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Date: June 12th, 2020 12:20 AM Author: brass boltzmann
you won't want to miss it.
9 am ET.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40401803) |
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Date: June 12th, 2020 8:54 AM Author: brass boltzmann
it was 9, i'm sure of it.
but it's 9:30 now.
thank.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40402783) |
Date: June 12th, 2020 9:04 AM Author: big-titted state
After reading the 3 briefs, I give a slight edge to the judge/gleeson.
Who is on the panel for this one?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40402819) |
Date: June 12th, 2020 9:41 AM Author: brass boltzmann
Henderson weighs in, saying that Sullivan will be done soon.
Flynn's on the ropes now.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40402916) |
Date: June 12th, 2020 9:46 AM Author: brass boltzmann
Rao, finally.
She suggests that you can have amicus for contempt charges.
Flynn loses 3-0.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40402940) |
Date: June 12th, 2020 9:51 AM Author: brass boltzmann
Powell is retreating to talking points.
It's over.
July hearing before Judge Sullivan, here we come!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40402960) |
Date: June 12th, 2020 10:17 AM Author: rusted indirect expression
That was a crazy hypo by the judge.
Why would you dismiss the cop's plea because of a jury concern? They pled. LOL.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40403045) |
Date: June 12th, 2020 10:30 AM Author: rusted indirect expression
Oh shit, this guy just surrendered on the REGULAR ORDER issue. He went to his second position. Have the hearing, but limit what can be argued.
Old judge and black judge are locks to deny the mandamus.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40403100) |
Date: June 12th, 2020 10:41 AM Author: rusted indirect expression
"Well, judge, if you allow the hearing to go forward the government will have to explain to the Court why we decided to dismiss. And we don't want to do that."
LOL.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40403144) |
Date: June 12th, 2020 10:44 AM Author: spruce indecent fat ankles
lol just continue to beat the table on Fokker when it's pretty clear Fokker doesn't apply
this dude can't deviate from a script, which is why he's a government choad instead of a real lawyer
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40403151) |
Date: June 12th, 2020 10:55 AM Author: brass boltzmann
she says Gleeson is going to do adversarial briefing.
not sure that was a good argument.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40403195) |
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Date: June 12th, 2020 10:58 AM Author: brass boltzmann
Wilkins is denying it on political grounds.
Henderson is denying it on procedural grounds.
Rao is now harder to figure out.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40403202) |
Date: June 12th, 2020 11:03 AM Author: brass boltzmann
Wilkins is trying to make the case turn on a white cop beating a black man and the DOJ dropping the case on the secret undisclosed grounds that juries won't believe black witnesses.
o wat a trenchant analysis!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40403222) |
Date: June 12th, 2020 11:07 AM Author: rusted indirect expression
Where did Sydney Powell go to law school?
She seems pretty dumb, but an excellent political opportunist.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40403234) |
Date: June 12th, 2020 6:56 PM Author: Sepia heady station
Exceptionally bad thread.
What's going on here?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40406212) |
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Date: June 13th, 2020 3:48 PM Author: brass boltzmann
1. to this day, no one can say with certainty what Flynn said in the interview. it's lost to history.
2. all we have are some shorthand notes of an FBI agent who was there specifically to spring a perjury trap.
3. we do not have the original 302. for now, it appears lost to history.
4. the extant 302 was supposed to be completed within 5 days by the people who conducted the interview. we know that it was still being edited weeks later by the severely politically biased lovebirds, Page and Strzok.
5. and yet, despite all that, both Pientka and Strzok declared that they thought Flynn was not being deceitful.
6. as for proving perjury beyond a reasonable doubt, you have two critical facts: (i) no human being can say what Flynn's exact words were, and (ii) the biased agents sent to trap him concluded he was not lying.
7. Flynn, faced with the facts that he could not prove what he said, that the DOJ would apparently have multiple witnesses swearing he said certain things, and that DOJ was threatening to charge his son with felonies, did what a lot of innocent people do: he pled guilty.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40410170) |
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Date: June 13th, 2020 4:44 PM Author: brass boltzmann
1. to this day, no one can say with certainty what Flynn said in the interview. it's lost to history.
2. all we have are some shorthand notes of an FBI agent who was there specifically to spring a perjury trap.
3. we do not have the original 302. for now, it appears lost to history.
4. the extant 302 was supposed to be completed within 5 days by the people who conducted the interview. we know that it was still being edited weeks later by the severely politically biased lovebirds, Page and Strzok. (why was a virulently anti-Trump "resistance" lawyer editing the recollections of the agent? everyone says it was wildly irregular.)
5. and yet, despite all that, both Pientka and Strzok declared that they thought Flynn was not being deceitful.
6. as for proving perjury beyond a reasonable doubt, you have two critical facts: (i) no human being can say what Flynn's exact words were, and (ii) the biased agents sent to trap him concluded he was not lying.
7. Flynn, faced with the facts that he could not prove what he said, that the DOJ would apparently have multiple witnesses swearing he said certain things, and that DOJ was threatening to charge his son with felonies, did what a lot of innocent people do: he pled guilty.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40410527) |
Date: June 12th, 2020 10:51 PM Author: Sepia heady station
Why didn't Flynn's lawyer argue that whatever discretion the court has to not dismiss here is designed to protect the defendant? In this case, there's no argument that not dismissing would protect the defendant's rights, therefore the court has no possible alternative but to dismiss. Am I correct that all the other cases in which a judge examines a motion to dismiss charges, the purpose of the examination was to make sure the dismissal was not infringing on the defendant's rights?
Edit: She kept saying there was no case or controversy, but she didn't explain exactly why there was no case or controversy given the court's power to decide whether or not to grant a motion to dismiss. Surely she could have explained why, such as the fact that the discretion is *only* to protect a defendant.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4558257&forum_id=2#40407323) |
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