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Once you hit like 65 and are overweight, every day is a coin flip.

A guy I knew just died from what i am guessing is like coron...
rusted apoplectic school jap
  02/26/24
describe the diet?
Magical Spot Friendly Grandma
  02/26/24
https://www.amazon.com/WFPB-Cookbook-Recipes-Enjoy-Whole/dp/...
rusted apoplectic school jap
  02/26/24
i'm tempted to get this book but this is the author... h...
Magical Spot Friendly Grandma
  02/26/24
LJL at anyone who takes advice from him
Abusive floppy yarmulke
  02/26/24
lmao I expected a 55 year old lady with frizzy hair and p...
Hairraiser persian police squad
  02/27/24
Plant based or whatever doesn't even matter. If you sharply ...
Soul-stirring hot step-uncle's house crotch
  02/26/24
all the studies say it is a HUGE factor
rusted apoplectic school jap
  02/26/24
That’s bs that “meat is the real killer.” ...
provocative bipolar dopamine lay
  02/26/24
Actually a guy down thread has a bunch of studies that confi...
Tan buck-toothed filthpig
  02/26/24
i rate this thread a 120 WITHOUT having stated if the dead g...
Jade partner
  02/26/24
...
Magical Spot Friendly Grandma
  02/26/24
thread title has been true long before 2020
rusted apoplectic school jap
  02/26/24
the obese guy you're commenting on died long before 2020?
Jade partner
  02/26/24
thread title: "Once you hit like 65 and are overweight,...
rusted apoplectic school jap
  02/26/24
"Meat is a real killer for guys above 60." If y...
Tan buck-toothed filthpig
  02/26/24
hong kong has the highest meat consumption in the world and ...
Jade partner
  02/26/24
C fucking R
Tan buck-toothed filthpig
  02/26/24
thats not what a million studies that have looked at meat ba...
rusted apoplectic school jap
  02/26/24
I bet none of these "studies" were sponsored by Ke...
Tan buck-toothed filthpig
  02/26/24
OK, but MASE knows better.
infuriating pink hell boiling water
  02/26/24
TITMFCR
Tan buck-toothed filthpig
  02/26/24
but is it cutting out the twinkies and replacing them with a...
Odious forum gaming laptop
  02/26/24
No dude I'm sure it's the red meat, the most bioavailable fo...
Tan buck-toothed filthpig
  02/26/24
whole foods diet was specified, which would eliminate the pr...
Odious forum gaming laptop
  02/26/24
twin studies which control for that reveal that it is the cu...
rusted apoplectic school jap
  02/26/24
Yeah, but I like eating meat and I'm smarter than any scient...
infuriating pink hell boiling water
  02/26/24
same
rusted apoplectic school jap
  02/26/24
...
brass multi-colored hissy fit theater stage
  02/26/24
This but unironically
Tan buck-toothed filthpig
  02/26/24
...
seedy honey-headed pisswyrm
  02/27/24
...
Hairraiser persian police squad
  02/27/24
Does that study differentiate between whether the animal was...
Tan buck-toothed filthpig
  02/26/24
i find posters very naive about what a study will typically ...
Odious forum gaming laptop
  02/26/24
I've noticed the opposite. Without even reading a study, po...
infuriating pink hell boiling water
  02/26/24
we could both be right honestly
Odious forum gaming laptop
  02/26/24
🤝
infuriating pink hell boiling water
  02/26/24
The problem is the COVID-19 vaccine. Being 65+ and overweig...
infuriating pink hell boiling water
  02/26/24
I wonder if this is actually true. Also, I wonder what I sho...
Confused psychic haunted graveyard
  02/26/24
OP is obviously hyperbole especially in the last 20 years er...
bronze razzle-dazzle national security agency
  02/27/24
seems like a silly argument the idea that these overweigh...
Hairraiser persian police squad
  02/27/24


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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:23 AM
Author: rusted apoplectic school jap

A guy I knew just died from what i am guessing is like coronary artery disease, or a stroke, or heart attack.

He was seriously overweight.

My dad has recently gone plant based whole foods diet and the puonds are melting away. Its crazy he eats as much as he wants but is rapidly losing weight. Meat is a real killer for guys above 60.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439483)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:24 AM
Author: Magical Spot Friendly Grandma

describe the diet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439486)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: rusted apoplectic school jap

https://www.amazon.com/WFPB-Cookbook-Recipes-Enjoy-Whole/dp/1647396182

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439542)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: Magical Spot Friendly Grandma

i'm tempted to get this book but this is the author...

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/S/amzn-author-media-prod/k12qmet0t72aegol92rrft5e44._SY600_.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439552)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:44 AM
Author: Abusive floppy yarmulke

LJL at anyone who takes advice from him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439609)



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Date: February 27th, 2024 9:18 AM
Author: Hairraiser persian police squad

lmao

I expected a 55 year old lady with frizzy hair and problem glasses

this was much funnier

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47442956)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:40 AM
Author: Soul-stirring hot step-uncle's house crotch

Plant based or whatever doesn't even matter. If you sharply cut your calorie consumption, then you'll lose weight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439576)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:44 AM
Author: rusted apoplectic school jap

all the studies say it is a HUGE factor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439610)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 12:24 PM
Author: provocative bipolar dopamine lay

That’s bs that “meat is the real killer.” It’s oils and excessive calories combined with sedentary lives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439819)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 12:25 PM
Author: Tan buck-toothed filthpig

Actually a guy down thread has a bunch of studies that confirm that meat is the real problem and yeah maybe those studies don't control for any of those factors you mentioned but just eat the fucking BEYOND MEAT faggot grrrrrrrrrrr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439826)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: Jade partner

i rate this thread a 120 WITHOUT having stated if the dead guy was jewish heart attack jabbed or not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439546)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: Magical Spot Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439553)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:38 AM
Author: rusted apoplectic school jap

thread title has been true long before 2020

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439565)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:38 AM
Author: Jade partner

the obese guy you're commenting on died long before 2020?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439567)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:39 AM
Author: rusted apoplectic school jap

thread title: "Once you hit like 65 and are overweight, every day is a coin flip."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439570)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:40 AM
Author: Tan buck-toothed filthpig

"Meat is a real killer for guys above 60."

If you are actually eating cleanly, meat should be the cornerstone of your diet. Fatty meat is only a killer if you're eating it on top of a standard American diet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439580)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:40 AM
Author: Jade partner

hong kong has the highest meat consumption in the world and the highest life expectancy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439582)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:41 AM
Author: Tan buck-toothed filthpig

C fucking R

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439583)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:44 AM
Author: rusted apoplectic school jap

thats not what a million studies that have looked at meat based diets and plant based diets in america show over, and over, and over

in every single case, people who go WFPB lose weight, rapidly lower cholesterol, lose plaque in arteries, gain VO2...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439606)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:45 AM
Author: Tan buck-toothed filthpig

I bet none of these "studies" were sponsored by Kellogg lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439618)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:46 AM
Author: infuriating pink hell boiling water

OK, but MASE knows better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439624)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:47 AM
Author: Tan buck-toothed filthpig

TITMFCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439628)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:49 AM
Author: Odious forum gaming laptop

but is it cutting out the twinkies and replacing them with avocados and berries that is causing those positive health changes or is it cutting out the meat (or both, or something else not looked at in the study)?

you can't make a huge series of related changes like switching from the SAD diet to WFPB and then pick out one element of that as the decisive factor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439644)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:55 AM
Author: Tan buck-toothed filthpig

No dude I'm sure it's the red meat, the most bioavailable food in existence, that's killing us and the goyslop processed vegan burgers are going to save us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439675)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 5:53 PM
Author: Odious forum gaming laptop

whole foods diet was specified, which would eliminate the processed vegan burgers at least....and indeed, if you're *going* to do a vegan diet, it should be on a whole foods basis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47441261)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 12:02 PM
Author: rusted apoplectic school jap

twin studies which control for that reveal that it is the cuttng out of the red meat which is the critical factor

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2023/11/twin-diet-vegan-cardiovascular.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439708)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 12:06 PM
Author: infuriating pink hell boiling water

Yeah, but I like eating meat and I'm smarter than any scientist, so the problem is actually "goyslop" or some other thing I don't like

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439732)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 12:56 PM
Author: rusted apoplectic school jap

same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439928)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 8:09 PM
Author: brass multi-colored hissy fit theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47441723)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 8:10 PM
Author: Tan buck-toothed filthpig

This but unironically

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47441725)



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Date: February 27th, 2024 3:41 AM
Author: seedy honey-headed pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47442593)



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Date: February 27th, 2024 9:19 AM
Author: Hairraiser persian police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47442958)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 12:10 PM
Author: Tan buck-toothed filthpig

Does that study differentiate between whether the animal was grassfed, was it cooked in seed oils, free range or factory farmed, or are those variables not important haha

Also sponsored by the Vogt Foundation: "Goal: To promote the mission of the Vogt Foundation to assist plant-based development and protect all animals while supporting organizations that produce animal alternative products or protect animals." LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439754)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 5:54 PM
Author: Odious forum gaming laptop

i find posters very naive about what a study will typically control for. they just take it as self-evident that Scientists control for everything potentially relevant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47441266)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 6:05 PM
Author: infuriating pink hell boiling water

I've noticed the opposite. Without even reading a study, posters have the ability to identify methodological shortcomings that invalidate the study's conclusion. This ability seems to work only with studies that reach conclusions undesirable to the poster, but still

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47441322)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 8:07 PM
Author: Odious forum gaming laptop

we could both be right honestly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47441720)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 8:10 PM
Author: infuriating pink hell boiling water

🤝

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47441726)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 11:47 AM
Author: infuriating pink hell boiling water

The problem is the COVID-19 vaccine. Being 65+ and overweight is low risk for the unvaccinated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439636)



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Date: February 26th, 2024 12:44 PM
Author: Confused psychic haunted graveyard

I wonder if this is actually true. Also, I wonder what I should be doing in my own life to ensure that I actually reach the point where I have an 8-figure net worth as that is the most important goal in my goal box at the moment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47439899)



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Date: February 27th, 2024 3:08 AM
Author: bronze razzle-dazzle national security agency

OP is obviously hyperbole especially in the last 20 years era of statins and now obesity meds.

but being in poor health at 65 is such a shitty position. healthy aging is critical. even if you're genetically destined to live naturally to somewhere around 90, that can be a rough ride if the last 25 years are full of compromised mobility, mental instability, or even worse infirmities.

old age is a curse to people in poor health so you'd better flip a fucking switch if there are serious issues at 65.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47442538)



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Date: February 27th, 2024 9:29 AM
Author: Hairraiser persian police squad

seems like a silly argument

the idea that these overweight 65+ guys are following a whole foods clean diet but also eating meat is ridiculous. much less that that's what's killing them. based on my dad and his friends, most of them would see a huge improvement just from cutting out coca cola and french fries.

basically you're arguing over the last 2% of improvement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5496027&forum_id=2#47442987)