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working in a secondary market when $ is not an issue
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Date: October 5th, 2006 12:14 PM Author: magenta diverse legal warrant i go to a t14 and have received offers from biglaw (lower V100) in NYC and from biglaw (200+ attorneys) in a secondary midwestern market (Minneapolis) - 105K.
The hours are un-comparable: average annual associate billable hours at the MN firm is 1775. My family owns millions so money is not an issue for me - I will probably be managing the family business later on in life.
I don't want to kill myself working long hard hours in NYC. Is the Minneapolis firm the obvious choice? |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 12:15 PM Author: Rambunctious deranged shrine Yes, unless you have family/GF/etc reason to stay in NYC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6732980) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 12:17 PM Author: beady-eyed iridescent immigrant box office Do you have any preference between the two cities? They're both nice places, but quite different. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6732984) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 12:18 PM Author: magenta diverse legal warrant ive lived in Minneapolis for 3 yrs but not in NYC. I visited NYC once and hated it. Minneapolis is OK except the weather (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6732991) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 2:32 PM Author: beady-eyed iridescent immigrant box office Then take the Minneapolis job. You certainly shouldn't work in New York if you don't know the city well and don't like what you do know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6733855) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 2:53 PM Author: magenta diverse legal warrant Rowan,
have you lived in Minneapolis? In what context? How would you compare the cities? |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 2:58 PM Author: beady-eyed iridescent immigrant box office Yes, I've lived in Minneapolis.
Well...I guess they're both cities with cold winters and some degree of cultural life. I can't think of a whole lot that's similar beyond that. New York lacks the relatively low cost of living, the family friendliness (partly because of the previous thing), the car culture, the classic Minnesota nice, and the more laid back Midwestern atmosphere. It has better food, much better nightlife, a few typical New York personalities you're not as likely to find in Minneapolis, good public transportation, more diversity of almost everything, and probably a better social scene for people over a certain age. |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 3:00 PM Author: magenta diverse legal warrant thank you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6734018) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 3:33 PM Author: Mahogany 180 sandwich I can't imagine why the fuck you'd pick NYC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6734248) |
Date: October 5th, 2006 12:17 PM Author: floppy heaven Enjoy estate tax pwnage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6732985) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 3:36 PM Author: Mahogany 180 sandwich Yeah, it'd be *so* hard to avoid that if you have a family-owned corporation and a semi-competent lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6734267) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 12:20 PM Author: magenta diverse legal warrant will my exit options be severly limited if I would want to move out of the twin cities later on in life? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6732998) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 12:23 PM Author: Aquamarine house Why would you give a fuck? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6733013) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 12:24 PM Author: magenta diverse legal warrant i want to keep my options open (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6733021) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 12:26 PM Author: Aquamarine house You won the life lottery. Now fuck it up by being a workaholic or not. Those are your two options right now. |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 2:29 PM Author: magenta diverse legal warrant any other comments? anyone have anything good to say about NYC biglaw? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6733831) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 2:32 PM Author: beady-eyed iridescent immigrant box office Well, I'm fine with it. But I like New York and am more concerned with salary/future options than you are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6733858) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 2:35 PM Author: sticky elastic band I may be one of the only ones here saying this, but secondary markets are the way to go. Your money goes much further, and you have MUCH greater prestige among laymen (i.e. chicks) than you would in a place like LA or NYC. I don't understand the facination with NYC on this place, when you can do so much better rocking it in a secondary market. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6733881) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 3:37 PM Author: Mahogany 180 sandwich I agree. The primary biglaw markets are exactly where I don't want to be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6734279) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 3:03 PM Author: pearly adventurous stage mood Given your OP, it sounds like the best option would be taking the job that will prepare you best for running your family business. Do either of the two firms have clients in a similar industry? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6734036) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 3:20 PM Author: magenta diverse legal warrant the general area of the business is real estate and both firms practice in these areas. However, my family and their business is located abroad and is worth between $40 and $50 million.
The MN firm seems to have a broader range of clients including family-owned and smaller businesses. However, NYC is more international.
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Date: October 5th, 2006 3:23 PM Author: floppy heaven Why don't you just do nothing. Working at a firm in Minnesota would suck dick, and long hours in NYC is even worse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6734177) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 3:26 PM Author: magenta diverse legal warrant now why didn't i think of that before i came to fucking law school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6734199) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 3:34 PM Author: Curious skinny woman why are you going to law school, if money is no object? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6734253) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 3:38 PM Author: Mahogany 180 sandwich He's trying to be cool like JFK, Jr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6734288) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 4:08 PM Author: magenta diverse legal warrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6734444) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 4:11 PM Author: Mahogany 180 sandwich Don't be shy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6734461) |
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Date: October 5th, 2006 3:56 PM Author: yellow pocket flask this feels like flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=500617&forum_id=2#6734380) |