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HS principal just called to announce that my oldest is class valedictorian

Lol, what a great kid. And it's 100% self-directed -- I'm p...
Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness
  05/01/24
180
cocky wagecucks
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Just chop the dick off and let do?
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Turquoise concupiscible brunch scourge upon the earth
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Nah this is a cis one. The middle two probably got brain da...
Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness
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if you’re even 10% serious you should kill yourself fo...
Turquoise concupiscible brunch scourge upon the earth
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how about we chop off his dick ? and eye for an eye, a di...
Primrose Curious Goal In Life Philosopher-king
  05/01/24
no argument from me
Turquoise concupiscible brunch scourge upon the earth
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Is this one of those schools with 30 valedictorians
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Nah, it's a Catholic school so only one, and 4.0 is as high ...
Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness
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“My kids are totally adrift and searching for meaning ...
Turquoise concupiscible brunch scourge upon the earth
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Congrats man. Another tally in the nature over nurture colum...
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He "announced" it to you? Did he read it over the...
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Nah he called my son into the office acting like it was some...
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that is so fucking gay
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What college are they going to?
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Amzhers
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Apologies if this takes away from your offspring's honours, ...
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Juts saw your poast about -- 180 billion.
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Congrats.
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Is it actually meritocratic? Wouldn’t be surprised if ...
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I mentioned above but this is a Catholic school so they just...
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How am I "plainly stupid"? Do you actually think t...
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Nah man, because I've followed your posting over the last te...
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"once-aspiring lawyer" Another one of your biza...
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I'm not saying that I've seen your transcript. I'm saying t...
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Yeah, I'm a little resentful about that but whatever
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It's just "valetorian", actually.
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he must've bombed the SAT/ACT if he only got a sniff (brown)...
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I forget the score but they said it was 98%ile. 1510 maybe....
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"...at an unknown Catholic school" Goes the oth...
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these days if you have a pulse you score >1560 on the SAT
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I only date SAT scores higher than mine, so try 1590 or 1600...
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I got a 1290. Rate me.
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I rate you as flame because no one on XO is that dumb, not e...
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Not flame. 700 math 590 verbal.
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Choosing not to believe that because deep down I respect all...
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his 1290 was prob from when the sat was actually challenging...
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How old do you think I am?
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did you sleep in and miss a section?
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I'm not a smart guy and did really poorly in HS.
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(florida state JD haver criticizing another person for low s...
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1290 is not low!
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remind me what undergrad you went to sis?
Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness
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I'm sorry your kid isn't that smart. "98th percentile&q...
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So which school?
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Holy fucking shit are you that big of a moron? Since when do...
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Take it up with her, retard. Her post was saying “I fa...
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Goddamn you're stupid as fuck bro no offense
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Got any actual evidence for this? For example, evidence of y...
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CQ, no chance that that plainly stupid bitch could've copped...
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times are very very different from 20 years ago
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congrats, brother
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Congrats to your child
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What did his mom's reaction to the news?
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i was the one who warned you off of amherst if your kid is a...
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EPAH cut his dick off and the kid is half black.
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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:25 PM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

Lol, what a great kid. And it's 100% self-directed -- I'm probably one of the least academically-involved parents in history.

Edit: Next to my ex-wife of course.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626111)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:02 PM
Author: cocky wagecucks

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626621)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:28 PM
Author: bespoke bawdyhouse

Just chop the dick off and let do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626123)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:28 PM
Author: Turquoise concupiscible brunch scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626126)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:30 PM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

Nah this is a cis one. The middle two probably got brain damage from the Lupron.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626132)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:32 PM
Author: Turquoise concupiscible brunch scourge upon the earth

if you’re even 10% serious you should kill yourself for being a failure as a father and human

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626140)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 8:37 PM
Author: Primrose Curious Goal In Life Philosopher-king

how about we chop off his dick ?

and eye for an eye, a dick for a dick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626557)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:21 AM
Author: Turquoise concupiscible brunch scourge upon the earth

no argument from me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627146)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:28 PM
Author: Vibrant canary organic girlfriend rehab

Is this one of those schools with 30 valedictorians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626127)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:29 PM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

Nah, it's a Catholic school so only one, and 4.0 is as high as grades can go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626129)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:29 PM
Author: Turquoise concupiscible brunch scourge upon the earth

“My kids are totally adrift and searching for meaning first in self mutilation and now academic achievement. Am I a great parent or what?”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626131)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:36 PM
Author: Yellow alcoholic hall toaster

Congrats man. Another tally in the nature over nurture column.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626149)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:40 PM
Author: Snowy Ticket Booth Marketing Idea



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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:36 PM
Author: razzmatazz senate



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 6:00 AM
Author: Godawful Odious Parlor



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 10:09 AM
Author: Beta school associate



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:15 PM
Author: mahogany racy theater stage



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:37 PM
Author: titillating slap-happy address famous landscape painting

He "announced" it to you? Did he read it over the school's PA system into the phone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626155)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:27 PM
Author: maroon high-end national security agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626383)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:41 PM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

Nah he called my son into the office acting like it was something serious then had my son call me on speakerphone, and "announced" it to both of us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626413)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 8:10 PM
Author: Internet-worthy national

that is so fucking gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626495)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 8:19 PM
Author: maroon high-end national security agency



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 1:23 PM
Author: Sinister Arrogant Halford Mad Cow Disease



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:39 PM
Author: Elite pontificating piazza

What college are they going to?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626157)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:40 PM
Author: Topaz razzle-dazzle space sweet tailpipe

Amzhers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626160)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:49 PM
Author: Turquoise concupiscible brunch scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626172)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:51 PM
Author: Know-it-all Tanning Salon

Apologies if this takes away from your offspring's honours, but I want to hijack this thread to RAIL against the fact that high school often will have like 20 valedictorians now. It's absurd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626175)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:51 PM
Author: Know-it-all Tanning Salon

Juts saw your poast about -- 180 billion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626177)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 6:00 AM
Author: Godawful Odious Parlor



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Date: May 1st, 2024 5:52 PM
Author: jade rough-skinned area

Congrats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626178)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 6:24 PM
Author: Orchid Casino Newt

If you really cared about the bort, you'd poast their college essays.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626237)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 6:25 PM
Author: Snowy Ticket Booth Marketing Idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626245)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:22 PM
Author: anal narrow-minded kitty cat

Is it actually meritocratic? Wouldn’t be surprised if the valedictorian selection process has affirmative action for trannies of color

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626370)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:28 PM
Author: Autistic startled lay giraffe

make a guess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626387)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:44 PM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

I mentioned above but this is a Catholic school so they just go by GPA.

Supposing you could find a lady who would let you stick it in her, maybe you can have successful kids too idk. Given how plainly stupid you are, the odds against this outcome are astronomical, but you should try anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626425)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:23 PM
Author: anal narrow-minded kitty cat

How am I "plainly stupid"? Do you actually think this is demonstrated by my not knowing random things like "Catholic schools use GPA for valedictorian" or are you just butthurt that I often point out that your kids are mentally ill freaks?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626925)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:44 AM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

Nah man, because I've followed your posting over the last ten years, and everything about it screams "insecure low-IQ once-aspiring lawyer."

If you reflect for two seconds you'll realize this yourself. I'm sure that even in your own life you encounter people who are far stupider than you, and must be like, "wow, that person is stupid." It's like that, hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627058)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 1:37 AM
Author: anal narrow-minded kitty cat

"once-aspiring lawyer"

Another one of your bizarre made-up claims. I've never wanted to be a lawyer, nor suggested in any way that I've ever wanted to be one. Sort of like how you used to constantly post that I had an "atrocious academic record" or some such thing - literally just made up out of thin air; I've never posted anything positive or negative about my academic record.

"I'm sure that even in your own life you encounter people who are far stupider than you, and must be like, "wow, that person is stupid.""

Yes, absolutely - like when I encounter the retards on here who are too stupid to not get outed constantly, or to not marry a literal crackhead. Wonder what life is like for these poor souls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627109)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:54 AM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

I'm not saying that I've seen your transcript. I'm saying that from the way you write and "reason," it's obvious that you weren't a kid who was "good at school."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628043)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:14 PM
Author: anal narrow-minded kitty cat

Sure thing, chief. Maybe one day you will provide one (1) actual example of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628769)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:27 PM
Author: Sadistic Khaki Fanboi



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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:31 PM
Author: mint menage

Ohhh so the HUG rejection was because he’s cisgendered. That makes way more sense. Hawaii is about as maxed out on geodiviersity as you can get and he’s black with parents (or a parent) who can pay full sticker, so it makes sense he’d get Amherst and not HUG when they are now required to admit 60% Asians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626395)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:44 PM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

Yeah, I'm a little resentful about that but whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626427)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 8:19 PM
Author: mint menage

He’ll make a damn fine little bitch associate for his Asian partner daddy in 7-8 years, bro. Damn fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626514)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:37 PM
Author: Sepia set

It's just "valetorian", actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626404)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:39 PM
Author: grizzly round eye locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626406)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 8:05 PM
Author: Topaz razzle-dazzle space sweet tailpipe

Jfc lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626482)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 8:10 PM
Author: Know-it-all Tanning Salon

EHAP, you have to admit that this one was good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626493)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 8:34 PM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_zG-ujFZbM&ab_channel=COMEALONG

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626550)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:07 PM
Author: Snowy Ticket Booth Marketing Idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626635)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:18 PM
Author: Onyx library incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626667)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:28 PM
Author: hairless crawly stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626820)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:40 PM
Author: Soul-stirring dilemma

Thank you for this. I needed this laugh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626850)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:52 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Garrison Mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626987)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:49 AM
Author: contagious haunting place of business gay wizard

I'm not a transphobe and I'm a big EPAH fan. But I will admit I loled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627136)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:22 AM
Author: Turquoise concupiscible brunch scourge upon the earth

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627147)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 6:00 AM
Author: Godawful Odious Parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627221)



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Date: May 3rd, 2024 12:31 AM
Author: Sepia set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47630118)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 6:16 AM
Author: transparent water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627228)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:30 AM
Author: anal narrow-minded kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627994)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:34 PM
Author: Chrome genital piercing turdskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628585)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:15 PM
Author: mahogany racy theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628772)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 4:59 PM
Author: Floppy Insecure Goyim Stag Film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47629043)



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Date: September 8th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: Pumonymous



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#49246725)



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Date: September 8th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: holy shit you people are fags



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#49246728)



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Date: September 8th, 2025 11:33 PM
Author: great sub thread, would read again (✅🍑)

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#49246739)



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Date: September 8th, 2025 11:38 PM
Author: unemployed racist loser with hot asian wife tp

Man I wish I’d come up with this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#49246747)



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Date: September 8th, 2025 11:47 PM
Author: holy shit you people are fags



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#49246771)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 7:46 PM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

Anyone have thoughts on why this little piece of news would make shitcons ^^^ get so YSFFM?

This makes them even madder than when I observe that Drumpf is an orange retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626432)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 8:14 PM
Author: contagious haunting place of business gay wizard

Probably the same reason that shitcons cheer for TSINAH's bogus lawsuits even though he is an objective piece of shit who makes fun of homeless people. Tribalism is a powerful. Plus transphobia.

I'm no shitcon, so I'll say congratulations to both you and your son. That's 180, and I wish future success to both of you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626501)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 8:16 PM
Author: Know-it-all Tanning Salon

To be fair, I get ripped on for everything I poast. Not as many responses though, because I'm not an xo celebrity like you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626505)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 8:09 PM
Author: bearded hyperactive site

he must've bombed the SAT/ACT if he only got a sniff (brown) of the ivy league.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626491)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 8:32 PM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

I forget the score but they said it was 98%ile. 1510 maybe. But yeah he got dinged at HYP. I'm thinking if you go to either Punahou or a public high school with those stats they let you in, but he's at an unknown Catholic school which probably counts against him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626549)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 8:43 PM
Author: Know-it-all Tanning Salon

"...at an unknown Catholic school"

Goes the other way.

School only matter to the extent there are more than two kids they want to accept from the school. Then you will get dinged if you're not the best of the kids at that school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626571)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:06 PM
Author: bearded hyperactive site

yeah you definitely fucked up not sending him to iolani. i knew a relatively normal guy when we were young who transformed into a chad before going off to harvard. definitely something in the water over there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626762)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:47 AM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

I didn't decide to bring them out here until the admission cycle had passed for both Punahou and Iolani. That's my fault, but whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627061)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:08 PM
Author: Snowy Ticket Booth Marketing Idea

these days if you have a pulse you score >1560 on the SAT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626638)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:22 PM
Author: Thirsty swashbuckling puppy

The same prereq to get into your pants, you disgusting slut.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626682)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:24 PM
Author: Snowy Ticket Booth Marketing Idea

I only date SAT scores higher than mine, so try 1590 or 1600 (preferred)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626684)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:25 PM
Author: Thirsty swashbuckling puppy

I got a 1290. Rate me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626689)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:26 PM
Author: Snowy Ticket Booth Marketing Idea

I rate you as flame because no one on XO is that dumb, not even lex after the fall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626692)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:28 PM
Author: Thirsty swashbuckling puppy

Not flame. 700 math 590 verbal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626701)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:30 PM
Author: Snowy Ticket Booth Marketing Idea

Choosing not to believe that because deep down I respect all poasters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626704)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:33 PM
Author: Thirsty swashbuckling puppy

Wow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626714)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:27 PM
Author: duck-like fragrant prole crackhouse

Beatified

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626931)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:31 PM
Author: hairraiser hyperventilating step-uncle's house main people

his 1290 was prob from when the sat was actually challenging and no one studied for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626827)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:44 PM
Author: Thirsty swashbuckling puppy

How old do you think I am?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626864)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:19 AM
Author: hairraiser hyperventilating step-uncle's house main people

old enough that you must have taken the pre-watered down version of the test. complete retards can get a 1290 on the current one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627972)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:30 PM
Author: hairless crawly stead

did you sleep in and miss a section?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626824)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 10:44 PM
Author: Thirsty swashbuckling puppy

I'm not a smart guy and did really poorly in HS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626863)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:25 PM
Author: zippy forum fat ankles

(florida state JD haver criticizing another person for low standardized testing performance)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626928)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 6:13 AM
Author: Thirsty swashbuckling puppy

1290 is not low!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627227)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:47 AM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

remind me what undergrad you went to sis?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627063)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 6:51 AM
Author: Snowy Ticket Booth Marketing Idea

I'm sorry your kid isn't that smart. "98th percentile" on today's bell curve is not great. Also I went to school for hard STEM, not pre-law basket-weaving. MIT and Princeton fizziks programs are a little more competitive than exploratory studies for heroin children at a LAC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627245)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 7:03 AM
Author: Thirsty swashbuckling puppy

So which school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627249)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:55 AM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

Whoa, you went to MIT and Princeton? That's awesome; what do you do for work now girl?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628050)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 1:07 PM
Author: anal narrow-minded kitty cat

Holy fuck are you ever stupid. She obviously meant that for someone like her who wanted to study hard STEM, it’s more excusable to have failed to get into a MIT/Princeton-level school, since hard STEM program admissions there are extremely competitive. She wasn’t implying that she went to MIT/Princeton.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628228)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 1:20 PM
Author: contagious haunting place of business gay wizard

Holy fucking shit are you that big of a moron? Since when do Ivies admit by major? You clearly have never even sniffed a prestigious school. Yes, if you go to some state school, you might have to apply to the business or computer science major because the demand for these majors exceeds the number of seats in the classes. But that's not an issue at prestigious schools. At Stanford, classes literally cannot "fill up." If the number of students in the class exceeds the number of seats in the classroom, then they have to find a bigger classroom. The fact that you think that FizzKidd got dinged because she was applying for STEM shows that you were probably too stupid to even apply to any legitimate schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628289)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 1:26 PM
Author: anal narrow-minded kitty cat

Take it up with her, retard. Her post was saying “I failed to get into a good school because I was applying for STEM,” not “I went to MIT/Princeton” as EPAH stupidly thought. I wasn’t commenting on how plausible the excuse was

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628314)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:02 PM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

Goddamn you're stupid as fuck bro no offense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628458)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:53 PM
Author: anal narrow-minded kitty cat

Got any actual evidence for this? For example, evidence of you being a giant retard includes (among much else) the hilarious failure of basic reading comprehension you exhibited above in your reply to fizzkid. Or do you only have fairytales about my “academic record”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628692)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 6:05 PM
Author: Snowy Ticket Booth Marketing Idea

I'm willing to be proven wrong but afaik basically every R1 school discriminates by declared major

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47629235)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 8:22 PM
Author: contagious haunting place of business gay wizard

To be fair, admissions is kind of a black box, so nobody knows for sure. But given that most Ivies let you change majors any time for any reason, I doubt that they are admitting certain majors at higher rates:

https://www.ivyscholars.com/does-your-major-affect-admission/

The only exception I can think of is Penn, where admission to Wharton is much more difficult than admission to Arts and Sciences. And sorry, but if anything, being female and listing physics as your desired major gave you an enormous boost.

Assuming you are not flame, all I can say is that sucks to apply to college while Asian. Elite colleges assume that Asian applicants will have perfect SAT scores, so they basically count for nothing. You won't be admitted without some exceptional extracurriculars. At least that was the case historically. I'm going to LJL at the racists who attacked affirmative action on this bort for years who will be demanding it be reinstated once all of the Ivies are 80%+ Asian in the post-AA world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47629591)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 1:23 PM
Author: contagious haunting place of business gay wizard

Wut? Since when are admissions for STEM at MIT/Princeton different from admissions to any other major? And even if they were, then you should be doubly embarrassed for getting dinged as a female. The boost from being female in engineering/physics admission is far greater than any type of URM boost to Amherst (especially since AA is illegal now). Sorry about your tiny yellow clit, sis. (That meme doesn't work as well when directed at an Asian female, I suppose.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628301)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:17 AM
Author: anal narrow-minded kitty cat

CQ, no chance that that plainly stupid bitch could've copped *checks notes* “Utah State University, B.S., Environmental Studies”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627958)



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Date: May 3rd, 2024 8:10 AM
Author: jet-lagged indian lodge

times are very very different from 20 years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47630454)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 8:42 PM
Author: Nofapping gaming laptop

congrats, brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626570)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:02 PM
Author: Thirsty swashbuckling puppy

Congrats to your child

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626620)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:28 PM
Author: bonkers factory reset button field

Is this the Hawaiian CPS? I'd like to report suspected child abuse. Parent is posting on a racist chat bort about his kids. Again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626698)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:53 PM
Author: Soul-stirring dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626991)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 9:28 PM
Author: Sadistic Khaki Fanboi

What did his mom's reaction to the news?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626699)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:49 AM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

She's thrilled, and texted, "weren't you the valedictorian?" (I wasn't, but only b/c I skipped too many classes my senior year to go down to the Colorado River to smoke cigs and drink beer with my friends)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627068)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:27 PM
Author: zippy forum fat ankles

i was the one who warned you off of amherst if your kid is an AA token. if he got straight As in private school without tiger parenting in the background, he will likely excel in that environment and actually take advantage of a good liberal arts faculty. congrats brother, your kid is a scholar and you should be proud. LOL at all the seething poasters ITT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626932)



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Date: May 1st, 2024 11:52 PM
Author: Soul-stirring dilemma

EPAH cut his dick off and the kid is half black.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47626986)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:49 AM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

I remember that post. I think I responded that he's actually smart, but probably hadn't mentioned that it was 100% self-driven.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627070)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 12:48 AM
Author: Slate Spectacular Church Building

valevagtorian you bigot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627066)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:55 AM
Author: Appetizing hunting ground plaza

This is pretty cool

Is it SH/SI/Riordan? Or somewhere Marin?

If SI very prestigious

If SH respectable

If Riordan still good but I miss Mercy

If Marin prestigious unless it’s the school with all of the Jocks in which case what did xe letter in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627137)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:57 AM
Author: lime foreskin hell

Cr ranking but he moved during Covid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627140)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:59 AM
Author: Appetizing hunting ground plaza

Big island or one of the less big ones?

I’m embarrassed for not paying proper attention to detail and will Shephardize my threads going forward

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627141)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:26 AM
Author: excitant theatre

Congrats brother!

As the father of very small children having them graduate college seems so very far away, but I'm sure it will be here before I know it. It seems like only yesterday I myself was in college, but then I do some math and I realize that was like 30 years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627149)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 5:18 AM
Author: Thirsty swashbuckling puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47627205)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: Stubborn private investor sandwich

Congratulations.

Is it true that public schooling in Hawaii is very bad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628001)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 11:57 AM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

My sense is that it's not actually that bad if you live in the right area. Somehow it just came to be a tradition out here that if you can afford it you send your kids to private school. In retrospect I should've sent them to public schools since we live in a nice area.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628056)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 1:28 PM
Author: jet-lagged indian lodge

did your kids want to move to hawaii or were they like, 'noo my friends are here i dont want to move to an island'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628321)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:04 PM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

They all wanted to move. We spent a lot of time out here ever since they were babies. Plus they were running out of things to say when their classmates asked why their mom hadn't been around for a few months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628462)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:26 PM
Author: jet-lagged indian lodge

Cool. I would love to live in a place like that. Looks like paradise. Congrats to your kid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628806)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 2:38 PM
Author: adulterous cobalt old irish cottage

They didn't get into HYP even checking "black" on the application?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628603)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 3:17 PM
Author: Obsidian Stirring Twinkling Uncleanness

Yeah. Racism is deeply rooted in those institutions I guess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47628783)



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Date: May 3rd, 2024 4:05 AM
Author: contagious haunting place of business gay wizard

I find it amazing that poasters on a law bort seem to be oblivious to the fact that affirmative action is now illegal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47630278)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 8:31 PM
Author: Glittery Legal Warrant Haunted Graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47629606)



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Date: May 2nd, 2024 10:11 PM
Author: Thirsty swashbuckling puppy

Childless board shrew feels threatened by another poster's smart kid. Very weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5523738&forum_id=2#47629825)



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Date: May 3rd, 2024 8:09 AM
Author: jet-lagged indian lodge



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