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Time to admit it: I hate my Tesla
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Date: February 7th, 2022 2:58 PM Author: pearl resort The electric car experience itself is great: the regenerative breaking, the gearless acceleration, the low center of gravity, the spectacular control and turning, and having the equivalent of a gas pump in my garage. It’s clear to me that electric cars are vastly superior to gas powered cars in everything except maybe a few small niches where electricity is hard to get to.
However, the problems start with the user interface. Tesla got rid of the entire dashboard and instead put everything in the center console screen. Everything from speed, direction, charge remaining, etc. You also have to use the center screen to run your air conditioning, open your glovebox, or change the fan settings. The problem with this is that you get no haptic feedback for any of it. You have to take your eyes off the road and stare at the screen to turn your fan up. In a normal car interface, you can feel the button and feel the feedback as you turn it up. In a Tesla, you’re just blindly tapping on a screen that’s bouncing with the car. It’s really annoying.
But the icing on the cake is that Tesla keeps changing the UI up. You have to relearn where every control is because they keep “updating” the interface. Relearning this is shit is already annoying, but the updates keep putting more and more things behind menus. You used to be able to turn on your seat warmers from the Home Screen; now you have open a menu up to do it. Same thing with adjusting your seat position settings, and opening the glovebox. The interface with your phone for calls and music is just an absolute disaster now; Tesla clearly wants tos tart their own music service and have Tesla owners pay for it.
Tesla, just fucking stop making your product worse. You’re taking an awesome new product and just giving the market to your competitors. |
Date: February 7th, 2022 3:01 PM Author: pearl resort Everything is 10-15% harder in a Tesla than a normal vehicle, and there is absolutely no reason for this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924252) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:33 PM Author: Beady-eyed walnut principal's office trump supporter There are a lot of reasons for it actually. It reduces weight and cost substantially. By putting the console in the middle, Tesla can easily make the same car right or left-side drive. Teslas are built more like Ikea furniture, with lots of the interior made with cheap, lightweight particleboard and plastic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924511) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:42 PM Author: frum apoplectic church CRRR. That's why Tesla margins are so FAT and partly why the valuation is so fucking high. Once Berlin and Austin start producing cars they will be selling millions of units with 30% margins or higher. It's not good for the consumer, but it's great for Tesla. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924586) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:04 PM Author: Beady-eyed walnut principal's office trump supporter 30%? No wonder Bezos is MAF. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924736) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:01 PM Author: Appetizing painfully honest becky corn cake You have to program your favorite stuff to be at the top level. Also you need to learn voice commands. It can learn your habits very naturally. And wtf are you adjusting a fan for when you have automatic climate control (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924260) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:05 PM Author: pearl resort The very fact that I have to take time out of my day to “program” shit to be “at the top” is why I hate this garbage. Fuck cars that rely on voice commands and “learning” your habits. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924283) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:41 PM Author: arousing stage wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924576) |
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Date: February 8th, 2022 10:26 AM Author: sienna irradiated striped hyena liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43929296) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:04 PM Author: Sticky Stage that sounds annoying as fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924274) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:07 PM Author: pearl resort The car itself is great. It’s the “Tesla” elements that are annoying AF. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924306) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:06 PM Author: Jet-lagged boyish whorehouse Fuck, you're scaring me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924299) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:07 PM Author: motley tanning salon Doesn’t it have voice command? Can’t you ask like a pleb to “open the glovebox” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924310) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:10 PM Author: pearl resort Fuck voice commands. I don’t even like talking; I say maybe 500 words per day. Fuck talking to a car, and double fuck any car that depends on listening to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924328) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:13 PM Author: motley tanning salon 180000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924349) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:41 PM Author: arousing stage wrinkle yeah, like those gay automated phone interfaces that don't let you dial your options, you have to talk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924580) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:48 PM Author: puce glittery affirmative action locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924641) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:07 PM Author: amber cruise ship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924750) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:09 PM Author: federal international law enforcement agency antidepressant drug ROR!!!!
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:10 PM Author: Adventurous Self-absorbed Voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43925097) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:11 PM Author: Tripping range This. I want to murder any fag that gets excited by Alexa or any of these other talking thingies. Fuck that shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43925106) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:14 PM Author: disrespectful drunken kitchen double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43925125) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:15 PM Author: Laughsome medicated windowlicker cuckold BEEP BEEP BEEP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43925136) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:20 PM Author: azure submissive pocket flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43925169) |
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Date: May 14th, 2022 7:33 PM Author: grizzly supple dysfunction corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#44512835) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:07 PM Author: aqua stead and another thing i was right about. TBF where you at faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924312) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:09 PM Author: onyx trailer park To be fair,
Tesla is dun here, I admit it. This is veddy veddy bad, how much will you make shorting TSLA? (I am broke and gay and retarded so I can’t afford to do that but please share your plan with us here so I can live vicariously through your genius and wealth brother.) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:08 PM Author: Thirsty slippery step-uncle's house haunted graveyard These cars are annoying as fuck. My wife wanted one when we bought a new car about a year ago, I refused to consider it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924319) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:12 PM Author: pearl resort Good call. Electric cars are clearly the future, but the Tesla elements suck. I would kill for a “dumb” car that doesn’t try to get between me and driving so it can monetize something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924344) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:14 PM Author: Thirsty slippery step-uncle's house haunted graveyard Lack of physical climate control buttons is enough for me to refuse to buy a car. Ghastly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924360) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:39 PM Author: pearl resort Yeah, I would recommend going another route if you want an electric car. Tesla’s UI leaves a lot lacking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924559) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:10 PM Author: violet cuck juggernaut I hate Tesla but your post makes it seem like the pros outweigh the cons (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924331) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:14 PM Author: pearl resort Electric cars are awesome, but you’ll get the pros with any brand of electric vehicle, not just Tesla.
Now imagine you have to relearn where every button in your car is two or three times a year. That’s the Tesla experience. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 8:55 PM Author: emerald wagecucks Especially now that you can buy a Hyundai Ioniq 5 and get all the benefits of electric without all the faggy Tesla stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43926501) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:11 PM Author: disrespectful drunken kitchen double fault test drove a model x last summer and was very disappointed. over a weekend of driving there was a series of weird glitches, ranging from annoying (door auto closing on my leg while i was texting - was halfway out of car and my leg was on the pavement) to outright dangerous (the car just coming to a screeching halt in middle of an empty highway at ~midnight for no apparent reason). also the battery life was SPS.
got a GLS and it's about 100x better experience and comfort. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:16 PM Author: pearl resort Yeah, I’ve had a couple annoying experiences where I’m using cruise control, but an exit ramp lane starts splitting off of the right lane and the Tesla slams the brakes on because it can’t determine which lane I’m in or the car ahead of me is in. They tried to make the thing too smart and just made it annoying instead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924381) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:43 PM Author: arousing stage wrinkle lol wow
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:00 PM Author: disrespectful drunken kitchen double fault it happened to you too? ljl
i talked to this indian bro at a tesla charging station and told him about the braking, and hes like "yea, that happens sometimes". im like wtf, not buying this car lol. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:24 PM Author: frum apoplectic church They call it "phantom breaking" and it happens CONSTANTLY! There's a NHTSA investigation going on. Tesla might be without any self driving soon if the feds prevent them from making it an option due to danger lmao.
Going from 65 to 35MPH on the high way is a guaranteed way to get rear ended |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:45 PM Author: yellow theatre the dumbest part is that it obviously doesn't work and thousands of sucker retards have donated money to skrillionaire elon for "full self driving" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924948) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:25 PM Author: Burgundy Menage Candlestick Maker also sounds like huge fun in any place with icy winter roads. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43925201) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:08 PM Author: Beady-eyed walnut principal's office trump supporter This sounds like a series of lawsuits waiting to happen, from drivers who get rear-ended as well as the ppl who slam into them. I might be on board with Biden banning this shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924752) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:11 PM Author: frum apoplectic church I just got my Model 3 Performance two days ago. I thought I would hate the screen and having to learn where all the buttons are, but then I discovered the voice commands and that changed the entire game. It's literally just as good as Google Assistant. I had it open the glove box, change temp, turn on heated seats/wheel, open trunk/frunk, etc. It's really actually very awesome and alleviates all the problems you mention. I have voice controls in my BMW X5 too, but that's a gimmick that barely works, the Tesla voice controls are very, very good ,at least on the latest models. A friend with a Model Y from 2021 said his voice controls suck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924337) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:19 PM Author: racy shivering crackhouse doctorate Computer, recline driver seat to full.
Computer, accelerate to top speed.
Computer, drive me into that bridge embankment. Computer! Computer!! |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:21 PM Author: insane shrine Computer, please make this appear to be a legitimate fatal single car accident. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924415) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:35 PM Author: motley tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924527) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:20 PM Author: pearl resort I find voice commands to be so annoying, it’s unreal. Add in passengers or kids and the reliance on voice commands sends me into a barely-contained rage.
In the last 18 months of owning my Tesla, the only improvement they have made is that my wife can no longer adjust the cruise control from the passenger seat. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:24 PM Author: frum apoplectic church Sorry friend. Yeah I get it w/ multiple people in the car. I'm usually driving alone the majority of the time, so that doesn't affect me.
You are 100% absolutely right about software changes that make things worse. Tesla owners spent 2-3 yrs learning where things are, only for the holiday update to completely change everything. It's a huge safety hazard for them to do that. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:29 PM Author: pearl resort The thing that gets me is that the voice commands aren’t even convenient. You still have to push and hold a button to activate it, then say the right phrase. You used to be able to just push a button and get what you want; voice commands are just an extra step masquerading as convenience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924485) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:15 PM Author: comical fluffy factory reset button gas station plus the interior looks like shit. lucid air is the potus of electric cars (won motor trend car of the year).
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:17 PM Author: onyx trailer park To be fair,
Tesla Bears: You know you’re on the right side of this when literal meth head white trash homosexual convicted felon “Benzo” — who doesn’t have $200 in his checking account to poast bail for his latest felony arrest and almost certainly no longer holds a driver’s license — shares your sentiments about this luxury product and holds very strong views about what features definitely make other luxury EV cars way better than that Tesla trash. Guess he read all of those smart articles in those smart magazines, too. Seems like you guys are on the same page, being all elite and smart and whatnot. Congrats! |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:21 PM Author: comical fluffy factory reset button gas station you're just a long winded rsf who keeps repeating the same shit. i'm sure you'll be up tonight until 4 in the morning writing insane screeds about jews that will be ignored by the entire board (again). so yeah, i guess you'd be the authority on meth use. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924418) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:21 PM Author: onyx trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924423) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:20 PM Author: galvanic really tough guy lodge Do you even have a car? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924408) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:27 PM Author: exciting magenta trust fund I think hes more of a gas car guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924466) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:31 PM Author: territorial market dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924492) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:27 PM Author: Lascivious light selfie old irish cottage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924869) |
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Date: March 15th, 2022 7:24 PM Author: Concupiscible glassy puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#44154752) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:27 PM Author: pearl resort All these modern cars are shit because they keep trying to make them “smart” rather than just letting you drive to the grocery store. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924469) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:20 PM Author: insane shrine why do you have to tell it to open the fucking glove box? what kind of shit is that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924410) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:23 PM Author: pearl resort The glovebox doesn’t have a button; you have to open it from the computer screen. This allows you to lock it with a PIN, which I actually like. The problem is they have gone from being able to open the glovebox from the home screen to having to open a menu first and pressing a big obvious button to now opening a menu and having to find the poorly placed button. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924433) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:28 PM Author: insane shrine So if you just want to quickly grab something from or throw something into your glovebox, you have to turn on the car, go through a bunch of menus and enter the pin? This would drive me fucking insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924478) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:31 PM Author: pearl resort Yup, though to be fair, the car is always “on,” because it’s just a computer attached to electric engines. You turn the screen on by sitting in the drivers seat. It’s not particularly convenient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924497) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:54 PM Author: Burgundy Menage Candlestick Maker this is worse than steve jobs autism. lets add $350 and a bunch of complexity to remove a simple latch everyone is happy with (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924680) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:58 PM Author: arousing stage wrinkle *TBF rushing in to sarcastically state that it would be a miracle if Tesla fails as spectacularly as Apple has* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924700) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:24 PM Author: Abnormal shimmering pozpig orchestra pit I despise "voice" technology and will never allow it in my home. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924446) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:39 PM Author: pearl resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924561) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:40 PM Author: Jet-lagged boyish whorehouse Oh, do you also do privacy and information security law? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924573) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:43 PM Author: frum apoplectic church What if you can use Alexa to beckon Chad to ur apt?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924596) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:54 PM Author: Abnormal shimmering pozpig orchestra pit Hmmm sounds 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43925002) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:47 PM Author: blue sanctuary fat ankles TY for this post. We have a Model Y on order for the wife. We hated how everything was hidden in the touch screen, but ultimately ordered it for the self-driving capabilities. She drives 150-mile trip frequently.
Is there an alternative you can recommend? |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:49 PM Author: yellow theatre lol at self driving (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924650) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:44 PM Author: blue sanctuary fat ankles What is to LOL about? We've tested friend's Tesla and the FSD worked great on long freeway drives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43925311) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:50 PM Author: frum apoplectic church LOL, you should cancel ASAP if your wife plans to use autopilot. They got rid of radar in latest models and rely only on the cameras and there's a TON of teething pains, even on old school ADAS systems like adaptive cruise control and lane keep assist. A $30K Toyota or Hyundai will have safer and more reliable lane keep and adaptive cruise than the Tesla. Teslas used to be better, but the hardware change has made Autopilot significantly worse. Also, I hope you didn't pay $12K for FSD lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924660) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:32 PM Author: Internet-worthy national This is bs. After removing radar, Teslas were tested to be just as safe:
https://electrek.co/2021/06/29/tesla-vision-active-safety-features-with-radar-test/ |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 8:59 PM Author: frum apoplectic church Can you read? Those tests have nothing to do with AutoPilot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43926520) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 7:44 PM Author: pearl resort Unfortunately I don’t really have an alternative to recommend d at the moment. I am waiting for my current Tesla to hit replacement age and then I’m going to go all in on EV research. Hopefully the options will be much better in a few years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43926081) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 7:50 PM Author: frum apoplectic church I just bought my EV a few days ago... All the options suck, Teslas suck the least. They have continuously improved the cars though, so the latest models are better than what you bought, but the screen will be the same :/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43926108) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 8:40 PM Author: pearl resort Dang, that’s too bad. It does feel like there will be a lot of new EVs coming to market in the next couple of years, but those manufacturers will have their learning curves as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43926400) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 8:46 PM Author: frum apoplectic church Cr. Hyundai/Kia and Ford have the best EV alternatives right imo. BMW is right behind, and then VW/Audi. There’s some good options, but they all have glaring weaknesses (slow charging speed, no charging network, not fast and fun like Teslas). The new kids on the block are making some cool cars , but you have to be insane to spend $70K on a brand new EV company product with zero support network. At least there’s a few hundred Tesla service centers. There’s almost zero Rivian/Lucid ones. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43926443) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 8:59 PM Author: emerald wagecucks Slick move, but think of the kids. Divorce isn’t great, but if kids in the picture it’s better than this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43926523) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:49 PM Author: puce glittery affirmative action locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924649) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:53 PM Author: frum apoplectic church It sucks now due to software and hardware changes. The number of NHTSA complaints went up 100x and there's an active investigation into it lmao
The car has problems with shadows, sunny weather, and oncoming traffic. It will slow down from 65 to 35 if an oncoming semi passes you lmao. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:53 PM Author: puce glittery affirmative action locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924677) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:57 PM Author: frum apoplectic church Nah. Elon wanted to go ALL in on vision only, so there's teething pains. It's also possible that it will never be as good again if vision only is not able to get back to the same level as vision + radar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924697) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:59 PM Author: puce glittery affirmative action locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924704) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:00 PM Author: frum apoplectic church Not looking at the road?? Nah man lmao. No car manufacturer is anywhere close to that lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924711) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:06 PM Author: puce glittery affirmative action locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924742) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:08 PM Author: frum apoplectic church https://youtu.be/AVOf4TmRZFU?t=305
Here is what the latest beta looks like. You won't even have access to this feature even if you pay $12K for it, because only "select" people can turn it on. It's fine I guess, but lol at not paying attention to the road. It will kill you within a week if you aren't ready to take control within a microsecond. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:12 PM Author: Beady-eyed walnut principal's office trump supporter So it's like riding in an uber with a really shitty driver. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924786) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:13 PM Author: puce glittery affirmative action locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924794) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:22 PM Author: frum apoplectic church https://youtu.be/sbSDsbDQjSU?t=161
https://youtu.be/sbSDsbDQjSU?t=204
Completely fine! :) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:25 PM Author: puce glittery affirmative action locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924855) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:27 PM Author: frum apoplectic church Ur going to go to jail friend. You won't be able to sue Tesla when ur car runs over and kills a pedestrian b/c there's a camera inside the car that looks at you. Technically you are not supposed to take ur eyes off the road or your hands off the wheel with AP/FSD engaged. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924867) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:37 PM Author: puce glittery affirmative action locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924914) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:17 PM Author: onyx trailer park To be fair,
It’s true, you’re not even supposed to breathe while operating the car in FSD mode because of the heightened risks that movement in your chest and upper body can pose as you tightly grip the wheel. There’s a whole hose thing that you stick up your ass to oxygenate your body instead, it’s a $4k add on but it’s totally worth it. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:25 PM Author: onyx trailer park To be fair,
I have personally ridden inside a Tesla many times at this point that was on FSD mode (the standard not the beta) and yes it basically does drive itself on highways. I have never once felt scared of a move it made on a highway. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:26 PM Author: puce glittery affirmative action locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924865) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:28 PM Author: frum apoplectic church There's a difference between AP and FSD, there's also a huge difference between blended ADAS and vision only ADAS. As a TSLA owner, you should know that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924875) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:32 PM Author: onyx trailer park To be fair,
I have spent hundreds of hours researching the EV market and EV tech over the last few years. But thanks for explaining that to me! You sound very smart, so just to confirm — is Tesla with FSD (I am using they colloquially because that’s how people commonly refer to it) a deathtrap on highways unless you are constantly paying close attention and correcting its many mistakes, or is it not? Also, how many hours have spent in that scenario to inform your opinion on that?
I also never said that I own a Tesla, I said I have spent many hours inside of them at this point. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:53 PM Author: frum apoplectic church Autopilot is dangerous now and I do not plan to use it on my M3P any time soon... it's not worth getting rear ended only to have a brand new car waiting in the shop for 3-6 months to get fixed... a friend got into a fender bender with his MY and he had to wait 4 months for a new bumper...
I assumed you owed TSLA stock, which is what I was referring to, not the cars. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:18 PM Author: ebony hell You don't own a Tesla? Isn't that kind of like a Lasik surgeon with thick glasses? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43925159) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 8:43 PM Author: pearl resort I use it to drive home if I’ve had alcohol. I wouldn’t drive drunk, but it’s nice to have to minimize any possibility of getting pulled over. I just have the driver assistance, not the full autonomous driving, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43926421) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:50 PM Author: Swashbuckling lavender death wish Tesla, roll down my window. I’m an my breaking point and I’m going to throw a big turd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924653) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:44 PM Author: motley tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924945) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:51 PM Author: cerebral balding area i don't see how a tesla is a real car. the company can remotely disable the entire thing without your permission if it wants. it's more like a rented computer that you don't even properly own or control. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924663) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:19 PM Author: ebony hell How long does Tesla support the software for its cars? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43925165) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:40 PM Author: Internet-worthy national Weird that so many ITT are spreading nonsense FUD. Yeh, Tesla keeps selling record amounts of cars every quarter because people don't know that Tesla will just disable shit to fuck with them. I'm sure you'll link some stupid article about someone's FSD being disabled because Tesla realized it was added in error since it was never purchased. That is completely reasonable. What you seem to be arguing is absolute bs and wouldn't occur successfully in a free-market country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43925287) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 7:38 PM Author: cerebral balding area does the company have this capacity or not?
if it does, can it be disabled?
the answer to both questions appears to be 'no.'
therefore, it's not a real car in the traditional sense. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:53 PM Author: Mind-boggling genital piercing Seems like these Teslas are at least five years away from having their shit together. I’d like to thank the early adopters for working out all of these glitches for me. Hopefully you are being well compensated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924679) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 3:55 PM Author: Sepia rigor i engage a clutch by mashing a pedal and then shift into a gear of my choosing.
my ac/heater has three knobs. my seat has one rack and one knob. my window admittedly is powered by a small motor in one vehicle, manual in the other.
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:13 PM Author: Beady-eyed walnut principal's office trump supporter I have a high end luxury car from the 90s with low miles that I inherited. It was kept in climate controlled garage and driven <2k miles/yr. I get crazy offers every time I take it for a drive but will never sell it. The seats alone weigh as much as new Elantra. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924798) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:35 PM Author: Impressive bawdyhouse mediation lol at faggy new cars
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/bmw/850csi/2530277.html |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:09 PM Author: Beady-eyed walnut principal's office trump supporter Yeah, now imagine the factory stereo was ripped out and replaced with all Alpine and Kenwood gear, bluetooth everything. I had a GPS head unit with a touchscreen at one point, but I replaced it with a single-DIN unit that has actual buttons and a good DSP. Those old cars are so quiet you can blast everything on max and people outside the car barely hear a thing. New cars save weight by getting rid of all that soundproofing material.
Also that car is sweet but mine has lower miles, my seats are in better condition and my engine compartment is cleaner. That's a much cooler car overall but mine is faster. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:03 PM Author: aqua stead it's obvious why everything is behind a screen by the way. they want to charge you for services a la carte in the future either as a subscription or as a way to activate features permanently after purchasing.
good job supporting quite literally evil kike GC incarnate. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:06 PM Author: frum apoplectic church They're already doing this. They were charging people $2K for a performance upgrade. The motors were the same, they were just nerfed on some models.
But you right, in the future heated steering wheel will be $10/mo. or some shit. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:21 PM Author: onyx trailer park To be fair,
“This is evil and bad and sick because tons of mindless retards will pay for these kinds of add-ons again and again and again and that’s pathetic and a sad commentary on our diseased society. Also, on an entirely unrelated note, Tesla is dun here and needs to stop pretending to be a software company -- that’s never going to work out for them financially so they will soon be subsumed by their competitors!”
Lol this is literally what the Tesla Bears say, unironically. Incredible. |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:43 PM Author: Internet-worthy national Actually Tesla just made rear seats and steering wheels heated as standard. The car is plenty quick without the performance upgrade, so a simple solution for you is to just not buy it if you don't think it's worth it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43925301) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 7:47 PM Author: pearl resort For $1200, I can improve my acceleration from 0-60 in 4.8 seconds to 4.2 seconds. It’s just a software update. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43926093) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:30 PM Author: Excitant dark main people Is this the guy that poasted about Brother printers for a while (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924881) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 7:36 PM Author: pearl resort No. I own two shitty HP Envy printers, courtesy of my wife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43926043) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 7:37 PM Author: Beady-eyed walnut principal's office trump supporter No that was me, but I understand the confusion. I agree that a good UI is everything, and that includes having physical buttons to perform basic functions, like you'll find on every entry-level Brother MFC. My MFC-L5800 has a touchscreen, but it's straightforward and responsive and unchanging. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43926053) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:43 PM Author: Thriller autistic giraffe theater Does TBF literally work for Tesla? His defensive unfunny and RESOLUTELY maintained sarcasm re: any criticism has him poasting at obeezy-level shittiness ITT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924939) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:46 PM Author: arousing stage wrinkle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924950) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:46 PM Author: Excitant dark main people Guessing he's just heavily vested (and if so, good for him) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924952) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:47 PM Author: yellow theatre he's ridden a few successful trends for a few years and had deluded himself into thinking they'll always continue (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924954) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 4:49 PM Author: frum apoplectic church TBF bought TSLA stock when it was $1,200. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43924968) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:05 PM Author: onyx trailer park To be fair,
Being called a dumb gullible idiot time and time again for doing your homework and correctly calling things by a bunch of contrarian faggot lawyers who “read a few articles” on an incredibly complex subject and are therefore totally certain that “[X] is destined to fail and only sheeple believe otherwise” — only to have them then turn around years later when your calls have been completely vindicated and smugly explain that “even a broken clock is right twice a day, good job with the dumb luck I guess” — gets very old after a decade or two. What can I say? |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 5:45 PM Author: Internet-worthy national Yup, it's actually pretty impressive that despite all the bashing online and in the media about Tesla, and the fact that Tesla doesn't advertise, people that actually by them rarely go back to any other brand and convince at least their close friends to make the plunge as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43925313) |
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Date: February 7th, 2022 8:31 PM Author: onyx trailer park To be fair,
I personally know a lot of true-believing Tesla fanbois who idolize Elon and love fucking around with their tech-toy cars and will definitely be buying Tesla going forward and are literally obsessed with the brand and talk about it with their friends and family members regularly. Not an exaggeration.
Meanwhile, according to XO (and to be clear this appears to be primarily based on second-hand complaints that poasters have read on Reddit), many if not most Tesla owners deeply regret their purchase and now think the cars are SHIT, the company is SHIT, get out while you still can because Ford or Nissan or whoever are coming to drink Tesla's milkshake any day now, etc.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder what to believe -- my own eyes and ears, or second-hand hearsay mostly drawn from a bunch of disgruntled anonymous literal Redditors? That's a tough one, I better "trust the science" here! |
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Date: February 8th, 2022 2:10 AM Author: puce glittery affirmative action locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43927953) |
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Date: February 8th, 2022 3:51 PM Author: Thriller autistic giraffe theater This month's Consumer Reports (I get this and Texas Monthly) confirmed that Tesla is easily number 1 in brand satisfaction among automakers (#2 is Porsche).
Elon Musk is an autistic white-male South African contrarian genius with paleo-conservative and populist impulses and a strong anti-shitlib streak; this site, accordingly, LOVES HIM and roots for him with passion and kinship. Anything else you're seeing is in-group contrarianism or (less likely) real opposition from one of our 3 remaining libs.
None of this has anything to do with the completely legit beef that replacing physical controls with touchscreen isn't analogous to the iPhone replacing physical buttons, both due to the safety issue (operating by feel versus devoting many seconds of eyesight-attention) and because physical cellphone buttons were proving woefully inadequate for controlling the expanding functions of a smart phone, whereas no one has ever complained that it was too cumbersome to turn on their seat heat or open their glove box before Elon Musk came around. |
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Date: February 8th, 2022 4:50 PM Author: onyx trailer park To be fair,
I don't actually disagree with this poast, but:
- Anyone who defends Tesla (either their product of the longterm bullishness of their prospects as a stock to hold) is immediately pilloried as a "pathetic Elon fanboy" or whatever.
- Meanwhile, any degree of angle of attack no matter how patently retarded or trivial -- "this stranger on Reddit says the finish is messed up on his steering wheel" "Brutal takedown by this Asian female automechanic on Instagram of the shitty interior quality of a Tesla" "I ordered a Tesla and their customer service sucks, fuck this company I now badmouth them 24/7 online why yes I do give restaurants 1 star Yelp reviews when I hit bad traffic driving over to eat dinner at them how did you guess?" -- is hailed as THE END for Tesla, WRITING IS ON THE WALL, CAN'T BELIEVE YOU IDIOTS BOUGHT INTO THIS SHIT.
It's all just so gay and retarded and tiresome. The Tesla Bears claim that the Tesla Bulls are obnoxious faggots, but the reality is that they are the worse offenders by far at this point. It's very analogous to cryptoskeptics coming out of the woodwork to shit all over BTCmos and ETHmos for the millionth time whenever there's a dip and then simultaneously claiming that coinmos are the *real* obnoxious assholes. |
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Date: March 15th, 2022 7:22 PM Author: Concupiscible glassy puppy 1.1M likes. this guy is our leading fighter in the culture war (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#44154747) |
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Date: February 8th, 2022 2:17 AM Author: cowardly macaca Didn’t know much about Teslas before reading this. Definitely won’t be buying one now. Sounds really gay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43927975) |
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Date: February 8th, 2022 2:21 AM Author: nudist gay athletic conference codepig Autopilot makes long drives so much better, lol at conscious drivers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#43927983) |
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Date: June 8th, 2022 10:52 AM Author: pearl resort Never mind. with gas at $9/gal, I love my Tesla again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#44647092) |
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Date: December 13th, 2022 10:51 PM Author: Seedy boltzmann Obviously I wouldnt buy this car for myself, but as a stock... has Tesla run into any legal problems of the car breaking on a highway? Also pretty dumb to have autopilot feature and a camera record u as u crash while texting.. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5026310&forum_id=2#45630067) |