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cheating-ring scandal at UT. school plans no punishment

1L cheating
gold soul-stirring water buffalo
  05/10/06
fLAME
territorial indecent resort
  05/10/06
I'm serious. Hopefully this thread will get some action now...
gold soul-stirring water buffalo
  05/10/06
why do you hate UTTTexas?
territorial indecent resort
  05/10/06
This absence of investigation is why. There were anywhere f...
gold soul-stirring water buffalo
  05/10/06
A 3.3 is generous. STFU.
territorial indecent resort
  05/10/06
Oh and employers don't know that?
gold soul-stirring water buffalo
  05/10/06
grade inflation pwn3d!! you're all winners. hah.
pale sexy church building
  05/10/06
...
gold soul-stirring water buffalo
  05/16/06
Isn't a UT JD punishment enough?
Sick doctorate station
  05/10/06
Why allow double taxation on us?
gold soul-stirring water buffalo
  05/10/06
You != partnership HTH
smoky charismatic haunted graveyard gas station
  05/11/06
Don't mock the T-15, dood.
Yellow curious tank stead
  05/10/06
Texas is no longer T-15, HTH.
Canary wild twinkling uncleanness
  05/11/06
What was their mode of operation?
odious filthy national security agency
  05/10/06
They're currently accepting written statements from students...
gold soul-stirring water buffalo
  05/10/06
that sounds very easy to flame
territorial indecent resort
  05/10/06
That's fine, but we'll see if anyone confirms on here. If n...
gold soul-stirring water buffalo
  05/10/06
sucks dood. do u know ne babes?
territorial indecent resort
  05/10/06
what do you mean by "cheating ring"?
bateful dull organic girlfriend stag film
  05/10/06
Multiple people participated.
gold soul-stirring water buffalo
  05/10/06
So are you purposely avoiding giving details about how they ...
Erotic liquid oxygen background story
  05/10/06
No. I don't want to screw up any future punishment by relea...
gold soul-stirring water buffalo
  05/10/06
That would be an interesting punishment.
Erotic liquid oxygen background story
  05/10/06
wait is this undergrad or ls?
pale sexy church building
  05/10/06
1L - must be LS.
odious filthy national security agency
  05/10/06
oops. readingcompselfpwn3d
pale sexy church building
  05/10/06
I don't think posting on an anonymous message board would so...
French Sticky Pit Circlehead
  05/10/06
So basically you're trying to blackmail the school into taki...
Massive Range Hominid
  05/10/06
somewhat
gold soul-stirring water buffalo
  05/11/06
cool
Massive Range Hominid
  05/13/06
How many people are we talking about here? If there are lik...
pale sexy church building
  05/10/06
8-15ish suspected
gold soul-stirring water buffalo
  05/11/06
expel the cheaters and fill the spots with transfers
fantasy-prone half-breed halford
  05/11/06
Assuming that the cheaters did very well their first semeste...
gold soul-stirring water buffalo
  05/11/06
I don't know why that would be an issue. Employers hire more...
Supple crystalline black woman turdskin
  05/11/06
playing along while suspecting flame... I doubt a Dean woul...
razzmatazz house
  05/14/06
Just 1L's? All in one section?
Grizzly Partner Main People
  05/10/06
Yes. Yes.
gold soul-stirring water buffalo
  05/11/06
Was Lawrence Sager the ring leader?
Grizzly Partner Main People
  05/11/06
I can confirm some aspects of this thread, but note there ar...
Hairraiser Pea-brained Tattoo Corn Cake
  05/10/06
lol
Soggy coral hell
  05/10/06
Does the academic thug know of this?
Sooty Swashbuckling Mexican Round Eye
  05/11/06
TTTexasPWN3D
Gay theater stage
  05/11/06
I can also confirm that this is accurate. We'll just have to...
free-loading onyx hunting ground box office
  05/11/06
FRCP(Rule 9) requires particularity for allegations of fraud...
Bat Shit Crazy Marketing Idea Puppy
  05/11/06
So you'll throw the rulebook at me when there is CHEATING go...
free-loading onyx hunting ground box office
  05/11/06
Why do you hate Freedom?
pale sexy church building
  05/11/06
What method of cheating was used????
Soggy coral hell
  05/11/06
http://amicus--curiae.livejournal.com/67887.html
chocolate chest-beating dopamine stage
  05/11/06
shut the fuck up.
cobalt big cumskin
  05/11/06
hahahaha. what a ttt! it drops out of the prestigious top...
cobalt big cumskin
  05/11/06
...
nofapping haunting travel guidebook
  05/11/06
I can confirm there was cheating taking place. I know some ...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
How'd they cheat?
territorial indecent resort
  05/13/06
The final was a closed book, 4 hour test. Someone hid notes...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
That's a TTT way to cheat. Going to the bathroom takes a lo...
stirring impressive public bath
  05/13/06
the bathroom was approximately 15 feet from the exit of the ...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
So were the same people taking off for the bathroom multiple...
stirring impressive public bath
  05/13/06
I think this calls for the grateful shiteater.
territorial indecent resort
  05/13/06
Indeed.
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
yes. This isn't uncommon: see below regarding red bull.
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
They didn't think it would be obvious for 20 people to go to...
territorial indecent resort
  05/13/06
To be honest, during these tests lots of people go take a pi...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
Wouldn't it be obvious if someone not part of the ring went ...
territorial indecent resort
  05/13/06
Well, they got caught, eh? I dunno. If someone left note...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
How did they catch the individuals that were cheating?
territorial indecent resort
  05/13/06
Someone suspected something was up, and they just threw thei...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
someone in the cheating ring suspected someone was on to the...
Arrogant Site
  05/13/06
someone in the cheating ring suspected someone was on to t...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
an outline in a trash can does not a cheater make. in clo...
pearly vigorous casino
  05/13/06
There was a witness though.
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
The school is definitely planning sanctions. From what I've...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
names been released yet? is this a big section or small sec...
Grizzly Partner Main People
  05/13/06
no names. Big section
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
I suppose it was all men?
Grizzly Partner Main People
  05/13/06
all women, actually
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
do you personally know any one of them?
Grizzly Partner Main People
  05/13/06
I'd rather not say. I know who all of the people whose name...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
swirling heh? that's cool.
Grizzly Partner Main People
  05/13/06
It's turned into an instant messenger and email witch hunt, ...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
oh so it's just a witch hunt? no one knows for sure?
Grizzly Partner Main People
  05/13/06
There are a few people that are being consistently fingered ...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
They let them use the bathroom? lolololz
Hyperactive learning disabled orchestra pit boiling water
  10/02/06
If they found an outline, it won't be hard to fingerprint it...
pearly vigorous casino
  05/13/06
It would be hard to get 110 lawyers to submit to fingerprint...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
they already have, when they did early sign up for the bar (...
pearly vigorous casino
  05/13/06
again, hahaha. enjoy your shithole, texans.
cobalt big cumskin
  05/13/06
That is pretty sad people were cheating on a Con Law exam. j...
floppy pearl dragon
  05/13/06
There was a question that expected you to know all of the co...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
...
pearly vigorous casino
  05/13/06
so you cheated?
floppy pearl dragon
  05/13/06
pretty much. they'll never catch me though, i'm the gingerbr...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
I was actually one of the cheaters. We're beging given a war...
Beta Cerebral Principal's Office Potus
  05/13/06
FLAME
pearly vigorous casino
  05/13/06
I wish. You think I'm going to want to write 1,000 words on ...
Beta Cerebral Principal's Office Potus
  05/13/06
LMAO. UT --> 1L BIGLAW? Now I KNOW this is flame.
pearly vigorous casino
  05/13/06
FLAME. No one at UT gets 1L biglaw gigs
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
Sure they do. You just have to know how to work the system p...
Beta Cerebral Principal's Office Potus
  05/13/06
What was your 1L elective?
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
Creative legal writing.
Beta Cerebral Principal's Office Potus
  05/13/06
You just PWNED yourself. That wasn't an option. Good guess...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
Fucking fuck!
Beta Cerebral Principal's Office Potus
  05/13/06
Actually, that's not even a class offered here. How ghetto
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
1000 words? That's nothing.
Razzle-dazzle glassy striped hyena cuckold
  12/11/07
are closed book tests prevalent at all TTTs?
Metal heaven friendly grandma
  05/13/06
I can't speak for other shitty schools, but the vast majorit...
saffron depressive
  05/13/06
Closed book exams are TTT.
Pungent Abusive Knife
  05/13/06
Interesting discussion here: http://amicus--curiae.livejour...
Irradiated hissy fit
  05/13/06
If I were one in the cheating ring I'd go on the offensive. ...
puce spectacular sound barrier
  05/14/06
"Until they fingerprint me of course" ahh, yes,...
Nighttime Home
  05/14/06
I was going to say that getting a shitty grade is far better...
razzmatazz house
  05/14/06
Update
stirring impressive public bath
  05/23/06
wgwag
fantasy-prone half-breed halford
  12/11/07


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Date: May 10th, 2006 6:33 PM
Author: gold soul-stirring water buffalo
Subject: 1L cheating

Perhaps saying something on here may actually get some outside pressure on them to actually do something about it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5759944)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:34 PM
Author: territorial indecent resort

fLAME

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5759956)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:37 PM
Author: gold soul-stirring water buffalo

I'm serious. Hopefully this thread will get some action now and in the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5759979)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:38 PM
Author: territorial indecent resort

why do you hate UTTTexas?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5759992)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:42 PM
Author: gold soul-stirring water buffalo

This absence of investigation is why. There were anywhere from 4-12 students involved. That can fuck up our tight curve really badly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760033)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:49 PM
Author: territorial indecent resort

A 3.3 is generous. STFU.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760109)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:54 PM
Author: gold soul-stirring water buffalo

Oh and employers don't know that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760135)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:59 PM
Author: pale sexy church building

grade inflation pwn3d!! you're all winners. hah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760180)





Date: May 16th, 2006 6:28 PM
Author: gold soul-stirring water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5796503)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:35 PM
Author: Sick doctorate station

Isn't a UT JD punishment enough?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5759957)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:37 PM
Author: gold soul-stirring water buffalo

Why allow double taxation on us?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5759986)





Date: May 11th, 2006 10:26 PM
Author: smoky charismatic haunted graveyard gas station

You != partnership HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5768250)





Date: May 10th, 2006 7:07 PM
Author: Yellow curious tank stead

Don't mock the T-15, dood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760235)





Date: May 11th, 2006 1:12 AM
Author: Canary wild twinkling uncleanness

Texas is no longer T-15, HTH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5762854)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:38 PM
Author: odious filthy national security agency

What was their mode of operation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5759993)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:40 PM
Author: gold soul-stirring water buffalo

They're currently accepting written statements from students on what they saw. In taking mine, they seemed to indicate they're not asking anybody for a statement. They also said they won't send out an announcement requiring statements.

Right now, they haven't indicated that they will take any action that involves movement outside of their own offices

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760012)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:42 PM
Author: territorial indecent resort

that sounds very easy to flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760030)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:45 PM
Author: gold soul-stirring water buffalo

That's fine, but we'll see if anyone confirms on here. If not, I'll keep you updated with what happens.

I'm not trying to make this thread a big one shot thing today. I'm simply marking it.

I'm most likely done with this thread for now. It's fucking sad that the school isn't planning to do anything or even notifying students about the whole thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760072)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:48 PM
Author: territorial indecent resort

sucks dood. do u know ne babes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760095)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:47 PM
Author: bateful dull organic girlfriend stag film

what do you mean by "cheating ring"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760086)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:49 PM
Author: gold soul-stirring water buffalo

Multiple people participated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760100)





Date: May 10th, 2006 6:58 PM
Author: Erotic liquid oxygen background story

So are you purposely avoiding giving details about how they cheated because you don't really know and are just going on rumor?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760167)





Date: May 10th, 2006 7:01 PM
Author: gold soul-stirring water buffalo

No. I don't want to screw up any future punishment by releasing all details I know now. I don't know if that may or may not affect it, but I'd rather be cautious so the fuckers can eat a dick.

This will surely get updated with details later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760191)





Date: May 10th, 2006 7:06 PM
Author: Erotic liquid oxygen background story

That would be an interesting punishment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760228)





Date: May 10th, 2006 7:08 PM
Author: pale sexy church building

wait is this undergrad or ls?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760246)





Date: May 10th, 2006 7:09 PM
Author: odious filthy national security agency

1L - must be LS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760259)





Date: May 10th, 2006 7:10 PM
Author: pale sexy church building

oops. readingcompselfpwn3d

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760267)





Date: May 10th, 2006 7:14 PM
Author: French Sticky Pit Circlehead

I don't think posting on an anonymous message board would somehow destroy the integrity of the investigation.

It would, however, give us some idea of how they cheated.

Did someone bring in notes/statutes? Get a copy of the exam?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760296)





Date: May 10th, 2006 7:11 PM
Author: Massive Range Hominid

So basically you're trying to blackmail the school into taking action - in that if none is taken you'll talk about it on here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760273)





Date: May 11th, 2006 12:11 AM
Author: gold soul-stirring water buffalo

somewhat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5762493)





Date: May 13th, 2006 10:11 AM
Author: Massive Range Hominid

cool

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5775244)





Date: May 10th, 2006 7:13 PM
Author: pale sexy church building

How many people are we talking about here? If there are like 20 people, I doubt the school would take any drastic action. They wouldn't want employers to think the school is full of cheaters. They probably don't want to expel a numerous number of students.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760286)





Date: May 11th, 2006 12:14 AM
Author: gold soul-stirring water buffalo

8-15ish suspected

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5762505)





Date: May 11th, 2006 12:29 AM
Author: fantasy-prone half-breed halford

expel the cheaters and fill the spots with transfers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5762608)





Date: May 11th, 2006 12:40 AM
Author: gold soul-stirring water buffalo

Assuming that the cheaters did very well their first semester, which seems reasonable, they may have 1L summer biglaw work. If so, that may make the school pussy out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5762667)





Date: May 11th, 2006 1:06 AM
Author: Supple crystalline black woman turdskin

I don't know why that would be an issue. Employers hire more when they know what they're getting. Imposing harsh sanctions (expulsion) on cheaters will help ensure that the school's degree means something. The worst thing a school could possibly do is to create doubt among employers as to the integrity of its grades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5762818)





Date: May 14th, 2006 2:33 AM
Author: razzmatazz house

playing along while suspecting flame...

I doubt a Dean would like try to explain to a jury/judge why he let a bunch of cheaters off easy because the Dean would get sued in a situation like this if he didn't act consistently with past situations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5780247)





Date: May 10th, 2006 8:24 PM
Author: Grizzly Partner Main People

Just 1L's? All in one section?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5760803)





Date: May 11th, 2006 12:12 AM
Author: gold soul-stirring water buffalo

Yes. Yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5762497)





Date: May 11th, 2006 12:52 AM
Author: Grizzly Partner Main People

Was Lawrence Sager the ring leader?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5762741)





Date: May 10th, 2006 9:25 PM
Author: Hairraiser Pea-brained Tattoo Corn Cake

I can confirm some aspects of this thread, but note there are some errors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5761260)





Date: May 10th, 2006 9:28 PM
Author: Soggy coral hell

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5761289)





Date: May 11th, 2006 10:45 AM
Author: Sooty Swashbuckling Mexican Round Eye

Does the academic thug know of this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5764564)





Date: May 11th, 2006 10:47 AM
Author: Gay theater stage

TTTexasPWN3D

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5764572)





Date: May 11th, 2006 10:53 AM
Author: free-loading onyx hunting ground box office

I can also confirm that this is accurate. We'll just have to wait and see where things go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5764605)





Date: May 11th, 2006 11:03 AM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Marketing Idea Puppy

FRCP(Rule 9) requires particularity for allegations of fraud. Why should anyone believe you guys?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5764667)





Date: May 11th, 2006 11:19 AM
Author: free-loading onyx hunting ground box office

So you'll throw the rulebook at me when there is CHEATING going on? What stake do you have in this? Why are you against having the cheaters EXPOSED?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5764764)





Date: May 11th, 2006 7:18 PM
Author: pale sexy church building

Why do you hate Freedom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5767183)





Date: May 11th, 2006 11:02 AM
Author: Soggy coral hell

What method of cheating was used????

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5764662)





Date: May 11th, 2006 7:02 PM
Author: chocolate chest-beating dopamine stage

http://amicus--curiae.livejournal.com/67887.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5767085)





Date: May 11th, 2006 7:17 PM
Author: cobalt big cumskin

shut the fuck up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5767177)





Date: May 11th, 2006 7:15 PM
Author: cobalt big cumskin

hahahaha. what a ttt!

it drops out of the prestigious top 15 and the students get scared and become cut throat!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5767166)





Date: May 11th, 2006 9:57 PM
Author: nofapping haunting travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5768067)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:38 AM
Author: saffron depressive

I can confirm there was cheating taking place. I know some of the people accused; they class in question was Professor Graglia's 1L Con Law class, section 3. And Taking questions

Lino: http://www.utexas.edu/law/faculty/profile.php?id=graglia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774806)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:41 AM
Author: territorial indecent resort

How'd they cheat?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774820)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:42 AM
Author: saffron depressive

The final was a closed book, 4 hour test. Someone hid notes in a bathroom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774825)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:45 AM
Author: stirring impressive public bath

That's a TTT way to cheat. Going to the bathroom takes a lot of time, and tests are usually pretty time pressured.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774835)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:46 AM
Author: saffron depressive

the bathroom was approximately 15 feet from the exit of the testing room.

It is a TTT way to cheat, but, relatively safe. This test had 3 essay questions. One was a commerce clause, one was takings, and one was a detail oriented substantive due process (needed to know all 6 opinions of griswold) If you didn't know who said what in griswold, a 5 minute look over the notes would be invaluable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774847)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:48 AM
Author: stirring impressive public bath

So were the same people taking off for the bathroom multiple times during the test?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774859)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:49 AM
Author: territorial indecent resort

I think this calls for the grateful shiteater.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774863)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:51 AM
Author: saffron depressive

Indeed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774872)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:50 AM
Author: saffron depressive

yes. This isn't uncommon: see below regarding red bull.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774869)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:47 AM
Author: territorial indecent resort

They didn't think it would be obvious for 20 people to go to the bathroom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774855)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:50 AM
Author: saffron depressive

To be honest, during these tests lots of people go take a piss or a smoke. 4 hours is a shitton of time. I'm usually so strung out on red bull that i need to piss at least once. The proctors are 3Ls who are either playing solitaire or studying for their own finals; they don't give a fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774868)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:51 AM
Author: territorial indecent resort

Wouldn't it be obvious if someone not part of the ring went into the bathroom with the notes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774873)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:52 AM
Author: saffron depressive

Well, they got caught, eh?

I dunno. If someone left notes well hidden (under a newspaper, behind a toilet) and someone closed the door, they could probably read in peace as long as they didn't make any noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774882)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:55 AM
Author: territorial indecent resort

How did they catch the individuals that were cheating?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774891)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:57 AM
Author: saffron depressive

Someone suspected something was up, and they just threw their outline in the trash. That is the most damning evidence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774902)





Date: May 13th, 2006 12:10 PM
Author: Arrogant Site

someone in the cheating ring suspected someone was on to them and threw away the outline, which was later noticed in the trash

or

someone not in the cheating ring found the outline and suspected people were cheating off of it and so threw it away

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5775482)





Date: May 13th, 2006 12:52 PM
Author: saffron depressive

someone in the cheating ring suspected someone was on to them and threw away the outline, which was later noticed in the trash

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5775603)





Date: May 13th, 2006 12:54 PM
Author: pearly vigorous casino

an outline in a trash can does not a cheater make.

in closed book exams, i always read my outline until exam time and throw it out right before i enter the test room. it's not like i'll need it at any point in the future, so i toss it.

is this whole thing is based off of an outline in a trash can?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5775611)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:01 PM
Author: saffron depressive

There was a witness though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776439)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:56 AM
Author: saffron depressive

The school is definitely planning sanctions. From what I've heard, if they can prove that anyone cheated beyond a fair level of doubt, (s)he's getting expelled. There is also a plan if they can't prove who did what to simply change the class to pass/fail. I hate that idea, i think i did well in con law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5774895)





Date: May 13th, 2006 12:28 PM
Author: Grizzly Partner Main People

names been released yet? is this a big section or small section?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5775552)





Date: May 13th, 2006 12:53 PM
Author: saffron depressive

no names. Big section

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5775605)





Date: May 13th, 2006 12:57 PM
Author: Grizzly Partner Main People

I suppose it was all men?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5775622)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:48 PM
Author: saffron depressive

all women, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776384)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:39 PM
Author: Grizzly Partner Main People

do you personally know any one of them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776615)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:46 PM
Author: saffron depressive

I'd rather not say. I know who all of the people whose names have been swirling around are. It's tough to be the same classes with the same people for a year and not know them, obviously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776676)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:50 PM
Author: Grizzly Partner Main People

swirling heh? that's cool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776703)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:51 PM
Author: saffron depressive

It's turned into an instant messenger and email witch hunt, for sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776711)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:53 PM
Author: Grizzly Partner Main People

oh so it's just a witch hunt? no one knows for sure?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776721)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:58 PM
Author: saffron depressive

There are a few people that are being consistently fingered (for example, by an eyewitness). Then there are people that are rumored to have participated in a broader cheating conspiracy. I'm not sure whether I believe that or not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776763)





Date: October 2nd, 2006 2:04 PM
Author: Hyperactive learning disabled orchestra pit boiling water

They let them use the bathroom? lolololz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#6714498)





Date: May 13th, 2006 11:24 AM
Author: pearly vigorous casino

If they found an outline, it won't be hard to fingerprint it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5775366)





Date: May 13th, 2006 12:52 PM
Author: saffron depressive

It would be hard to get 110 lawyers to submit to fingerprint tests, especially when some have left the country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5775604)





Date: May 13th, 2006 12:55 PM
Author: pearly vigorous casino

they already have, when they did early sign up for the bar (at least, that's how it works in my state. i don't know about TTTexas)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5775613)





Date: May 13th, 2006 12:18 PM
Author: cobalt big cumskin

again, hahaha.

enjoy your shithole, texans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5775531)





Date: May 13th, 2006 12:19 PM
Author: floppy pearl dragon

That is pretty sad people were cheating on a Con Law exam. jesus christ there just isn't that much info in that class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5775537)





Date: May 13th, 2006 12:53 PM
Author: saffron depressive

There was a question that expected you to know all of the concurrences and dissents to griswold. That seems pretty ridiculous to me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5775606)





Date: May 13th, 2006 12:56 PM
Author: pearly vigorous casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5775618)





Date: May 13th, 2006 12:58 PM
Author: floppy pearl dragon

so you cheated?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5775623)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:48 PM
Author: saffron depressive

pretty much. they'll never catch me though, i'm the gingerbread man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776381)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:53 PM
Author: Beta Cerebral Principal's Office Potus

I was actually one of the cheaters. We're beging given a warning, and we have to write essays over the summer on academic integrity. Apart from that, nothing whatsoever is happening to us. PWNED!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776403)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:55 PM
Author: pearly vigorous casino

FLAME

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776412)





Date: May 13th, 2006 3:59 PM
Author: Beta Cerebral Principal's Office Potus

I wish. You think I'm going to want to write 1,000 words on the importance of academic integrity while I'm being swamped with work at my Big Law gig this summer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776431)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:03 PM
Author: pearly vigorous casino

LMAO. UT --> 1L BIGLAW?

Now I KNOW this is flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776450)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:04 PM
Author: saffron depressive

FLAME. No one at UT gets 1L biglaw gigs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776453)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:05 PM
Author: Beta Cerebral Principal's Office Potus

Sure they do. You just have to know how to work the system properly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776462)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:08 PM
Author: saffron depressive

What was your 1L elective?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776471)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:12 PM
Author: Beta Cerebral Principal's Office Potus

Creative legal writing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776493)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:16 PM
Author: saffron depressive

You just PWNED yourself. That wasn't an option. Good guess, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776513)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:17 PM
Author: Beta Cerebral Principal's Office Potus

Fucking fuck!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776516)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:22 PM
Author: saffron depressive

Actually, that's not even a class offered here. How ghetto

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776538)





Date: December 11th, 2007 1:05 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle glassy striped hyena cuckold

1000 words? That's nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#9009364)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:16 PM
Author: Metal heaven friendly grandma

are closed book tests prevalent at all TTTs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776515)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:18 PM
Author: saffron depressive

I can't speak for other shitty schools, but the vast majority of finals here are open book

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776519)





Date: May 13th, 2006 4:56 PM
Author: Pungent Abusive Knife

Closed book exams are TTT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5776740)





Date: May 13th, 2006 7:45 PM
Author: Irradiated hissy fit

Interesting discussion here:

http://amicus--curiae.livejournal.com/67887.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5777737)





Date: May 14th, 2006 2:17 AM
Author: puce spectacular sound barrier

If I were one in the cheating ring I'd go on the offensive. Finger the eyewitness and reduce it to a he said she said. Can't lose! (Until they fingerprint me of course)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5780137)





Date: May 14th, 2006 2:29 AM
Author: Nighttime Home

"Until they fingerprint me of course"

ahh, yes, there's the rub... then again, you could always plea bargin for immunity......

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5780213)





Date: May 14th, 2006 2:42 AM
Author: razzmatazz house

I was going to say that getting a shitty grade is far better than getting expelled from law school.

Then I realized that you wouldn't have to go to law school for two more years and have reconsidered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5780307)





Date: May 23rd, 2006 5:11 PM
Author: stirring impressive public bath
Subject: Update

For reference: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=420539&mc=106&forum_id=2



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#5839426)





Date: December 11th, 2007 12:13 AM
Author: fantasy-prone half-breed halford

wgwag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=414563&forum_id=2#9009162)