Is it odd that Trumpmos think Trump is a good source of medical advice?
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 10:22 AM Author: aphrodisiac station
I don't really use CNN much. I have a lot of sources I draw from across the political spectrum.
Here's the quote:
“And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”
Was this consistent with what the medical experts around him were saying, gibberish?
Was his prediction about filling pews on Easter consistent with what the medical experts around him were saying?
Please respond, thank.
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 10:30 AM Author: aphrodisiac station
Source? Okay.
Feb. 26: “And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.” — Trump at a press conference.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/trumps-statements-about-the-coronavirus/
Gibberish, are Trump's statements that (a) cases would be down to zero pretty soon and (b) we would be filling pews on Easter consistent with the statements by the medical experts surrounding him?
The answer is obviously no. Are you capable of admitting this, or are you too infatuated with Trump to recognize basic facts?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923049) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 10:54 AM Author: aphrodisiac station
What more info do you need to answer this?
Gibberish, are Trump's statements that (a) cases would be down to zero pretty soon and (b) we would be filling pews on Easter consistent with the statements by the medical experts surrounding him?
You can find the transcript if you like. www.google.com
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Date: April 3rd, 2020 1:01 PM Author: Learning disabled hell french chef
i read this whole thread and as a trump supporter
ur a fucking retard
trump is better than libs, but he's a dumbass and i was there when he said the virus was a hoax in january
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 11:14 AM Author: aphrodisiac station
Gibberish contention is that we should listen to trump because he has access to the best medical expertise in the world.
My contention is this access is irrelevant because trump is incapable of absorbing information as proven by his statements that contradict his advisors.
Pretty simple.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923349) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 10:38 AM Author: aphrodisiac station
February 3: “It’s very, very transmissible, and it almost certainly is going to be a pandemic,” Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told The New York Times. “But will it be catastrophic? I don’t know.”
February 25: "It's not so much a question of if this will happen anymore but rather more a question of exactly when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illness," Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the head of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said during a media briefing Tuesday.
Trump, February 26: Gonna be zero cases soon! Wooo! I did it and Kim Jong denuked!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923109) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 11:07 AM Author: flickering antidepressant drug
And what were his recommendations at the time regarding this pandemic?
Trump has already said several times he's been trying to avoid a panic and trying to give people hope. Trump and Fauci have frequently been at somewhat opposite ends of the spectrum on this (like with HCQ and Z-pack treatments). So you can keep harping on that to "prove Trump wrong," but I have yet to see any evidence from you that Trump was actually refusing the advice of his task force.
Edit: And again, literally be definition pandemic indicates spread, NOT severity
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 12:20 PM Author: flickering antidepressant drug
Still waiting for an answer....
Copying for posterity in case he tries to delete or edit later
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 10:25 AM
Author: Hey all you cool cats and kittens
And what data/information was coming out of China at that time about community spread?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923009)
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 10:31 AM
Author: Corona "Chink Flu" Virus 19 Sr.
In late February?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923056)
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 10:35 AM
Author: Hey all you cool cats and kittens
Dr Birx said up until early March their data (largely from China) showed it following a SARS model and not being so highly contagious. Then Italy started spiking and they realized the data was massively flawed.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923082)
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 10:38 AM
Author: Corona "Chink Flu" Virus 19 Sr.
February 3: “It’s very, very transmissible, and it almost certainly is going to be a pandemic,” Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told The New York Times. “But will it be catastrophic? I don’t know.”
February 25: "It's not so much a question of if this will happen anymore but rather more a question of exactly when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illness," Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the head of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said during a media briefing Tuesday.
Trump, February 26: Gonna be zero cases soon! Wooo! I did it and Kim Jong denuked!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923109)
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 10:43 AM
Author: Hey all you cool cats and kittens
SARS and H1N1 were also pandemics. That doesn’t indicate severity. Just spread.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923138)
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 10:46 AM
Author: Corona "Chink Flu" Virus 19 Sr.
So you feel trump promising zero cases and his advisors promising a pandemic are consistent messaging? 🤔
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923155)
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 10:52 AM
Author: Hey all you cool cats and kittens
So what was Fauci’s recommendation for action in February?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923193)
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 10:54 AM
Author: Corona "Chink Flu" Virus 19 Sr.
Unclear, but also irrelevant.
Trump wasn't listening to his advisors, as proven by Obeezy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923206)
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 11:00 AM
Author: Hey all you cool cats and kittens
How do you know he wasn't listening to his advisors if you don't know what Fauci's recommendations were or if Trump followed them? I'd call that highly relevant.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923233)
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 11:02 AM
Author: Corona "Chink Flu" Virus 19 Sr.
Because Fauci was saying there was going to be a pandemic and Trump was saying there would be zero cases.
Do you know what a pandemic means? As a starting point, it means more than zero cases ;-)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923246)
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 11:07 AM
Author: Hey all you cool cats and kittens
And what were his recommendations at the time regarding this pandemic?
Trump has already said several times he's been trying to avoid a panic and trying to give people hope. Trump and Fauci have frequently been at somewhat opposite ends of the spectrum on this (like with HCQ and Z-pack treatments). So you can keep harping on that to "prove Trump wrong," but I have yet to see any evidence from you that Trump was actually refusing the advice of his task force.
Edit: And again, literally be definition pandemic indicates spread, NOT severity
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923286)
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 11:16 AM
Author: Corona "Chink Flu" Virus 19 Sr.
Recommendation = irrelevant.
Fauci said there would be a pandemic. Trump said zero cases. Facts are facts bro. Trump isnt capable of learning.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923366)
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 11:20 AM
Author: Hey all you cool cats and kittens
Does a pandemic by definition indicate severity? SARS was considered a pandemic and only infected about 8000 worldwide. Only 8 people were confirmed to have had it in the US. If Trump's advisors (which includes Fauci) believed this was tracking like SARS, would Trump and Fauci's statements have been contradictory?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923397)
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 11:31 AM
Author: Hey all you cool cats and kittens
Obeezy? Where'd you go?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923486)
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 12:20 PM
Author: Hey all you cool cats and kittens
Still waiting for an answer....
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39923841)
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Date: April 3rd, 2020 12:52 PM Author: aphrodisiac station
Fauci: "almost definitely going to be a pandemic."
Trump: "going to be zero cases soon."
Trumpenprole: "these two statements are perfectly consistent."
It's amazing what cultish worship does to a person's brain.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39931885) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2020 1:06 PM Author: flickering antidepressant drug
And before that she said
The U.S. has been implementing an aggressive containment strategy that requires detecting, tracking, and isolating all cases. As much as possible and preventing more introduction of disease notably at points of entry. We’ve restricted travel into the United States while also issuing extensive travel advisories for countries currently experiencing community spread. Our travel notices are changing almost daily. We’ve also enacted the first quarantine of this scale in the U.S. And are supporting the state department and HHS in repatriating citizens from high-risk areas. We are doing this with the goal of slowing the introduction of this new virus into the U.S. And buying us more time to prepare. To date, our containment strategies have been largely successful. As a result, we have very few cases in the United States and no spread in the community. But as more and more countries experience community spread, successful containment at our borders becomes harder and harder. Ultimately, we expect we will see community spread in this country.
So yes, she believed community spread was coming. She also said they were aggressive about containing it. So Trump was HOPEFUL that those few cases would be it. Because again, data from China indicated it spread like SARS and was not as contagious as it actually is.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39931969) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2020 1:07 PM Author: aphrodisiac station
So she promised community spread was coming.
Trump promised zero cases soon on the same day (same press conference?)
And you feel this suggests Trump is listening to his medical advisors? Interesting ;-)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39931977) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2020 1:10 PM Author: aphrodisiac station
She said community spread was coming.
Trump said zero cases soon.
#Facts
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39932006) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2020 1:02 PM Author: aphrodisiac station
Feb 25.
"We are seeing it in South Korea, seeing it in Italy, seeing it in Japan and when you have that situation, it would be unrealistic not to realize when you have multiple countries in which you have sustained outbreak, that the chances of there being spillover into our country, namely a pandemic - which would involve virtually every country in the world, you have to be prepared for it," Fauci told host Bret Baier.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-anthony-fauci-coronavirus-vaccine-be-prepared
A day later
Trump: Going to be zero cases! Woooo!
Sorry dude, you're just flat out wrong.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39931942) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2020 1:07 PM Author: flickering antidepressant drug
"Chances of"
"Be prepared for"
The data coming from China said it spread like SARS. And again Trump was offering hope and trying to maintain calm, not "holy shit this is going to kill millions everyone panic!"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39931978) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2020 1:10 PM Author: aphrodisiac station
No, in late february the data did not suggest SARS.
February 2: The Wuhan coronavirus is spreading more like influenza, which is highly transmissible, than like its slow-moving viral cousins, SARS and MERS, scientists have found.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/02/health/coronavirus-pandemic-china.html
You are *really* struggling. Are you okay? Feverish? You may be coronapwned here bro.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39932000) |
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Date: April 3rd, 2020 1:28 PM Author: flickering antidepressant drug
Same article:
Still, asymptomatic carriers “are not normally major drivers of epidemics,” Dr. Fauci said. Most people get ill from someone they know to be sick — a family member, a co-worker or a patient, for example.
They thought they were containing it and did not know the long incubation time. Maybe you should go spend some time w your "wife" and check her PSI.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4495880&forum_id=2#39932147) |
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Date: April 21st, 2020 4:29 PM Author: aphrodisiac station
Okay, your odd obsession with my lovely wife aside, but it was clear at least to the NYT (though clearly not Donald) this was nothing like SARS.
And I dont see the relevance of Faucis statement as a rebuttal to my point. can you clarify? Since you are a really smart and rational person.
Tyia
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Date: April 3rd, 2020 1:13 PM Author: aphrodisiac station
I'm just capable of looking at two statements to see if they are consistent.
"There will be community spread"
and
"There will be zero cases soon"
are not consistent. This is just a basic fact. i'm sorry that it upsets you.
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Date: April 3rd, 2020 1:18 PM Author: flickering antidepressant drug
She also indicated that they were aggressive in containment
You also act like Trump was doing nothing and just twiddling his thumbs while all this was going on. If he sat back and did nothing and assumed it would go away, fine. But on the 24th he was asking for funding to deal with it and by the 29th he decided the CDC was botching the testing stuff and got the FDA to approve certified labs coming up with one.
If he knew for a fact it was going away, then why did he ask for funding two days before?
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Date: April 2nd, 2020 10:31 AM Author: Spectacular Laser Beams
He's holding up pretty well for 73. Also McDonalds is a great source of nutrients to help you have a productive and healthy day and they currently have a 2 for $4 special on breakfast sandwiches.
You probably eat salads and still have man tits.
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Date: April 24th, 2020 8:43 AM Author: aphrodisiac station
Purell injection bump.
Trumpenprole why do you worship this fat retarded boomer?
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