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Date: December 12th, 2006 7:50 PM Author: umber pocket flask seems that way. and in life. like if a girl won't put out by the 2nd week, she's gone. I find that somewhat degrading and offensive to say the least.
I think that many guys have this ill-conceived notion that if he is "prestigious" somehow he can just think of girls as objects. like seriously -- I get along really well with this guy but he doesn't want to actually see it develop, just obviously wants sex. and since i am more respectful of myself and don't want that, he's just essentially gone off the radar.
Are there seriously ANY guys left who actually respect girls or are most guys like this?? worst of all, these guys were both in their late 20s-early 30s, you'd think they'd be a bit more mature... i mean guys in their early 20s can be like this, but i'd expect better from guys who are older. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 7:52 PM Author: Irradiated Rusted Preventive Strike Brethren date a fag I'm sure he'll wait till the 4th date at least |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 7:54 PM Author: talented deranged site headpube Sex is an everyday, expected part of life for guys that age. It's not that they just want sex; they want a girlfriend. For a girlfriend to withhold sex makes no sense, unless you're a born-again virgin, which is a good reason to dump you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205400) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 7:59 PM Author: umber pocket flask umm well with regard to these 2 guys i went out with (I deleted that part of my msg. because it was just supporting facts, but I found it too personal) they wanted it right away.
With this guy, he's just looking for random play, i'm not sure he's looking for a gf. I think he just wants rebound sex, since his last gf recently got engaged. not my thing, he seems to be going a bit fast, which is indicative that he's not looking for much commitment. just sex.
with the other guy... i didn't have sex with him on the 2nd date and he didn't call me back (and neither did I.) otherwise we had good chemistry, both at an intellectual & physical level. the physical came first though, i suppose.
I honestly don't think most guys want girlfriends... because even if you have chemistry, why is it that they will be so disrespectful so as to not even afford it a chance, if you won't put out? why do things have to move soo fast?? |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:02 PM Author: talented deranged site headpube Tell them something like this: Sex is important to me; it's more than just recreation. I'd like for us to get to know each other better before we have sex. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205465) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:07 PM Author: umber pocket flask well we may be looking for different things. if he's just looking for random play and not a relationship, or even dating, then I'm not sure it will work. It's just better to look for other people in this case...plenty of fish in the sea. but the fact that guys are soo focused on sex nowadays is just what's troubling. if she's a great girl -- smart, funny, etc., why not show some respect by not forcing it so soon?
The fact that he is just looking for sex, is also off-putting for me. It shows he's desperate IMO, esp. if it's just due to some insecurities because his last gf got engaged. And I don't like guys who are desperate and would just date anyone, so I wouldn't date him. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:31 PM Author: Vengeful purple locale bbw Instead of communicating, you are imputing all kinds of meaning in these guys' MO. Yes, MO. It's not you in particular; this may just be how they roll. If you interpret the social norm as a personal afront, you will remain single forever. If you go out with a dude twice and don't have sex, and as a result he doesn't call you back, there are a number of things he could be thinking, of which only one is what you assumed. If this is an issue, either have sex earlier or be the one to call back after date #2. Welcome to America! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206128) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:03 PM Author: Henna Duck-like Pit Welcome to the free market. Try convincing the guy that there isn't anybody as good or better than you who will put out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205477) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 3:07 PM Author: Outnumbered Kitchen Regret Because at the basis of any romantic relationship is sex. No sex means no romantic relationship. Everything else is a plus.
Let me put it another way - there's no reason to wait for you to have sex. You're not a virgin, you don't offer anything that special. Sorry. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:53 PM Author: Provocative Water Buffalo Subject: Hmm If women weren't supposed to be sex objects, why did God give them tits? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206279) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 6:37 AM Author: coral deer antler rehab Underrated post.
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:44 AM Author: jet market Just be happy that someone actually wants to fuck you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7207974) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:28 PM Author: 180 weed whacker http://www.ConservativeMatch.com
hth |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 3:15 PM Author: fragrant senate flame! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7211627) |
Date: December 12th, 2006 7:51 PM Author: soul-stirring circlehead no, i want witty banter but you're not good for that OR sex (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205372) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 7:55 PM Author: Slap-happy dilemma ::nods understandingly:: (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205411) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 7:51 PM Author: translucent self-absorbed parlour lettuce problems exists between chair and keyboard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205373) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 7:51 PM Author: umber pocket flask ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205382) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 7:52 PM Author: translucent self-absorbed parlour lettuce maybe it's not them, it's you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205385) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 7:51 PM Author: Charismatic halford Not just sex, good cooking is nice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205378) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 7:52 PM Author: comical elastic band parlor put out or get out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205387) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 7:53 PM Author: umber pocket flask aren't you a girl? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205394) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 7:55 PM Author: talented deranged site headpube bmg is a very level-headed chick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205410) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 7:56 PM Author: comical elastic band parlor yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205416) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 7:59 PM Author: Slap-happy dilemma Hi, silverbandcry! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205436) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:32 PM Author: cerebral red property No it's VforVomit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205717) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:03 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky "like if a girl won't put out by the 2nd week, she's gone."
There's a lot of bravado about this on the board, but there are also a lot of patient guys or guys who value waiting. If you're not running into them, you might just be going out with the wrong ones.
"worst of all, these guys were both in their late 20s-early 30s, you'd think they'd be a bit more mature... i mean guys in their early 20s can be like this, but i'd expect better from guys who are older."
I think you've kind of got it backwards on this one, though. I've found that somewhat older guys are more used to having regular sex, and to having sex a little earlier. Also, the more traditional guys tend to have girlfriends or marry a little younger, so the ones who are still looking at that point are probably not as focused on such things or used to meeting women who are.
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:13 PM Author: umber pocket flask "Also, the more traditional guys tend to have girlfriends or marry a little younger, so the ones who are still looking at that point are probably not as focused on such things or used to meeting women who are."
Well, perhaps they were focused (i.e. if he was in a long-term relationship) but it didn't work out. But I'd expect people who are in their late 20s/30s would be looking for something a bit more serious than just random hook-ups. Maybe because they just got out of a long-term relationship, however, they feel a need for something less serious? Either way, I personally feel a bit offended... actually when I went out with that doctor who tried to have sex by the 2nd date, I deliberately told him (verbatim): "honestly, I'm better than this. If you just want random sex, get a dumb blonde at the bar or something."
And that was it. Maybe he was offended by that comment as well, but honestly... that is just the way I feel. I'm a smart person with a lot of options, I'd expect the same from the people I date. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:14 PM Author: translucent self-absorbed parlour lettuce "I'm a smart person with a lot of options"
something about this and your OP doesnt quite jibe
if you ARE "better than this," he apparently didn't see it. nor could the guy before him. maybe look for a problem on your end, whether it's with you or the type of guy you tend to pick up |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:19 PM Author: umber pocket flask so maybe I look like the type of girl who would be into hookups?
I don't know. I am very active in school, however; studious, focused, not really the sorority type, although i was in one for a while... but maybe guys just assume if a girl is young & attractive, she would be willing to have sex early on? I just thought... if a guy wants easy sex, target young girls who appear ditzy & pretty in bars. i'm not that type. maybe that's what they assume though...I don't see why, if I can intelligently discuss things like politics, grad school options, college activities, etc... but guys may think differently... |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:21 PM Author: adventurous theater stage guys definitely love when girls can discuss college activties intelligently. you should be able to snag a husband no problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205643) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:24 PM Author: umber pocket flask lol. my point was i don't appear like that type of person who would go for a random hookup I think (i.e. i don't look easy, and seem mature)... so i don't think it is a 'problem on my end' so to speak. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205656) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:24 PM Author: Irradiated Rusted Preventive Strike Brethren think again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205661) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:25 PM Author: translucent self-absorbed parlour lettuce why dont you just admit the truth, you started this thread so you could tell people how 'young,' 'attractive', 'mature', and 'intelligent' you are.
i'm going to refer you to :D for the rest of this discussion. he's going to call you a vapid whore and we'll all move on |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:28 PM Author: umber pocket flask that's not the truth, sorry. I started this thread because I was frustrated with that guy i just started dating...i just saw a few minutes earlier that he changed his status on Facebook to saying "looking for: random play" which was my initial impression from him as well. That was mentioned in my OP but I then removed it as stated above.
hth. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:32 PM Author: translucent self-absorbed parlour lettuce i'm just going to cut out the middleman here and call you a vapid whore myself. hope that answers your question, and i know it helps (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205718) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:34 PM Author: umber pocket flask admit it -- you entered this thread with a pre-conceived notion of myself and i don't really care. hth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205736) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:37 PM Author: translucent self-absorbed parlour lettuce don't flatter yourself. i had no idea who you are, have no idea who you are, and don't really care. your posts give the impression that you are a vapid, self-absorbed idiot, and get rightfully treated as such.
so next time you're wondering why men treat you like shit, honey, just look into the mirror |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:40 PM Author: umber pocket flask oh ok, thanks. now i understand everything, and it is oh-so-illuminating!
fuck you. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:42 PM Author: translucent self-absorbed parlour lettuce and here you complain when guys try to do it to you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205800) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 3:13 PM Author: Outnumbered Kitchen Regret He's right - you have an inflated opinion of yourself, the rest of the world disagrees, and now you're pissy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7211609) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:26 PM Author: adventurous theater stage the more i read from you, the more i'm convinced the only possible benefit you could add to a man's life would be sexual release. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205673) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:28 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky If you have the same problem over and over, it probably is something about you - you're not picking appropriate guys (maybe because of the focus on older ones) or not being very skillful when you reject sexual advances or sending out signals you don't realize. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205686) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:29 PM Author: umber pocket flask This is probably right, thanks Rowan. Maybe I'm just giving mixed messages... hmm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205697) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:31 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky Problably. I think you should also reconsider dating men who seem to be 5-10 years older than you and/or learn how to turn guys down in a nice way that makes them want to keep seeing you even if they go home alone that particular night. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205708) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:33 PM Author: umber pocket flask yeah, good point. thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205730) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:23 PM Author: Irradiated Rusted Preventive Strike Brethren you think very highly of yourself please refer to the poster above that explains why someone would dump you for the sole reason that you don't put out |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:25 PM Author: umber pocket flask sure I do. I have respect for myself, and I think it's deserved. I'm not planning to lower it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205665) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:28 PM Author: talented deranged site headpube So, you do think having sex is degrading. Well, honey, nobody wants a sex partner like that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205687) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:31 PM Author: Misanthropic histrionic puppy love of her life It's a "Jump to Conclusions Mat". You see, you have this mat, with different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO. not putting out after 2 dates == conclusion mat jump == considers sex degrading. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:33 PM Author: talented deranged site headpube "I have too much respect for myself to have sex." = "considers sex degrading". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205727) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:35 PM Author: umber pocket flask no... more like i'm not easy. and if he just wants sex and not a relationship attached to that, then I don't feel the same. It's just a difference of opinion.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205746) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:37 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky But you're not giving the opportunity to guys to say if they want a relationship with you or not. You're being so snitty when sex comes up that you never get to find out if they'll wait. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205763) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:47 PM Author: umber pocket flask well ok. in this case, if a guy's facebook profile says he's just looking for 'random play', do you think he really wants to wait? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205843) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:53 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky You mean does he share your attitudes about sex and want to wait for the same reasons you do? Probably not.
Or do you mean would he be willing to consider it if he met a girl who was pretty, and sweet, and funny, and cool, and otherwise his type? A facebook posting is inconclusive when it comes to that sort of thing. Guys will adapt in a variety of ways when they really like a girl. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:11 PM Author: umber pocket flask Interesting reply, thanks. I will consider that.
On the other hand, I have a problem with him already as he didn't want to study with me at the law library because "too many of his ex-gfs hang around there." --??
what does this mean? likely that he has issues with past gfs... that still need to be resolved, perhaps.
I think either way we should go slower, and right now it may be best to just be friends. Since we started dating I was a bit hurt that he put his facebook message as that... but maybe that's just his style.
Oh and regarding your post below -- I really got the impression that the guy was just playing me... I could have been more diplomatic but he wasn't that nice either. When I said I'm not up for that, and just sorta wanted to cuddle with him he was like (verbatim) "yeah I don't do cuddling."
and he left it at that. so... he wasn't that considerate either.
anyway, i have to go study for exams, but thanks for your thoughts again.
good night,
OC |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:12 PM Author: costumed national roommate LEAVE AND DON'T COME BACK YOU STUPID WHORE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205987) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:18 PM Author: umber pocket flask yeah i'm actually leaving now for sure, as i have to study. talk later. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206041) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:24 PM Author: out-of-control yellow coldplay fan yeah right, you'll be back as you have no friends to talk to IRL about your problems. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206075) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:22 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky You are not picking men who are appropriate for what you want. Go find yourself either a shy college boy or one of your male friends or a guy who goes to church. If you don't want guys asking you for sex, chasing after these player types is going to make things miserable for everyone involved.
As for the second one, some more detail about where this occurred and what you two had been doing before then would be helpful. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:24 PM Author: umber pocket flask that's not the case. I am fine with sex, just not RIGHT AWAY like on first/second date. I think that's perfect reasonable. I'm not even doing this for religious reasons, i'm not a religious person!!!
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:34 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky Then take my post and add in "not RIGHT AWAY" to it.
Your values aren't unreasonable. Your failure to either present them attractively to the men you date or to find men who are more compatible with your views towards relationship is what's unreasonable. |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 1:05 AM Author: Self-centered Menage I disagree with you. I' a guy and I would not ask a girl for sex the first few dates. But then, I also only date girls that I really like. The OP's not unreasonable for not wanting sex the first few dates. And guys don't have to be bibe humpers to be the kind she's looking for. Probably more that she's going for players or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7208178) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 1:13 AM Author: talented deranged site headpube From how she expresses herself re: sex on the first few dates, I would say she doesn't want to have sex, ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7208246) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 1:15 AM Author: umber pocket flask I never said or implied that in any way. excellent RC skills there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7208273) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 1:45 AM Author: talented deranged site headpube how many dates does it usually take before you have sex with a guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7208522) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:19 PM Author: talented deranged site headpube OC was unable to respond to this question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7210344) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:24 PM Author: umber pocket flask until i feel comfortable. there's no set number of dates/weeks i have in mind. until i can trust the guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7210381) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:31 PM Author: talented deranged site headpube how many guys have you had sex with? how did you know you could trust each of them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7210429) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 2:10 AM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky The thing is, I basically agree with your post. Not wanting to have sex on the first few dates is not unreasonable by any means (though being nasty to a date interested in sex might be, if the date wasn't crude or pushy about it).
I can't tell if she's going for players, or just for older and relatively experienced guys who are used to having sex prior to having a relationship. Either way, my suggestion to go after different guys isn't limited to religious types - I also suggested that she try to date classmates and friends, who might be both less pushy and more familiar to her. In other words, she should date you instead of going after the sort of guy she usually pursues and grumbling how men suck when she doesn't get the result she wants. |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 10:53 AM Author: Self-centered Menage Fair enough. I agree that her reaction might have been a bit to harsh, though I can see how she may have gotten frustrated after getting her hopes up and then getting the same response repeatedly. As you correctly point out, that is a function of dating the wrong people. Still, I too find it quite rude to ask for sex the second time you meet someone - by any guy (unless the girl gives very clear signals that she wants sex). In that respect I agree with the OP. It may be the norm for some people today but it still shows a lack of respect and manners. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7209930) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:20 PM Author: umber pocket flask I agree. Do you think I should still date this guy I just started dating? the fact that we just started dating and then he puts his status on facebook as being single and looking for "random play" just bugs me. like wtf....have a bit more respect, you know? especially when your law school colleagues will see that...lol. seems idiotic in a way to me, but he probably thinks it's 'cool.'
edit: also the law library thing bugs me.
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Date: December 13th, 2006 3:25 PM Author: Self-centered Menage Well, the facebook thing just shows that he is not yet totally serious about it. That's not such a bad thing though I think. It could well turn out that he becomes really serious about it. Some people need more time to figure this out. The library thing is a bit more troubling, but it shows more that he's a bit silly/insecure rather than that a moral flaw or something. He obviously wants to tell you that he's a great guy who has had many girfriends. I'd say give it a chance but don't set your hopes up too too high. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7211680) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 9:17 PM Author: umber pocket flask Thanks, your post seems really reasonable. I wish I were more sensible about these things at times....BUT how is it obvious that "He obviously wants to tell you that he's a great guy who has had many girfriends"? maybe he has ex-gfs there or he doesn't want to be seen with me for some reason (I can't imagine why as i am better looking than him, objectively.) maybe his ex-gfs will think he's a player or something... but like who gives a shit what his exes think? why does he even care? ugh. that really bugs me.
I will def. tell him, but if we even meet... like seriously, he hasn't msged me since Saturday, what the hell. i assumed he was trying to appear 'hard to get' and whatever, but we talked yesterday and he was like "yeah, i'll check in with you later." umm who says "check in"? but anyway...this is distracting me from essay-writing so i will check your reply later. :) Thanks again. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:37 PM Author: out-of-control yellow coldplay fan Date: December 12th, 2006 9:24 PM Author: OC
that's not the case. I am fine with sex, just not RIGHT AWAY like on first/second date....
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206079)
Date: December 10th, 2006 4:00 AM Author: OC
I'm actually a virgin. I'm way too complicated for most people on this site to even understand. And yes I am good-looking. There's reasons for this. And everything else I said was true...I'm not flame.
But granted that, I'm quitting this site. I don't even care anymore. i really don't. I'm just really hurt by some of the comments in that other thread... like I am 21, I am dating 2 guys right now, but have had other guys hit on me but i wouldn't just have sex with them as they wanted.
I do really respect my integrity and I'm sorry that people think I'm flame.
good night.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=543051&forum_id=2#7185149)
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:35 PM Author: Misanthropic histrionic puppy love of her life "I have too much respect for myself to have sex SO SOON" =/= "considers sex degrading". |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:38 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky "I have too much respect for myself to have sex SO SOON" =/= "I'm going to be rude to any guy who asks for sex TOO SOON"
There are a shitload of girls who have conservative attitudes about sex and manage to handle the issue gracefully. Freaking out is a sign, at minimum, that she lacks social awareness. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:44 PM Author: Misanthropic histrionic puppy love of her life I was destroying grate's simplistic conclusion that the OP finds sex degrading because she doesn't put out within 48 hours. Your post doesn't relate. It's an obvious popularity play. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205821) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:50 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky But he hasn't actually made the statement in your first sentence, and is responding to a series of posts. He also said this, which focuses on her reaction to the request: ""honestly, I'm better than this. If you just want random sex, get a dumb blonde at the bar or something."
as I interpret this, your message is "I'm too good to have sex with you. I don't do sex. Sex is beneath me. Go find a bimbo. Bimboes have sex. I do not." Nobody wants to waste time with an ice princess."
I do actually think that someone who'd be immensely insulted when an otherwise nice man wants to have sex on the second date, to the point where she's rude and never wants to see him again, thinks there's something wrong with sex. A woman who didn't find it objectionable or degrading in some way would do what pretty much every other woman on earth has done at some point - gracefully back out of the situation in a way that doesn't cut all ties. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:00 PM Author: Misanthropic histrionic puppy love of her life "But he hasn't actually made the statement in your first sentence"
Date: December 12th, 2006 8:33 PM Author: grate t-shirt okinawa
"I have too much respect for myself to have sex." = "considers sex degrading".
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205727)
He said this although it is clear she didn't mean sex period, just sex so soon.
"I do actually think that someone who'd be immensely insulted when an otherwise nice man wants to have sex on the second date, to the point where she's rude and never wants to see him again, thinks there's something wrong with sex. "
So what if you think it? Who are you? Despite your inflated sense that you know it all, a person who finds it insulting that a date propositions her on the second date =/= someone who finds sex degrading. Take your pop psychology books back to b&n. She could simply find it out of line for a new date to approach what she considers an intimate act with such brashness. In some places, the fucker would get his face slapped. "otherwise nice man" my ass. This same guy would be considered justified by his peers in calling her a slut if she did in fact put out on the second date. This doesn't make her some weirdo. Her lack of grace in the face of such gracelessness on the presumptious date's part is to be expected. No amount of bullshit campaigning for endearment with this site's socially awkward virgins by calling her a freak is going to change this. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:05 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky "I have too much respect for myself to have sex." = "considers sex degrading".
This critiques the statement, not the action. His other posts support this. He's also explicitly suggested other ways for her to phrase her objections.
"This doesn't make her some weirdo. Her lack of grace in the face of such gracelessness on the presumptious date's part is to be expected. No amount of bullshit campaigning for endearment with this site's socially awkward virgins by calling her a freak is going to change this."
So what if you think this? Who are you? Despite your inflated sense that you know it all, other people may interpret actions differently. Take your pop psychology books back to b&n.
(In other words, the "that's just your opinion!!!!" argument is pretty stupid if you're also going to state your opinions.) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:11 PM Author: Misanthropic histrionic puppy love of her life (In other words, the "that's just your opinion!!!!" argument is pretty stupid if you're also going to state your opinions.)
I'm asserting that the pretentious "diagnosis" of this girl as a weirdo because she finds it rude to be propositioned by some dude on the SECOND date is a stretch that marks the person making such an asinine diagnosis a blatant ass-kisser and pretty fucking pathetic.
My favorite is the "she lacks social awareness." She is pretty fucking aware that she'll be branded a slut socially for fucking him that soon. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:18 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky But you're diagnosing as well - you're attributing motives to both her and to other posters. What makes your behavior different?
I'm not sure whose ass you think I'm kissing, either. I've been making fairly similar statements since the beginining of the thread, and they aren't in disagreement with previous things I've posted. Is it that difficult for you to accept that a woman could find another woman's behavior unreasonable?
It's the being insulted, the being so insulted it's a dealbreaker, and continuing to date similar men rather than targetting ones more likely to share her feelings that strikes me as terribly odd. As I've said, there are large numbers of girls who are fairly conservative about sex and manage to handle their relationships without continually having these confrontations. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:19 PM Author: umber pocket flask Read my above msg! I have to go though, so I'll read your (potential) reply tomorrow. thanks for both of your replies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206049) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:22 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky I responded to it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206068) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:24 PM Author: Misanthropic histrionic puppy love of her life You are kissing male ass here by calling ANY WOMAN who "non-graciously" backs out of a guy's propositioning her that early as socially unaware and a person who finds sex degrading. I, on the other hand, merely offered another reason she might back out without having to be a freak of nature. I'm not diagnosing. I DON'T PRESUME - as you do - to know that a woman is a fucking freak because she reacts non-graciously to the rudeness.
You wrote: "A woman who didn't find it objectionable or degrading in some way would do what pretty much every other woman on earth has done at some point - gracefully back out of the situation in a way that doesn't cut all ties."
By the way, 180 on the "what every woman on earth has done." the smug omniscience is too much. There you have it. Let me sum it up for you in simple terms.
Rowan: OMG, she thought it insulting! She could have done that more graciously. She's a freak who must find sex degrading. Me: not necessarily. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:33 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky I haven't called "any woman" a freak. The OP has said that this problem happens to her enough for it to be of concern, has described the men she dates, and has described specific incidents and her responses to them. Based on those examples she seems to me to be socially unaware and generally a bit of a mess. Other women who have objectionable second dates differ from her in all kinds of ways, and I wouldn't say anything about them until I had some information.
The response about graciousness was for the specific situation, and the "every woman" comment was admittedly just phrasing. I was trying to get across the point that there are lots of other women who feel like she does, they just either handle such situations differently or find ways to avoid them.
But why is it ok to presume that a woman whose views differ from yours is kissing men's asses, but not ok to presume anything negative about other people and their behavior? It isn't just a tad smug to presume how another person came to their conclusions?
We disagree then. Did you really need to go through all that diagnosis and presumption nonsense to get to that? |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:38 PM Author: Misanthropic histrionic puppy love of her life I can't stand when vapid whores try to act like they can speak universally to bash women who don't act like them as freaks. Look at your "any woman on earth" bullshit. Any person - man or woman - with common sense who wasn't looking to score brownie points here wouldn't have felt the need to make an asinine presumption of "any woman on earth." basically, you don't know all there is to know about women and you're not some arbiter of what is normal. You are also not a psych. People who overreach their competence to talk out of their ass to an all too sympathetic audience as if their silly little opinion is more than a silly little opinion are pretty damn shitty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206167) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:45 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky It was actually "every", and was rhetorical. I think the underlying point that turning down sexual and romantic advances is a fairly common part of life is a valid one.
And I'm not sure if you've noted this, but I haven't actually bashed someone for not wanting to have sex right away. My criticism of her is that she seems unwilling to either adjust her behavior around this value by dating more suitable men, or tried to present her values to people in a way that gives them a chance to respond positively. Whether or not a man elsewhere would be slapped for such behavior, it isn't the norm here. Reasonable people adjust themselves around other people's behaviors so that their values aren't constantly clashing with them.
No one here knows all there is to know. No one here is the arbiter. I don't think anyone on here is a psych. However, it's a message board. People state their opinions without the phrase "This is just my opinion:" in front of them. Note that your opinion that I'm only sucking up to men is not prefaced with any of these disclaimers. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:50 PM Author: Misanthropic histrionic puppy love of her life "It was actually "every", and was rhetorical."
If it was rhetorical, then it is less nonsensical. Still, I wonder why such a rhetorical statement needs to be made if not for pointing out that a woman who doesn't fit your rhetorical every-woman is a weirdo.
"Note that your opinion that I'm only sucking up to men is not prefaced with any of these disclaimers." Well, short of outright stupidity, I don't see any other reason why a woman would advance the idea that a woman who turns down presumptuous propositions in a way that burns bridges with the offending men must find sex degrading. It is the quintessential "frigid bitch" designation men like to use. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:56 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky I do think she's a weirdo. Not so much for her values, but for her refusal to find a way to work them into her dating life, something a number of women who share them manage to do. For a college-aged virgin who wants to wait for sex, dating thirty-something doctors and late twenty-something law students with lots of ex-girlfriends and then reacting extremely when they want sex fairly early on isn't a great plan.
You're making assumptions about what people define (or should define) as "presumptuous", and seem to be dismissing the possibility that even if someone is presumptuous there may be a misunderstanding that can be corrected or an apology that can be made.
However, my feelings about the "degrading" part are based mostly on the language she uses to describe sex and "those other women" who have it a few dates sooner than she does. Her comments almost entirely paint it as a negative, rather than as a positive thing that should come with love or marriage or after X dates. |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:35 AM Author: umber pocket flask Fair enough. Although you see me as a 'weirdo', I still value your comments as it puts things in perspective.
I still have one question though....the fact that: 1) he wouldn't take me to the law library because of ex-gfs who hang around there 2) looking somewhat desperate by putting that he's looking for "random play" on facebook and 3) not messaging me all weekend.
do you think those also contribute to....basically a lack of trust and suspicions? or maybe it is true that I am being presumptuous and unfair. I just felt like he was trying to get me in the sac quickly, and then the fact that he put that on facebook and msged me...i felt somewhat hurt. But I need to learn to accept that people have different views on these things and maybe I was making unfair assumptions...maybe he didn't view me as someone he would just take advantage of, have sex and then dump the next day, but someone he could see in a relationship with?
I don't know. |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:53 AM Author: Marvelous French Chef Kitty Cat You are seriously one of the most hated posters here and you've only been around for a little while. Congrats. and STFU. He obviously doesn't like you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7208068) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 1:11 AM Author: umber pocket flask umm thanks. what a bitch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7208232) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 1:27 AM Author: Marvelous French Chef Kitty Cat Seriously people don't like you, and most don't believe you are a girl. And those that DO believe you are a girl think you're most likely an ugly, fat whore. Which you probably are. Don't you have friends IRL to talk to? This is sad...
Even the female posters don't think you're a girl and they are the first to tell...
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=538537&forum_id=2#7128956
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=538537&forum_id=2#7128885 |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 2:16 AM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky Look, you have two options:
1) Keep dating these slightly playerish older guys, don't sleep with them, be honest about your virginity and your desire to wait, and see how they react. If one of them's a gentleman, all the better. If they're not interested, at least you gave them a shot at understanding. You'll figure out who's interested in a relationship pretty quickly this way, so no need to wonder.
2) Slow down and stop panting over somewhat unavailable older men. Consider dating someone younger and a little more innocent. |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 3:15 AM Author: umber pocket flask Thanks, Rowan. I suppose the problem is that I actually like this guy, but I can't trust him because he seems the player type.
And classmates aren't really good, as most guys who are smart aren't good-looking and mature, and there aren't that many smart guys at my college.
i suppose part of the problem is that it's hard for me to meet guys i'm attracted to in the first place. there was one guy i had chemistry with, in one of my classes but i made a post about that as well ("date someone you're not physically attracted to?") or something. I didn't find him physically attractive and it wouldn't work. I'm usually attracted to older guys if they're physically attractive, confident & smart as well...unfortunately some also seem to be players so trust is as an issue. hence, dating is entirely too difficult for me. i almost give up... |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 3:37 AM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky It basically sounds like you want the exact sort of guy who's most likely to put you in these situations. You may at least want to reconsider the value of "mature" - if you're not equally as mature in all aspects (including sexual ones) it isn't necessarily a virtue. And I don't really believe you about the smart thing, it sounds like there's just something about older guys that's appealing to you right now.
If you're not up to learning how to get a guy who wants sex soon to wait awhile for you and you're not willing to consider guys who might not push you as much, you maybe should just take some time off. Time might resolve some of this. |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 3:45 AM Author: umber pocket flask "If you're not up to learning how to get a guy who wants sex soon to wait awhile for you and you're not willing to consider guys who might not push you as much, you maybe should just take some time off. Time might resolve some of this."
Umm I haven't had a boyfriend in 2 years as a result of 'letting time sort things out.' I think it's probably best to get back in the game....the problem is that I do really like that guy in particular, but I don't trust him as a result of the aforementioned issues (he didn't want to study with me in the law library, etc.)
How would you suggest to renconcile this, in particular? |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 4:54 AM Author: umber pocket flask actually i still think I shouldn't think about this guy, even if I do really like him and we have good chemistry. I mean on Facebook he wrote that he is just looking for "random play", not even "friendship", "dating" or anything else... it seems like he just wants a fuck-buddy and will go along with whoever puts out. if that's all he wants... I'd ask for a bit more respect, I suppose. I feel like I can't trust him. In a way I actually do want to have sex with him, but I'm just really scared that he won't respect it and he's just hoping to get me in bed as soon as possible. I don't want to feel manipulated into that, if he's trying to be really smooth and charming, etc. to achieve that.
I don't know if I sound reasonable here, but that's just how I feel. |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 10:22 PM Author: out-of-control yellow coldplay fan "In a way I actually do want to have sex with him"
What happen to your supposed virginity?
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:18 PM Author: umber pocket flask Thanks. :) Read my above message to get more of the context of the situations as well... he wasn't that nice either, as when I tried to just cuddle with him he was like "yeah, I don't do cuddling" and shrugged me off.
he was basically like trying to be an 'alpha male' although I get the sense that he was more genuine than that, but tried to play up that image. |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 1:18 AM Author: Self-centered Menage If you are not flame, you actually sound like a decent girl. Don't listen to people here. Not all guys have the same attitude as the two you met.
(please spare the flames people) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 1:25 AM Author: Marvelous French Chef Kitty Cat Sorry dood - she switches monikers constantly and comes back with the same whiny-bitchy attitude.
http://why-do-people-think-im-a-guy-vforvomit-explain.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=538537&mc=27&forum_id=2 |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:29 PM Author: Irradiated Rusted Preventive Strike Brethren I wouldn't want you to thing pooely of yourself, but I wouldn't want you to get a falsely inflated ego either So in short, if guys are dating you for sex, and sex only, maybe you should find a reason to think highly of yourself and aspire to that before you actually do think so highly of yourself |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:24 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky "Well, perhaps they were focused (i.e. if he was in a long-term relationship) but it didn't work out."
I'm not saying there aren't guys like that out there, just that on average the more tradiational ones are hooked up by a certain age.
"But I'd expect people who are in their late 20s/30s would be looking for something a bit more serious than just random hook-ups."
A decent number of them are...which doesn't mean that they're also not willing to have a sexual relationship while they figure out if they want to have a serious romantic one. Like I said, they're probably more used to having sex and more used to women who also have sex while they decide whether to date seriously.
Not that you should go along with any of this if it's not something that's comfortable to you. But rejecting guys for making a move on the second date seems premature. Why can't you just tell him you're not into that in more neutral terms, and see how he handles it? If that's not an option, you might need to date a different group of men - go out with classmates or friends you've known for a long period of time, or guys who you know share your more traditional views. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:24 PM Author: talented deranged site headpube "honestly, I'm better than this. If you just want random sex, get a dumb blonde at the bar or something." as I interpret this, your message is "I'm too good to have sex with you. I don't do sex. Sex is beneath me. Go find a bimbo. Bimboes have sex. I do not." Nobody wants to waste time with an ice princess. On the other hand, if your message is something like "to me sex is something special" or "I'm not ready to have sex with someone so soon; I have to get to know the other person", I suggest you phrase it in those terms. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:32 PM Author: umber pocket flask Thanks. I'll phrase it like that in the future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205713) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:27 PM Author: Naked vivacious son of senegal prole "but there are also a lot of patient guys or guys who value waiting. If you're not running into them, you might just be going out with the wrong ones."
It's interesting how the OP ignored this part. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:31 PM Author: Irradiated Rusted Preventive Strike Brethren interesting how the OP has ignored jsut about everything Why do I even bother with such flame? |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:03 PM Author: adventurous theater stage I like pillow talk, too. But you can't really have that without the sex. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205478) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:28 PM Author: costumed national roommate GODDAMMIT YOU SAID YOU WOULD LEAVE AND NEVER COME BACK!!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205689) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:31 PM Author: cerebral red property This is that vforvomit schtick right, the whiny bitch? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205711) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:34 PM Author: translucent self-absorbed parlour lettuce this sounds like, what's her name, that $# flame character
'i've been told by everyone that i look like a combination of beyonce + halle berry + jennifer lopez' |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:34 PM Author: cerebral red property Date: December 10th, 2006 3:56 AM Author: OC
I'm sorry. I still find this really offensive. Really offensive.
But at the same time it's caused me to evaluate some things in my life.....i'm not normal. at all. i have like anxiety problems, etc. etc....i'm too complex for most people. i should go out more and just force myself to be with people, and such....
k i'm not visiting xoxo again. i stopped around august and then started again cause i was really stressed with this stupid essay, but i'm like done....completely. i just find this really personally frustrating and am really offended, i'm sorry. I understand what you're saying but... just from my perspective, it's somewhat hurtful...sorry.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=543008&forum_id=2#7185123)
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Date: December 10th, 2006 4:31 AM Author: hastaluegoman
HA, you'll be back in a week with a different moniker, vforvomit
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=543008&forum_id=2#7185319)
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:38 PM Author: Irradiated Rusted Preventive Strike Brethren lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205766) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 1:10 PM Author: out-of-control yellow coldplay fan HAHA stupid cunt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7210701) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 3:16 PM Author: Outnumbered Kitchen Regret She's too complex for most people? Is she kidding? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7211630) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:32 PM Author: Unhinged ebony travel guidebook church *ahem*
There are many guys who aren't just in it for sex, and a lot of what you are interpreting as "just wanting sex" you are confusing the fact that for a lot of guys, sex = relationship. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:35 PM Author: Irradiated Rusted Preventive Strike Brethren so really, guys just want a relationship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205744) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:39 PM Author: umber pocket flask do you mean that sex is the only ingredient in a relationshp for them? or the beginning of one? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205776) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:42 PM Author: Unhinged ebony travel guidebook church No, not the 'only' ingredient, but a necessary one. For almost all guys my age, for instance, a relationship isn't there unless sex is there as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205798) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:44 PM Author: Irradiated Rusted Preventive Strike Brethren good thing you put the 'almost' in there
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:45 PM Author: umber pocket flask ok. but how soon is reasonable to expect it, do you think? I think the first few dates, before you really start to know each other, is a bit too soon... unless the guy is just looking for sex, and so is the girl, in which case he's basically getting what he wants so there's no problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205830) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:59 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky It's pointless to come up with some date before which no guy should do something that indicates he wants to have sex. Punishing guys for violating some rule they don't know isn't going to help you find a boyfriend.
Accept that a lot of guys might want sex before you do. Ask them to wait a bit. Don't be a bitch about it, and someone probably will. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:25 PM Author: Unhinged ebony travel guidebook church Then explain it to the guy, not in a frigid ice princess way, and go from there. Go with what you're confortable with. This isn't rocket science. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206084) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:34 PM Author: contagious buff space I would also like a sandwich.
TY. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:39 PM Author: elite razzle-dazzle yarmulke sammich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206173) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:35 PM Author: Aromatic institution Not at all. Many also want quiet from girls. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205752) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:41 PM Author: Vengeful purple locale bbw This post and the prior one are, generally, correct. Ideally, in many modern men's eyes, a woman should have sex, and then, with their mate softly snoring, tiptoe away to the grocery store, at which they may procure lunch-meats. After procuring said meats, a woman should return, and make sandwiches, being careful not to hit a plate with a knife and thus make a noise. After completion, they should be decoratively adorned on a tray, and a woman should then return the the bedside, holding the tray supplicatively and silently until the man naturally awakens. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206183) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:52 PM Author: talented deranged site headpube you forgot a beer and a sparkling clean glass to pour it into, but otherwise 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206269) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:54 PM Author: Vengeful purple locale bbw ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206280) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:44 PM Author: electric brunch international law enforcement agency Men are evil and must be destroyed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205810) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 1:39 AM Author: Lilac Fluffy Gunner Principal's Office You're getting old. In every way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7208487) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:44 PM Author: Crimson disgusting stage Sex is a natural derivative of a healthy relationship. The fact that you think it's unnatural means you'ze a crazy bitch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205813) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:46 PM Author: Misanthropic histrionic puppy love of her life wtf do you know about healthy relationships? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205838) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:47 PM Author: translucent self-absorbed parlour lettuce tiger wood's coach never won a major (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205849) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 1:10 AM Author: talented deranged site headpube underappreciated post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7208212) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 1:42 AM Author: Vengeful purple locale bbw seconded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7208503) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 8:48 PM Author: umber pocket flask sure it is. that's not the point. we haven't even "entered" a healthy relationship at this point, we've only been on like 2 dates. it's not a derivative of anything at this point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205850) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:01 PM Author: Crimson disgusting stage Maybe you shouldn't have your walls so high. Open up (your legs). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205938) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:13 PM Author: Amber party of the first part Not all guys are like that. Those two just sound like assholes. And using xoxo as a sample brings up some selection issues, to say the least... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7205999) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:19 PM Author: electric brunch international law enforcement agency ALL men are evil, and ALL men must be destroyed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206046) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:48 PM Author: talented deranged site headpube buy me a mocha and you can tell me all about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206236) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:18 PM Author: out-of-control yellow coldplay fan Jesus, not this slut again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206045) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:20 PM Author: Big-titted talking area ratface I don't think so. I have a feeling there are a lot of conservative men here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206057) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:23 PM Author: Chocolate school cafeteria If the girl shows some signs of intelligence, I might want something more than just sex.
If not (e.g. MadCat, dumb as a mule and then she wonders why her experiences with men are always negative), then yes, all we want is sex. |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:29 PM Author: Twinkling school if 9.5+, you must put out by the 5th date
8.5 - 9.4 = 4th date
7.5 - 8.4 = 3rd
6.5 - 7.4 = 2nd
5.5 - 6.4 = 1st
4.5 - 5.4 = undateable, drunk fuck only |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:50 PM Author: talented deranged site headpube don't put hot girls on a pedestal -- you have to seem like a quirky novelty; if you give them too much time to think about you they'll never sex you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206254) |
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Date: December 12th, 2006 9:40 PM Author: elite razzle-dazzle yarmulke No. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7206181) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:37 AM Author: cheese-eating dun chapel stain bla bla bla.... STFU (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7207877) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 1:20 AM Author: Laughsome casino god no! we want head as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7208335) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 1:36 AM Author: swashbuckling wine library blame rap music (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7208469) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 1:38 AM Author: swashbuckling wine library but seriously. rare that a guy will not be thinking like this, unless he's religious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7208477) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 2:42 PM Author: Irradiated Rusted Preventive Strike Brethren even then ... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7211399) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 2:12 AM Author: bisexual mahogany legend sanctuary When a guy tells you he doesn't want to just have sex with you, there must be something wrong with at least one of you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7208700) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 6:31 AM Author: Internet-worthy Main People Bawdyhouse Some women go into the whole 'male/female' interaction shit with this mindset and it really screws up the whole thing.
If you think men are always after sex, you're going to interpret EVERYTHING as if it's a ploy for sex.
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Date: December 13th, 2006 7:18 AM Author: Pea-brained degenerate really tough guy Women have no other use. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7209567) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:17 PM Author: umber pocket flask Rowan, please reply when you get a chance! thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7210334) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:24 PM Author: talented deranged site headpube you're a very strange young man how long have you had the desire to pose as a woman? |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:28 PM Author: umber pocket flask do you honestly think flame would go on for this long & be so detailed as this? please. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7210406) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:32 PM Author: talented deranged site headpube yes -- that's how flamers get off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7210432) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:25 PM Author: Marvelous French Chef Kitty Cat Don't you have friends IRL? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7210382) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:26 PM Author: umber pocket flask yes but they're not as reasonable as rowan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7210388) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 3:18 PM Author: Outnumbered Kitchen Regret I'll help - it sounds you need several cats for the future ahead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7211643) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 9:19 PM Author: Milky Bull Headed Idiot Becky I realized that you're the anorexia poster. I'm going to opt out of this thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7214235) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 9:20 PM Author: umber pocket flask what?? why? I'm not anorexic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7214248) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 10:19 PM Author: out-of-control yellow coldplay fan AWWW vforvomit lost her only "reasonable friend" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7214746) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:26 PM Author: Excitant Disrespectful Theatre Gay Wizard lol. I dont know where to begin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7210387) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 12:35 PM Author: Henna Duck-like Pit Please don't feed the trolls. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7210453) |
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Date: December 13th, 2006 3:17 PM Author: Bistre Boistinker trolls need to be fed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=544720&forum_id=2#7211636) |