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Why did Ukraine cancel their spring offensive?
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:23 PM Author: 180 corn cake box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294036) |
Date: May 10th, 2023 12:24 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship vat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294044) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:25 PM Author: insane cream piazza therapy waiting for uke boi summer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294045) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:28 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Operation Barbarossa and Battle of Kursk are paradigmatic cases where an anticipated attack against Russia took longer than expected, but once unleashed, all hell broke loose (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294057) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:31 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship Operation Barbarossa wasn't an anticipated attack. One major reason for early successes was that the USSR wasn't ready or anticipating the attack. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294071) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:31 PM Author: Provocative khaki striped hyena the soviets were weeks away from launching an offensive war against germany, that's why they weren't prepared to defend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294073) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:34 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship Entirely possible. The German Army was also able to capture a ton of equipment being stockpiled as a result too. But I'm just objecting to the notion that the USSR somehow anticipated this (the way that the Russians are fully expecting a Ukrainian offensive) and that it just came later than expected. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294090) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:07 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Ukraine will have mastered all the previous mistakes from Barbarossa to the Battle of Kursk and Russia will be expelled. That's what is so ironic about this: Nazi Germany paved the way for Ukraine's ultimate military victory over a vanquished Russia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295154) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:10 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship Did you used to run the Rudolph schtick? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295172) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:11 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater the question is how will you accept such a humiliating defeat for mother Russia? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295180) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:14 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship Well, if that happened then we would be living in the Fallout universe since Russia has a ton of nukes. I would have bigger concerns than the fate of the motherland (my family is actually from Ukraine, btw, but w/e). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295196) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:18 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater I'm talking about personal and patriotic pride: Russia as national identity and cultural center- left in utter ruin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295221) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:22 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship DESCRIBE the scenario of how that would happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295237) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:24 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Not only will the military defeat in Ukraine lead to regime change, but civil war will erupt: and Russia will burn itself to the ground, while the outside world watches. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295249) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:30 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship Come up with something somewhat realistic. I can't answer total fantasies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295272) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:32 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater would u at least concede there is a wild card: the people's will in Russia, not the czar's? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295276) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:40 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship LMAO, there isn't even "the people's will" here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295309) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:43 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater spoken like a true foreigner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295323) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:56 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship Quite the opposite. Foreigners are the ones that think our system may actually work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295401) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:34 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater it was no surprise to Stalin-- there just wasn't an adequate response (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294089) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:34 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship Stalin was completely shocked. There wasn't an adequate response because there were zero preparations for this scenario.
In fact, here's the photo of Stalin when he found out about the attack: https://twitter.com/NostalgiaEmpire/status/1470735553800847361
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:36 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Fascists and Bolsheviks are mortal enemies, u fool-- Stalin had just purged/ murdered his entire officer corps (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294103) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:37 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship And as stated above, Stalin expected to attack Hitler. He just didn't anticipate that Hitler would strike first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294108) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:39 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Stalin couldn't attack Hitler, since he was killing off his own remaining white russians (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294117) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:41 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm Stalin invaded Germany and took Berlin, but was otherwise incapable of attacking Hitler... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294128) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:48 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater 1941 vs 1945 is a big difference, study your history (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294164) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:49 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm You're avoiding the point at issue here. You're claiming Stalin could not have effectively invaded Germany first. The fact that Germany invaded Russia first does nothing to support your claim. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294172) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:51 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294189) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:51 PM Author: 180 corn cake box office He has shit for brains (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294191) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:59 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater don't misrepresent my argument-- you're the one who lacks even a basic knowledge of Joe Stalin (the unlikely and somewhat shocking rise to power)- before miraculously turning a losing war effort into the juggernaut destroying the invincible Wehrmacht and later threatening all of Europe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294229) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:04 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm What do you think would have happened if Stalin had invaded Germany in 1940 and not murdered his most experienced military commanders? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294240) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:10 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater the Russian army before the Battle of Stalingrad (23 August 1942 – 2 February 1943) were total losers-- suddenly they became winners-- arguably, Stalin unleashed the greatest strength of Russia which is the proletariat people over the purged elites to get them on their winning ways-- (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294258) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:21 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm Prior to Stalingrad Russians were forced to adopt a Fabian strategy that involved doing immeasurable damage to their own cities and farms. Should I just forget about all that and only analyze events that took place after the Nazis reached St. Petersburg? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294302) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:58 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship Holy shit, why do you comment on shit you don't understand?
"the Russian army before the Battle of Stalingrad were total losers-- suddenly they became winners"
The Red Army already won at Moscow before Stalingrad. And the Germans were only clearly beaten after Kursk and Bagration.
"arguably, Stalin unleashed the greatest strength of Russia which is the proletariat people over the purged elites to get them on their winning ways--"
What total drivel. What elites do you imagine were killed in Stalin's officer's purges? You're probably imagining White Army aristocrats that were killed or fled the country in the 1920s. In terms of the people fighting being "real proletariats" - no one other than Stalin and his inner circle would be real elites during that time. Protip: Americans and Euros fighting on the ground were also overwhelmingly from the same class of people. Just like today the rich aren't sending their kids to fight and die, whether from Ukraine, Russia or the US. |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:06 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm Stalin was just killing elites, without regard to any other considerations. It's just dumb luck that all the elites he killed also constituted 80% of his most experienced military leaders. *shrugs* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294582) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:11 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Stalin committed genocide on his own people to the tune of 27 million during WWII-- elite generals could not second guess a dictator, because they weren't around (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294610) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:15 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship How was it genocide?
How were they "his own people?"
Were most people killed in the purges "elite generals" (what made them elite, btw)? |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:19 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater he accepted unspeakable casualties for his own civilians and troops- on a scale not seen in humankind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin
by elite: I mean rival power players in the military ranks, and since he didn't have a lick of military experience as a politician, he feared them as rivals |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:26 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship That's true, but it isn't genocide.
And "his" is relative. The guy was Georgian. The overwhelming majority of dead were Slavs. |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:29 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the_Soviet_Union
and here we are in 2023 awaiting the dissolution of a failed Russian Empire, da?
were all the dead Russian souls worth it, comrade? |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:32 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship You're aggressively dumb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295279) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:36 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater u r aggressively aggressive, and u will still lose badly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295293) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 3:08 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm It looks like Brussels Sprouts did not actually know about Stalin's most notorious military purges before he entered this discussion. It looks like he's only googling this now for the first time. Now he's trying to conflate the military purges with other deaths that occurred under Stalin, as if to suggest there's room for debate about whether the military purges should be treated as a standalone event, and whether they were sensible. A consistent theme in his posts is that the purges were not batshit crazy and stupid, and in fact they may have been necessary to beat Hitler. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294868) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 3:16 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater I don't conflate common knowledge facts, and they don't pay me enough to bother googling for the purpose of arguing anything on this shitboart (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294904) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 3:17 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm Stalin's military purges aren't common knowledge. Most people are unaware they ever happened, like you before this thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294910) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 3:21 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Stalin refused to be questioned or second guessed by anyone, including heroic military leaders like Georgy Zhukov, Konstantin Rokossovsky, or Nikolai Vatutin- even they feared being sent to the Gulag: FACT
Stalin was a politician, above all. Not unlike Putin. |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 3:23 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm What else did you learn today? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294944) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 3:26 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Russia deserves to die, I'm tired of pretending otherwise; there's no there there, never was and never will (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294954) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:19 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm It was happenstance that most of his top military commanders were genocided at the same time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294662) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:42 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship I don't think you understand how Stalin worked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294131) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:44 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Stalin and Hitler signed a nonaggression treaty-- Stalin had to clean house first in his own country before the inevitable conflict with Fascism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294141) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:50 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship He did not. It was an aggressively stupid move by a paranoid nutjob. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294176) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:51 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294190) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:53 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Stalin was a politician and thought like a politician first and foremost before playing commander in chief of the military at war (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294201) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:56 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm cr, remember when Lincoln killed all his top generals in 1960? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294214) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:57 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship He was more of a ruler than a politician. The latter implies he cared what people thought and worried about things like elections and support. Instead, he was worried about threats, real or imagined. That led to a purge of the USSR's most qualified officers, killing huge numbers of valuable officers right before a major war.
EDIT: You should probably quit trying to comprehend Russian history. You don't get it at all. |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:44 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
Reminder that you're talking to a ~50 year old bald pudgy ~105 IQ Jewish failed shitlawyer who used to live in DC and literally (literally) obsessively e-stalk "The Box" like the creepy pervert that he and so many of his tribesmen are -- as in, "send her 1000+ unsolicited and unanswered emails begging her to go on dates with him"-level completely insane and severely-mentally-ill type shit.
100% not flame, btw. Anyway, the point is that IMO we should definitely be listening to what he has to say about geopolitics because he seems like a smart and stable guy with a solid grasp on the real world. |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:50 PM Author: cerise frozen cruise ship Oh my. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294185) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:00 PM Author: blathering nowag mexican (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294232) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:33 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater to be fair, you should start a firm of formidable intellects within this subthread
TBF, TMF, Nurse Henry LLP |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 6:08 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
Cutting retort, I guess that makes what I said above about you a baseless lie and not a true statement of fact. Correct? |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 7:50 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater to be fair, you lack any substance or character or intelligence worthy of retort
you grade yourself a genius when everything factually, from your public and private failure of a life, says the exact opposite, correct? |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 12:15 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
Hey remember when you emailed "The Box" literally thousands of times begging her to go on a date with you? |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 1:23 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater it was strictly platonic-- we both read philosophy at University and we both were struggling musicians trying find our voice during the Indie Rock Era; the box knew a ton about cool bands like tune yards and for that I'm grateful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2uW2PmVSe8 |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 7:38 PM Author: Iridescent glittery stock car Supposedly he didn't speak for days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46296093) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:39 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm But if it has taken place sooner things would be different? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294119) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:42 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater the Bolshevik Revolution was an international movement for world domination- first strike isn't as powerful as critical mass, and a Red Army in time would be rulers of the world (but for the good ole USA) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294129) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:43 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
Yeah, the USSR would have totally ruled the world if only the US hadn't been around to stop it.
Goddamn you're such a dumb fucking kike. Amazing that we ever bought into that "sky high Ashkenazi IQ" myth you guys have been aggressively pushing in recent decades. Thank god many people are finally waking up (again) to the fact that kikes like you are not only sick and neurotic and evil, but also frankly kind of stupid and very shortsighted in a lot of ways. |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:52 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm Do you understand that WINTER was a factor in Germany's eventual defeat? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294198) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:54 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Overrunning their supply lines/logistics was the killer-- this fateful error won't happen again with Ukraine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294208) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:57 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm How much territory did Ukraine liberate this past winter? Was it more or less territory than Russia captured? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294221) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:01 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Ukraine will expel the Russian invaders and be a free and independent nation in due course. Justice wins. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294237) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:03 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
CR!
So, uh.... can we put a rough estimate on when this will come to pass? This year? Next year? Surely by no later than 2025, right? I mean, Russia is basically out of ammo and extremely weak at this point, or at least so I keep hearing from smart and reliable sources that definitely aren't shameless propaganda mouthpieces and would never lie to me about important things.
Without a time estimate attached to this prediction, this isn't really worth much IMO. "Eventually, someday, there *will* be another big economic recession... you just watch, I'm calling it now!" never made anyone any money, AFAIK. |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:06 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm Ok you can answer the question now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294248) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:38 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm You think Stalin expected Hitler to invade sooner?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294114) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:45 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater see infra, Stalin had to purge his own ranks before taking on Hitler/Fascism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294148) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:47 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm Why did he need to do that? I know that's what he ended up doing, but you're the first person I've ever heard argue that it was necessary. Since Stalin was never fully candid about his rationale I'm eager hear what the experts have to say. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294162) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:50 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Stalin was a politician-- with no military training or experience; he couldn't have ruled the Red Army and Russia without complete domination; no general would dare contradict or cross him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294184) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:54 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm My bad, I thought you were suggesting it helped Stalin fight Hitler. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294209) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:29 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
A Ukrainian "offensive" against ...what, exactly? The completely broken and badly defeated Russian army, which now lies in shambles as it retreats back to the orc-hive from which it came?
What would even be the point of that? Do you also go around sucker punching disabled 5 year olds, OP?
This war is over. Russia lost months ago. Deal with it, Putintard. |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:41 PM Author: Curious Fishy Potus TBF starting to come to his senses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294127) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:42 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
CR, at this rate IMO Moscow will be partitioned by NATO forces before the end of the year. Things are really getting crazy out here, I'm just sad that Putin isn't still alive to suffer through watching this go down. U-S-A! U-S-A! |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:50 PM Author: Curious Fishy Potus Uh oh. Back to insanity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294187) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:43 PM Author: Internet-worthy partner station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294135) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:30 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm The first day of summer is June 21. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294065) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:43 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm Brussels Sprouts c'mon man. Your thesis seems to be that Germany benefited from postponing the invasion until late enough in the year that the Nazis would have to fight through the Russian winter. You need to seriously think about hitting dat cancel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294137) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:25 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater u have a talent for misrepresenting arguments to serve your specious claims
let me be clear: the Ukraine counter offensive shall occur at a time and place of their strategic/tactical/logistical choosing
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Date: May 10th, 2023 7:10 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm Those who fail to learn [from] history are doomed to repeat it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295930) |
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Date: May 11th, 2023 4:54 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Paris Peace talks by Christmas, comrade? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46300534) |
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Date: May 11th, 2023 5:11 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm You seem anxious for this to be over by Christmas. I wonder why. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46300615) |
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Date: May 11th, 2023 5:13 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater here in Brussels, u get a little nervous about total war so close (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46300620) |
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Date: May 11th, 2023 5:15 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm People in Brussels made their own bed. Fuck them if they're afraid to sleep in it, maybe they can make some hard political decisions instead of writing checks they can't cash (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46300632) |
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Date: May 11th, 2023 5:17 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater entre nous, Belgians are fighters, fwiw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46300643) |
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Date: May 11th, 2023 5:18 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm Belgians are 50% African refugees. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46300650) |
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Date: May 11th, 2023 9:11 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater serious offer, NSAM: I will meet u in Europe, and u tell me what u have that will compromise the dialectic of enlightenment which u oppose-- London, Paris, Berlin, Brussels- I will meet u on ur terms, and u can record it on xoxo
u have access to a treasure trove of information/data/bytes, which u do not comprehend, but recognize as sensitive and highly classified, I get it
let me be the middle man to negotiate a handsome ransom for returning it to its rightful owners |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 12:19 AM Author: exciting pisswyrm I'm not seeing dollar signs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46302397) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:44 PM Author: Internet-worthy partner station 9 new attack helicopters just got delivered this week. Videos of Bradleys on trains heading towards the front.
Unironically, wait two weeks. |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:46 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm We're saw videos of Bradleys on trains in December. 6 months later they are still on trains? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294151) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 12:46 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
CR! Honestly this feels like a turning point.
*Sets 27th "Remind me in two weeks* Outlook calendar reminder... except THIS time, it's truly DIFFERENT for REASONS, just wait you'll see (I'm serious, no, really, this is where the tide turns IMO)!* |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:04 PM Author: Internet-worthy partner station I've been in a six month coma, has Russia captured Bakhmut yet? How much territory have they "liberated" in the past six months during their big offensive? Thank. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294242) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:05 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
Nope, in the last six months Putin died, Russia ran out of ammo repeatedly, the so-called "Russian army" dwindled down to a bunch of 40 year olds screaming and waving rusty shovels (after they suffered 200,000+ casualties), and Ukraine won the war AFAIK. |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:09 PM Author: Curious Fishy Potus Goal posts in Feb 2022: X Goal posts now: .........................................X |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:13 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
CR, we all remember when I famously and stupidly predicted that Kiev would fall in 72 hours back in February 2022. We all remember seeing that poast.
Can you bump it, btw? I'll email you my username and password from my personal gmail account if you post the link to that poast right here. I can't seem to find it now for some reason, but I'm sure you have it bookmarked along with the infamous Trump 2016 thread, etc.
Thanks, Pumo! |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:31 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
Pumo? This is a fantastic deal... hello? |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:13 PM Author: Internet-worthy partner station Move to strike everything after "Nope." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294267) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:14 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
Motion denied on the grounds that you're a sniveling little kike. Sorry! |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:53 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm Just woke up from a 6 month coma. Does Bakhmut still not matter? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294512) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:12 PM Author: Sapphire autistic point It’s politically symbolic to Russia so pushing them out does, yes.
Strategically I believe there are conflicting views on its importance. |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:18 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm You think it's still possible Bakhmut doesn't matter? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294654) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 3:24 PM Author: Charismatic wine area Withdrawing may still work out as a net gain for Russia as they can finally stop taking a minimum 5:1 casualty ratio over a pointless city and instead get fucking rekt everywhere else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294948) |
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Date: May 11th, 2023 5:06 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm If the goal was to kill Ukrainian troops, it would make sense for Russians to move in, demolish whatever fortifications are there, strip out the septic tanks etc, and let Ukrainian troops take it all back again. The biggest problem seems to be the density of civilian structures, and Ukraine using civilians as human shields. However Ukraine will have no excuse for moving civilians back there after Russia withdraws troops from those neighborhoods. It should be open season on any civilian structures going forward. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46300590) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:13 PM Author: Sapphire autistic point Can’t wait to ping this thread in a couple of weeks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294268) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:15 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
Wait so the Spring Offensive is still on?! Big if true! |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:19 PM Author: Sapphire autistic point You are immune from embarrassment, I’ll give you credit for that. Probably because this board is the only thing you have going on in your life tho. Sad! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294292) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:20 PM Author: Internet-worthy partner station If it starts in the next 3 weeks will you please retire like you promised to do when Trump got elected? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294298) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:46 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
Well since we're talking terms, what can you (a quotemo that no one knows or gives a single shit about) offer me if it doesn't kick off in the next 3 weeks? Will you (a quotemo that no one knows or gives a single shit about) "admit you were wrong"? Sounds like a great deal! |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:52 PM Author: Sapphire autistic point You’ve been wrong many times about this conflict. Did you admit you were wrong? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294504) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:58 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
Have you ever been wrong about it? Or naw you foresaw everything perfectly just as it unfolded? Just curious haha |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:12 PM Author: Sapphire autistic point Certainly not to the extent that errors and stupidity have plagued your views throughout this conflict, no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294613) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:13 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
Oh damn.
Can you give some examples of stuff you were wrong about? |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:15 PM Author: Sapphire autistic point Why would I do that after you ignored my question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294628) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:18 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
Odd case, so you don't want to give examples here? Hmmmm |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 6:52 PM Author: Sapphire autistic point I can’t recall any but we have many examples of your stupidity which have been well-documented in recent months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295847) |
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Date: May 11th, 2023 7:45 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
Oh wow you can't recall anything you were wrong about? Damn it must be nice being a genius! ;)
PS: Bark bark killself |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:17 PM Author: House-broken parlour Subject: hth https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1654619540326608898?s=20 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294648) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 1:47 PM Author: poppy excitant electric furnace brunch Goyblonsk will fall by July. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294471) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 2:08 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm Goyblonsk doesn't matter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294595) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 3:20 PM Author: Onyx vivacious corner pocket flask Its coming and many Russians will die. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294926) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 3:57 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm It turns out Ukraine doesn't need to do a counteroffensive right now, because Russia is collapsing on its own. Ukraine is just going to sit back and grab the popcorn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295108) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 6:09 PM Author: Free-loading kitty lay To be fair,
^^^ REMINDER FOR PEOPLE WHO CLAIM THAT I JUST CREATE "STRAWMAN" ARGUMENTS AND REAL UKRAINETARDS DON'T "ACTUALLY" SAY THINGS LIKE THIS ^^^
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46294060 |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 7:39 PM Author: Fragrant Tantric Love Of Her Life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46296096) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 10:28 AM Author: Onyx vivacious corner pocket flask Did you just respond to a sarcastic NSAM comment as being a "Ukraintard" position?
The dude is legit crazy and pro-Russia on top of it. |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 12:49 PM Author: Onyx vivacious corner pocket flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46304000) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:23 PM Author: Razzle flirting gay wizard Everyone knows you wait until Winter to invade Russia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295244) |
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Date: May 10th, 2023 4:37 PM Author: Azure vigorous temple it’s not even summer yet, dummy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46295299) |
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Date: May 11th, 2023 5:07 PM Author: Crusty mad cow disease private investor it's underway and probably because you don't call ur enemy up and be like "hey we're ready to attack you now" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46300597) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 12:17 AM Author: Sapphire autistic point Advanced a couple KM into Bakhmut. Not looking good, Russiacucks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46302392) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 12:23 AM Author: exciting pisswyrm During the last offensive they were liberating 5,000 km/sq per day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46302410) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 12:50 AM Author: Sapphire autistic point right and the main offensive hasn’t remotely started, these now are small counter attacks.
That said it took russia months to gain a few KMs in Nakhmut so it ain’t a good sign for Russia that Ukraine can advance there with little effort. |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 12:56 AM Author: exciting pisswyrm This one started two weeks ago. Is takes time to move troops and equipment and stage an offensive. Now Ukraine is pushing the line. It's lulzy how Russia did the same thing in January and the reaction on xo was the same. I pointed out that Russia had begun its winter offensive and no one believed me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46302455) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 1:26 AM Author: Sapphire autistic point so what are you saying? We are in the thrust of the maximum offensive now? Lol ok. Wait two weeks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46302498) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 8:08 AM Author: Internet-worthy partner station This morning the Pentagon said this is just prep work for the counteroffensive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46302843) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 8:28 AM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater besides the logistics of maneuver warfare (or Bewegungskrieg), the limiting factor for Ukraine at this moment is lack of air superiority (just don't have the capacity/resources)-- after the initial thrust, infantry and armored divisions will be without air cover (see, Battle of Kursk) and Ukraine will be subject to the old Russian playbook of flanking maneuvers for a bloody stalemate/war of attrition where the entrenched enemy has a decisive advantage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46302873) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 11:38 AM Author: Sapphire autistic point Why didn’t this work old playbook work in Kherson or Kharkiv?
Russia’s air power is a Joke imo.
Ukraine has sufficient air denial to blunt it. |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 11:44 AM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater the real Russian regulars/troop strength have yet to take the field
no, Russia has massive air superiority over Ukraine as a given
Ukraine only has the will to fight- which may be enough |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 2:47 PM Author: Sapphire autistic point (It is March 2022) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46304500) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 11:46 AM Author: exciting pisswyrm Do you think Russia will use tactical withdrawals too? I didn't see that on your list of Russian military tactics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46303744) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 11:58 AM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater sure to lure them in, but what's germane is our lack of strategic and tactical intelligence, cf. in the Battle of Kursk, Nazi German General Manstein underestimated the hidden Soviet Army troop strength to the order of 8 whole armies-- advancing Elite Panzer Divisions of the Wehrmacht were annihilated by sheer overwhelming numbers solidly dug in-- no need to withdraw, hold the line - smash mouth football (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46303816) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 12:03 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm "sure"
Then please add that to your list. I can't remember the last time Russia fought a major war and didn't do strategic withdrawals for weeks, if not months. |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 12:09 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater the point is to draw Ukraine's army and their fighting capacity into full battle and utterly destroying it, not holding territorial musical chairs
trapping advancing Ukraine in killing zones will be the order of the day |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 12:12 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm "the point is to draw Ukraine's army and their fighting capacity into full battle"
No it isn't. That doesn't even make sense, since they can have "full battle" right now by not withdrawing.
The point is to draw them further than their supply lines can sustain them, and far enough from fortified positions that they have no adequate defenses. Then you kill whatever troops we're stupid enough to charge that deep. Slavs have been doing this since Tannenberg in 1410. They learned it from the Mongols. Please read a history book for once in your life. |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 12:17 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Destroying the capacity to wage war/launch attacks and the will to fight after sustaining staggering casualties will decide this war, not lines drawn on a map. WWII revisited.
Russia has only yet begun to fight. |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 12:30 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm No shit. Mongol feints are the most demoralizing thing you can do to an enemy short of nuking them, but it's not on your list because this is the first time you've heard of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46303966) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 12:50 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater we are approaching the critical hour when Total War and all that it entails will occur-- our best hope is for a successful spring offensive to bring Russia to the peace treaty table
Ukraine is punching way way above its weight. |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 1:40 PM Author: exciting pisswyrm It was stupid of Ukraine to even put up a fight without a strategy for winning. If they had capitulated on day one all their cities would be intact and hundreds of thousands of lives would have been saved. 15 months into the war they still have NOSTRATEGY, and as others have pointed out Russia had not had to go on a war footing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46304177) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 1:50 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater Ukraine are brave and noble, but Russia is just too experienced in total war not to win-- truth be told (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46304235) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 2:02 PM Author: 180 corn cake box office so Ukraine will lose? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46304279) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 2:03 PM Author: Gold buck-toothed volcanic crater G-d only knows. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46304283) |
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Date: May 12th, 2023 12:15 PM Author: Light Senate getting ready for the summer of love (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5338035&forum_id=2#46303899) |