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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Useless Reading Party Public Bath

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Black hairless bawdyhouse

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Useless Reading Party Public Bath

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: bisexual charismatic juggernaut address

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: glittery water buffalo

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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Useless Reading Party Public Bath

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: glittery water buffalo

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Useless Reading Party Public Bath

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: bateful location ratface

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: angry half-breed principal's office

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Soul-stirring hall

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Useless Reading Party Public Bath

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: opaque philosopher-king field

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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: lemon slippery sound barrier resort

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Useless Reading Party Public Bath

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Alcoholic trip antidepressant drug goal in life

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Useless Reading Party Public Bath

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: Alcoholic trip antidepressant drug goal in life

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: gay kitchen

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: glittery water buffalo

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: ivory vigorous dog poop

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Useless Reading Party Public Bath

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: bateful location ratface

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: glittery water buffalo



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Black hairless bawdyhouse

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: 180 Really Tough Guy

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: Black hairless bawdyhouse

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Useless Reading Party Public Bath

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Black hairless bawdyhouse

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: gay kitchen

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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: gay kitchen

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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: hideous tanning salon

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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: 180 Really Tough Guy

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: Galvanic Church

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Rusted Plaza

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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
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