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Date: September 25th, 2017 11:22 AM Author: chestnut razzmatazz codepig heaven how many past partners? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34290775) |
Date: September 25th, 2017 11:23 AM Author: nudist lilac parlour bbw [Insert steez's screed about finding love in your 30s] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34290790) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 10:03 PM Author: free-loading idiot bawdyhouse See below (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34296329) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 11:24 AM Author: Onyx Menage a prolapsed, meth-addicted, pornstar who's overweight and has a broken tranny cock. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34290797) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 11:36 AM Author: Carnelian station cr zhe deserves better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34290941) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 2:54 PM Author: ruby scourge upon the earth blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34292682) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 11:50 AM Author: Ivory Diverse Really Tough Guy Immigrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34291067) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:13 PM Author: Rebellious rigor partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34291844) |
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Date: September 26th, 2017 1:02 AM Author: misunderstood titillating kitchen unreasonable expection, don't give him ideas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34297690) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 11:45 AM Author: Galvanic kitty One of my wifes teacher friends got divorced a couple years back. They were married very young, but no kids. He basically bailed to go fuck kinky strange. I think this aspect caused some self reflection on her part to the benefit of her subsequent husband. She was on the market for not even a year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34291024) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 11:54 AM Author: chestnut razzmatazz codepig heaven what does kinky strange mean? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34291102) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 12:19 PM Author: Galvanic kitty Tinder sluts and more newer pussies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34291338) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 11:58 AM Author: Wonderful Digit Ratio Home -Evangelical (or at least Christian) divorcee who married young. -Asian virgin (or close). -Serial monogamist whose number is <10 but who will spend the rest of her life in love with the men who've come before you. -Diamond (or maybe more like quartz) in the rough MD/PhD-type who has been too focused on academics to gobble yards of cock. |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 12:19 PM Author: Onyx Menage none of these things exist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34291344) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:15 PM Author: Wonderful Digit Ratio Home I have stuck my penis inside of 1-3. They all have their cons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34291859) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:26 PM Author: Razzle plaza go through the cons (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34291990) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:14 PM Author: Wonderful Digit Ratio Home Some of them just come from conservative families who didn't let them even do things like have sleepovers or go to prom and missed the boat on socialization; they're not all rice paddy people. They're out there. Lots of them go to work and go straight home, occasionally meeting friends for tea and hotpot. Up to you to decide if this is preferable to a screaming liberal weathered white woman who's had anal with 50 guys before you. When you're an average guy in your 30s as in OP's poast, you're 12-15 years past meeting your soulmate in a Cornell dorm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34291847) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:28 PM Author: Razzle plaza "but she's asian, what about your sons??", the balding 5'9" ectomorph monsterface cried out in crippling loneliness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34292009) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 2:40 PM Author: Blue laughsome ticket booth I know a lot of Chinese (just like anyone who's gone to college in the 21st century), none have rural parents.
Unless you're thinking of dating an illegal at a Chinese restaurant in the middle of nowhere. Those people are often peasants, yes. |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 4:00 PM Author: Onyx Menage lol at trying to justify yourself, juene lee. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34293149) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:33 PM Author: Blue laughsome ticket booth Nonwhite bros like me you and Beckersted profit most by leaving white women to their proper place: on some sheik's yacht getting pooped on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34292058) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 2:38 PM Author: Blue laughsome ticket booth Irish Catholics (redundant) are some of my favorite WOC's! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34292541) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 3:34 PM Author: concupiscible institution I would assume that any middle eastern christians were only single because they were waiting to meet someone of their specific background. (I know a coptic christian guy who is like this - single MD at 38 balling out, but has not found a non-shrew wife in the area he lives; everyone assumes he is a closet case, but I have seen the women his parents try to set him up with and I'd still be single too if those were my options.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34292987) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 7:51 PM Author: bat shit crazy gunner Interesting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34295101) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:15 PM Author: Rebellious rigor partner you're a fucking idiot faggot
hope you enjoyed bragging about listening to NPR, living in a major city, and drinking the JEWISH kool-aid for ten years.
enjoy your dumb whore wife and ugly, autistic children you will almost never interact with. |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:38 PM Author: Vibrant ocher deer antler You can date 18 year olds in your 30s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34292100) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 1:42 PM Author: supple chartreuse university Your best chance will be outside of the city. Most chicks 30 and up will be divorced. You might find an attractive 25 yo if you have some money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34292131) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 2:52 PM Author: chocolate hairraiser sneaky criminal High-quality girl who was in a LTR that ended for normal reasons is best outcome when in dating in early 30s. Past that things get darker. You are probably looking at a divorcee who did not have kids or MD/PhD type who focused on career and didn't have time to date at that point. At best.There are not a lot of normal, well adjusted women in their thirties who are single and have never been married. Source: guy who dated and got married in mid thirties. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34292664) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 2:53 PM Author: bronze shaky brethren Describe Tinder/date scene for a 30-35 year old. Broken chicks left and right? Is your wife a unicorn? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34292677) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 3:01 PM Author: chocolate hairraiser sneaky criminal Wife is quasi unicorn, which is why I was all for speeding to marriage track. She was in a medical residency program and had been in a few LTRs that didn't work out.
Dating scene: lots of bitter divorcees or divorcees trying to relive their lost youth, aging shrews obsessed with travel that don't realize the clock is ticking (or pretend not to know), otherwise attractive women with personality disorders that can't maintain relationships
Early thirties actually have good options. I hooked up with a ton of under 25 year olds when I was 31-32 and was dating late twenties girls who were in a LTR that didn't work out mostly. |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 10:01 PM Author: lascivious pale area useless brakes the personality disorders: sad! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34296295) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 2:56 PM Author: Cheese-eating Canary Karate Honestly, if you want to find a quality chick at 30+, you'll need to travel overseas. Do that and you'll be able to find a non-westernized woman who is 10 years younger than you and has a totally different outlook on life and family than the average western woman. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34292700) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 3:36 PM Author: concupiscible institution If you are not on meth or BPD you should be able to date a 26-27 year old at 34-36. Plenty of decent ones who were in LTRs that didn't work out. But 27 is really the cutoff to find a cheerful, relatively normal chick with no kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34293006) |
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Date: September 25th, 2017 10:04 PM Author: Razzle plaza *sets up booth selling guns, ammo and exit bags ITT* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3743211&forum_id=2#34296343) |
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