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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:25 PM Author: sapphire office Let's bash this TTT in decline. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5667805) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:28 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal aromatic lay sweet tailpipe psha... England is the essence of preftige (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5667846) |
Date: April 27th, 2006 10:25 PM Author: Infuriating yarmulke Fucking Redcoats! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5667809) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:10 PM Author: Concupiscible corner These fuckers think I am paying more for tea, they got another thing coming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668263) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 12:22 AM Author: nighttime histrionic candlestick maker toilet seat fuck with a motherfuckers tea and the shit be on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668984) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 11:18 AM Author: razzmatazz jet-lagged mediation Actually, the Tea Act removed taxes on British tea, making tea cheaper. AMERICANHISTORYPWNED!!1! |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 11:20 AM Author: abusive point Americans don't let facts get in the way of their wars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5671594) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 2:13 PM Author: Concupiscible corner We didn't want those assholes running us out of the market with their cheap ass, inferior tea. They were wal-marting us mom and pop tea growers before it was cool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5672893) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:28 PM Author: abusive point The UK is much more prestigious than the U.S. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5667842) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:29 PM Author: Infuriating yarmulke This indicates otherwise ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41016000/jpg/_41016029_blessing300.jpg |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:31 PM Author: abusive point You did not take this into account:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=miserable+failure&btnG=Google+Search |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:31 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal aromatic lay sweet tailpipe not like our figurehead is much better:
besides, camilla...yeah, England's still not the warmest towards her |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:31 PM Author: sapphire office How? They basically tag along with Bush whenever he does anything retarded just so they can pretend they still have an empire.
As for any other measure of prestige, Oxford is FAR beneath Harvard in TTT-ness. And the degree of pretentiousness makes popping your collar look downright democratic. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:33 PM Author: abusive point "They basically tag along with Bush whenever he does anything retarded just so they can pretend they still have an empire."
Should they tag along with "Old Europe" instead?
"Oxford is FAR beneath Harvard in TTT-ness"
All of the prestigious posters on this site agree that Harvard is inferior to Oxbridge.
"And the degree of pretentiousness makes popping your collar look downright democratic."
2500 years of history cannot be pretentious. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:35 PM Author: sapphire office "2500 years of history cannot be pretentious."
For 2300 of those years, England was the Cooley of Europe.
As for what nation the English should tag along with, they'd be better off admitting they're worthless the way all of Old Europe besides France did long ago. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:37 PM Author: abusive point For its 400 year history, America was the Cooley of the World for 350 of those years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5667952) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:40 PM Author: sapphire office True, but then we saved civilization from the Germans, the Japanese, and the Russians, occupied an overseas empire and rebuilt it in our own image (I mean Germany and Japan, not Iraq).
The English, on the other hand, sent a few traders to India and claimed that it was part of their empire. The Raj was a load of shit. Oh, and they tried to force Egypt to give them back the Suez Canal in the 1950s only to be pwn3d by...oh yeah, AMERICA FUCK YEAH |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:41 PM Author: abusive point Did your parents immigrate from Europe in the post-WW2 era? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5667985) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:45 PM Author: sapphire office No, actually my family has been here for the past 350 years. Nice try though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668023) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:50 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal aromatic lay sweet tailpipe psah - young-blood immigrants. 376 years here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668061) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:56 PM Author: sapphire office New England or Virginia? Just curious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668107) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:57 PM Author: abusive point A plantation I think. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668136) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:04 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal aromatic lay sweet tailpipe New England. Hello Winthrop! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668209) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:08 PM Author: sapphire office Tight. We were down in VA at the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668246) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:09 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal aromatic lay sweet tailpipe damn. hardy souls i tell ye (as a W&M history student, i've read far too much shit about what they had to go through back then) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668256) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:11 PM Author: sapphire office It worked out in the end though. Made some money, bought a bunch of slaves...then the yankees pwn3d us. But, I had an ancestor who rode around McClellan with Jeb.
W&M is where I took the LSAT. Nice place. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:23 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal aromatic lay sweet tailpipe yeah sorry about the 1860s pwning (though, to be honest, i had ancestors on both sides of the same battles). and yeah, W&M is a darn purty place to be. unless it's spring and pollen is ruining your lungs like it is now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668400) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 12:01 AM Author: high-end elastic band community account Anyone who can't trace it back at least 386 years (hint: Mayflower) is TTT.
EDIT: 1630 is okay if you can go back to John Winthrop. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:50 PM Author: abusive point "True, but then we saved civilization from the Germans, the Japanese, and the Russians, occupied an overseas empire and rebuilt it in our own image (I mean Germany and Japan, not Iraq)."
The Russians did a lot more to stop Germany than the US ever did. The US only fought Japan because they were dumb enough to bomb the US. The Soviet Union was never a serious threat to the World. For most of the Cold War, the US was the USSR's bitch in spite of a vastly superior economy.
I should mention Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq. Those were amazing wars. The US likes losing to TTT countries. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:53 PM Author: sapphire office "the US was the USSR's bitch" -- facts?
Korea -- militarily we kicked ass in that war. MacArthur had already conquered all Korea and was about to deal with China as well until Truman stabbed him in the back.
Ok, so, Vietnam didn't really work out. As for Iraq, whose fault is the ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST today?? Oh yeah, BRITAIN. Read up on your post-WWI history. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:57 PM Author: abusive point "the US was the USSR's bitch" -- facts?
Kind of pathetic that the US was in an arms race with such a TTT nation. This never should have happened.
"Korea -- militarily we kicked ass in that war. MacArthur had already conquered all Korea and was about to deal with China as well until Truman stabbed him in the back."
It was not as bad as Iraq or Vietnam, but North Korea still fell to the Commies.
"Oh yeah, BRITAIN. Read up on your post-WWI history."
The middle-east can be blamed on a lot of countries. Who supported Israel all these years? |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:00 PM Author: sapphire office Exactly, the USSR was a complete TTT. Our voters/politicians got irrationally worried...so, your point is??
Korea -- yeah, fell to the commies because of Truman. Not because we hadn't already won the war.
Israel -- actually their initial backers were...ENGLAND. But Iraq specifically was a pure British creation. Great job they did too. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:07 PM Author: abusive point "Exactly, the USSR was a complete TTT. Our voters/politicians got irrationally worried...so, your point is??"
You claimed that the US saved the world from Germany, Japan, and Russia (USSR). A lot of countries won the war against Germany, Japan was probably screwed anyway after Germany fell, and the USSR was too much of a TTT to matter. None of these wins gave the US much prestige.
"Korea -- yeah, fell to the commies because of Truman. Not because we hadn't already won the war."
It doesn't matter how it happened. It only matters that it did. Truman was a US president. That is important.
"Israel -- actually their initial backers were...ENGLAND. But Iraq specifically was a pure British creation. Great job they did too."
I think we can agree that a lot of countries screwed up the middle-east. It was not just a British problem. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:14 PM Author: sapphire office WWII -- agreed, we had a lot of help. But, if the Russians had occupied Japan, their infantry would have raped everyone and then set up a bigger version of North Korea. Thanks to MacArthur and USA, none of this happened.
Middle East -- yeah, how can you not screw up when the groundwork for the region (mandates etc) was laid in such a shitty fashion? |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:47 PM Author: drab sanctuary "All of the prestigious posters on this site agree that Harvard is inferior to Oxbridge."
false. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:33 PM Author: amber costumed reading party menage the english are definitely the physically ugliest peoples of europe, and it may be the most overpriced country in the world, though japan probably wins there.
the weather sucks, too, as does the strange obsession with class. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:34 PM Author: ruby pontificating pit degenerate notable exceptions are Elizabeth Hurley and Kate Beckinsale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5667926) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:36 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal aromatic lay sweet tailpipe yeah, keira knightly is so fucking heinous. damn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5667942) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:41 PM Author: sapphire office "strange obsession with class." Amen. I fucking hate those "posh" English kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5667988) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 2:42 PM Author: mind-boggling gay windowlicker native we've got that too. look at pensive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5673170) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:37 PM Author: aphrodisiac shrine Not me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5667949) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:38 PM Author: Narrow-minded dog poop Best music ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5667960) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:52 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal aromatic lay sweet tailpipe titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668079) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:55 PM Author: sapphire office Besides Handel and the Darkness, I have no idea what music you are talking about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668099) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:57 PM Author: Narrow-minded dog poop The Jam (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668121) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:06 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal aromatic lay sweet tailpipe take a magical trip back to the swingin' 60s and you'll see...The Animals, Cream, the Beatles, the Stones, the Who, Led Zeppelin, Donovan, the Kinks, Jimi Hendrix (who had to go to England to be appreciated), etc etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668229) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:09 PM Author: sapphire office Ok good point. I stand corrected. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668260) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:09 PM Author: amber costumed reading party menage i agree in essence, but remember:
- all of these groups played music based on american styles
- the previous 400 years saw little or no english contribution to music, while the italians, german, russians and even french produced many great composers. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:15 PM Author: sapphire office They were good imitators at least, give credit where credit is due.
Thank goodness, someone else on xo who knows classical music. The English didn't contribute shit. Handel was German. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:30 PM Author: Excitant location totally agree (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668464) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:40 PM Author: vivacious love of her life fortuitous meteor they are actually really nice people. oh, and they know a thing or two about music and literature. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5667975) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:41 PM Author: mint principal's office i have english citizenship and will be moving there to escape the crippling debt i've collected over the years. every single time i visit i am blown away by how fucking stupid the average person is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5667987) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:42 PM Author: Narrow-minded dog poop You're blown away by how stupid the average English person is? Odd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5667992) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:44 PM Author: sapphire office They're pretty stupid. Ever hang out with a chav? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668008) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:55 PM Author: Narrow-minded dog poop Nope. My interaction with English people has been pretty much limited to the internet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668104) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:57 PM Author: sapphire office Oh, ok, chavs don't know how to type. Otherwise known as yobs. They wear fake Burberry plaid, tracksuits, and they like beating people's asses at football matches or just anywhere.
Recent estimates show that they make up about 50% of the English population. |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 2:47 PM Author: mind-boggling gay windowlicker native why do they call them chavs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5673232) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:51 PM Author: mint principal's office when i was 12, kids my age couldn't read watches unless they were digital. it was the saddest thing ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668073) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:43 PM Author: sapphire office Your debt will only get worse paying three times as much for everything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668001) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:49 PM Author: vibrant domesticated keepsake machete tanning salon Only true if his loans were denominated in pound sterling.
Edit: What a prestigious name for a currency. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:53 PM Author: mint principal's office fuck london. shit in the villages is reasonable -- i'll chill and live off my trust fund until my inheritance comes through. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668088) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:04 PM Author: sapphire office England has villages.
Ladies and gentlemen, the argument is over. England = 3RDWORLDCOUNTRYPWN3D |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:08 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal aromatic lay sweet tailpipe we have trailer parks. what's your point? villages are "quaint" - we still have some up in New England and elsewhere (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668253) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:16 PM Author: sapphire office does England not have trailer parks?
PS as a guy who's spent a lot of time in Russia, let me tell you, villages are NOT "quaint." They suck. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:18 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone You've never seen and English village, have you?
Rural England is very different from rural America (or Russia or most other places). For starters, there's quite a lot of money in rural England. Manors, great estates, large farms. In part because of that, a decent bit of culture and polite society exists in rural England that one can't find in the US, with the exception of certain parts of New England.
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:22 PM Author: sapphire office Yes, I have. They're about as close to real villages as the outlying suburbs of any major American city. America just has more space for people with shittier standards of living to fill up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668377) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:27 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone *rolls eyes*
Your post just shows how ignorant you are of the English countryside. Seeing one or two places just outside London hardly counts as a representation of rural England as seeing one or two quaint New England towns a representation of rural America.
There is no, and I repeat, no similarity between most American small towns and English villages. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:42 PM Author: Saffron gunner trailer park england is simply too small to have any sort of real "rural" culture. everywhere is within a short drive of a major city you can shoot across the motorway from coast to coast in jut a few hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668580) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 1:07 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone Ever been to Scotland or Cumbria or the Peak district? Trust me, rural England very much exists (oh, maybe not on the lines of Montana, but then again most of rural America isn't as extreme as Montana, and actually, much of Montana and Wyoming is unbelievably boring and monotonous).
England is no doubt a small island, but the sheer variety of countryside within such a restricted area can be very impressive.
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:11 PM Author: Glittery fantasy-prone plaza this is a new and interesting plan. can a chicky come along? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668279) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:13 PM Author: mint principal's office bien sur. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668295) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:44 PM Author: Red provocative chad i dig girls with english accents. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668016) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:46 PM Author: sapphire office They suck in bed though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668030) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:46 PM Author: drab sanctuary false. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668036) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:47 PM Author: Red provocative chad haven't had the experience yet :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668042) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 3:49 PM Author: exciting volcanic crater prole Untrue. Compared to "Lake Placid" uptight american chicks, brit girls are mindblowing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5673797) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 10:56 PM Author: ruby pontificating pit degenerate They have better Special Forces units than we do. At least they've had successful missions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668117) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:03 PM Author: sapphire office You know, I have heard this argument before. We should have a war sometime...oh wait England has no oil or other useful natural resources. Maybe we'll conquer them for Welsh coal supplies once the world runs out of oil forever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668195) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:05 PM Author: ruby pontificating pit degenerate maybe we should "conquer" Iraq first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668222) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:07 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone The English have the North Sea oil. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668238) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:11 PM Author: amber costumed reading party menage for another decade or so... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668272) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:14 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone And then what?
The English are also on much better terms with the Arab nations than the Americans are. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:17 PM Author: amber costumed reading party menage i believe it is generally noted that north sea reserves will be exhausted in the next decade or so. as for your other point, yes, a 3'4" midget is indeed taller than a 3'2" midget. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668321) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 3:57 PM Author: exciting volcanic crater prole And the North Sea Oil has been "about to run out in the next decade or so" since the 1930s. Biggest TTT lack of education type urban myth around.
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:18 PM Author: Saffron gunner trailer park what kind of ignorant-ass statement is this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668334) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:21 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone Why do you say that? For starters, the country (its population regardless of certain political leaders) have long held a pro-palestinian bent.
There is a huge community of rich Arabs living in London, which you do not find in America at all. And large communities of ex-pat Brits living in parts of the middle east, mostly in connection with the oil industry.
I won't deny that there have been incidents, especially between working class English chavs and yobs, and the immigrant, mostly Paki, muslim community. But upper class England and its finance community have long worked with the rich arab nations.
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:22 PM Author: abusive point This is all true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668381) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:25 PM Author: sapphire office America's entire upper class "works" with rich Arab nations. We even hold hands with them on nationally-televised news reports. That doesn't equal good relations, though.
Until Bush, our Arabs all voted Republican. So, at least they VOTED like they were prosperous.
Cowering in barbed-wire-enclosed oil compounds is also not the same thing as "living" in a country.
PS I love chavs |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 2:51 PM Author: mind-boggling gay windowlicker native they voted republican because until bush, it was the dems who were in the israel lobby's pocket, not the republicans. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5673276) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:29 PM Author: Saffron gunner trailer park oil is a global commodity, dumbass. the uk's "relations" with arab countries are going to be irrelevant to the worldwide market price of oil. the uk is hated widely because of iraq, hell, muslims even bombed london's subway system. they haven't even done that in america. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668450) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:33 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone Muslins blew up the world trade center. Much more impressive than the London subway bombing (Bin Laden hasn't targeted London so far, it was the work of an isolated group of people).
The UK isn't hated widely just because a few ignorant muslims blew up a subway and a bus in London (I was actually in London on that day)-America is. Go to the middle east. Look at all the protestors. What flags are they defacing? Whose political leaders are they denouncing in effigy? For every Union Jack you'll find a thousand American flags. Actually, reports coming out of Iraq all consistently reveal that the Iraqi like the British soldiers far better than the American soldiers, in part because the former treats the Iraqi much better than the latter.
The Iraq war is hugely, and I mean hugely, unpopular in Britain. It almost completely discredited Tony Blair and he's been crippled because of the unpopularity of the war.
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:35 PM Author: Saffron gunner trailer park "Actually, reports coming out of Iraq all consistently reveal that the Iraqi like the British soldiers far better than the American soldiers, in part because the former treats the Iraqi much better than the latter."
actually, when the brits rotated the black watch north into baghdad for a little while to cross-train with the americans, ragheads promptly blew up four of them. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:35 PM Author: sapphire office The reason people burn American flags is because *NEWSFLASH* we're a SUPERPOWER.
Nobody gives a shit about England enough to buy their flag and then burn it. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:36 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone Well, the point was that the mid east doesn't hate the English to the degree that America is hated.
The mid-east certainly burned enough Dannish flags. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:39 PM Author: sapphire office Actually, the point here is that England is TTT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668542) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:41 PM Author: Saffron gunner trailer park i think americans will be harassed about their nationality way more in the UK itself than in syria or iran. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668558) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:42 PM Author: sapphire office TITCR
I hate jealousy. Get over your lost empire already. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:07 PM Author: Excitant location no, it allows me to have "foreign" tastes without the soul-crushing work of understanding other cultures and languages (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668241) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:12 PM Author: amber costumed reading party menage western europe is a giant cultural colony of the usa, to pretend otherwise is a bit pretentious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668285) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:16 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone Should we be proud of our McDonalds and Hollywood movies? No doubt much of the world eagerly consumes certain key American products, but it is rather arrogant to call Western Europe a cultural colony of the USA, especially when the American intellegentsia is still in thralls with European high culture.
My grandfather, a conservative republican who is in his nineties, believes America has been colonised by its own mass culture and industries. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:20 PM Author: amber costumed reading party menage "intellegentsia"... even when spelled right, such a thing doesn't exist in this country. that's the point. nor does 'european high culture' still exist except as a reproduction of the works of long-dead artists. there hasn't been a new continental european opera of significance written since puccini croaked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668353) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:25 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone Spent any time in New York? Educated Americans with a bent towards the arts is what I call the intelligentsia in this country, and they're quite a sizeable group of people mostly concentrated in the large cities. College professors also tend to fall into this group. My father is a professor and while he isn't an anglophile (thanks to having lived in England), most of his peers at Hopkins are always going over to Europe every summer to go to operas and museums and theatres.
Has a great opera been produced in America? What great artistic tradition is coming out of the states these days?
For the English I'll offer BBC, even in its current condition, which produces movies that are on the whole of a higher bent than America's hollywood. And British stage is regarded without peer. Most European countries (far more so than England) heavily subsidize their artistic tradition, and you may sneer at them, but there's no denying a tremendous and rich artistic tradition and heritage exists in Europe that is better appreciated by its population than in the States. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:30 PM Author: amber costumed reading party menage of course I've been to new york. one side of my family is from that town. there's enough money to buy trophies that give a veneer of 'culture', but it is no more than that, a thin layer disguising the same gaudy tastes that you find everywhere in the lower 48.
i've heard bad rap in german, hungarian, french... i'm not saying it is a good thing, but american crap culture dominates europe. much as the musc of rossini was inescapable around the globe in the 19th century, so has american popular music dominated european tastes since WW1. as for the BBC - please. i remember staring with disbelief at british TVs with all of 4 channells as a child... pathetic, really.
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:32 PM Author: sapphire office Spent any time at Lincoln Center while you were in New York? They produce great operas/plays/ballets there constantly.
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:34 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone He was arguing "new" opera, not reproductions of old ones.
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:47 PM Author: sapphire office How many "new" operas that don't suck have come out of Britain lately? How "new" is any decent opera these days? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668617) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:27 PM Author: sapphire office NOAHWEBSTERPWN3D!
Intelligentsia these days consists of either a) government sponsored ideologues or b) hippies from liberal-arts colleges who think wearing hemp shirts makes them culturally aware. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:50 PM Author: gaped multi-colored pistol "Should we be proud of our McDonalds and Hollywood movies?"
Hell yeah. |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 12:15 AM Author: Excitant location i was more or less joking, but each western european country seems to still have some recognizable feature of its culture that makes it french, or english, whatever....While the popular culture is really dominated by the US, there's still a lot that they offer with regards to sport, music, and the history and lifestyle from one country to another seems different as well
this could all be bullshit though, I've never gotten the chance to travel to any of these places and see what it's really like |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:14 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone I have lived in Britain and have family in Britain.
The English middle classes (by which they mean the upper middle classes) are quite a friendly, educated, knowledgeable group of people, and more "aware" of current events than the corresponding American social class. It's rather hard to meet the real English because they aren't the warmest people, but once you do it can completely change your perception of the country.
However, England suffers from having a large population of boorish working class chavs. Some aren't bad, especially those in rural areas, but the ones in the city are almost enough to drive any reasonable person away from England.
And I also find frustrating the English obsession with national decline, which is rather ironic for several reasons. One, they certainly do have one of the most prosperous economies in Europe and the world (especially since the Germans are in a fast sinking ship) and a standard of living that is, especially in the south of England, very high, and London is without question one of the twin financial capitals of the world (other is New York). Second, the average Englishman today has a much better life than the average Englishman during the days of the empire.
I assume much of this obsession stems from that the country has lost much of no-nonsense arrogance and confidence that permeated England in the 19th century. OF course, two major world wars (which hit Britain far harder, both economically and population losses, than America), and a poorly decided flirtation with socialism during the 1940s that crippled English industry for the next half century hardly helped.
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:33 PM Author: Saffron gunner trailer park why is the BNP suddenly gaining such popularity? polls reveal higher levels of support than ever before. i think that britons freaked out once they realized brit-born ragheads bombed their tube, and not some jihadi foreigners. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668482) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:34 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone Working class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668488) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:36 PM Author: Saffron gunner trailer park why are blacks violent in england, too?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/4712686.stm
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:37 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone There are great many similarities between lower class people all over the world, particularly between the English and American lower classes. Uneducated. Prone to violence. Poor public behavior. |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:41 PM Author: sapphire office Wow, guess I don't have to argue that the English are stuck-up pricks anymore. You saved me some time. Thanks brah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668557) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 1:04 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone What's your fucking problem? No one here is arguing that the English are the best people in the world. But it's rather ludicrious to hold the Americans as an example to emulate above the western Europeans. Last I checked, America was home to a very large poor underclass as well...and our violent crime rate is the shame of the western world.
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:21 PM Author: aquamarine hateful useless brakes parlor Nah, England's cool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668368) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:27 PM Author: Excitant location inventors of soccer, rugby, and cricket.....they've made up some good sports as well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668436) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:32 PM Author: amber costumed reading party menage this is true, and they should be given credit for indirectly creating modern american football and baseball indirectly via rugby and cricket. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668477) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:33 PM Author: sapphire office I hope that's irony right there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668484) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:37 PM Author: Excitant location no, I enjoy watching all three....although i don't know too many of the rules in rugby (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668520) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:38 PM Author: amber costumed reading party menage it's basically an endless kickoff return (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668532) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:41 PM Author: sapphire office kickoff returns are awesome though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668562) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:43 PM Author: amber costumed reading party menage this is true. the pacing of american football is fairly horrible. world cup in 6 weeks!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668582) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:43 PM Author: Excitant location it seems like football with a little less of the brain and strategy used, but that's probably due to the continous nature of the game....i'd assume that it would become as complex as football with playcalling and such if they had as many number of timeouts and stoppages of play (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668583) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:45 PM Author: amber costumed reading party menage not just the clock, but usa football also has an absurd level of specialization. in rugby, you have a couple of types of forwards and a couple of types of wings, but almost everyone needs to be able to tackle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668600) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:53 PM Author: Excitant location yeah i'm not a big fan of specialization, as in most sports it creates a very one-dimensional style of play which is not as interesting to me as seeing a team with players that have a complete skill set and provide the coach with much more creative options (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668672) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:54 PM Author: amber costumed reading party menage yup, there's a reason that usa football is the only major american sport not wildly beloved overseas. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668689) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:59 PM Author: Excitant location much of it is probably due to its very american sort of marketing....with cheerleaders, coors light, and hank williams jr. The game and its association doesn't relate to a foreign viewer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668733) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 12:01 AM Author: amber costumed reading party menage it's just a hard sell across the board - the specialization of extreme physical types, the strange rules, the helmets and pads, the goalposts, the neurotic relationship to a clock... compare it to putting together a pickup soccer, basketball or baseball game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668758) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 3:02 AM Author: Dull disgusting market Yeah, I once tried to teach a crowd of reasonably intelligent internationals how to play football and it was surprisingly difficult. And then after the game a Chinese girl who was watching asked if we were playing baseball. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5669986) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:45 PM Author: sapphire office also is far stronger in the ghey-love category than American football. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668602) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:49 PM Author: amber costumed reading party menage i don't know, nfl pants are pretty tight and shiny, and every play starts with a guy bent over a squatting dude. good plays are often greeted with pats on the ass as well. also, let's not forget that 2 positions are called 'wide receiver' and 'tight end'. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668635) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:41 PM Author: Saffron gunner trailer park there's a reason they call it blighty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668564) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:49 PM Author: gaped multi-colored pistol England will be "cool" when the Gulf Stream stops flowing past them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668640) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 11:52 PM Author: sapphire office I laughed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668668) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 12:14 AM Author: crawly garnet state mad-dog skullcap It was a great place until it got over run with Arabs and Pakistanis. Now the PC shit is digusting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5668911) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 12:22 AM Author: high-end elastic band community account Subject: I disagree Parts of England are very prestigious.
The Southeast is like New England/NYC: prestigious and cultured, with lots of tradition, but also lots of chavs.
The rest of England and Scotland is probably more like upstate NY/PA/the rest of the East Coast: lots of tradition, but poorer and less cultured.
Then there are Liverpool and Glasgow: England's answers to Detroit and Cleveland. |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 2:59 AM Author: Dull disgusting market Glasgow's supposed to be happening these days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5669971) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 3:24 AM Author: Coral twinkling uncleanness Was Detroit ever a "Capital of Culture"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5670101) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 3:42 AM Author: Excitant location the last three capitals of culture were Petras, Cork, Genoa and Lille
it's not an award for having great culture but more an opportunity for a city to present what it has for continental exposure.
And with stereotypes of druggies, hubcap thieves and welfare dependency....it couldn't come too soon for Liverpool
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Date: April 28th, 2006 3:46 AM Author: diverse generalized bond alpha correct, capital of culture is a joke why not just givt it to limerick? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5670208) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 3:46 PM Author: Coral twinkling uncleanness I was kidding mate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5673775) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 4:12 PM Author: Trip Massive University Striped Hyena That be 4.....
And Roy Keane is from Cork. Hardly a role model for culture. |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 3:00 AM Author: Dull disgusting market Personally, I hate Australia. Every Australian I've met has been stupid, drunk, and unhot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5669974) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 3:31 AM Author: diverse generalized bond alpha all of ireland does (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5670136) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 3:47 AM Author: Pink hunting ground AMERICA RULES! OUR BEATLES ARE WAY BETTER THAN YOUR PRECIOUS ROLLING STONES! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5670211) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 10:57 AM Author: galvanic piazza idiot London is the least friendly major city in Europe. You'll find friendlier attitudes in fucking Berlin, Dublin, Edinburgh, Paris, fucking Moscow, and just about everywhere else. It is also insanely overpriced. So is Paris, but at least the food's good there. |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 11:03 AM Author: effete cuckoldry False.
Everyone was nice to me. |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 12:58 PM Author: galvanic piazza idiot That's just cuz you're handsome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5672280) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 10:59 AM Author: Cyan Duck-like French Chef Partner They eat baked beans for breakfast. Gross. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5671467) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 2:11 PM Author: Trip Massive University Striped Hyena You don't have proper baked beans. Grosser. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5672877) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 11:04 AM Author: effete cuckoldry Wars with Argentina are pretty TTT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5671498) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 12:11 PM Author: Dull disgusting market Argentina started it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5671957) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 12:55 PM Author: effete cuckoldry "two bald men arguing over a comb" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5672245) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 12:29 PM Author: Marvelous people who are hurt telephone This thread is incredibly stupid. Attack the one country that actually supports America, thick and thin?
Attack the English when the bulk of Americans are fat, lazy, overweight, ugly, boorish lower middle class suburbanites who put in their forty hour week pushing useless paper at a TTT company and celebrate the weekend by going to the Macaroni Grill?
And for those of you doing the attacking-What have *you* done to make America the world's foremost economic and political superpower? Most of us only have the sheer luck of having been born in the US and most of us are parasites whose current spending habits are only a detriment to this country's long term future.
Nationalism can be such an incredibly stupid passion. Sorry to break the news to you guys, but the majority of Americans are in reality no different from the majority of the English or Canadians or French or Germans or Italians or Australians or Japanese. Boring, useless, middle class people in suburbia living boring, useless, TTT lives.
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Date: April 28th, 2006 12:57 PM Author: Dull disgusting market Scots are supposed to hate England too, play along. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5672267) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 12:59 PM Author: Adventurous ebony tank Britons HATE Americans:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4881474.stm |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 1:00 PM Author: Dull disgusting market Who doesn't? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5672296) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 1:11 PM Author: Saffron gunner trailer park israel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5672402) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 1:14 PM Author: Dull disgusting market That leaves 175 other countries. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5672422) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 2:10 PM Author: Trip Massive University Striped Hyena I think they hate Bush. Its unfortunate they see Americans as representing what Bush stands for. It doesn't matter where you are from if you are in the wrong pub. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5672875) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 12:30 PM Author: navy shitlib bawdyhouse definitely not my favorite place to visit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5672058) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 12:54 PM Author: Dull disgusting market Which countries are? Few cities compare to London and the countryside is beautiful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5672239) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 1:13 PM Author: sepia spectacular turdskin Never been there, which is sort of bizarre. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5672412) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 1:41 PM Author: Mildly autistic outnumbered brethren 1.Mischa Barton pwns Keira Knightley (though Mischa was born in England) 2.Newcastle pwns Bud 3."Football" pwns Football 4.Blair pwns Bush 5.Taco Bell pwns Fish and Chips 6.Jaguar (though ford owned) pwns Cadillac 7.Both Mexicans and Turks/Pakis suck 8.London pwns New York (ie, ppl in public are assholes) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 3:49 PM Author: Coral twinkling uncleanness taco bell? fish and chips pwns everything, boy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5673799) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 4:14 PM Author: Trip Massive University Striped Hyena Prawn Cocktail crisps pwn pretty much everything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=406892&forum_id=2#5674003) |
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Date: April 28th, 2006 3:59 PM Author: exciting volcanic crater prole Mischa Barton looks like Skeletor on crack.
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