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Are most RPGs a huge waste of time
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Date: September 25th, 2017 12:55 AM Author: Hot histrionic forum Just bought Bravely Default (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289102) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 6:16 AM Author: Greedy casino Bigger waste of time than most. Story and characters are not engaging, gameplay structure has you visiting many locations and fighting many bosses multiple times. Bravely Default is the RPG you play when you want something competent but have played all of the classics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289538) |
Date: September 25th, 2017 12:56 AM Author: Fighting partner gas station Yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289111) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 12:57 AM Author: Hot histrionic forum Dammit. Should I code instead? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289118) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 12:58 AM Author: Painfully honest queen of the night idea he suggested Most RPGs are way too long for what they bring to the table, and they rely on lame dopamine tricks to get you addicted by watching numbers go up.
The best RPGs are games like Earthbound that aren't too long and constantly mix it up with weird content, or strategy RPGs like Fire Emblem where the actual game system is challenging and interesting. |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:00 AM Author: Hot histrionic forum Did you ever play Bravely Default or Bravely Second? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289138) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:02 AM Author: Painfully honest queen of the night idea he suggested No, and have no interest in doing so.
I did recently play Final Fantasy 6 on the SNES. It was okay but frankly I don't have any desire to play another mainline Final Fantasy. |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:04 AM Author: Hot histrionic forum Are you a fan of Pokemon Crystal? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289162) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:05 AM Author: Painfully honest queen of the night idea he suggested Have not played that either. I own Heart Gold but I ran out of steam around Mt. Silver and didn't even bother beating Red. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289167) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:08 AM Author: Hot histrionic forum Ridiculous amounts of grinding during the last parts of the game since no trainer or wild Pokemon could help put you close to Red's level (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289180) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:12 AM Author: Painfully honest queen of the night idea he suggested Grinding in general is a miserable experience and it's a good example of the shitty addictive qualities many games today have. FFS, if you're gonna waste time doing repetitive shit at least make it rewarding and go work out or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289196) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:13 AM Author: spectacular emerald heaven prole you didn't need to be anywhere close to red's level since it's the end of the game and your team is probably full of overpowered legendaries pikachu was his highest leveled guy i think and its stats are a joke even at whatever level it was at |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:17 AM Author: Hot histrionic forum I killed the legendaries back then or couldn't catch them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289215) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:18 AM Author: spectacular emerald heaven prole just save before the fight lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289219) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 2:26 AM Author: abusive center private investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289382) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 9:55 AM Author: Fighting partner gas station Heartgold is worth like $300 now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34290121) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:05 AM Author: Glittery Buck-toothed Stage i also bought that, i'm like 30 minutes in but haven't picked it up in a couple months. planning to come back to it at some point but i have other things going on and it didn't really reel me in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289169) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:22 AM Author: Stirring brunch Modern rpgs, yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289226) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:28 AM Author: Painfully honest queen of the night idea he suggested Plenty of old RPGs are horrible too. Tons of them up their "play time" by requiring a ton of grinding, and the plots + worldbuilding are rarely enough to justify it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289240) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:31 AM Author: Glittery Buck-toothed Stage yeah
not trying to justify old RPGs here, there was a ton of that shit and in retrospect i can see why people made fun of nerdy dudes who insisted that RPGs were the best games because of their sophisticated story lines (despite many other flaws) even thought those story lines were only a bit less hackneyed and cliche than other games |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:43 AM Author: Painfully honest queen of the night idea he suggested This is really coming out as I play more retro games. Was Final Fantasy VI's plot better than about 90% of games? Sure. But most half-decent novels are better, and you can read a novel in a lot less time than it takes to play a Final Fantasy game.
On the other hand, Terranigma was genuinely good. People should go play that. |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:48 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle nofapping double fault a lot of them are, yeah. but not all of them. 1 out of a 100 will be interesting in some way, whether that is in story, unique gameplay elements, world-building and art design, technical achievement, etc. (bioshock, mass effect 1 and 2, a few of the final fantasy games, skyrim, witcher 3, original pokemon games). this isn't remarkable - its the same thing in books or film or music. most tv shows are bullshit but that doesnt make the entire medium a waste of time.
but if youre just talking about JRPGs/turn based leveling RPGs like bravely default, which i havent played, yeah... almost all of them are a huge waste a time. just a bunch of grind fests, and theyre all the same game over and over again.
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Date: September 25th, 2017 2:01 AM Author: Painfully honest queen of the night idea he suggested Yeah, I agree film and music are similar. The big problem with RPGs is that they're fucking long. You can take a risk on a movie being a waste of two hours. Rolling the dice on an RPG that takes 40+ hours is nuts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289317) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 9:46 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle nofapping double fault Books are long too. You just have to do the research. Find a few reliable reviewers, wait for them to play and give the thumbs up (one trick is to wait for annual "best of"), and also wait 6 or 12 months after a game comes out to buy it to save $$. And be willing to cut the cord if it sucks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34296089) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 2:11 AM Author: disgusting sex offender public bath The RPG part of Zelda breath of the wild is annoying me a bit. Great game but hate farming rupees to get/upgrade x armor when I should be killing things or solving puzzles in dungeons (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289344) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 2:16 AM Author: Painfully honest queen of the night idea he suggested Seriously, LJL at this shit. No good game should EVER have fucking farming or grinding that takes longer than 5 minutes or so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289357) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 2:17 AM Author: disgusting sex offender public bath Yeah, a bit scared of the new mario. Iim sure they find some way to make it open world and to add bullshit rpg elements (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289359) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 12:31 PM Author: Razzle pisswyrm cumskin pro tip - they are going to have areas in levels that are inaccessible earlier in the game until you gain certain powers later on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34291463) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 6:48 AM Author: jade adventurous plaza potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289571) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 2:22 AM Author: High-end Goyim Hairy Legs video games are simultaneously good and faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289371) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 2:27 AM Author: Glittery Buck-toothed Stage just like life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289385) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 2:30 AM Author: High-end Goyim Hairy Legs cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289392) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 12:26 PM Author: vivacious scourge upon the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34291414) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 2:58 AM Author: laughsome aquamarine faggot firefighter if your concept of RPGscomes from mainline jRPGs like final fantasy, bad hiking simulators like the elder scrolls, or skinnerbox trash like diablo, then yeah, rpgs would seem like a total waste of time.
but there are plenty of games that manage to either deliver a compact, focused experience (original fallout stands out as the best example) or create enough good content to justify a 25+ hour campaign (e.g. baldur's gate 2 or SMT: nocturne). |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 3:03 AM Author: Painfully honest queen of the night idea he suggested Haven't played any of your good RPG examples, but agree that all the bad ones you list are bad. Do you have a top 10 list of RPGs you think are good? I enjoyed Earthbound quite a bit (simply because of how odd it was) and enjoyed Mass Effect quite a lot. Hated Dragon Age: Origins and mostly have been underwhelmed by JRPGs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289435) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 3:46 AM Author: laughsome aquamarine faggot firefighter it's hard to make a top 10 because of how dissimilar RPG subgenres can be.
if you want a fallout-like, a game all about different experiences for different character builds and a lot of open-ended gameworld design, the first fallout is probably the best. it has a slow start, but the least bloat. games that followed, like the fallout 2, arcanum, and new vegas tended to have a lot more "here be monsters" combat areas, none of which played well within the combat systems of these games, but let the developers boast of longer playtime in gaming propaganda rags.
you'd probably want to go:
-fallout 1 -fallout 2 -arcanum -new vegas
given that you didn't like dragon age: origins, i'm not sure if i'd recommend a D&D-based game; they're all just about crawling around in dungeons and killing things, and aren't categorically different from da:o. they do have much better area/encounter design, far fewer trash encounters (which made no sense in dragon age given regenerating health/mana, but i digress), and the core systems aren't as MMO-ish, for lack of a better term (more emphasis on positioning in battle and management of limited resources per rest).
for d&d-likes, you probably want to try:
-baldur's gate 1 & 2 (while 2 is much better, it does presume some familiarity with d&d and the game engine) -knights of the chalice -dark sun: shattered lands -the krynn trilogy (champions, death knights, dark queen -pool of radiance and curse of the azure bonds -maybe icewind dale
you've got wizardry-style dungeon crawlers. these are an acquired taste, and i probably can't recommend them to someone repulsed by typical jRPGs. good ones aren't grindy, per se, but they do focus strongly on combat and labyrinthine dungeons to the exclusion of everything else. fun if you like it, but this sort of monomania might grate on others.
if you're willing to try, then shin megami tensei: nocturne or wizardry: tale of the forsaken land might be decent intros.
then there are the games that are genre hybrids or games that defy categorization. stuff like gothic/risen, dragon's dogma, way of the samurai, vampire: bloodlines, jagged alliance 2, breath of fire: dragon quarter, paper mario, barkley shut up and jam gaiden...some interesting stuff here, but hard to recommend without more info. |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 3:56 AM Author: Painfully honest queen of the night idea he suggested Thanks for this. Only game you listed that I've played is Barkley Shut Up and Jam Gaiden, which is 180 pretty much for the same reason Earthbound is. A seriously funny, original game can get by with a lot of generic stuff in other areas.
Interesting that you didn't list Planescape: Torment, which I get recommended a lot. Any reason that was absent? |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 4:12 AM Author: laughsome aquamarine faggot firefighter i love planetescape: tournament, and master chris avellone, but it's hard to recommend to someone who would probably rather read a book. it's basically a western spin on the visual novel, but with more stats and adventure game elements. there is combat, but because of crunch time hitting early, it is extremely rough, and best avoided.
i like it a lot, find the setting fascinating, and think it does do some interesting things as far as interactive storytelling goes, but i'm not certain how a (cynical) mid-late 20's me would rwact to the melodrama and phil 101 that pervades the game, and that matters when recommending it. |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 4:37 AM Author: disgusting sex offender public bath Your take on Pillars of Eternity and Tyranny?
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Date: September 25th, 2017 7:53 AM Author: jade adventurous plaza potus >knights of the chalice
180 that you have a shareware RPG on there. never played this but it looks like my kinda thing. |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 11:19 PM Author: opaque hissy fit party of the first part fuckin nerd, think you're too good for mainstream games? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34297051) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 4:02 AM Author: Stirring brunch Divinity original sin 2 is getting rave reviews (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289497) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 6:27 AM Author: Greedy casino I'm pretty sure that game is going to take me 120+ hours based on the pace I'm going (being slightly completionist and trying to explore everything but not using a walkthrough) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289554) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 12:42 PM Author: Racy sepia stag film puppy same.
also i tend to explore a lot of different options so i'll reload frequently. |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:11 PM Author: naked location Its a good game (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34291814) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 6:26 AM Author: Rebellious Hall Mediation No, they provide the infantryman the ability to provide direct fire support. Mortars, even when deployed closely, are functionally indirect (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289553) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 9:57 AM Author: abusive center private investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34290134) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 8:32 AM Author: Milky bateful house affirmative action Elder scrolls are fun and worth the investment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34289729) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 9:53 AM Author: Comical indigo keepsake machete RPGs are for Dragon Ball Z-wearing neckbeard Asperger atheists, HTFH. Kill yourself if you waste your precious time on earth with this bullshit. Reading is more entertaining than this NOWAG garbage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34290110) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 9:57 AM Author: abusive center private investor RPGs are basically reading (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34290136) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 12:47 PM Author: Fragrant place of business den getting stoned and grinding ur dragon warrior III chars is so 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34291592) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:17 PM Author: provocative purple mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34291883) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:18 PM Author: Supple mint multi-billionaire i just bought witcher 3 for ps4, haven't played it (or 1 and 2) before.
am I about to kiss 60+ hours of my life goodbye? |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 9:28 PM Author: Fishy marvelous principal's office toaster more like 100 but its fun. Play gwent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34295937) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 9:48 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle nofapping double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34296114) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 11:21 PM Author: Startling arrogant pistol i liked witcher 3 a lot but was into witcher 1 & 2. if you like dark fantasy and don't care about the gameplay being kinda repetitive, kiss your butt goodbye. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3742955&forum_id=2#34297065) |