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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:38 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Why is the guy always 100% responsible?
For example, take this scenario: a woman goes to a party dressed like a slut, gets drunk, then uses the alcohol to act even more slutty. Then she goes home with a guy. Next day, she feels embarassed and cries rape.
Is the guy 100% at fault?
As a corrolary, what is the public policy decision in lowering the standards for a rape trial? |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:42 AM Author: Autistic Cream Piazza Sex is something a man does to a woman, didn't you know? The only sufficient evidence that a woman has consented to sex is a notarized affidavit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898134) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:51 AM Author: Galvanic generalized bond cuckold I keep my notary stamp and pre-printed forms next to my bed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898186) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:58 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage HYPO: You get the signature and notary stamp WHILE she is drunk. Valid? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898226) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:59 AM Author: Autistic Cream Piazza ok, also time-stamped breathalizer report taken at the time of signing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898233) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:00 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce Haha.
And I thought condoms were unsexy and mood-killing. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:01 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Your kid says the same thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898238) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:03 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce Wow, your jokes really are just like rice krispies: bland and boring.
What are you, 45? |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:05 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage 45? On a scale of 1-45? Yes, 45 indeed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898256) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:06 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce Zing!
You suck. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:07 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage zing? Nice onomatopoeia.
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:12 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce on·o·mat·o·poe·ia (ŏn'ə-măt'ə-pē'ə, -mä'tə-) pronunciation n.
The formation or use of words such as buzz or murmur that imitate the sounds associated with the objects or actions they refer to.
Nice job attempting to seem smart, yet looking stupid. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:15 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Please tell me you are kidding. Please.
This stupidity might explain why you went to Davis Polk. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:16 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce Are you retarded? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898301) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:18 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Hope this helps.
www.wisegeek.com/what-is-onomatopoeia.htm
Fast Motion Onomatopoeia. Words that convey the sound of speed seem often to begin with the letter s or z. Boing, varoom/vroom, whoosh, swish, swoosh, zap, zing, zip, and zoom are examples. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:20 AM Author: Aromatic area how is "zing" supposed to mean fast motion here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898321) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:23 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Farouk, rather than embarass you, I'll just let this one slide. No biggie. We'll just let this thread die now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898335) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:25 AM Author: Aromatic area fuck no...bump your moronic behavior forever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898342) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:25 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce Not me, dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898346) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:21 AM Author: Vivacious Territorial Theater Stage Knife DEFINITIONPWNEDDDDDD!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898324) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:22 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=94443
"Zing" is also an onomatopoeia, usually standing for the noise something small (such as a bee or a tennis ball) makes as it whizzes - zings (verb) - past your ear at extremely high speed. Bees, of course, make a high-pitched noise most of the time in any case, so zing - not being far from buzz - is a pretty good term. Alternatively and most appropriately it is used for the noise a projectile (bullet) makes when ricocheting off something metallic. "PYEEEOW!", maybe, in real life, but in a comic book, you're more likely to read "Zing!" |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:22 AM Author: Aromatic area you really dont get it do you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898334) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:25 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Farouk, Tribal Council has spoken. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898341) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:51 AM Author: Drab gunner incel god you are funny (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898479) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:25 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce The noun zing has 2 meanings:
Meaning #1: a brief high-pitched buzzing or humming sound
Meaning #2: the activeness of an energetic personality
To which was I referring?
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:13 AM Author: vibrant fuchsia space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898290) |
Date: November 1st, 2006 10:41 AM Author: twinkling stead prole i'm not going to debate the point because it's old and boring.
but i wonder does this really happen? the slutty clothes and the morning-after treachery? much as i can dig most any expression of misogyny, i don't think this M.O. is as common as you imagine. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:44 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Umm, did you miss out on college or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898146) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:46 AM Author: Judgmental athletic conference lol. what ttt did you attend that girls were regularly accusing people of rape? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898153) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:46 AM Author: twinkling stead prole um, how many bona fide rape accusations did you hear about at college? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898155) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:47 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Oh I was talking about the girls acting slutty and using alcohol as a reason to act slutty.
Not the rape thing, sorry for the confusion. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:48 AM Author: twinkling stead prole i know i use alcohol as a reason to act slutty. i think everyone does. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898165) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:49 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage But don't you ever have second thoughts.. you know, buyer's remorse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898175) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:49 AM Author: twinkling stead prole eh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898180) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:51 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Especially when half your dorm knows you went home with X... and you wake up and you're like... OMG, X is such an ugly loser.. how could I??
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:51 AM Author: twinkling stead prole evan: "she RAPED me!" dorm: "lolz" |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:53 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Umm.. that really wasn't very funny. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898198) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:54 AM Author: twinkling stead prole it wasn't meant to be funny. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898204) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:54 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce oh.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898207) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:55 AM Author: twinkling stead prole i'm glad you liked it anyway (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898213) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:56 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce Pretty good for a robot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898214) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:56 AM Author: twinkling stead prole ^_^ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898218) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:54 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce Ya it was. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898205) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 12:10 PM Author: purple mad cow disease You've never fooled around with somebody where you regretted doing so later? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898567) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:49 AM Author: Autistic Cream Piazza according to the school paper, an administrator at the ug of my ls required all the freshman to attend a play about date rape. she said 25% of all ugs will have been raped by the end of 4 yrs. she did not explain how you could ethically fuck someone you just met at a party. pretty sure the administrator's a lesbo, too, so maybe she's just anti-male penetration. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898172) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:51 AM Author: twinkling stead prole radical feminists have asinine defs of rape. i know this. even so... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898185) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:46 AM Author: honey-headed keepsake machete center not common but it does happen. example: campus womens center convinces someone they've been raped. this absolutely does happen. look at those famous 1 in 4 rape studies and soemthing like 75% dont believe themsleves that they were raped. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898157) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:49 AM Author: twinkling stead prole yeah, i have my doubts about those statistics for the same sorts for reasons. but that's not quite the step (1) get skanked out, step (2) get slutfucked, step (3) cry rape that the OP is describing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898176) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:51 AM Author: honey-headed keepsake machete center yeah, im just guessing (3) would be the most disputed and i know for a fact this happens *sometimes* and can have serious consequences despite the fact it's bs. the case at duke im thinking of didnt end until the female admitted she didnt think what happened was rape and that the womens center pushed her to press charges anyway, blah blah blah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898187) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:52 AM Author: twinkling stead prole yeah, no doubt it happens every once in a while. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898192) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 10:53 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage I hate the DA in that case. I don't think he realizes that he was fucking up those students' careers by charging them.
If anything, the evidence would make me feel really guilty about putting this on the spotlight.. even if it did allow me to keep my job. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:03 AM Author: vigorous sooty idiot house I can't believe this is people's reaction to rape. As many "fake" rapes as their are (I'm guessing very very few) there are so many more real rapes that happen on college campuses, and I imagine that (*edit) the vast majority of these go un-reported. Hardly any legitimate rapists in college even get taken to court. Why is it that the primary reaction to rape is bitching about the tiny percentage that may not be real rather than outrage that something like this is going on in our community? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898250) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:04 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Because rape is so subjective. You can have a drink, go home with a guy.. sleep with him..
and the guy can be accused of rape at the whim of the woman. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:04 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce Uhhhh...link?
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:07 AM Author: honey-headed keepsake machete center this reaction is based on the fact that a majority of women themselves dont believe the definitions espoused by feminists. legitimate people can think date rape is "fake" rape, women included. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898263) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:08 AM Author: Autistic Cream Piazza Subject: pls answer these questions How can I ethically fuck someone I just met at a party? Don't some women drink so that they can permit themselves to do what they wanted to do anyway, but needed an excuse? |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:08 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Exactly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898270) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:16 AM Author: vigorous sooty idiot house Obviously if a woman is just drunk then it isn't rape, this happens all the time and it's not unethical. But if a woman is like passed out drunk, can't say her own name or sit up then sorry, that should constitute rape. Jesus, I mean, if a girl is super drunk, how hard is it to just say "are you okay with this" before you sleep with her? Is that such a huge inconvenience? People act as if this is a huge problem and innocent guys are getting accused all the time of raping these horrible vindictive sluts.... it's unbelievably misogynistic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898300) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:16 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Why do women put themselves in these situations in the first place, then? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898304) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:20 AM Author: Autistic Cream Piazza why do people drive drunk? drinking per se does not mean a woman wants to have sex. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:17 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce Uhhh...link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898306) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:22 AM Author: vigorous sooty idiot house Looking for data on the number of unreported rapes? Or how many rapes are 'real'? The only groups that impute that (mostly feminist groups) have a clear ideological bias and use already unreliable survey data. I am speaking anecdotally i.e. considering the number of women in college I knew who were legitimately raped (non-zero) and the number of guys I knew who got in trouble because someone cried rape (zero). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898333) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:28 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce Well, I'm convinced. Great argument.
When you have no facts, don't make factual statements. We're talking in hypotheticals here because we don't have any numbers.
HTH. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:38 AM Author: vigorous sooty idiot house Uhh, why don't you read the message you replied to, there were no factual statements in it. In fact the only unsupported assertion I made (in a previous post) was that the majority of rapes go unreported, which I said based on my experience, but fine, I'll edit that one phrase (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898406) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:44 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce Your post is part of a chain......I really don't know what else to say here. If you can't follow a thread line, maybe you shouldn't be posting here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898440) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:18 AM Author: Autistic Cream Piazza I think we can all agree no one should have sex with someone passed-out drunk - that's too much like necrophilia with a fresh corpse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898317) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 12:16 PM Author: Arousing range son of senegal Prude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898596) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:19 AM Author: honey-headed keepsake machete center the problem is what you described is in fact rape according to the horrible definitions adopted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898319) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 12:13 PM Author: Kink-friendly locale roommate "Obviously if a woman is just drunk then it isn't rape,"
That is not obvious to a lot of people. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:09 AM Author: Motley seedy cruise ship cuck I dunno dude ... I went to Duke UG too. I agree that the women's center was a little over zealous. But seriously almost every girl that I knew at Duke well enough to talk about the issue had been raped, date-raped, or sexually assaulted in some way. Some of them put themselves in situations where date rape was highly likely, but some of them didn't. For about half of these girls, their only transgression was to go to a bar or party and be in the wrong place at the wrong time (they weren't drinking excessively or acting sluty, either). Basically it seemed that any girl who was fairly attractive, not a hermit, and not monogomous would have this problem at some point. It's a pretty messed up situation when you think about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898274) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:11 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Girls, if you don't want to be raped, don't get drunk at bars. Easy as that.
If you do get raped, I believe the guy is at fault. Not entirely 100%, however. I mean, you did put yourself in that situation, didn't you? |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:13 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce Flame or stupidity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898289) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:15 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage You do know comments like those won't help you pick up girls on here, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898299) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:17 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce But it will help identify flame and/or retards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898310) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:17 AM Author: vibrant fuchsia space credited (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898307) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:29 AM Author: honey-headed keepsake machete center i do know many women who were sexually assaulted at duke. my own crazy theory: men cannot understand women and rape because of our more aggressive/violent tendencies, i.e. if someone tried to RAPE me in the way it's commonly understood i would try to claw out their eyeballs, literally rip their balls off, etc. RAPE is about the most horrible thing that could happen to anyone, so it doesent make any sense in a non-violent rape situation where their isnt serious physical coercion that females wouldnt fight back. none of the women i know fought back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898366) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 12:07 PM Author: Motley seedy cruise ship cuck I'm sure that happens in some circumstances. But one of my friends was raped after being drugged. It's hard to imagine that the guy didn't know what he was doing.
I think it's just a fact of life that if a fairly attractive woman drinks at a party or bar without close friends who carefully watch and protect her, she is running the risk of getting raped. Women can minimize this risk by buying their own drinks, watching the person who makes them, and having friends/significant others who watch them and don't let them go home with other people if it seems like the woman isn't making a conscious choice. But women who don't do so are placing themselves at risk. (I'll leave judgment as to the morality of this all to others.)
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Date: November 1st, 2006 12:12 PM Author: Autistic Cream Piazza roofieing a chick is unambiguous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898578) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:18 AM Author: Beta hyperactive meetinghouse god this is a tired, inane line of conversation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898315) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:21 AM Author: talented flatulent coffee pot station what should the criminal penalties be for women proven to have filed false rape accusations? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898329) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:25 AM Author: Multi-colored clear juggernaut base cliterodectomy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898343) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:22 AM Author: Autistic Cream Piazza I didn't think about it till I read that the school was making all the freshmen watch a date-rape play. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898332) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:23 AM Author: mischievous buck-toothed clown nibblets You're a rapist. Learn to live with it or kill self. I personally would prefer the latter. tytyty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898336) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:28 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage This is why we will never have any dialogue on the issue. The word "rape" has such a stigma to it that we can't even have a discussion on it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898360) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:29 AM Author: mischievous buck-toothed clown nibblets There's nothing to discuss, rapist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898365) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:31 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Meanie. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898374) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:32 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce We'll just walk MadCat around and get her to point out all the rapists for us. Then we'll just chemically neuter them and call it a day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898380) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:33 AM Author: mischievous buck-toothed clown nibblets I'd prefer to use my switchblade, tyvm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898384) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:33 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Something about your username gives me the feeling that you really don't have much respect for women in any case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898389) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:34 AM Author: mischievous buck-toothed clown nibblets I'm sure you have much respect for women, especially when they're passed out drunk on the floor. Rapist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898391) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:35 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce You're the legendary rapist-finder, we'll defer to your wisdom. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898393) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:36 AM Author: mischievous buck-toothed clown nibblets Hmmm, my radar's going off... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898397) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:37 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce *puts tinfoil hat over filthy rapist brain to block "rapist-waves" from being detected* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898404) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:28 AM Author: Autistic Cream Piazza mcd doesn't need her inhibitions lowered to be able to have sex. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898363) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:49 AM Author: turquoise cerebral institution madcat doesn't even drink, she's just slutty by nature.
i wonder how much of a dworkinian she is. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:53 AM Author: Autistic Cream Piazza I wouldn't say "slutty". But she obviously likes to fuck. Enthusiasm means so much in the bedroom. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898489) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:28 AM Author: Translucent costumed place of business At my undergrad they made every Frat guy go to a rape lecture thing while we were pledges. They told us that it is impossible for someone who is drunk to give consent, so if we have sex with a girl who has been drinking at a frat party then we are rapists. Doesn't seem to make sense to me though, because in most situations where you go to a frat party and meet a girl, you will both have had a few drinks. So if neither of you can consent because you are both drunk, then you are raping each other? Common sense has to be used at some point, but some radical feminazis want to label almost all intercourse as rape. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:30 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage They should start giving rape lectures at Cravath.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10222006/news/regionalnews/lawyer__i_didnt_bed_kid_sisters_regionalnews_elizabeth_wolff________and_brad_hamilton.htm |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:33 AM Author: Translucent costumed place of business 175. nice pwnage |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:35 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage On a more serious note, have they done anything at Cravath to curb the fallout? I mean, this is pretty big news, and as a Cravath partner, I'd be pretty embarassed about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898396) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:37 AM Author: Translucent costumed place of business not really. this was some random non-partnership track Tax associate who had only been there a short time (cravath takes a few non-partnership track lateral associates for certain areas like tax). It's not like it's anything the law firm can control...some guy has sex with girls on the side, what are you going to do about it? It's not like he had any kind of history of this shit. it could happen anywhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898400) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:40 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage I don't know, Cravath's structure troubles me. They don't hire laterally, so the firm will hesitate to fire anyone because it needs the manpower. When it realizes there's a douchebag in the firm, it nevertheless has a strong incentive to keep him on board because they can't get anyone else to fill his shoes.
Perhaps this happened with the child rape guy (he wasn't a lateral I believe... he started there as a 1st year). |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:43 AM Author: Translucent costumed place of business You don't have a very good understanding of how Cravath works. First, there was never any indication that this guy was a potential sexual offender. Second, the entire Cravath system is structured around turnover. They try to hire the best and the brightest to stay there for 3-4 years, then 90% of them leave and a couple stay to make partner. Asserting that they don't want a potential rapist to leave the firm because they won't have anyone to fill his shoes is absurd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898437) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:45 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage What happens if they fired the guy? The rest in the department would have to pick up the slack.
Assuming a plurality of douchebags, you can see how there would be a conflict of interest.
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:47 AM Author: Translucent costumed place of business This is terrible reasoning. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898457) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:48 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce He's an absolute moron.
I think it's Whokebe. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:50 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Did someone say moron?
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898257
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:52 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce You're so stupid that you don't even realize how stupid you are.
You have to Whokebe because nobody else is so dumb while thinking they're so smart. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:48 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Reason? I'm just curious. I don't have anything for or against the firm, but that's something that just came to my mind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898466) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:50 AM Author: Translucent costumed place of business I don't think the lawyers at Cravath are super worried about "filling the void" if an associate leaves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898477) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:53 AM Author: ebony stimulating menage Of course, but there is a breaking point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898493) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:48 AM Author: Autistic Cream Piazza I heard that the big firms give you six months to find another job before they boot your ass out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898465) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:58 AM Author: Translucent costumed place of business Under normal circumstances, yes. But I doubt this rule holds if you are about to make headline news as a sex offender. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898509) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 12:16 PM Author: Autistic Cream Piazza true. I wonder how Wilson Sonsini handled the transition when their teen fucker got arrested a few years ago. |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:45 AM Author: Internet-worthy hissy fit lettuce Whokebe? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898447) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:48 AM Author: honey-headed keepsake machete center the problem is legally this makes sense: sex is an agreement that requires consent, thus no intoxication is a condition. but practically to the layman it will always be bs that, sex with a woman somewhat intoxicated = rape. talking of date rape pollutes the conversation because of this simple fact that most people will never accept it as "real" rape. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898468) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 11:46 AM Author: lemon contagious gaping Date rape?
http://www.realdrunkengirls.net/wm1919/21/index.html |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 12:16 PM Author: Autistic Cream Piazza Girls Gone Wild! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=517012&forum_id=2#6898595) |
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Date: November 1st, 2006 2:01 PM Author: Unhinged very tactful yarmulke casino in new york voluntary intoxication is not a defense to consenting to sex.
date rape is bullshit. i don't think anything other than actual rape should be prosecuted. |