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The US built 10 aircraft carriers but only bought enough jets for 3

HAHAHA! And you want to fight Russia when you only have 94 d...
misunderstood jet-lagged stage immigrant
  01/05/18
Don’t the garbage commie carriers not even have catapults be...
Chrome persian feces
  01/05/18
TBF the commie jets have better engines thus mitigating the ...
misunderstood jet-lagged stage immigrant
  01/05/18
The only thing Russians are ten to fifteen years ahead on is...
topaz headpube public bath
  01/05/18
War is their purpose comrade and the Izd 30 engine is a gene...
misunderstood jet-lagged stage immigrant
  01/05/18
valen when are you gonna give this up?
topaz headpube public bath
  01/05/18
When the US stops shitting itself in everything it does.
misunderstood jet-lagged stage immigrant
  01/05/18
Actually, if there's anything Russia does well it is having ...
Razzle-dazzle awkward double fault pistol
  01/05/18
Even based on the OP’s tortured logic this completely falls ...
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Purple Stimulating Area
  01/05/18
94 jets in an air war over Russia is basically a rounding er...
misunderstood jet-lagged stage immigrant
  01/05/18
“The last time Russia’s sole aircraft carrier sailed into th...
topaz headpube public bath
  01/05/18
Yankee lies.
misunderstood jet-lagged stage immigrant
  01/05/18
Although the ship was commissioned in 1990, its first combat...
topaz headpube public bath
  01/05/18
The crashes stem from shitty piloting. But Yankees lose 1 Ho...
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talented azn associate
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OP, Allen Edmonds is having a sale! http://www.allenedmonds....
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  01/05/18
I wear $80 Rockports exclusively, bro. Fuck real dress shoes...
misunderstood jet-lagged stage immigrant
  01/05/18
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Blue wrinkle school
  01/05/18
Obama destroyed our military, this is no secret but we ar...
Pale Racy Tank Faggot Firefighter
  01/05/18
This is a budget battle piece. Naval aviation wants more F18...
Coral crackhouse
  01/05/18
"The Kuz may not have 9 brothers but he has a fully dep...
hairless mad cow disease
  01/05/18
Rofl
Pale Racy Tank Faggot Firefighter
  01/05/18
Ouch
flushed deranged newt new version
  01/05/18
Devastating
Coral crackhouse
  01/05/18
Hahahahaha
topaz headpube public bath
  01/05/18
"The MiG could have been saved, if the carrier's comman...
Stubborn parlor idea he suggested
  01/05/18
This is some grade A incompetence right here.
Razzle-dazzle awkward double fault pistol
  01/05/18
oh wow
Blue wrinkle school
  01/05/18
lmao
narrow-minded range
  01/05/18
Lol ARE reptile sure knows his shit.
milky base doctorate
  01/05/18
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Purple Stimulating Area
  01/05/18
ARE Reptile, otvechai, pozhaluista
Pale Racy Tank Faggot Firefighter
  01/05/18
The disparity in flight-time between the USA and everyone el...
Ruddy business firm kitty
  01/05/18
True but doesn't excuse that level of incompetence.
Razzle-dazzle awkward double fault pistol
  01/05/18
You underestimate the incompetence, corruption, laziness, an...
Ruddy business firm kitty
  01/05/18
I absolutely do not. I lived and worked there, remember? ...
Razzle-dazzle awkward double fault pistol
  01/05/18
Ukrainians and Syrian high-school graduates don't count.
Ruddy business firm kitty
  01/05/18
Georgians, Chechens, etc. And all of these guys fighting wi...
Razzle-dazzle awkward double fault pistol
  01/05/18
I'll give you Georgians and Chechens, but beating an arab ho...
Ruddy business firm kitty
  01/05/18
I don't know if that is fair. Ok if they both suck then nam...
Razzle-dazzle awkward double fault pistol
  01/05/18
There isn't anyone better, that's the irony.
Ruddy business firm kitty
  01/05/18
Right, but this is the ultimate grade on a curve exercise.
Razzle-dazzle awkward double fault pistol
  01/05/18
Yeah. Experienced pilots are more important than superior h...
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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:12 AM
Author: misunderstood jet-lagged stage immigrant

HAHAHA! And you want to fight Russia when you only have 94 deployable F-18 Hornets and it took you 3 months just to get those 94 ready to sail! HAHAHA. No wonder Vlad feels he can just shit on any part of the globe he likes. The Kuz may not have 9 brothers but he has a fully deployable airwing that doesn't take 3 months to cobble together from pieces.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-3-carrier-show-of-force-near-north-korea-cost-the-us-navy-big-2017-11

To get Carl Vinson, Nimitz and Theodore Roosevelt ready to deploy in January, June and October of this year, and equip their embarked air wings with the required number of mission-capable jets, 94 strike fighters had to be transferred to and from the maintenance depots or between F-18 squadrons on both coasts,"

"This included pulling aircraft from the fleet replacement squadrons, where our focus should be on training new aviators," Shoemaker added.

The massive reshuffling of jets leaves non-deployed squadrons without planes to practice on, which will have "detrimental impacts to both retention and future experience levels" of those pilots, according to Shoemaker.

These deployments, Shoemaker said, caused "several hundred" parts to be "cannibalized," or taken from other jets to fix the F-18s going on the carriers. The task decimated the "readiness of squadrons" and added "significantly and unnecessarily to the workload of our maintainers," according to Shoemaker.

In total, Shoemaker reported that 300 sailors had to be reassigned to complete the task, and he expects it to affect the Navy's ability to retain talent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086373)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:22 AM
Author: Chrome persian feces

Don’t the garbage commie carriers not even have catapults because subhuman slavs couldn’t figure them out? Enjoy your ski jumps and low performance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086389)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:25 AM
Author: misunderstood jet-lagged stage immigrant

TBF the commie jets have better engines thus mitigating the need for catapults. An F-18E could never take off a ski jump and not crash into the ocean.

The only reason the Chicoms are going with catapults in follow on designs is their new J-20 fighter has a shitty Chinese made engine and is too damn heavy like the F-18. The Russkies who are 10-15 years ahead in engine development dont have this problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086393)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:30 AM
Author: topaz headpube public bath

The only thing Russians are ten to fifteen years ahead on is societal collapse due to endemic substance abuse and lack of any unifying purpose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086398)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:35 AM
Author: misunderstood jet-lagged stage immigrant

War is their purpose comrade and the Izd 30 engine is a generational leap over the F119 and F135. Dry thrust is nearly 25% higher per kilo and fuel consumption is 13-18% lower depending on altitude and its cheaper too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086410)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:47 AM
Author: topaz headpube public bath

valen when are you gonna give this up?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086435)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:49 AM
Author: misunderstood jet-lagged stage immigrant

When the US stops shitting itself in everything it does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086440)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 10:13 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle awkward double fault pistol

Actually, if there's anything Russia does well it is having a unifying purpose. They're Russian and the nation is under siege from a bunch of foreign powers.

And substance abuse is awful in the US too.

All that said, US carriers are unmatched in the world. This is one of those cases where if we put what everyone else had against what the US has the US would easily win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086964)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:29 AM
Author: topaz headpube public bath

Even based on the OP’s tortured logic this completely falls apart.

If the Russians had three air craft carriers, this would be a sick burn, but the OP isn’t contending that the US had difficulty mobilizing a single carrier.

So the fact that Russia only has one shitty carrier means that it is embarrassing that kitting out three carriers proved to be a logistical challenge?

Ha! Stupid Yankee, only three times as strong as Russia on short notice. Putin genius triumph again! Once Kurz is towed back into place, sea will be dyed red with Yankee blood!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086396)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:31 AM
Author: Purple Stimulating Area



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:32 AM
Author: misunderstood jet-lagged stage immigrant

94 jets in an air war over Russia is basically a rounding error. Whether its 30 or 90 makes like no difference. When you are down to numbers this low carriers lose any semblance of a strategic capability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086402)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:36 AM
Author: topaz headpube public bath

“The last time Russia’s sole aircraft carrier sailed into the Mediterranean Sea, five years ago, the U.S. Navy’s 6th Fleet kept a close eye on its progress. The concern among American officers wasn’t the ship’s contingent of fighter planes; instead, it was the very real worry it would sink and necessitate a potentially risky rescue operation.” Thus, the ship is more of a symbol of embarrassment to Russia.”

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russias-only-aircraft-carrier-doomed-22718

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086412)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:37 AM
Author: misunderstood jet-lagged stage immigrant

Yankee lies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086413)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:39 AM
Author: topaz headpube public bath

Although the ship was commissioned in 1990, its first combat mission wasn’t until last year when Russia deployed it off the coast of Syria to participate in Moscow’s campaign to prop up the Bashar al-Assad regime. It did not go well. In a one month period two planes flying from the aircraft carrier crashed. As Russian and other naval analysts noted at the time, these mishaps occurred in part because the carrier wasn’t meant to participate in prolonged campaigns. “It’s a very old ship with very old technologies. It is not prepared for intensive flights,” is how one Russian analyst explained it to the Washington Post.

???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086418)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:42 AM
Author: misunderstood jet-lagged stage immigrant

The crashes stem from shitty piloting. But Yankees lose 1 Hornet basically every other month so its not really an exclusively Russian problem. Carrier ops are hard. Had nothing to do with the carrier itself. Bigger problem was actually not running out of bombs on the carrier. At one point they literally ran out of bombs to drop and had to wait for like 3 days to resupply. That was embarrassing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086422)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:44 AM
Author: beta electric furnace death wish



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:47 AM
Author: topaz headpube public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086434)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: talented azn associate



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:37 AM
Author: orchid hall jewess

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Cop some new kicks to wear to your ttt shitjob!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086414)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 7:39 AM
Author: misunderstood jet-lagged stage immigrant

I wear $80 Rockports exclusively, bro. Fuck real dress shoes when you can wear sneakers that look like dress shoes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086419)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 8:04 AM
Author: Blue wrinkle school

*htms ladyboy hafts tugboat humbler threateningly at rfs potato*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086467)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 8:19 AM
Author: Pale Racy Tank Faggot Firefighter

Obama destroyed our military, this is no secret

but we are still more powerful than all other militaries in the world combined, so I think we have time for Trump to put things back together

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086494)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 8:26 AM
Author: Coral crackhouse

This is a budget battle piece. Naval aviation wants more F18s, but the CNO and Congress dont want to give them because they would rather spend it on F35s and other big ticket items.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086514)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 9:06 AM
Author: hairless mad cow disease

"The Kuz may not have 9 brothers but he has a fully deployable airwing that doesn't take 3 months to cobble together from pieces."

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2016-12-05/russias-carrier-operations-start-mishaps

After a few cruise missile launches and bombing raids on targets on the Syrian rebel-held province of Idlib in mid-November, the Russian navy task force in the northeastern Mediterranean remains largely inactive, contrary to expectations. Just before the strikes, the task force suffered the embarrassing loss of a MiG-29K on November 13. Then on December 3 one of its Su-33s overshot the carrier and crashed into the sea.

The pilots of both aircraft ejected and were subsequently rescued, but both aircraft sank to the bottom of the sea. These are painful losses for the Russian navy, especially the MiG-29K single-seater multirole fighter, only 20 of which were procured, along with four MiG-29KUB two-seat operational trainers, with deliveries in 2013-2015.

The MiG accident was initially attributed to unspecified technical malfunctions. But it emerged later that the MiG-29K was lost after it exhausted all its fuel while awaiting clearance to land on the carrier Admiral Kuznetsov. The permission was never issued because the carrier’s crew had not managed to repair the Svetlana-2M arresting equipment in time, after one of its four wires broke. The MiG could have been saved, if the carrier's commander had instructed the pilot to divert to an airbase in Syria or Cyprus. But he hesitated to approve such an alternative, in the hope that the ship's arrestor gear would be repaired quickly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086669)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 9:25 AM
Author: Pale Racy Tank Faggot Firefighter

Rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086754)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 9:28 AM
Author: flushed deranged newt new version

Ouch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086765)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 9:36 AM
Author: Coral crackhouse

Devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086808)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: topaz headpube public bath

Hahahahaha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086934)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 10:12 AM
Author: Stubborn parlor idea he suggested

"The MiG could have been saved, if the carrier's commander had instructed the pilot to divert to an airbase in Syria or Cyprus. But he hesitated to approve such an alternative, in the hope that the ship's arrestor gear would be repaired quickly."

That right there just illustrates how fucked up the Russian military is. In an american jet the aircraft commander (pilot) would have had final say on whether to divert or ditch, not some faggot Admiral in a starched shirt.

That's just bad pre-flight planning ad poor situational awareness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086961)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 10:14 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle awkward double fault pistol

This is some grade A incompetence right here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35086972)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: Blue wrinkle school

oh wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35087594)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: narrow-minded range

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35087608)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 12:18 PM
Author: milky base doctorate

Lol ARE reptile sure knows his shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35087639)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Purple Stimulating Area



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Date: January 5th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Pale Racy Tank Faggot Firefighter

ARE Reptile, otvechai, pozhaluista

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35089208)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: Ruddy business firm kitty

The disparity in flight-time between the USA and everyone else is massive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35089268)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 3:57 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle awkward double fault pistol

True but doesn't excuse that level of incompetence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35089282)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: Ruddy business firm kitty

You underestimate the incompetence, corruption, laziness, and stupidity of Russians, Chinese, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35089323)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle awkward double fault pistol

I absolutely do not. I lived and worked there, remember?

That said, we have some remarkable bullshit here for sums of money that would make even Russians and Chinese people blush.

Also, despite this the Russian military has been on a real winning streak lately.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35089339)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: Ruddy business firm kitty

Ukrainians and Syrian high-school graduates don't count.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35089356)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle awkward double fault pistol

Georgians, Chechens, etc. And all of these guys fighting with US weapons.

Also, the Muslim horde that are pwning the US in Afghanistan. All despite Obama's promises that Russia would be fucked in Syria.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35089372)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:08 PM
Author: Ruddy business firm kitty

I'll give you Georgians and Chechens, but beating an arab horde that the U.S. couldn't says more about the U.S. than Russia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35089403)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle awkward double fault pistol

I don't know if that is fair. Ok if they both suck then name someone better at this than the US or Russia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35089421)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: Ruddy business firm kitty

There isn't anyone better, that's the irony.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35089430)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle awkward double fault pistol

Right, but this is the ultimate grade on a curve exercise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35089552)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: hairless mad cow disease

Yeah. Experienced pilots are more important than superior hardware and the US has both. Our military is on a peacetime footing and absolutely not where it could or should be, but it's not up against any hypothetical super military; compared to everybody else's peacetime military, we have massively better training and more experience.

ARE Reptile alludes to "10" carriers but the reality is that the USA has 20 (the 10 "amphibious assault" ships would be carriers in literally any other navy), i.e., more carriers and more experienced pilots than the rest of the world combined. Chortling over some supply hiccups on outfitting 3 of those 20 carriers is, of course, absurd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3850118&forum_id=2#35089520)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Ruddy business firm kitty



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:34 PM
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Date: January 5th, 2018 9:31 AM
Author: Arousing Space Fanboi

gay sex is the main factor impacting the Navy's ability to retain "talent"

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