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Date: June 22nd, 2006 12:34 PM Author: vengeful reading party lay
sent, will let you all know what happens
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6044531) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2006 12:39 PM Author: violent exciting cuck shrine
I'm not sure you need the "here are the possible reasons" part. I think the only message that you need to get across is: grades were due last friday, they're not up yet, the registrar's office won't give us any information at all, and this is unfair to students.
Also, it's "3Ls" not "3L's."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6044572) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2006 2:52 PM Author: orange parlour
"Also, it's "3Ls" not "3L's.""
Why? Generally you put an apostrophe when pluralizing acronyms and no apostrophe when pluralizing numbers: hence, the SOB's from the 1800s. 1L, 2L, and 3L are a mixed case, but if anything the logic argues in favor of the apostrophe, since there is the potential for confusion if the "s" is read to attach to the "L."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6045667) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2006 4:15 PM Author: histrionic milk gas station
This is far from the norm. If you're so sure about this, please make a citation, thanks.
PS - Why do you have your head in all the HLS threads? Oh yeah, envy. Continue self-pwnage, you dear old inferiority-complex laden SLS douche, you.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6046350) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2006 4:19 PM Author: orange parlour
whoa whoa whoa
one of us is coming across as insecure
and it is not me.
i am in the HLS threads because they are active on xoxo. i am also in the CLS threads, the NYU threads, and recently, the GULC PT thread for the same reason. it is that simple. HLS is a very good school, and you should be proud to go there. calm down. it is behavior like this that gives HLS its reputation of being filled with gunner douchebags.
i am pretty sure about the general rule, of SOB's versus 1800s. i think it is in the chicago manual of style. since i am not in my law school library and since i do not own a copy and since it is not available online that i know of, and since i would be too fucking lazy even if the above were not true, i cannot provide a more precise citation.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6046385) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2006 4:24 PM Author: histrionic milk gas station
Honestly I just like getting a rise out of you. I have high regard for SLS but you're obviously bothered by how often people rip on it.
Also, I believe the Chicago MoS allows for an apostrophe-s pluralization when the acronym contains internal punctuation (”two Ph.D.’s”) or ends in an S (”two SOS’s”), and possibly for single-letters (”straight A’s”), but not for all acronyms.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6046441) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2006 4:31 PM Author: orange parlour
i am pretty confident in what i said about the CMS. i recall looking it up during the law review candidate exercise a few weeks ago.
"Honestly I just like getting a rise out of you. I have high regard for SLS but you're obviously bothered by how often people rip on it."
likewise, 100%. i that thread where we compare OCI stats between the two schools amuses me because it bothers HLS posters so deeply.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6046500) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2006 1:24 AM Author: Rusted sadistic national security agency
"Generally you put an apostrophe when pluralizing acronyms and no apostrophe when pluralizing numbers"
Depends on the style manual. No apostrophe is the more modern trend.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6050583) |
Date: June 22nd, 2006 12:35 PM Author: Curious bat-shit-crazy menage chad
I'd leave out the "possible reasons."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6044537) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2006 12:42 PM Author: Bull headed shaky sneaky criminal
Me too, but I like the rest. I think you should send it, I think Cosgrove takes stuff pretty seriously, or at least won't think you're a douche.
Last year I wrote the Dean of Students about how the ATM was dirty and sticky and smelled like pee, wondering if they would think I was annoying, and they referred me to facilities, cleaned it up within 2 days, and thanked me like I was a war hero. It was pretty funny.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6044599) |
Date: June 22nd, 2006 12:55 PM Author: cerebral vermilion lodge
Hi everyone. I thought you should know that the registrar's office seems to be telling misleading/conflicting stories. One friend of mine called and was told that the reason grades were not available is that profs had demanded an extension. I just called, just now, and was told the reason they were not available is that the registrar, steve kane, is out of town until next week. WE BOTH TALKED TO THE SAME PERSON. What the heck is up with that?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6044718) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2006 4:24 PM Author: trip godawful black woman roast beef
TTT
Your school should have an assistant registrar who can enter the grades.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6046439) |
Date: June 22nd, 2006 3:04 PM Author: violent exciting cuck shrine
did you send this?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6045754) |
Date: June 22nd, 2006 4:34 PM Author: impressive headpube site
Dear The Harvard Law School Students:
Please kindly STFU.
Very truly yours,
The California Bar
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6046520) |
Date: June 22nd, 2006 4:59 PM Author: vengeful reading party lay
well, at least the dean of students office was nice and quick to respond
Hello:
I am very sorry about this. Our office has learned that grades should be
available next week, and that the Registrar's Office will be emailing all
students to notify everyone when the grades are posted. Again, I am sorry and
am not aware at this point of what has caused the delay.
I do apologize for the frustration that this has caused you. We will make sure
to pass on your concerns to the Registrar's Office. I will let you know if
additional information about this becomes available to us.
Best,
Dean of Students Office
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6046688)
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Date: June 23rd, 2006 10:56 AM Author: unhinged dysfunction
Well, at least it is a start.
I do think that if a serious letter writing campaign occured it would have an effect. If we could figure out when ALL the other T14 lawschools released grades, and show how HLS is the slowest by a good 2 weeks, that would help a lot.
Also, the arbitrary policy of not releasing grades until they are all in is indefensible. If a prof doesn't want to turn in grades for 2 months, fine. But this shouldn't prevent us from seeing our other grades.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6052100) |
Date: June 22nd, 2006 10:25 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Bipolar Feces Laser Beams
so apparently data entry is a much more complicated process than I've been led to believe it is
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6049159) |
Date: June 23rd, 2006 1:21 AM Author: Yellow Motley Point Coldplay Fan
I just graduated this year, and am an admittedly grade obsessed person. After going through 6 semesters of waiting for grades, I can say that predictions about when grades are going to come out are generally wrong (i.e., usually predict an earlier date than what ultimately happens). The registrar's office totally does not have its shit together and always takes so long to process grades. At most places, you get your grades for each class as soon as they are processed; at HLS, we didn't even have electronic grades until like 2 years ago.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6050568) |
Date: June 23rd, 2006 6:10 AM Author: Arousing purple nursing home
Date: June 22nd, 2006 4:24 PM
Author: andrew (J.J. Redick's designated driver)
One time I wrote a letter to the student paper at Duke complaining about giant lakes that formed because of poor drainage. Within a week, the two worst ones that I mentioned were cleaned up. I was pretty damn proud.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6046432)
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Let's re-live your greatness:
http://www.dukechronicle.com/
Poor drainage system results in campus’ soggy mess
Andrew Furlow
Posted: 1/28/02
It's a common sight around Duke's campus after a stormy day or two: Students leaping, sidestepping or just sloshing through the massive puddles that form on sidewalks, on driveways, in the middle of quads--in short, just about everywhere. From the Blackwell Dormitory arch to the head of the Bryan Center walkway, the more gigantic of these lakes are enough to stop a student in his tracks, followed by a daring and precarious lunge to continue on his way. And since this water has nowhere to go, it either remains there until a sunny day comes to dry it up or soaks into the surrounding ground, effectively turning quads into mud holes. Duke's rain drainage is, quite simply, the worst I have ever seen. Clothes get muddy, shoes get soggy, but most of all, it's just plain inconvenient. At an institution like Duke where the quality of just about everything else is consistently high, we should have a drainage system that doesn't leave students and staff wading across campus.
Andrew Furlow
Trinity '05
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6051529)
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Date: June 23rd, 2006 9:43 PM Author: vengeful reading party lay Subject: follow-up reply
I actually appreciate this a lot, even though it does nothing for us this semester.
Hi-
I know that Kristen already looked into this and responded but, given the seriousness of the concern, I wanted to chime in as well. Steve Kane is away at a conference so I couldn't speak to him live but will do so next week. I have already emailed him about the concern (without attribution). I looked on the site and didn't see any information about a grade release date so I am not certain about the planned release date. I do know that there could be a number of contributing factors but I am afraid to speculate without speaking with him first.
As for the simultaneous release, I can tell you a bit about this process since I used to run the registrar's office at Chicago. Back when I was a student there, they released grades as soon as they came in, one by one. Students complained that it was pure torture. It caused a few problems:
1. stress was up every day since you never knew when a grade might come in
2. every grade's significance was exaggerated (if you get an A , an A- and a B on the same day, you feel differently than if you just get the B all alone.
3. the grade deadline meant nothing to the faculty since missing the deadline was meaningless - you got some grades early and some grades late.
So after rounds of discussion, it was decided that there would be one release date on a date certain. The most positive effect is that it does create pressure to make the deadline because then you are either on or off the grade report and the stigma of being off is much higher. It also has the benefit of giving students a sense of when to expect grades and helps minimize the import of any one grade.
That was the plan and worked until the University system came into being. That system shows grades as added but only shows letter grades which is less meaningful at Chicago where grades are on a numeric scale. It gives you some sense of calm but a 174-179 is a B and students would tell you that a 174 is viewed the way a B- is viewed here and a 179 is viewed as an A- so knowing you have a B at Chicago doesn't tell you much.
It may be that you still prefer the system of a release of grades seriatum but I did want to offer the other view.
The biggest issue to me is that the release date was not clear so I will talk to the registrar about making that date clear in advance going forward and, if there was an unexpected delay, I will ask him to explain that so you know what happened. I remember the stress of waiting for grades and don't want to wish that on anyone so we will do what we can on this end to get this information to you as soon as possible.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6056887) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2006 11:17 PM Author: unhinged dysfunction
That might be the dumbest explaination I have ever seen. This is why no other school does it this way. The stigma argument makes no sense at all.
It might make sense if the date certain release date was really early. But it isn't. basically, you just wait until the bitter end.
Also, the problem right now isn't that we are waiting for more grades. It's that the registrar hasn't felt like releasing them yet because Steve Kane is at a conference.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6057587) |
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Date: June 23rd, 2006 11:56 PM Author: Lake Native
"The stigma argument makes no sense at all."
Neither do you.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6057887) |
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Date: June 24th, 2006 2:15 AM Author: unhinged dysfunction
" The most positive effect is that it does create pressure to make the deadline because then you are either on or off the grade report and the stigma of being off is much higher. "
This is bullshit.
HTH.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6058751) |
Date: June 23rd, 2006 11:25 PM Author: passionate death wish
This is exactly the sort of self-importance that keeps you a virgin. What's even sadder is the administration is indulging your whining.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=439910&forum_id=2#6057636) |
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