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Date: April 9th, 2006 12:32 PM Author: galvanic stead roommate
Yeah, the whole car chase deal.
I already had questions about the validity of this case. Being a huge nerd, I hate jocks as much as the next guy, but it was unsettling as to how quickly people were condemning the lacrosse players without any real evidence other then the stripper's allegations.
Coupled that with the jackass DA and the whole case is unsettling. I knew the DA was a jerkoff when he questioned as to why the players lawyered up if they were innocent. What the hell?!? I'm not even a law student but that's the first thing I would do, especially if I was innocent.
But from the news reports, apparently the chicks injuries are consistent with some type of assault. Whether it was self inflicted or from the lacrosse players is hard to determine. But I don't trust what she says at all really.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548495) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 12:35 PM Author: Alcoholic saffron reading party trailer park
I was disturbed how quickly people were condemning the entire team too. The coach resigned? Why?
Everything is going against the accuser/prosecutor right now, but it depends on the DNA and other physical evidence.
I am thinking this case is going to be dropped, though.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548514) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 12:39 PM Author: excitant jap orchestra pit
I mean, all this would fall apart if it turned out the mystery caller wasn't the prostitute, but I'd say it's 95% certain it is.
But then there's the new photo evidence....the case is just so shoddy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548540) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 12:41 PM Author: abnormal senate gaping
the new photo evidence that nobody has seen...?
i mean, as opposed to police reports and rape kits...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548554) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 12:55 PM Author: abnormal senate gaping
"When a young woman is locked in a bathroom with three men and is strangled near to death and fights for her life such that five of her artificial fingernails are found on the floor..."
"You can say anything you want to about the DNA and the sperm that`s collected. Somebody can say, I had sex with her consensually, she didn`t. But those fingernails have skin under them, and nobody`s going to be able to contest that."
"The victim was examined at Duke University Medical Center by a nurse who was specially trained in sexual assault cases," Nifong said. "And the investigation at that time was certainly consistent with a sexual assault having taken place, as was the victim's demeanor at the time of the examination."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0603/31/ng.01.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12096835/from/RL.2/
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/30/earlyshow/main1454898.shtml?source=RSS&attr=TheEarlyShow_1454898
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548641)
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:03 PM Author: galvanic stead roommate
Im not white, and I don't know if the guys on the team are guilty or innocent. But I don't think it's entirely right to go off an declare their guilt right away since they haven't been charged/arrested yet.
I felt the same way with the Kobe case, and I hate Kobe.
The circumstances feel somewhat shady.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548689) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:06 PM Author: abnormal senate gaping
lol
i get that feeling, too.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548711) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:08 PM Author: Lavender quadroon spot
"you piss it all away because you can't control your loins."
Isn't the lack of self-control pretty much the story of black men in America? They commit crimes at amazingly high rates. They have children out of wedlock at high rates. They have children by multiple mothers at high rates. If that's not indicative of a lack of self control, tell me what is.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548721) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:13 PM Author: Drunken fortuitous meteor doctorate
Something tells me that even if this were true, you would be the exception.
Now shutup faggot.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548752) |
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Date: April 10th, 2006 11:47 PM Author: Curious crotch
"those white fags are going to prison."
The DNA evidence says you're a fucking moron -- AGAIN!
Strom = PWN3D!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5559019) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 12:38 PM Author: abnormal senate gaping
she hasn't. the defense atty put out a press release indicating he was "sure" it was her.
it is media hype and unobjective white people are eating it up like candy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548533) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 12:43 PM Author: abnormal senate gaping
of course she knew the house address. she was on the street. most people make the addy of their home visible. even if the house the students were in didn't have an address, 90% of the other houses on the block likely did. why would anybody be unable to put two and two together ESP when they were reporting an incident which took place in front of a specific home?
people's rationalizations of y the phone call must be connected to the stripper are so tired and pathetic it is ridiculous.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548572) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 12:46 PM Author: excitant jap orchestra pit
Also, the caller admits she is white and has a "black girlfriend". That is consistent with the two prostitutes.
Yes, it's POSSIBLE they would have the clarity of mind to check the address (assuming the others were "clearly visible", which at night, from what I know about college neighborhoods, is doubtful).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548587) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 12:56 PM Author: abnormal senate gaping
"Also, the caller admits she is white and has a "black girlfriend". That is consistent with the two prostitutes."
link?
i've never heard anything about the caller admitting she was white.
and why are you calling the women prostitutes?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548645) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 2:03 PM Author: excitant jap orchestra pit
Find the transcripts. I don't want to search.
Because they take money for sex maybe?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549060) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 2:15 PM Author: abnormal senate gaping
i have not seen any transcripts released.
what was issued was a press release from the defense atty with two out-of-context quotes from the phone call.
if u have seen a transcript, dig it up and link it. i'm sure folks would like to see.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549122) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 12:45 PM Author: Alcoholic saffron reading party trailer park
So they were prostitutes? I heard that was a possibility.
Wow, worst case ever. I'd hate to prosecute this one, even if the physical evidence corroborates her story.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548579) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:15 PM Author: Alcoholic saffron reading party trailer park
What the fuck do you think an escort is?
Newsflash: They're prostitutes.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548769) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:21 PM Author: Alcoholic saffron reading party trailer park
hahahahaha
Sure.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548801) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:28 PM Author: Alcoholic saffron reading party trailer park
It's a euphemism for prostitute, dipshit.
I doubt that even 1/100 "escorts" are not prostitutes.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548845) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:54 PM Author: Dull haunted graveyard
I will give you that in NYC, an escort MAY not be a prostitute. But in durham, NC, a 19 year old guy isnt hiring an escort to fucking show her off to his frat buddies and make them think he has a hot girlfriend. Particularly 19 year old allegedly racist white guys aren't going to be parading around a black escort for any reason other than sex.
if you are an escort in NYC, maybe you don't have sex. If you are an escort in durham, NC, it's a virtual guarantee that you get fucked every time you get hired.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548995) |
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Date: April 10th, 2006 11:50 PM Author: Curious crotch
"YOu really think this was the first time someone called the police on them?"
It's probably the first time a black prostitute called the cops on them. It's probably the first time a lying bitch was exposed by DNA evidence.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5559042) |
Date: April 9th, 2006 12:20 PM Author: Ultramarine depressive
if this was reversed (black players & white women), how loud would the black community be shouting racism?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548442) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 12:47 PM Author: Alcoholic saffron reading party trailer park
He totally raped her.
hth
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548590) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:00 PM Author: abnormal senate gaping
lmao
so u think that tramp was raped, but this tramp wasn't?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548669) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:12 PM Author: abnormal senate gaping
it is so ridiculous.
i felt bad for the kobe woman at first until i found out she had been hot-tubbing it up, was going around bragging about the incident, didn't even bother denying resisting the initiation of sex and fucked her boyfriend the next day.
but, she was *obviously* raped.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548746) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:57 PM Author: Dull haunted graveyard
i think you completely missed the boat on this one. the guy asked if kobe would continue playing basketball when he gets out of jail as a rebuttal to the comment that if it had been a black team & white stripper, the black guys would already be in jail.
as the kobe case shows, black guy allegedly raping white girl =/= black guy immediately goes to jail.
please make your race look even dumber. thanks.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549011) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:59 PM Author: diverse casino
"as the kobe case shows, black guy allegedly raping white girl =/= black guy immediately goes to jail."
now tell me: would it be fair for me to call you stupid for not understanding the role money played in that case?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549029) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 2:02 PM Author: Dull haunted graveyard
proof? edit: not to mention he was eventually found not guilty.
my point stands.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549044) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 2:11 PM Author: diverse casino
haha, i guess it's fair then.
you're stupid. a discredit to your race. how the hell did you manage to pull that one off
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549104) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:18 PM Author: Alcoholic saffron reading party trailer park
She is a criminal, and an escort. A planned setup appears likely given the call (still not 100% sure, but time will tell). And now the rumor or report of photos that show the injuries BEFORE the alleged rape occurred.
Like I said, this case is looking like a big loser.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548780) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:25 PM Author: Flushed Sickened Windowlicker Garrison
"there's no apparent reason to frame a bunch of jewbag lacrosse players."
$$$.
"a better idea..."
Stop. This woman is a low rent stripper. There aren't many good ideas running around in her head in the first place.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548831) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:26 PM Author: Alcoholic saffron reading party trailer park
"this is one of those slam dunk cases all prosecutors salivate over."
Yeah, it's sure looking that way.
She's a prostitute.
She has a criminal history.
Her friend called before the rape with a phony story.
There may be photos that show her injuries present before the rape.
Looks like a REAL winner.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548840) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:34 PM Author: diverse casino
juries aren't sympathetic toward lying prostitutes.
juries are sympathetic toward gang raped escorts.
open. and. shut.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548885) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 3:02 PM Author: multi-colored space sound barrier
Why does her care?
He's actually being pretty objective on this thread, unlike some others.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549373) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:35 PM Author: Alcoholic saffron reading party trailer park
I can just imagine your opening statement where you tell the jury "there's really no reason to confuse prostitution and escort-ism."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548835)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548891)
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Date: April 9th, 2006 3:00 PM Author: multi-colored space sound barrier
"there's no apparent reason to frame a bunch of jewbag lacrosse players"
Money?
The fact they insulted you?
Two big reasons.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549366) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 2:01 PM Author: Dull haunted graveyard
please quit citing articles that are almost 2 weeks old. i don't think any of that stuff has even been mentioned recently.
whereas i -- and most rational people -- are open to the possibility that she may have been raped, and if she was then the rapists deserve to be punished, we are also aware of the GROWING amount of evidence that casts a large amount of suspicion on the entire case.
you -- and most irrational people -- seem completely closed to the possibility that perhaps a rape did not take place. again, in light of the facts, HOW CAN YOU NOT ADMIT THAT THERE IS AT LEAST A SMALL CHANCE THAT NO RAPE TOOK PLACE. quit posting, please.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549041) |
Date: April 9th, 2006 12:52 PM Author: diverse casino
calm down. they raped her. that's it. they couldn't keep their ttt hands off her. just because it's a bunch of white boys doesn't mean she's lying. and it also doesn't mean that the prosecutor is reverse-racist. get over it, douchebags: these fags are going to prison for 10 years apiece (at least). serves them right.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548625) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:07 PM Author: Honey-headed duck-like nursing home roast beef
Reverse racism in the past has referred to racism against whites because the majority of racism has been leveled against blacks. Today the reverse is true. Therefore "reverse racism" should refer to racism against blacks.
Your failure to see that this is what I meant leads me to believe you are in fact retarded.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548715) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:21 PM Author: Honey-headed duck-like nursing home roast beef
I just pwn3d you. hahahahaha.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548802)
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:20 PM Author: Drunken fortuitous meteor doctorate
"Today the reverse is true."
I don't suppose the fact that everyone knowledgeable on the topic would disagree with you is the least dissuasive, is it?
For example, I would feel like a huge idiot if I made a claim like, "one's success in his legal career is not at all impacted by the school he attends."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548792) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 3:05 PM Author: multi-colored space sound barrier
"Most racism today is against whites, not blacks, so I object to your term "reverse-racist"."
This is probably only true with regard to official discrimination.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549387) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 1:04 PM Author: Drunken fortuitous meteor doctorate
I don't reflexively agree with you, but this is TCR.
Photos? Well, I guess it depends on particulars, but if the defense case is, "she had a smile on her face when she arrived, ergo, she wasn't raped," that's pretty thin. Or, if it's "she was on the ground in the back when we threw her out on her ass," that's not good either.
I guess time will tell, but I'll owe those guys an apology if they didn't do it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548699) |
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Date: April 13th, 2007 11:58 PM Author: internet-worthy lodge mexican
"these fags are going to prison for 10 years apiece (at least)."
OH, YEAH?!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#7928616) |
Date: April 9th, 2006 1:28 PM Author: appetizing athletic conference feces
These girls have done a disservice to black strippers everywhere.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5548849) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 2:16 PM Author: Milky trip really tough guy
and to women everywhere
women who cry rape should be shot.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549129) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 3:13 PM Author: diverse casino
i seriously have never heard someone actually argue that a victim scratched her alleged rapist *on purpose* in order to later frame them for rape.
*shakes head*
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549430) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 3:32 PM Author: diverse casino
so an apparently uneducated, insane stripper is sophisticated enough to 1) identify a group of rich white men and successfully offer them her services and 2) strategically scratch them with the purpose of having those skin cells exhumed, DNA tested, and used to corroborate her false accusation of rape.
i honestly can't stand them.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549529) |
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Date: April 10th, 2006 11:53 PM Author: Curious crotch
"strategically scratch them with the purpose of having those skin cells exhumed, DNA tested, and used to corroborate her false accusation of rape."
Strom, what happened with those DNA results.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5559066) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 3:06 PM Author: multi-colored space sound barrier
The e-mail indicates that one player was unsatisifed.
The other evidence all needs to be examined further.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549396) |
Date: April 9th, 2006 2:27 PM Author: Translucent Water Buffalo Circlehead
If this chick did make this whole thing up (or grossly exagerate it to the point of making a non-criminal matter criminal), I hope they prosecute her.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549187) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 2:44 PM Author: Milky trip really tough guy Subject: If that chick *did* make this up...
I'd rather see her be shot.
Or raped for real.
Then she'd have something to cry about.
Let's wait and see how this ends up, though.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549276) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 3:14 PM Author: Milky trip really tough guy
Not to mention the effect that it has on the guy being accused.
GGRrrrr.
Sorry... I've had two guy friends that were accused of rape (neither actually did it). It really gets me fucking worked up.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549441) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 3:36 PM Author: Milky trip really tough guy
lol
dont get me started on this.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5549547) |
Date: May 12th, 2006 6:48 AM Author: Glittery azure forum
Hey, Strom, any updates?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=396922&forum_id=2#5770201) |
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