Why don’t white people just say Black Lives Matter? Who gives a shit?
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Date: June 20th, 2020 2:00 PM Author: Carnelian kitchen pocket flask
The meaning of the term in the current political contest is "The US is a systemically racist society in which the primary threat to black lives is white supremacy. White people are inherently guilty and sinful due to their participation in a white supremacist power structure. All the success of the US is based not on liberty, individual initiative, and freedom, but on the exploitation of slave labor. The path forward for reform involves reorganizing the US along more socialist lines, ending the police, and a moral and legal second class status for whites."
Ya bro can't imagine why white folks wouldn't wanna go along with that lol
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Date: June 20th, 2020 2:24 PM Author: Carnelian kitchen pocket flask
There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil. The man who is wrong still retains some respect for truth, if only by accepting the responsibility of choice. But the man in the middle is the knave who blanks out the truth in order to pretend that no choice or values exist, who is willing to sit out the course of any battle, willing to cash in on the blood of the innocent or to crawl on his belly to the guilty, who dispenses justice by condemning both the robber and the robbed to jail, who solves conflicts by ordering the thinker and the fool to meet each other halfway. In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win. In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit. In that transfusion of blood which drains the good to feed the evil, the compromiser is the transmitting rubber tube . . .
When men reduce their virtues to the approximate, then evil acquires the force of an absolute, when loyalty to an unyielding purpose is dropped by the virtuous, it’s picked up by scoundrels—and you get the indecent spectacle of a cringing, bargaining, traitorous good and a self-righteously uncompromising evil.
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Date: June 20th, 2020 3:02 PM Author: Motley ultramarine church son of senegal
The flaw in your premise is that you fail to apply your question to each side. I agree with you, people shouldn't give a shit.
Many people fight the term "black lives matters" off putting because it seemingly focuses on race and gives them special treatment, whereas they would prefer to live in a world that is colorblind.
Many people fight the term "all lives matters" because they feel like it is marginalizing what the issue is about which is racism against black Americans.
But to say that it is the "all lives matters" folks who "care" about the semantics here is incredibly dumb. There are few if any corporations or blue checks criticizing people saying BLM. People have been promptly fired and lives have been ruined for saying all lives matters.
The mob who cares about this language is entirely on one side.
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Date: June 20th, 2020 4:09 PM Author: Federal copper foreskin toaster
nobody argues that lives dont matter.
BLM actually involves taking right away from whites and "defunding" the police because 9 black guys died last year while the black community commits a disproportionate amount of the crime in this country. saying "BLM" reframes the debate incorrectly
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Date: June 20th, 2020 10:42 PM Author: iridescent histrionic base trump supporter
Because it means "black lives matter but are being treated by the police as if they don't," which is false.
"On the most extreme use of force—officer-involved shootings—we find no racial differences either in the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account."
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/pdfplus/10.1086/701423
"We find no evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities across shootings, and White officers are not more likely to shoot minority civilians than non-White officers."
https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2019/07/16/1903856116.full.pdf
"However, blacks are not more likely than non-Hispanic whites to be killed or injured during a stop/arrest..."
https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/injuryprev/23/1/27.full.pdf
"Findings suggest that Black suspects were not disproportionately the target of police shootings; Black suspects were approximately one third as likely to be shot as other suspects. This finding challenges the current bias narrative and is consistent with the other race-related findings in recently published research."
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0011128718756038
"I find that decedent characteristics, criminal activity, threat levels, police actions, and the setting of the lethal interaction are not predictive of race, indicating that the police—given contact—are killing blacks and whites under largely similar circumstances. The findings suggest that the racial disparity in the rate of lethal force is most likely driven by higher rates of police contact among African Americans rather than racial differences in the circumstances of the interaction and officer bias in the application of lethal force."
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/703541
"The results indicate that neither the racial composition of neighborhoods nor their level of economic disadvantage directly increase the frequency of police shootings, whereas levels of violent crime do—but only to a point."
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1745-9133.12174
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