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DBG, what is a "Chabad" center?

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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/11/18
It's for the first to be cleansed
exhilarant mustard pit
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Vibrant Ruby Senate
  10/11/18
For the guys that failed to serve in the IDF?
Hideous Talented Hairy Legs
  10/11/18
This. Crazies and parasits
Territorial Pervert
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
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bright adventurous ape
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/11/18
no. chabad has nothing to do with the IDF one way or another...
electric french chef
  10/11/18
Chabad is basically an outreach organization and there are C...
electric french chef
  10/11/18
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/11/18
They’re lubavich. You can google this shit instead of ...
violent brilliant trailer park
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/11/18
google/wikipedia doesnt clearly and simply explain stuff lik...
electric french chef
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/11/18
yeah, wikipedia is way too dry and technical at the expense ...
electric french chef
  10/11/18
If you let people add color to Wikipedia articles it'll beco...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/12/18
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odious fighting meetinghouse legal warrant
  10/12/18
they're 100% ortho. not reform at all. they're very welcomin...
electric french chef
  10/11/18
Are they the same people that drive around in vans around NY...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
Yeah, they can’t proselytize to non-Jews so they prose...
violent brilliant trailer park
  10/11/18
except unlike the goyim who starve each other, chabad lures ...
electric french chef
  10/11/18
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/11/18
The failure here is that Jewish food is awful. Also, Chur...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
no goy biglawyer in MFH can get a respectable free meal from...
electric french chef
  10/11/18
they offer food because they can prosletyze, i suspect. a...
violent brilliant trailer park
  10/11/18
Of course, Christian charity comes with a "praise Jesus...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/11/18
Come to think of it, I probably shouldn't have told that sto...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/11/18
Ty.
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
the difference is that jews giving other jews free food/booz...
electric french chef
  10/11/18
Churches have that too, of course, but Christians think prov...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
>>they can’t proselytize to non-Jews What doe...
flatulent institution friendly grandma
  10/11/18
exactly. the twist is that jews can convert -- but converts ...
electric french chef
  10/11/18
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flatulent institution friendly grandma
  10/11/18
Oh, I know this one. They accept converts but they won't ac...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
credited as to all but the last sentence. the last senten...
electric french chef
  10/11/18
Right, but the rule sticking came out of killing all the Jew...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/12/18
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/12/18
are you talking about shit like this: https://en.wikipedi...
electric french chef
  10/11/18
Yep, exactly what I was talking about. "in the shor...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
here's how it works. a huge part of what chabad does is on c...
electric french chef
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/11/18
l'chaim. the idea is that every jew has a jewish soul, a...
electric french chef
  10/11/18
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/11/18
l'chaim! was there a kars4kids bumper sticker too?
electric french chef
  10/11/18
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/11/18
Yep, credit to DBG. They are weird as fuck but weird is int...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
Right, so each instance is part of that slippery slope. Yea...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/11/18
i'm sure someone has good data on "returners," but...
electric french chef
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/11/18
Disagree. Aging does weird shit to people and if you grow u...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
i see what you're saying, but kids who got dragged to hebrew...
electric french chef
  10/11/18
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/11/18
But aren't you basically proof of my point? You're now an O...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
yes, i am proof of your point. but i'm just one data point. ...
electric french chef
  10/11/18
"my point is that i suspect that you might not find muc...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
because you still know you're jewish and your name is cohen,...
electric french chef
  10/11/18
Ok, except this ignores that the number of Jews who stay Jew...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
yes, true, very very few jews who didnt grow up orthodox are...
electric french chef
  10/11/18
There are seriously people who didn't grow up with Judaism t...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
yes, lots of ppl from the FSUs, included.
electric french chef
  10/11/18
These people must be from the most TTT places imaginable. L...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/12/18
most are ukrainian, belarusian, or russian
electric french chef
  10/12/18
I don't for a second believe a Russian would do this.
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/12/18
what about goyim? are we welcome?
odious fighting meetinghouse legal warrant
  10/12/18
nope, sorry
electric french chef
  10/12/18
Long story short: They want to make Jews Jewwier.
Khaki bat shit crazy market
  10/11/18
Right, the Jews get Jewier until the SuperJew (the Messiah) ...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
woah, rare credited poast from tmf.
electric french chef
  10/11/18
Ty. XO has increased my interest in exactly what Judaism is...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
Pro tip: it’s your religion too ape.
racy demanding rehab half-breed
  10/11/18
Don't tell TMF, our bort THEOLOGIAN
Khaki bat shit crazy market
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electric french chef
  10/11/18
lolno.
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/11/18
you dont know anything about xtianity
insecure useless brakes
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
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Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/12/18
The First Stop on the coming Cleansing of America Tour
exhilarant mustard pit
  10/11/18
lulz
Indigo site kitty
  10/11/18
They are a wacko cult like Christianity or Scientology that ...
Cordovan Hall Really Tough Guy
  10/12/18
"They are a wacko cult like Christianity" LMAO,...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/12/18
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azure startled brethren tanning salon
  10/12/18
Every major southern city is full of normal, secular Christi...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/12/18
Christianity is a cult subset of Judaism. Is that state...
Cordovan Hall Really Tough Guy
  10/12/18
Yes, it is wrong. Christianity is fundamentally different t...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/12/18
Like Islam?
Cordovan Hall Really Tough Guy
  10/12/18
Islam is another middle-eastern religion that sucks, yes.
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/12/18
What would happen if you're a goy who pretends to be Jewish ...
insanely creepy boltzmann locale
  10/12/18
rabbi will be suspicious if you have a goy name and look goy
electric french chef
  10/12/18
Plenty of white-looking Jews out there
insanely creepy boltzmann locale
  10/12/18
Also, a bunch of Jews I know have totally normal American na...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/12/18
I question this because in the YouTube video I watched on th...
Costumed alcoholic roast beef
  10/12/18
no, they're jews. they figured it was good press.
odious fighting meetinghouse legal warrant
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insecure useless brakes
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Date: October 11th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37001125)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: exhilarant mustard pit

It's for the first to be cleansed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002442)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 10:33 PM
Author: Vibrant Ruby Senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005067)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 12:37 PM
Author: Hideous Talented Hairy Legs

For the guys that failed to serve in the IDF?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37001149)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 12:39 PM
Author: Territorial Pervert

This. Crazies and parasits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37001158)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37001168)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 12:40 PM
Author: bright adventurous ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37001159)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37001165)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: electric french chef

no. chabad has nothing to do with the IDF one way or another.

there are probably very few ultraortho chabadniks in the IDF just like there are very few ultraorthos of any sort in the IDF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002258)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 1:15 PM
Author: electric french chef

Chabad is basically an outreach organization and there are Chabad all over the world for various purposes. There are Chabads in third world shitholes for tourists to be able to get kosher food and Shabbat. Chabads on every college campus etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37001376)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37001893)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: violent brilliant trailer park

They’re lubavich. You can google this shit instead of distracting dbg from stoking antisemitism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37001912)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 2:34 PM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37001923)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: electric french chef

google/wikipedia doesnt clearly and simply explain stuff like this. easier to ask a jew to explain the big picture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002196)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002206)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: electric french chef

yeah, wikipedia is way too dry and technical at the expense of being useful. aspies ruined it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002228)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:28 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

If you let people add color to Wikipedia articles it'll become a complete shitshow overnight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002287)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005844)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: odious fighting meetinghouse legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005935)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: electric french chef

they're 100% ortho. not reform at all. they're very welcoming and inclusive and tolerant, though. they'll encourage you to drive to them for shabbat services and lunch and then go watch a college football game after, if they know you wouldn't otherwise go to shul/lunch at all. any jew is welcome and they play the long game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002210)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Are they the same people that drive around in vans around NYC city and ask everyone if they're Jewish?

Also, is their point to basically find non-religious Jews and make them religious?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002223)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: violent brilliant trailer park

Yeah, they can’t proselytize to non-Jews so they proselytize to lapsed Jews.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002233)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: electric french chef

except unlike the goyim who starve each other, chabad lures you in with food and booze

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002249)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:25 PM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:26 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

The failure here is that Jewish food is awful.

Also, Churches feed many, many people. Many operate soup kitchens and homeless shelters. I don't think I've ever seen a Jewish soup kitchen or homeless shelter.

I remember when I lived in Harlem the local church had a day when they fed the entire community and offered us food even though we didn't donate, were white (it was a black church), and weren't poor. We declined because the food should go to those in need. They said "well maybe your dog is hungry, maybe take some to feed her!" It was incredibly sweet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002274)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:31 PM
Author: electric french chef

no goy biglawyer in MFH can get a respectable free meal from a church. churches feed poors and homeless. i could go to 50 different places on a friday night in MFH and get a free meal with respectable, educated professional people.

we get that you think jewish food is awful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002301)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:31 PM
Author: violent brilliant trailer park

they offer food because they can prosletyze, i suspect.

also, jewish food is as good as most other ethnic cuisines (esp. European).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002304)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Of course, Christian charity comes with a "praise Jesus" component.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002330)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Come to think of it, I probably shouldn't have told that story and it violates my "don't talk about IRL backgrounds here" rule.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002346)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002376)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Ty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002414)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:44 PM
Author: electric french chef

the difference is that jews giving other jews free food/booze to prosthelytize isn't charity. the meal is just a way to get them in the door. it's not for poors and homeless. food and drink are icebreakers in every single culture around the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002389)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Churches have that too, of course, but Christians think providing charity is one of the key purposes of the Church.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002420)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: flatulent institution friendly grandma

>>they can’t proselytize to non-Jews

What does this mean? Curious as a goy - Catholics, Christians, and Mormons will talk to anyone who will listen. Because if you're not a Jew from your maternal line you can't really be Jewish?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002411)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: electric french chef

exactly. the twist is that jews can convert -- but converts are to be discouraged and it's extremely difficult.

it is also said that a convert was jewish from the moment he/she was conceived/born, and they were born with a jewish soul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002427)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: flatulent institution friendly grandma

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002437)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Oh, I know this one. They accept converts but they won't actively seek them (and will even discourage them - they're supposed to refuse 3x before accepting or something). They have a rule against proselytizing to non-Jews. It is one of the biggest differences of Jews vs. non-Jews. IIRC, it was in response to them getting slaughtered for trying to convert people.

DBG, did I get that right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002435)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: electric french chef

credited as to all but the last sentence.

the last sentence is a difficult question to know the truth of. at various points in history, jews did mass conversions -- despite the talmud talking about how jews aren't supposed to prosthelytize.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002474)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:57 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Right, but the rule sticking came out of killing all the Jews of Rome, iirc. I know that once upon a time Jews freely proselytized and converted others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002485)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:05 AM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:05 AM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005823)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:20 PM
Author: electric french chef

are you talking about shit like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitzvah_tank

if so, yes, they're the same people.

>>Also, is their point to basically find non-religious Jews and make them religious?

sort of. that's the long game. it's also to make semi-religious people more religious. and to provide a home for already religious jews.

in the short run, it's even to provide an iota of religiousity for someone who is non-religious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002243)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:24 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Yep, exactly what I was talking about.

"in the short run, it's even to provide an iota of religiousity for someone who is non-religious."

Explain this one to me. Ok, so they convince someone to pray with them. The net effect is what? I saw a YouTube of what happens if you show up and pray with them. Seemed baffling and I understood the long game (and that this supposedly will hasten the return of the Messiah) but I don't understand that short-term benefit you just described.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002263)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: electric french chef

here's how it works. a huge part of what chabad does is on college campi. there's a chabad rabbi & chabad house on all sorts of directional state tttt's now.

you invite to shabbat dinner on friday night some jews who hated hebrew school and hate being jewish and havent done anything jewish since their bar mitzvah. you give them free dinner and free booze. basically pregaming before they hit the frat party.

you get them to go once. they probably will realize it's not so bad and the weird rabbi with the beard isn't so bad after all.

they'll probably go again. maybe they'll go once a semester. or maybe even once a month. maybe you even get them to go on a free israel trip. maybe they'll be more likely to marry jewish. etc.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002288)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:30 PM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002300)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:32 PM
Author: electric french chef

l'chaim.

the idea is that every jew has a jewish soul, and their jewishness is buried in there somewhere, and you never know what or when will get it to spark.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002310)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002317)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: electric french chef

l'chaim! was there a kars4kids bumper sticker too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002370)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002381)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Yep, credit to DBG. They are weird as fuck but weird is interesting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002315)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:32 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Right, so each instance is part of that slippery slope. Yeah, Christians do the same thing, it just isn't solely focused on Christians.

It is probably also really effective if the audience is people who grew up Jewish enough to go to Hebrew school and have Bar Mitzvahs, meaning that there was a good chance they would return to it as they started thinking of starting a family (true of all religions as well, and we would never think of returning to the Church but for kids).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002312)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002335)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: electric french chef

i'm sure someone has good data on "returners," but perhaps someone who grew up with ZERO jewish affiliation might be easier to reach than someone who grew up with a typical reform jewish experience as a kid.

the person who never went to hebrew school and never had a bar mitzvah is a blank slate.

the kid who hated hebrew school because it's miserable may have negative associations with judaism.

every person is different tho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002345)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002350)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Disagree. Aging does weird shit to people and if you grow up with religion you end up with a built-in community. If you never experienced that community to begin with then you don't really seek it out in bad times or when you get older. For example, my parents are sort of blank on organized religion. We have a friend from the Baltic states who grew up in a Catholic family but because it was during the USSR, she doesn't even plan on baptizing her kid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002412)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: electric french chef

i see what you're saying, but kids who got dragged to hebrew school once a week for a couple years and had a bar mitzvah, and have had no other affiliation with judiasm other than being forced to go to temple 2 days a year with their parents aren't experiencing any sort of jewish community. that was basically my experience with judaism growing up. the judaism is just a chore you have to do to make your parents happy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002447)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002453)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

But aren't you basically proof of my point? You're now an Ortho Jew that literally made your spouse go through a conversion process.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002478)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 4:01 PM
Author: electric french chef

yes, i am proof of your point. but i'm just one data point. again, i don't have a good data set, and i'm just going on experience / anecdotal experience.

i know plenty of people like me. i also know plenty of jews from the FSU who grew up with zero judaism and then got into it as adults and became religious.

my point is that i suspect that you might not find much of a statistical difference between jews who grew up with zero affiliation and ones with a reform upbringing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002508)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

"my point is that i suspect that you might not find much of a statistical difference between jews who grew up with zero affiliation and ones with a reform upbringing"

If you grow up with "zero affiliation", why wouldn't you just find religion in Christianity (which is probably what your gfs/spouse will be)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002537)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 4:08 PM
Author: electric french chef

because you still know you're jewish and your name is cohen, and some chabad rabbi will rope you into a free meal on campus.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002557)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Ok, except this ignores that the number of Jews who stay Jewish isn't huge, and the more secular their background the more likely they are to leave. At least, that's what I've read in a bunch of articles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002572)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: electric french chef

yes, true, very very few jews who didnt grow up orthodox are becoming orthodox. i'm just talking about the subset who do -- it's a mixed bad who they are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002619)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

There are seriously people who didn't grow up with Judaism that go "oh, these guys have the right idea!"? Have you ever met anyone like that? I'm really skeptical.

The more I've learned about your religion the worse it sounds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002653)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: electric french chef

yes, lots of ppl from the FSUs, included.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002661)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:33 AM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

These people must be from the most TTT places imaginable. Like various *Stan republics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005999)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:34 AM
Author: electric french chef

most are ukrainian, belarusian, or russian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37006002)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:36 AM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

I don't for a second believe a Russian would do this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37006017)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: odious fighting meetinghouse legal warrant

what about goyim? are we welcome?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005940)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: electric french chef

nope, sorry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005961)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: Khaki bat shit crazy market

Long story short: They want to make Jews Jewwier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002316)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Right, the Jews get Jewier until the SuperJew (the Messiah) comes and elevates Jews to be the Kings of the World. That's the religion in a nutshell, amirite?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002338)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: electric french chef

woah, rare credited poast from tmf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002395)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Ty. XO has increased my interest in exactly what Judaism is. I really wanted to get to the bottom of your religion. I always suspected it was a totally different animal than Christianity, but until I could state what I stated above I couldn't fully explain it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002497)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 6:52 PM
Author: racy demanding rehab half-breed

Pro tip: it’s your religion too ape.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37003623)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: Khaki bat shit crazy market

Don't tell TMF, our bort THEOLOGIAN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37004664)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 9:56 PM
Author: electric french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37004743)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 11:23 PM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

lolno.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005544)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:04 AM
Author: insecure useless brakes
Subject: you dont know anything about xtianity

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_Hellenistic_philosophy

Commentary from Sir William Smith, Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology (1870, p. 620).[2]

One, or unity, is the essence of number, or absolute number. As absolute number it is the origin of all numbers, and so of all things. (According to another passage of Aristotle, Met. xii. 6. p. 1080, b. 7. number is produced) This original unity they also termed God (Ritter, Gesch. der FML vol. i. p. 389). These propositions, however, would, taken alone, give but a very partial idea of the Pythagorean system. A most important part is played in it by the ideas of limit, and the unlimited. They are, in fact, the fundamental ideas of the whole. One of the first declarations in the work of Philolaus was, that all things in the universe result from a combination of the unlimited and the limiting; for if all things had been unlimited, nothing could have been the object of cognizance.

It was not until the fusion of Platonic and Aristotelian theology with Christianity that the concepts of strict omnipotence, omniscience, or benevolence became commonplace. The Platonic Theory of Forms had an enormous influence on Hellenic Christian views of God. In those philosophies, Forms were the ideals of every object in the physical world, and objects in the physical world were merely shadows of those perfect forms. Platonic philosophers were able to theorize about the forms by looking at objects in the material world, and imagining what the "Perfect" tree, or "Perfect" man would be. The Aristotelian view of God grew from these Platonic roots, arguing that God was the Infinite, or the Unmoved mover.

Hellenic Christians and their medieval successors then applied this Form-based philosophy to the Christian God. Philosophers took all the things that they considered good, Power, Love, Knowledge and Size, and posited that God was "infinite" in all these respects. They then concluded that God was omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent and omnibenevolent. Since God was perfect, any change would make him less than perfect, so they asserted that God was unchanging, or immutable.

Anselm of Canterbury, a priest, monk, and philosopher defined God as the "Being than which no greater can be conceived." Almost 200 years later, Thomas Aquinas, in his Summa Theologiae, article 3, wrote succinctly: "By 'God', however, we mean some infinite good".

With the establishment of the formal church, the development of creeds and formal theology, this view of God as Omni-Everything became nearly universal in the Christian World.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005808)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:05 AM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005814)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:06 AM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005825)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: exhilarant mustard pit

The First Stop on the coming Cleansing of America Tour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37002417)



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Date: October 11th, 2018 9:47 PM
Author: Indigo site kitty

lulz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37004672)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:00 AM
Author: Cordovan Hall Really Tough Guy

They are a wacko cult like Christianity or Scientology that believes some creepy rabbi in Brooklyn was the true Messiah. Basically, copying the Christianity playbook and playing the super long game of a kinder, friendlier Judaism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005777)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

"They are a wacko cult like Christianity"

LMAO, gtfo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005850)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:11 AM
Author: azure startled brethren tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005858)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Every major southern city is full of normal, secular Christians. Yeah, I guess he could be the one poster that lives in a small, Southern, redneck town and never left but somehow found XO but it is more likely that he lives in Brooklyn and has never left.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005878)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:12 AM
Author: Cordovan Hall Really Tough Guy

Christianity is a cult subset of Judaism.

Is that statement wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005861)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Yes, it is wrong. Christianity is fundamentally different than Judaism. The entire points of the religions are different. Judaism is a fundamentally middle-eastern, tribal religion. Christianity is a fundamentally European religion that focuses on expansion and conversion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005897)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Cordovan Hall Really Tough Guy

Like Islam?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005934)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Islam is another middle-eastern religion that sucks, yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005939)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: insanely creepy boltzmann locale

What would happen if you're a goy who pretends to be Jewish in order to hang out with them (and investigate how they control the world) and get the free food, you go to events for several years, and then eventually the rabbi finds out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005949)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: electric french chef

rabbi will be suspicious if you have a goy name and look goy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005977)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:30 AM
Author: insanely creepy boltzmann locale

Plenty of white-looking Jews out there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005983)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:32 AM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

Also, a bunch of Jews I know have totally normal American names (names like "Smith").

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005995)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:30 AM
Author: Costumed alcoholic roast beef

I question this because in the YouTube video I watched on that Chabad tank thing some black dude decided to say he was Jewish for the lulz and get some free food and went along with praying. It was pretty hilarious to watch and to their credit, they went with it.

Pretty sure if they go with it here, they would go with it with some normal looking guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005987)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:33 AM
Author: odious fighting meetinghouse legal warrant

no, they're jews. they figured it was good press.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37005996)



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Date: October 12th, 2018 12:34 AM
Author: insecure useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103338&forum_id=2#37006006)