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What is your favorite EPIC POEM?

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multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma
  01/25/18
Song of Roland.
Pearl dragon people who are hurt
  01/25/18
Are you fucking kidding me?
Fuchsia cuck
  01/26/18
(monolingual moutbreathing Trumpkin who can't read medieval ...
Pearl dragon people who are hurt
  01/26/18
you can read medieval french? what else can you read?
Lemon plaza
  01/26/18
No. I can read German though.
Pearl dragon people who are hurt
  01/26/18
ever read the Nibelungenlied?
Maniacal bull headed weed whacker candlestick maker
  01/26/18
Faust > Wagner, but neither are EPIC POETRY in genre
insane lake toaster
  01/26/18
not in OG middle high german.
Pearl dragon people who are hurt
  01/26/18
the legend is told, up in Lufthansa Gold...
Supple indian lodge idea he suggested
  01/25/18
Tie between Theogony and Divine Comedy; The Prelude close se...
jade sadistic stead
  01/25/18
Paradise Lost
Self-centered field
  01/25/18
The Illiad is GOAT
Lemon plaza
  01/26/18
the COLUMBIAD, AMERICA'S epic poem
insane lake toaster
  01/26/18
TIL, tyft. but wiki goes harsh: "Intended as a natio...
buck-toothed ruddy electric furnace tank
  01/26/18
it's not even a good poem, but it's so distinctively enlight...
insane lake toaster
  01/26/18
Strong in thy strength I bend no suppliant knee, http:/...
buck-toothed ruddy electric furnace tank
  01/26/18
the lusiads
sapphire garrison sweet tailpipe
  01/26/18
Ship of fools
bright splenetic haunted graveyard chapel
  01/26/18
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Fiercely-loyal mint rehab ladyboy
  01/26/18
Does Prometheus count?
insanely creepy azure ticket booth private investor
  01/26/18
prometheus bound, frankenstein: or the modern prometheus, or...
insane lake toaster
  01/26/18
The Prophet
boyish hairless lettuce
  01/26/18
I liked the Aeneid a lot. Found Paradise Lost dreadful. ...
Zippy Irradiated Temple
  01/26/18
Aeneid is my favorite too never read the indian epics
multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma
  01/26/18
For storyline, the Aeneid. For actual poetry, probably P...
opaque misanthropic brethren
  01/26/18
what language are you reading paradise lost in thats "c...
Lemon plaza
  01/26/18
what translation of the aeneid did you read?
multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma
  01/26/18
The Aeneid is a linguistic tour de force. Only about half of...
Zippy Irradiated Temple
  01/26/18
yep that kind of shit is completely lost on me. to me the Ae...
opaque misanthropic brethren
  01/26/18
It's actually pretty easy. http://www.skidmore.edu/academ...
Zippy Irradiated Temple
  01/26/18
well yes I know poetry works, but I don't read Latin so the ...
opaque misanthropic brethren
  01/26/18
Well, a major part of poetry is cadence, and that was an opp...
Zippy Irradiated Temple
  01/26/18
you can read the whole damn poem in latin fluently and under...
multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma
  01/26/18
A couple of years, but I had no idea how to learn languages ...
Zippy Irradiated Temple
  01/26/18
How did you learn to learn languages? I always found languag...
multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma
  01/26/18
cr pls describe your technique, Stephen.
Stimulating out-of-control sanctuary sandwich
  01/26/18
I think most language classes actually hamper and discourage...
Zippy Irradiated Temple
  01/26/18
180 tyft
Stimulating out-of-control sanctuary sandwich
  01/26/18
180
Stimulating out-of-control sanctuary sandwich
  01/26/18
trolling aside, the Aeneid is a more interesting epic to a m...
insane lake toaster
  01/26/18
Homeric, followed by paradise lost.
henna love of her life gaping
  01/26/18
what do you like better, illiad or odyssey?
multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma
  01/26/18
for a while it was the odyssey but then I re-read fitzgerald...
henna love of her life gaping
  01/26/18
I like the Iliad better. girls supposedly like the odyssey b...
multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma
  01/26/18
fagles is 180. First thing I read by him was the Three Theba...
Stimulating out-of-control sanctuary sandwich
  01/26/18
yeah I read his translation for that too
multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma
  01/26/18
Beowulf
thriller nowag wagecucks
  01/26/18
We all love Seamus Heaney here
jade sadistic stead
  01/26/18


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Date: January 25th, 2018 10:55 PM
Author: multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35240387)



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Date: January 25th, 2018 10:57 PM
Author: Pearl dragon people who are hurt

Song of Roland.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35240396)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 1:16 AM
Author: Fuchsia cuck

Are you fucking kidding me?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35241628)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 8:30 AM
Author: Pearl dragon people who are hurt

(monolingual moutbreathing Trumpkin who can't read medieval French)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242424)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 8:33 AM
Author: Lemon plaza

you can read medieval french? what else can you read?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242432)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 8:44 AM
Author: Pearl dragon people who are hurt

No. I can read German though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242464)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:10 AM
Author: Maniacal bull headed weed whacker candlestick maker

ever read the Nibelungenlied?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242509)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:11 AM
Author: insane lake toaster

Faust > Wagner, but neither are EPIC POETRY in genre

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242513)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:20 AM
Author: Pearl dragon people who are hurt

not in OG middle high german.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242557)



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Date: January 25th, 2018 10:57 PM
Author: Supple indian lodge idea he suggested

the legend is told, up in Lufthansa Gold...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35240398)



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Date: January 25th, 2018 10:57 PM
Author: jade sadistic stead

Tie between Theogony and Divine Comedy; The Prelude close second

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35240400)



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Date: January 25th, 2018 10:59 PM
Author: Self-centered field

Paradise Lost

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35240412)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 1:12 AM
Author: Lemon plaza

The Illiad is GOAT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35241594)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 1:12 AM
Author: insane lake toaster

the COLUMBIAD, AMERICA'S epic poem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35241600)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:22 AM
Author: buck-toothed ruddy electric furnace tank

TIL, tyft.

but wiki goes harsh: "Intended as a national epic for the United States it was popular with the reading public for a few years, and was compared with Homer, Virgil and Milton, but it has since been for the most part dismissed as an overblown and tedious failure."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242570)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:47 AM
Author: insane lake toaster

it's not even a good poem, but it's so distinctively enlightenment AMERICAN. the invocation is even to Freedom:

"Almighty Freedom! give my venturous song

The force, the charm that to thy voice belong;

This thine to shape my course, to light my way,

To nerve my country with patriot lay,

To teach all men where all their interest lies,

How rulers may be just and nations wise:

Strong in thy strength I bend no suppliant knee,

Invoke no miracle, no Muse but thee."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242764)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: buck-toothed ruddy electric furnace tank

Strong in thy strength I bend no suppliant knee,

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01381/obama_bow_1381505c.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242803)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 1:13 AM
Author: sapphire garrison sweet tailpipe

the lusiads

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35241603)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 1:14 AM
Author: bright splenetic haunted graveyard chapel

Ship of fools

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35241609)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 1:14 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal mint rehab ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35241614)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 1:16 AM
Author: insanely creepy azure ticket booth private investor

Does Prometheus count?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35241629)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 1:18 AM
Author: insane lake toaster

prometheus bound, frankenstein: or the modern prometheus, or the film

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35241636)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 8:47 AM
Author: boyish hairless lettuce

The Prophet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242470)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:03 AM
Author: Zippy Irradiated Temple

I liked the Aeneid a lot.

Found Paradise Lost dreadful.

Anybody read the Indian epics, like Ramayana or Mahabharata? Worth diving into?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242495)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:05 AM
Author: multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma

Aeneid is my favorite too

never read the indian epics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242499)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:05 AM
Author: opaque misanthropic brethren

For storyline, the Aeneid.

For actual poetry, probably Paradise Lost because it is written in English and I can appreciate it in something close to the original language.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242498)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:06 AM
Author: Lemon plaza

what language are you reading paradise lost in thats "close to english"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242500)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:12 AM
Author: multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma

what translation of the aeneid did you read?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242516)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:22 AM
Author: Zippy Irradiated Temple

The Aeneid is a linguistic tour de force. Only about half of Latin words were available to fit the dactylic hexameter, the meter used in the Aeneid. This is like Michael Jordan winning a championship playing with one arm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242569)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:23 AM
Author: opaque misanthropic brethren

yep that kind of shit is completely lost on me. to me the Aeneid is a prose work cuz I read it in translation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242574)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:36 AM
Author: Zippy Irradiated Temple

It's actually pretty easy.

http://www.skidmore.edu/academics/classics/courses/1998fall/cl202/resource/meter/metintro.html

Don't pay any attention to the technical vocabulary. Just look at the diagrams. Essentially, each line can have six rhythmic units, and each unit can be two long syllables (-- -- ) or a long syllable followed by two short ones (-- x x). There's freedom to combine the former with the latter in a line, inducing a hypnotic effect on the listener.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VGMqzL0xRk&t=0m55s



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242681)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: opaque misanthropic brethren

well yes I know poetry works, but I don't read Latin so the effect of reading the Aeneid in the original Latin and being impressed by Vergil's mastery of Latin is not something I'll ever experience

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242781)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: Zippy Irradiated Temple

Well, a major part of poetry is cadence, and that was an opportunity to learn something about an epic poem you like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242944)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 10:11 AM
Author: multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma

you can read the whole damn poem in latin fluently and understand all of it? how many classes did you have to take to be able to do that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242920)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 10:17 AM
Author: Zippy Irradiated Temple

A couple of years, but I had no idea how to learn languages back then.

Almost anyone can do it in a few months of study.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242949)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma

How did you learn to learn languages? I always found language classes to be a pain in the ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242989)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 10:26 AM
Author: Stimulating out-of-control sanctuary sandwich

cr pls describe your technique, Stephen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35243007)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 10:38 AM
Author: Zippy Irradiated Temple

I think most language classes actually hamper and discourage people from learning languages.

I was initially inspired by the guy in the article, who used to poast on a language forum:

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871623&mc=6&forum_id=2

He shared his techniques on the forum, and gradually, other people began doing some wild experiments and sharing the results. They would start something really crazy, or expand on other people's methods.

So I began my own journey, and it took me a while to experiment and nail down a process that works for me. But everyone has to find a method that works for him, to accommodate his level of motivation, time, interests, etc etc.

Here are a couple of things that I think are universally important:

-Sound should be the primary component in learning any language, even dead ones. I now refuse to learn any language without sound recordings. If one doesn't exist, I'll record it myself.

-Take smaller bites. Focus on learning about ten to twenty sentences a day, listening to them and repeating them throughout the day.

- But not too small. It's much more helpful to learn vocabulary in the context of a sentence than trying to memorize a list.

- Repetition is key. Frequent repetition establishes the fundamentals.

- Don't worry too much about grammar at first. The sentences you internalize will give you a great footing to formalize your grammar study later. That way, learning grammar becomes fun and not a chore.

There are some techniques I've learned from other people, and even invented along the way, but the above are the basic gist of my approach.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35243123)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 10:44 AM
Author: Stimulating out-of-control sanctuary sandwich

180 tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35243173)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: Stimulating out-of-control sanctuary sandwich

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35243001)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:42 AM
Author: insane lake toaster

trolling aside, the Aeneid is a more interesting epic to a modern audience than either of the Homeric ones. the Iliad has vast swathes where nothing really happens, but it's hard to go more than 50 lines in the Aeneid without interest, because it's a denser poem responding to Hellenistic epic. and the last 4 books are incredibly underrated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242714)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:14 AM
Author: henna love of her life gaping

Homeric, followed by paradise lost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242527)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:15 AM
Author: multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma

what do you like better, illiad or odyssey?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242530)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 10:18 AM
Author: henna love of her life gaping

for a while it was the odyssey but then I re-read fitzgeralds iliad again and ... I think I prefer it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242954)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma

I like the Iliad better. girls supposedly like the odyssey better. I have read the lattimore and fagles translations and liked fagles a lot better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242978)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 10:28 AM
Author: Stimulating out-of-control sanctuary sandwich

fagles is 180. First thing I read by him was the Three Theban Plays and was hooked for life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35243026)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 10:30 AM
Author: multi-colored dull theater stage friendly grandma

yeah I read his translation for that too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35243046)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:49 AM
Author: thriller nowag wagecucks

Beowulf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242775)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 9:50 AM
Author: jade sadistic stead

We all love Seamus Heaney here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3871315&forum_id=2#35242779)