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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:33 AM Author: Vermilion talented step-uncle's house PayPal, Stripe, GoDaddy all cutting ties with Gab, the free speech Twitter clone, because Pittsburgh shooter posted on there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37115627) |
Date: October 29th, 2018 12:34 AM Author: opaque casino XO is only threatened if someone pressures the server where xo is hosted on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37115631) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:35 AM Author: Vermilion talented step-uncle's house (((Someone))) will eventually . Does rach have a contingency plan? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37115637) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 10:50 AM Author: Emerald idiotic home masturbator rach’s post about the new server company is not good news http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4103143&mc=164&forum_id=2#37000099 |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:15 PM Author: Startled Toaster Hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118929) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:18 PM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118948) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2018 4:41 PM Author: Fighting Chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37146285) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 1:45 AM Author: Cracking erotic digit ratio What kind of fucking nonsense is it to deplatform these guys because 1 guy among hundreds of thousands of users happened to post on it? How did we get to this point in society? Shit like PayPal should not be able to block anyone. Make these fucking things public utilities NOW, or get EVERYTHING on the blockchain FUCK GC. Never even used gab but what a crock of fucking shit. Mass murderers posted on Facebook and Twitter yet they still run freely and fine? Because they line GC's pockets? |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 1:52 AM Author: Rebellious school cafeteria party of the first part Libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37115875) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 1:55 AM Author: trip mentally impaired personal credit line french chef Did the shooter have a Facebook or twitter? This shits is nuts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37115880) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 10:57 AM Author: opaque casino he had a blue checkmark on twitter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117130) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2018 4:51 PM Author: Heady Depressive lol 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37146374) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 2:01 AM Author: orchid den cuckoldry The most fucked thing of all is ISIS and Chicago gangs on twitter showing decapitations and Blood money like it’s nothing
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Date: November 2nd, 2018 5:35 PM Author: Amber Yarmulke Crackhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37146661) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:01 AM Author: crimson regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37115998) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 10:40 AM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker ok but nazis being deplatformed from twitter, faceboook, etc necessarily means that if you're using Gab then youre doing so to engage in pro-Nazi discussion. and if you were using it for some other purpose, then there are plenty of alternatives and you're not being de-platformed.
if a company like paypal or godaddy doesn't want to be complicit in that sort of thing, there's no reason they should have to be. |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 10:46 AM Author: mind-boggling blathering forum (NPC) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117075) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 10:46 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle charcoal gaming laptop gaping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117076) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 11:23 AM Author: Cerebral Flirting Ticket Booth Coffee Pot what (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117245) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 11:28 AM Author: Cracking erotic digit ratio We're talking about the platform itself being attacked for shit reasons. What did GAB do wrong besides compete with GC tech darlings? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117258) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 11:38 AM Author: Heady Depressive it hosted NAZIS! if they continue to exist there will literally be anuddah shoah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117333) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 11:41 AM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker failed to moderate its service and allowed it to be used by terrorists to communicate with one another and plot against the united states and its citizens (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117347) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 11:43 AM Author: Heady Depressive okay so why shouldnt twitter and facebook get shut down? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117359) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 2:08 PM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker because the have policies moderating this sort of activity. they don't catch everything but they do remove a lot of content. Gab otoh shines a beacon to white nationalists that says "you'll be safe with us." no longer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118392) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 2:51 PM Author: Heady Depressive ok sure but youre talking about a broad ideology/belief vs a specific group of people that advocates for violence
why wont twitter/fb ban all muslims from facebook? seems like theyre not doing enough to combat terrorism |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 11:46 AM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha So let me make sure I understand your argument. Your argument is that anonymous, unmoderated services should be banned, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117376) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:04 PM Author: Ocher embarrassed to the bone private investor school jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117473) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:32 PM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117652) |
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Date: October 30th, 2018 5:57 AM Author: Ocher embarrassed to the bone private investor school Different quotemo, just thinking about how a quotemo is posting here while advocating that such services be banned. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37123567) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 2:11 PM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker my argument is that a private web hosting company should be at liberty to chose whether to do business with a service that provides a a safe haven to white nationalists. you obviously disagree so im all ears. explain why you think a private business should be forced to associate with hateful content that they and their customers find objectionable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118422) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 2:26 PM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha That sounds great until you realize that this results in a handful of companies all with a similar political lean controlling 99% of speech. My counter-argument is that you can't allow the marketplace of ideas to be controlled by a handful of companies. And by the way, I'm not particularly sympathetic to Nazis. My grandparents killed a large number of them. But if they can't express their thoughts then it is inevitable that others won't be able to either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118557) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 2:48 PM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker Is my understanding correct that you would support legislation that would, for example, require Fox News to give as much air time to libs as it does to cons? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118749) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 2:54 PM Author: Heady Depressive lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118783) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 2:56 PM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha What? How is that equivalent to not allowing companies to kill competitors that do not moderate for content to maintain their monopolies on the marketplace of ideas? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118794) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 2:59 PM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker let's stick to the issue and assume for sake of argument that there's no competition angle. Assume Twitter and Go Daddy are separate entities (which they are IRL but I know you believe they're all secretly being controlled out of Israel or whatever...let's put that aspect aside). Same question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118815) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:04 PM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha See below. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118858) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:23 PM Author: misanthropic mad cow disease messiness Yes, along with other political perspectives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118980) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 4:09 PM Author: spectacular people who are hurt Why shouldn't the company be forced to do business with white nationalists? It got into the market to make money. It's making money. Why shouldn't there be rules it has to follow if it wants to make money providing that kind of service to ordinary Americans? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37119303) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 5:07 PM Author: Shivering tan piazza uh that's the whole point of the federal Communications Decency Act, Section 230. Legally, Gab doesn't have to moderate. Congress explicitly gave internet platforms an exception. If they're gonna start moderating, then they're arguably more like a publisher akin to a newspaper, which is liable for content on its site. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37119771) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 11:41 AM Author: fragrant dingle berry lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117350) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 11:44 AM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha "ok but nazis being deplatformed from twitter, faceboook, etc necessarily means that if you're using Gab then youre doing so to engage in pro-Nazi discussion"
This is like an LSAT question ("Which of the following best represents the flaw in the argument") and not a particularly hard one... |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: demanding fuchsia theatre incel theyre colluding to take down a competitor of a cabal member. And they wouldnt have amassed so much collective commercial leverage without Obama rimming their assholes for 8 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117541) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:20 PM Author: bearded titillating nursing home jewess God I hope this is a schtick and you're not actually this fucking stupid.
"ok but nazis being deplatformed from twitter, faceboook, etc necessarily means that if you're using Gab then youre doing so to engage in pro-Nazi discussion." read this again. This is fucking incoherent. - "if you were using it for some other purpose, then there are plenty of alternatives and you're not being de-platformed." It's laughable to argue on FUCKING XO that any bad opinions on a site should get it shut down. |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:42 PM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker the question isn't whether it should get shut down. the question is whether private companies should be required to associate themselves with those opinions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37119101) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 5:02 PM Author: Fishy Shrine Twinkling Uncleanness required by law? of course not, freedom of contract. socially pressured to not de-platform every overreaction crybaby leftie cause celebre of the week (gab this week, XO in 2007 when we were sued), by the public opinion of the 95% of normal sane non-SJW Americans? yes. |
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Date: October 30th, 2018 6:02 AM Author: Ocher embarrassed to the bone private investor school Bake the cake, bigot
The freedom of contract argument sailed with the 1964 civil rights act, and unless everyone gives it up we need to force these companies to be nondiscriminatory towards us, too. |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:45 PM Author: claret tattoo "ok but nazis being deplatformed from twitter, faceboook, etc necessarily means that if you're using Gab then youre doing so to engage in pro-Nazi discussion."
I can't tell if this is low-IQ schtick or not |
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Date: October 30th, 2018 12:03 AM Author: adventurous black persian cuck I think he did a good job of playing the devil's advocate here, but there's only so far one's interpretation on the Gab situation can be twisted before jumping the shark, and he has walked his (proffered in jest, I believe) right up to that line quite well. I understand what you mean though because, to me, some of Milton Friedman's arguments used to strike me in this manner. So, it can seem to be a thin line between brilliance and insincerity around here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37122729) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 11:36 AM Author: excitant lettuce absolutely disgusting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117321) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:07 PM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha By the way, bigtech has basically IRL created one of the most remarkable betrayals in history. Get everyone to use your platforms because they're free, convenient and OPEN. Then, when everyone abandons things like usenet and other open forums, content control everything. When alternatives start to pop up, use your other tentacles like Paypal and control over ad services to starve them out. At the end of the day, you achieve greater control over the conversation of 99% of society than ever thought possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117485) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:16 PM Author: aggressive parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117532) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:18 PM Author: Blue ungodly mexican space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117551) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:19 PM Author: demanding fuchsia theatre incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117554) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: fragrant dingle berry cr in the past a lot of these guys were about all information being FREE and OPEN, to include anything from DVD encryption source code to the Anarchist's Cookbook (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117560) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: filthy lodge voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117566) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: Beady-eyed scourge upon the earth Mail, radio and tv went along the same path of content regulation. The notions of a wide open unregulated internet as a force for good were nice, but naive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117575) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:33 PM Author: Blue ungodly mexican space Guess we should shut down autoadmit then huh my moderate friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117657) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:35 PM Author: odious walnut national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117676) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 1:42 PM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118174) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 2:27 PM Author: Amber Yarmulke Crackhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118564) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:34 PM Author: Glittery translucent mediation This is an odd response. Any agency or intention on the part of the bad actor is nowhere to be found. The result is inevitable and only naivety could suggest otherwise. It’s really no big deal, and certainly no one can be blamed for such an instinctive response.
But you stop short of where you really want to go. Content regulation, or censorship of political right wing thought more specifically, is what the thoughtful moderate desires. |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:37 PM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha Mail?
Radio and TV - yes, but at the time it was viewed as nbd because everyone was moving to the internet and said "open" platforms anyway. This was part of setting up the kill. |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: disrespectful international law enforcement agency monopolists allowed to create monopoly behave like monopolists with a monopoly after monopolists achieve monopoly, odd case very interesting GD IT WHEN ANTITRUST, SESSIONS |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:28 PM Author: Maniacal roast beef pistol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117623) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:32 PM Author: Cracking erotic digit ratio jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117650) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 12:37 PM Author: rusted heaven And the KGB knew this would happen so they created Russian alternatives and all but banned the US players from the Russian market. This shit is the biggest national security threat there is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117695) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 1:10 PM Author: aquamarine vivacious indian lodge corn cake very cr friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37117947) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 2:12 PM Author: Thirsty Hell cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118434) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 2:53 PM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker alternatively, if you're a new start up, just don't be a haven for the content bigtech refuses to be associated with. or do but understand there's nothing compelling bigtech to do business with you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118777) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:06 PM Author: Purple Free-loading Hall Fat Ankles you nailed it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118868) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:20 PM Author: bearded titillating nursing home jewess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118961) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 7:56 PM Author: Emerald idiotic home masturbator (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37121043) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 9:42 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Galvanic Brunch Internal Respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37121723) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 2:55 PM Author: arousing up-to-no-good kitty We've been on the cutting board since Trustafarian's UC Hastings threat. Would actually take some idiot following through for us to get hosed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118792) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 5:11 PM Author: Shivering tan piazza this board has some powerful enemies, like the adl. the tide has shifted enough that xo may not survive another major battle. rach needs to move the servers overseas and look into decentralization. i hope he also set up an LLC to shield himself personally from liability. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37119821) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 2:56 PM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker So everyone complaining ITT would support legislation that would, for example, require Fox News to be content-neutral since they're one of the big cable news outlets? They should be required to give libs just as much access to their network as cons, just like you think Twitter should be required to associate with Nazis and allow them to post there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118797) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 2:58 PM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha Reposted from above: What? How is that equivalent to not allowing companies to kill competitors that do not moderate for content to maintain their monopolies on the marketplace of ideas?
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:01 PM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker stop trying to weasel around the issue. Go Daddy and Gab are not competitors. Now try to answer the question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118826) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:04 PM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha No one is saying specific stations/shows/media outlets can't have a lean. However, when dominant speech platforms that effectively control online speech start to discriminate against certain viewpoints then we have a problem and stepping in is appropriate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118855) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:13 PM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker so what do you propose we do with Fox News, the Limbaugh Show, etc? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118918) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:13 PM Author: Heady Depressive nothing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118924) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:16 PM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker got it. yours is purely a partisan argument rather than a legal one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118935) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:18 PM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha See below. I guess we could ban all political leaning commentary but I agree with the poster that said this would be unenforceable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118946) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:19 PM Author: Heady Depressive No, but yours is while also being profoundly disingenuous.
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118881 |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:53 PM Author: claret tattoo Can you think of anything that distinguishes Twitter from Fox News in terms of market competition? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37119173) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:17 PM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha Same thing we do with Huffington Post, Salon, Stephen Colbert. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118943) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:00 PM Author: Heady Depressive yeah because a cable network where people have to be invited on to appear on tv and a social media site literally anyone can sign up for are the exact same thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118820) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:03 PM Author: Hyperactive mother You do need a .edu... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118843) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:03 PM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker false premise. Twitter gets to decide who posts on their platform just as Fox News gets to decide who appears on theirs. the question is: which model do you support? Should Fox News become content neutral, or should Twitter be permitted to decide who uses their platform just as Fox News does? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118850) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:07 PM Author: demanding fuchsia theatre incel false equivalency for the reasons others noted, but every person here would likely support rules removing all editorializing out of news reporting. the problem is it's hard to enforce. where one agency will report the facts of a shooting, the other will report on shooter background info so that people infer motives for political purposes.
the big 3 US media conglomerates and bigtech should be baby-belled asap. |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:14 PM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker ok. how do you do that without first repealing or modifying the first amendment and all of its case law? or are you saying you support changing the constitution? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118927) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:17 PM Author: demanding fuchsia theatre incel i would just go the antitrust route because it's too hard to enforce in practice, legality aside. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118940) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:38 PM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha tcr. Essentially, if you have the power to control the national conversation then you're too big and powerful and need to be broken up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37119082) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:57 PM Author: contagious topaz selfie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37119206) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:08 PM Author: Heady Depressive No not really. Social media lets everyone speak until they notice something they dislike and then censor it afterwards. TV channels control what happens on air from the get go. Twitter acts effectively as a public space because it does not curate content before it is released. TV, publications, radio, publications, etc. do not because they determine who gets to speak and usually what they are allowed to say before allowing them to use the platform. The only censorship social media platforms should engage in should extent to which government regulates speech within a public space.
As far as I know Gab doesn’t ban people for expressing leftist views. If it does, it should not be allowed to. |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 4:07 PM Author: spectacular people who are hurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37119273) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 5:17 PM Author: Shivering tan piazza false equivalency as another poster mentioned. Twitter identifies as a platform so it qualifies for CDA 230 shield laws against liability for user generated content. Fox News is a publisher that doesn't give anyone and everyone access. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37119865) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:08 PM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha Right. The difference between an "open" platform vs. a managed media outlet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37118879) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:38 PM Author: spectacular people who are hurt I would propose that anyone who provides a public forum for political debate among anonymous members of the public is performing a governmental function, and that 1A standards should govern how they may limit speech.
What's the policy argument against this? |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:45 PM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker how do you go about determining whether someone is providing a public forum for political debate? is that what twitter and facebook are doing? is that what they set out to do? does it matter? what about godaddy and paypal? or yahoo? or any website that allows people to comment on articles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37119117) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:55 PM Author: Heady Depressive okay so theres no policy argument (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37119194) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:58 PM Author: spectacular people who are hurt I think the policy argument is it would somehow unduly restrict people who are just hosting an online bake sale or something. Trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37119208) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:56 PM Author: spectacular people who are hurt I would look to statements made by people with authority to speak on behalf of the company. Not sure you would need to go further than that. But I suppose you could do an objective test where you look to determine whether it could be used to serve that function and say to the company "ok, to the extent that your service is going to be used for that purpose, here are the rules."
Doesn't seem that different from how we tell churches to stay apolitical or pay taxes. |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:58 PM Author: Sienna rigpig point This scares me more than anything else happening in politics today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37119209) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 3:58 PM Author: swashbuckling pea-brained gunner market AutoAdmit will survive...until Trustifarian gets his posting privileges back :P (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37119218) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 4:03 PM Author: cheese-eating milk it's hilarious how quickly libs have turned against their former maximalist support for free expression. i eagerly await the ACLU's spirited defense of gab.ai on free speech grounds... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37119241) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 5:58 PM Author: Sienna rigpig point Couldn't have said it better myself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37120194) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 11:28 PM Author: Shimmering multi-colored alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37122538) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 4:05 PM Author: spectacular people who are hurt The "1A only limits GOVERNMENT" can be rebutted thusly:
The core justification for freedom of speech is epistemic humility, not anything to do with government. It transcends the 1A. It's the notion that no one can know who's right without hearing all sides of the argument. This is enunciated most clearly by JS Mill (who was English, not American), but it has roots in ancient Greek philosophy.
What we are attempting to do is to expand on the concept of freedom of speech and establish it as a civil right that social media platforms have to respect. |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 6:03 PM Author: misanthropic mad cow disease messiness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37120232) |
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Date: October 30th, 2018 1:37 PM Author: histrionic pit hominid Scholarship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37125826) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2018 5:56 PM Author: crimson regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37146790) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 6:48 PM Author: Impertinent Goal In Life Generalized Bond No one cares about this shitbort. So long as you trumpmos can go a few more years without shooting up a public spot we'll be fine.
All the Trumpmos in the space, please don't shoot up the place.
Cuz i see some posters tonight who should be getting 180s |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 9:43 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Galvanic Brunch Internal Respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37121728) |
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Date: October 30th, 2018 11:05 AM Author: dashing lemon weed whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37124786) |
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Date: October 30th, 2018 1:58 PM Author: histrionic pit hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37125965) |
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Date: October 30th, 2018 11:15 AM Author: Heady Depressive like 12 people use this site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37124843) |
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Date: October 30th, 2018 11:39 AM Author: Vermilion talented step-uncle's house This myth was Thoroughly debunked during the outage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4117805&forum_id=2#37125020) |