouldn't tell them anything, they know exactly what they are doing by ghosting. You are doing them a favor by asking them to leave and there is no need to be a dick to them until they do. If you are at this point, like I am maybe 3 months away from, the dream IS TO BE FIRED.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 2:14 AM Author: bull headed stage windowlicker
how have I not seen that thread. stopped reading at "I was never into fucking chicks when I was younger"
pretty clear the reaction isn't based off some higher ethos, but a hatred for those for were into fucking chicks when younger. overall, very feminine and dishonest behavior - especially the going behind the back part
edit: read some more and it's clearly flame. well done
Date: November 2nd, 2019 2:21 AM Author: Outnumbered talented keepsake machete
Lol dishonest behavior. You mean like turning off your phone and ghosting your team when work blows up so you can spend the night drinking? Yeah. And of course, said associate is going to be completely honest the next day and admit to why his phone was off, instead of coming up with some lame excuse about "bad reception" or "server error." LJL.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 2:32 AM Author: bull headed stage windowlicker
? that sends a pretty clear message he doesn't give a fuck about the request/knows it bullshit and had something better to do - whether it was a chess tournament or going out drinking. We could talk ad nausuam about the severity of this, what's expected, what's an appropriate extenuating circumstances, etc etc.
but you are a massive faggot for buying into office politicking, talking behind people's back, lying to people's face, and assuming everyone who doesn't conform to your warped worldwide is the same jock who bullied you in high school and the military
it's just a fucking job bro, chill out. It isn't your first, and won't be your last. You may think your doing yourself a favor by sharing gossip with your superiors, but it's a sign that you cannot be trusted with other's reputations and they will be less likely to share sensitive information with you in the future hth. not to mention you could have covered for this guy, bitched him out on Monday, and made him your bitch for 6 months thereafter. You clearly weren't doing shit on Friday night anyways lol. You aren't alpha and don't know how alphas think
Date: November 2nd, 2019 2:35 AM Author: Outnumbered talented keepsake machete
You make it sound like I'm deviously going around whispering about this guy. LJL have you never stepped foot in an actual job?
People ask each other about each other all the fing time. It's part of the evaluation process. "How's he working out?" "How was he on that last deal?" I'll just be honest and say "well he kind of disappeared on us." Or "Where was he? Why didn't he do his job?" I'll say, "I don't know where he was."
Yeah, I know what that will do to his career and I don't GAF. He made the choice. But I'll still be nice to him and treat him like a human being.
I'll cover for you if you make mistakes at work. Sometimes I'll take the blame and say I didn't give clear instructions. I'll spend my weekends with you if you need help with concepts and also write you the best review possible as long as you are putting in the effort. I'm extremely lenient about stuff like that. SHIT, if you tell me you're burnt out and you need to take a weekend off to get high and wasted, I'll say "go have fun." But don't ever ghost your team. I personally have a zero tolerance policy for quitting. That's my military background. We don't tolerate quitters.
Date: November 2nd, 2019 3:05 AM Author: Outnumbered talented keepsake machete
1) Most of the shit we did in the military was some BS "hurry up and wait" exercise. Yet we were all expected to be there on time and ready to go with all our gear. A lot of it was bigger BS than some biglaw firedrill (like digging around the grass all night long for that one missing bullet casing from last week out of the hundreds you sent downrange). Or an emergency cleaning exercise to pick up all the trash and sweep all the dust because some General was going to be driving by your area tomorrow.
2) Since you don't really seem to know much about the military, basically if you quit on the team (like failing to report on time or not showing up to formation), you get an ass chewing and maybe some restrictions but that's it. There's nothing an officer can do without making himself look like an incompetent leader so they're basically stuck with a shit soldier who gets bad reviews and maybe passed on promotion but there's only so much you can do. An ass chewing in biglaw these days will be met with an HR complaint or possible lawsuit so you're even more limited in what you can do with a quitter.
If you look at elite units like the Navy SEALs and BUD/S, even those guys can't do much to shitheads other than trying to get them to quit. It's too much of a bureaucratic hassle to kick someone out of BUD/S so they have to try to encourage them to DOR by playing mind games with them.
In my unit we had a bunch of arbitrary rules and guidelines (like shaving at a specific time of day or how many articles we can put into a single laundry load) and the NCOs would try to get the shitheads to rack up enough violations to justify their transfer. But then the receiving units don't want shitheads so the NCOs couldn't write too much of the bad stuff down on paper and had to resort to other passive aggressive means to get people to agree to a transfer while maintaining a good record. Shit like "hey Korea is a really good service station, you'll get a lot of pussy and eat ddokbokgi all the time and get paid more too!" to get them to bite.