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Ancient Egypt was 180 and gets a bad rap for “no innovation”.
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:07 PM Author: apoplectic abode We got a lot from Egypt. Chemistry comes from kemet which was the old word for Egypt. |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:33 PM Author: Rough-skinned Parlour alCHEMy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742288) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:41 PM Author: dark crotch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742330) |
Date: January 4th, 2023 6:08 PM Author: magical deep black woman theatre wat? ive never heard someone shit on Egyptian history (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742194) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:36 PM Author: Rough-skinned Parlour It's not exactly shitting on it to point out its quirks and "flaws." They went through so many dynasties that inevitably there would be extended periods of chaos and decline in between periods of enlightenment and growth. They were also yugely propagandistic and less concerned with leaving accurate records of who did what. A lot of the time people were trying to take credit for shit that happened 1,000+ years ago, like chiseling their name on the statue of some long dead pharaoh from another dynasty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742301) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 7:19 PM Author: apoplectic abode Yes! Which is what makes stuff so fascinating. Ramses ii was big on that.
His face is the only face you can still gaze on today that was mentioned in the Bible. He was the pharaoh of Moses (“born”) for reals.
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:10 PM Author: Rough-skinned Parlour Their art barely changed for 3,000 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742197) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:12 PM Author: apoplectic abode If you go closer and study it there’s different shit. And the character of pharoahs visible in the subject matter. The spells didn’t change but the expression very very carefully did. Go deeper into the subject and you’ll see. It’s an180 little hobby area of interest and it’s still accessible to regular dumbasses like me. |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:27 PM Author: Rough-skinned Parlour Was there ever anything like an artistic "revolution?" I can't think of any other societies that made it more than a few centuries without someone breaking all the rules and doing something radically different. Even in medieval Europe you have artists trying to draw landscapes and castles and shit in the background when the only thing they were allowed to paint were pictures of Jesus and Mary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742260) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:34 PM Author: apoplectic abode I like your poast. We ther we think similarly or you were influenced by a previous “goofball” poast I add about background art.
To partly answer ur question, not really. The Middle Kingdom started showing book of dead materials in regular bros funeral sites because of grave robbing that occurred during the first intermediate period. Akhnaton changed things for awhile. |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:37 PM Author: Rough-skinned Parlour Ok that sounds right. I need to go back and check on some of this. I do find it lulzy to observe the lengths they went through to discourage grave robbing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742308) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:39 PM Author: apoplectic abode Yeah they had seals on the main entrance but robbers would just go around.
Also pyramids are a lesson in how our greatest plans fail. Beacon to robbers in later dynasties. |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:54 PM Author: Rough-skinned Parlour Eventually they started entombing people in caves on the sides of steep cliffs so that anyone trying to rob them risked falling to their deaths. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742391) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:55 PM Author: apoplectic abode Eh yeah. I’ve been to valley of the kings. It’s just a fucking rocky ass desert. Merchants and priests would try to emulate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742402) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:10 PM Author: apoplectic abode All ancient scholars would try to spend time in Egypt and later Cairo.
Monotheism came from there. Breadbasket of the world thanks to the Nile. Anatomy from mummification process, mad skills with gold. You’d need a master now to make king tuts mask. Architectural innovation, art astronomy |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:10 PM Author: magical deep black woman theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742201) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:30 PM Author: Rough-skinned Parlour Sample bias. Persian scholars seemed less enamored with Egypt but they also didn't write anything down. Greeks and Romans left written works scattered everywhere so our understanding of ancient scholarship is tilted toward their obsessions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742279) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:38 PM Author: apoplectic abode No reason to think Persians we’re not also heavily influenced. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742311) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:45 PM Author: Rough-skinned Parlour Persians were constantly updating their religious iconography to include references to some diety worshipped by some random minority they were trying to appease. They didn't seem wedded too hard on any one understanding of the cosmos. They also had an odd (but admirable) obsession with being truthful. They thought the worst thing you could do was tell a lie. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742353) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:52 PM Author: apoplectic abode Egyptians went out, raided, and came back to Egypt to die because they couldn’t be resurrected unless they were buried on the West Bank properly. Study their component divisions of the soul. Fascinating stuff. |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:29 PM Author: Demanding umber pocket flask deer antler They wouldn't have been able to build the pyramids without the UFO technology the Reticulians gave them, meh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742271) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:35 PM Author: apoplectic abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742299) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:33 PM Author: fiercely-loyal domesticated tank They didn't really develop any philosophy, unless you count hellenized hermeticism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742293) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:36 PM Author: apoplectic abode If you are catholic there is an Egyptian connection. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742304) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:38 PM Author: fiercely-loyal domesticated tank OT is not philosophy except for maybe Job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742312) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:43 PM Author: apoplectic abode A small but financially significant group might disagree w you for good reason but you won’t get it all.
Nice edit btw. Yes Job contains philosophy but so does the story of exodus. |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:45 PM Author: fiercely-loyal domesticated tank I think most catholics get the basic distinction between philosophy and theology better than you, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742351) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:40 PM Author: Rough-skinned Parlour They were weak on a lot of scientific stuff too. Like anatomy - when an Egyptian dood died the first thing they did was tear out all his organs and prep the body for mummification, so they didn't have cadaver labs or anything like that. This could partly explain why they imported so many doctors from Greece. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742324) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:51 PM Author: apoplectic abode Actually and this might be of interest to you given your moniker, not really. The Egyptians were the first to identify a lot of organs and Greeks relied upon and studied in Egypt first. Greek docs studied in Egypt. Sure the Egyptians made mistakes, didn’t recognize gallbladder for example, but they led the way very early on.
The Greco Roman thing being better than Egypt needs significant reappraisal in the common cognomen. The Egyptians had it going on for a long fucking time. Look into it. Think about it. 3000 years. Magic. Spells. Secrets. You think those priests did nothing between putting makeup on their god idols every day and gathering supplications? |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:56 PM Author: Rough-skinned Parlour Ok. But why were Greeks allowed to be doctors and nothing else? Persians also allowed Greek doctors to settle in Anatolia but didn't want other Greeks moving there and doing Greek stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742407) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:58 PM Author: apoplectic abode Not sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742416) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:42 PM Author: Misunderstood Location What do you guys think high, low, and mean IQ was in ancient Egypt? Some of those architect/builder bros must be pushing 140 to make that stuff with no construction equipment and hardly any hand tools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742336) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 7:12 PM Author: apoplectic abode Yeah Imhotep— that’s who you mean I think—was an absolute once every 500 years type genius.
I think during the time of Ramses the Great the country bumpkins were at 85 90 and the priests were at about 115. Some members of the pharaohs counsel would have been geniuses here and there, one or two per generation. Basically same as today. Which says a lot. |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:43 PM Author: Sable senate travel guidebook yeah plus they built these awesome pyramids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742338) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:47 PM Author: Rough-skinned Parlour All the pyramids we're built during a really brief period of a few decades, really early in Egypt's history. When Herodotus went to Egypt, the pyramids were older to ancient Greeks than ancient Greece is to us. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742362) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 6:54 PM Author: apoplectic abode Yes. Old kingdom. Then they wised up and used secret valley of the kings so shit wouldn’t get robbed after a pharaoh ruled too long and weakened the empire.
Edit: check out the Nubians. They had pyramids and copied old kingdom hard. |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 7:25 PM Author: Electric whorehouse Crazy they were thousands of years old by the time of ancient Rome (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742549) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 7:28 PM Author: Thirsty aromatic national dey got dat papyrus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#45742556) |
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Date: January 4th, 2023 7:55 PM Author: apoplectic abode I brought some papyrus art back from Egypt and hung it in my office
It’s better than paper frankly. |
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Date: May 12th, 2024 7:51 PM Author: apoplectic abode its 180 as fuck love dat blue (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#47656623) |
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Date: May 12th, 2024 8:32 PM Author: Chartreuse Rigor Hell Why no pyramid scholarship itt? My theory is that Engineers could figure out how to build pyramids if they had to, and the only reason we don’t know how to build them is because nobody cares to look into it except for liberal artists. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5264939&forum_id=2#47656700) |